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There are some Kickstarter projects which fail not because their idea suck but because the project starter simply fails to put up a good presentation or advertise the project elsewhere. For example, that CHICK ON THE GO project Snowglobe of Doom posted... I wouldn't know if the idea by itself is bad, but I would reckon her target audience aren't the type that browse around the Kickstarter site or spend much time on the internet for that matter. Which is why is think its so funny the "My American Game" guy threw a hissy fit, as if the blame is on the Kickstarter staff his project was gonna fail because they didn't put him as a Staff Pick. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects...camouflaj-logan would have succeed if the makers hadn't waited until the project was halfway its term before advertising it through other game-related sites.
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| # ¿ May 8, 2012 22:32 |
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| # ¿ May 21, 2013 16:27 |
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Juriko posted:I first saw Republique on gaming sites in the beginning of April, so they didn't wait for it to be half way through. It was a hyperbole on my part, but it stayed stagnant for a week and only picked up when they started advertising it more aggressively. My point is you can't just make a Kickstarter project and cross your fingers if you really want it to succeed, specially if you are trying to raise a high amount of money. Not everyone can get lucky like the guy from Unemployment Quest.
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| # ¿ May 9, 2012 01:49 |
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frumpsnake posted:Your definition of "hyperbole" seems to be closer to "making poo poo up", considering it was covered extensively by IGN, Polygon, GameInformer, Joystiq, 1UP, and Gamasutra on the very first day of the Kickstarter (Apr 10), and previewed by Kotaku the week prior. Sorry, I see I wasn't clear enough. It did get covered at the start of the Kickstarter project, but there wasn't enough information to draw people in. When it was initially announced there was only an iOS version so not many people cared. Only after 2 weeks the PC version was announced and more people started showing interest. Their initial coverage was nothing compared to the attention they got now. Look at their update history and their pledgers activity. They stayed silent for too long during the start and introduced the Operation Keep Hope Alive when there were only 8 days left. They could reach their goal if they could stretch the project a bit more to make up for lost time. I have seen more gaming projects which looked interesting but failed due to lack of any updates, but that might be because they were vaporware to begin with. On topic, this guy cancelled his project after people pointed out how misguided he was. Broken Bio Qlock fucked around with this message at May 10, 2012 around 01:20 |
| # ¿ May 9, 2012 23:32 |
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Its cancelled so that won't happen. Now, call me stupid if I didn't get the point of this project, but is this guy trying to build a PC emulator for the PC?
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| # ¿ May 10, 2012 01:48 |
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They will definately make it. They are less than 1k away as I write this. Seeing the pledges go up this fast during the last hours was surreal. Edit: They made it. Holy crap, its was going for a thousand dollars a second or something. I'm still amazed about how popular the Remee got. 400k when they only wanted 35k. And people don't even know if it works. Broken Bio Qlock fucked around with this message at May 11, 2012 around 15:00 |
| # ¿ May 11, 2012 14:56 |
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Nagato posted:Christ, it's true. Every iPhone Kickstarter gets funded. With this project getting 10 million, I foresee a goldrush coming. So I went to check the Comics category. Comic projects don't seem to get as popular as games, some good stuff in there that doesn't look like they will reach their goal. And then at the bottom of the barrel there is crap like this: No idea what is going on in this video Most likely a joke and not a real thing Sometimes you wish they let you pay to make sure a project never sees the light of day It's a hairy butt faced man! Its not a comic. Its a graphic novel. For 3000 he will come over to your house and french-kiss you
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| # ¿ May 13, 2012 20:49 |
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Cowman posted:Edit: I also commented on the page saying I found some coins in my pocket and now expect a comic. That was a stroke of genius. You had me in tears with that. At least this guys is self-aware. Much better than the capoeira guy who thanked people making fun of him on youtube because he is too thick to sense sarcasm. Oh, and the game he was making was Pong. 1.5k for Pong.
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| # ¿ May 14, 2012 21:02 |
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miscellaneous14 posted:Why do people think that others will give a gently caress about their interest in some random cartoon? I enjoy shows like Adventure Time and Regular Show, should I create a documentary Kickstarter about how I went to some kind of convention specifically for these cartoon series, and how it changed my life? Did you watch the video? They also want to fight intolerance against bronies. So yeah, all the backlash is what made this happen....  quote:and their explanation as to why a company that has been successfully trading for 18 years needs donations for a project. Maybe I'm thinking too simplistic, but for established companies whose projects are bounded to succeed, using Kickstarter might be a good way to create a game with less risk involved because the product will be paid in advance and you already have knowledge about the size of your potential userbase. It also makes them more sympathetic in the public eye, I guess?
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| # ¿ May 15, 2012 17:45 |
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pathetic little tramp posted:Or hell, free money from desperate nerds instead of having to repay private investors. Really, Kickstarter is a loving dream for companies that want to 'crowdsource' everything. Kickstarter is only crowdsourcing in the financial aspect, though. Pure crouwdsourcing would imply fan-made content.
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| # ¿ May 15, 2012 20:39 |
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:They've almost raised triple their pledge goal in the first 24 hours of the project going live so I don't think market uncertainty was ever an issue for them. Well, an 8k target is pretty low for a non-indie game. The Tentacle surprise sex game guys either drew too much attention to themselves or it was due to the Kotaku article, because they never mention surprise sex explicitly, which I guess is the reason it got greenlighted in the first place.
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| # ¿ May 16, 2012 17:21 |
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In other news: lovely game creator gets pissed off nobody cares about his lovely game I would do the "throw pennies at the lovely project and laugh" spiel, but there is not enough time left. lovely MMO which is not even going to be free to play Native-American culture based game with sadly a very lovely execution.
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| # ¿ May 16, 2012 17:40 |
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Solus posted:
And he is the typical clueless nerd that didn't realize cowman was making fun of him. Cowman posted:He's asking for $3,823. What an odd amount, I want to pledge $3,822 just to be a dick but I'm afraid someone will make me pay it. Man, I love reading your comments. Its funny how he got 13.37 dollars from you goons after I linked him. Shows how much effort he put in promoting his game. Like Black Griffon said, its hilarious how they think its Kickstarter's fault nobody cares about their lovely project. The Panzer Pets people were even blaming Republique from stealing their thunder.
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| # ¿ May 17, 2012 07:13 |
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More awful projects, this time from the 'Awful projects which got funded' category: Games: A 50 dollar game project? These guys are just using Kickstarter to get beer money. Throw in some concept art and people will somehow ignore the horrible demo video we need a programmer willing to work for less than minimum wage. Movies: Another goddamn vampire movie I hope this ends up really hilarious because those drawings are downright awful. Having your friends fund your project is also a tactic. Comics: Furry comics otaku comics hipster comics Technology: Human technology has come full-circle. Don't trust the government! See how truly polluted your town is! Check their FAQ and they will even admit this thing can't do its job well. Get auto-tweets about what is going on around you. For the twitter freaks who are too self-absorbed to even notice the doorbell.
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| # ¿ May 17, 2012 09:08 |
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vxskud posted:So it's a case of entitlement, they want to be Peter Molyneux or Steven Spielberg with out actually climbing the ladder to get to that level simply because they are super duper dudes with :kickinrad: ideas. Do you even play games? Do you honestly not know how many games have to be retooled and twisted to the whims of publishers so they can make more money? Publishers are the worst aspect of the videogame industry. Has nothing to do with entitlement. And you obviously didn't watch the movie in Wastelands 2 project. Publishers would not take the IP because they never heard of it and the ones who did wanted to turn it into something that was not Wastelands. The guys from Republique would go to a publisher if the Kickstarter project failed. Good thing they didn't because now they can make the game THEY want and the fans want. quote:I'm really happy for the dude, and it's awesome that something he threw together in his spare time has somehow managed to gain 8x what he asked for. He posted a few things on Facebook a while back about getting picked up by Game Salute, which is a new publisher or something like that, I'm not really sure. But he's managed to basically turn his life around with a game he threw together with a free program he downloaded online. I think that's pretty cool, if nothing else. If you read the comments on his project you see he got lots of support from people who have been unemployed for a long period. Its really telling when a game about unemployment strikes such a chord with people that they fund it on concept alone.
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| # ¿ May 18, 2012 05:16 |
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emo first-person game "it definitely hasn't picked up the momentum I thought it may." The lack of self-awareness of most project starters is a delightful trainwreck to watch. The guy only has some crappy screenshots and some vague descriptions about the game and still expects people to donate, like some sort of "insert to continue" scheme.
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| # ¿ May 18, 2012 21:55 |
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They didn't cancel it because it was pornographic. The most popular comic project is adult-themed without a drop of subtlety. The video section also has plenty of borderline porn. I don't know what details they had when it got approved, but I'm almost sure it was because of the backlash caused by articles like Kotaku. The Kickstarter staff aren't idiots living inside their own bubble. They know what goes around the internet.
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| # ¿ May 20, 2012 11:42 |
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Goddammit, can't you people make a new thread? You are going to get this one locked. Real content: Ragnarok Online clone. Or is it a mod? I don't know... I wonder how many failed projects will take for people to realize MMOs never get funded?
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| # ¿ May 20, 2012 21:36 |
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Fooley posted:Reward tiers suck and it seems the shittier the project the more you have to donate before you get something. People outside the US are asked to add from 10 to 20 dollars extra shipping, which makes some rewards ridiculously expensive. That is why I always kstick with the lower digital-only tiers.
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| # ¿ May 21, 2012 05:07 |
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That FAKEGRIMLOCK project is awesome and it really shows how presentation is everything.quote:Oh and some of the pledge rewards are goddamn hilarious: I like how for 5 bucks he will insert your name into the game code. What an honor! 10 dollars for a generic shooter? I can buy a pack of 3 shooters for half that price on Steam, and they are made by real Japanese people.  I wonder if the horrible voice-over is intentional.
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| # ¿ May 21, 2012 16:30 |
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My god, that gameplay video of Anonymous Agony was atrocious... wait, did I say gameplay? It was just one long-rear end cut-scene sprinkled with a few bits where you could move around. Dear Esther is more interactive than this. Can't wait until all the recently funded rpg-maker games get released. People will wise up and never fund those again or nothing will change because people are in general pretty stupid. quote:Most Kickstarters run for 30 days but this guy was so sure that people would be immediately falling over themselves to hand him their he dialled it back down to just 14 days. Seems more like he is just trying to scrounge some rent money.
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| # ¿ May 24, 2012 17:31 |
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Vice President posted:I wonder if this will be the only round of successful games (wasteland, carmageddon, etc) where the original developers buying back the rights to their old games from the publishers. Once publishers figure out the original devs can get a ton of cash on KS, why not just do it themselves? The reason these projects are popular is due to the fact its the original developers and not so much the IP itself. This project is not an old IP for example, but got funded due to the people behind it. Gamers know there is a huge difference between a publisher bringing an IP back and the original developer doing so. The former will be purely for profit and the later for the love of the original work. Man, I love how Anonymous Agony is becoming a meme for being so lovely.
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| # ¿ May 27, 2012 21:26 |
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Pfirti86 posted:Eh, he's just a kid, I wouldn't be too harsh on him personally. You wouldn't? Nothing like using Facebook to uncover dirt about someone. And I don't even have a FB account.
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| # ¿ May 27, 2012 22:17 |
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So apparently someone got his feelings hurt.quote:I can't for the life of me think of why anyone would go through the trouble of telling someone " You're going to fail". Me personally, if I saw that someone had unrealistic goals and I suspected them doomed for failure, I would not publically try to humiliate them or tell them that their dreams are unrealistic, if anything I would cheer them on and even help them. Many great things have been achieved by those who were "laughed at" or "thought crazy". Are we crazy for doing such a big project, probably. Did we ever think we'd be this far? Nope we didn't. However, we're to a point now, where if we were to get funded, I have the contacts and studios lined up to do the work we need done. We have all the model lists, maps, building lists, the needs we need all lined up and sorted, so if we do reach our goal, work begins immediately. Not only will work begin immediately, it will be local people in the U.S.A. who gets the buisness to help stimulate the local economy and game industry. I actually know several professional moderls, producers, game creators in my local area who are ready to go, providing we can provide them an income. (Hey we all gotta eat). While I do appreciate your input, I just don't think that you realize how planned out this is and how many contacts we have. It's not just some fly by night, hey let's make a game. It started out as a hobby, which evolved into a much more involved project. We've had teams of players already playing on our server, testing the game out, we've been badgered with questions, ( Hey when are we going to get to play again, I was rather addicted to that) Which I find one of the best compliments ever. I for one would never go out of my way to criticize someone for their dream, no matter how high or low the reach, guess that's just me. When you read all his comments you would think he would have something to show for that is better than this
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| # ¿ May 28, 2012 15:18 |
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RadicalWall posted:Oh god, I did this. I drove him off the cliff by telling him his goals were unrealistic. You feel bad? Every time I post a link you meanie goons go and post sarcastic comments. But hey, at least their pledge amount goes up.  Cowman's comments are the best though. quote:I'm also not sure who's been telling him how amazing the game looks. His testers must be either family, suffering from cataracts, or time travellers from the year 1998. Well, he did say he is working on this for a long time, so maybe he meant his early testers back when he was aiming to dethrone Everquest.
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| # ¿ May 29, 2012 19:25 |
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Another game maker with a doomed project that throws a fit when people point out how stupid the name of his game is.quote:Except they're right, the quotes are just the random poo poo that every kid says at that age. Christ, none of those quotes are funny or interesting, even for a kid that age. I can't stand parents who think their ordinary kid is special and can't shut up about it. Broken Bio Qlock fucked around with this message at Jun 2, 2012 around 20:31 |
| # ¿ Jun 2, 2012 20:26 |
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Hadron Ellison posted:It was mentioned earlier in the post, but Unemployment Quest (which is awesome) was just released for digital sale, and apparently Sony contacted the maker about releasing it on the play station network. I'm playing Unemployment Quest, its not that terrible but not amazing either. It's a simple JRPG with some funny references and with items, dialogue and enemies that have names that follow the unemployment theme. The game is really unbalanced and it uses stock assets. Its only worth playing to see how the keeps incorporating the theme further. Its what you would expect from a 5 dollar game made in such short time.
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| # ¿ Jun 16, 2012 21:54 |
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illiniguy01 posted:How much money did it get from KS? He got 10K while he only asked for 1K. However, he didn't really add anything extra to the game despite that.
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| # ¿ Jun 17, 2012 08:45 |
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Ok, so Unemployment Quest is 4 hours long at best... considering what you can get at Steam for 5 bucks this is quite a rip-off. No wonder the guy can't get a job if this is the best he can do when given 10 thousand dollars to create a RPG Maker game.
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| # ¿ Jun 17, 2012 10:25 |
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That is what I said in my previous post. But its a bit too short to be worth even 5 dollars. You would think if you have a game that gathered so much interest you would bother adding an extra dungeon or two. It would not require any extra skill, just bit more effort.
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| # ¿ Jun 17, 2012 16:22 |
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The Modern Leper posted:It does raise an interesting question as to expectations, though -- if he had made a little flash game that became a viral hit, everyone who played would be satisfied with the game as designed. Do the expectations change if you have the sales revenue before production versus accruing it after production? I think people would have seen it as a demo and ask for a full version to be made due to popularity. I'm not joking when I say the game is short. It has 3 dungeons and 3 towns to visit. The whole world map is made out of two islands.
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| # ¿ Jun 17, 2012 21:03 |
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:Every project on Kickstarter has been reviewed by a flesh and blood human, all of whom decided "Yup, I think this is reasonable. I want this buissness associated with this." They only care if it fits the TOS. Kickstarter make their money from successful projects and from what we learned in this thread is that any stupid thing can get funded if the market it right.
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| # ¿ Jul 1, 2012 21:12 |
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Remnant of Chaos's project starter cries due to not getting any funds.
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| # ¿ Jul 7, 2012 15:13 |
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That Gaymercon project has the best Kickstarter video I have seen so far. Props.
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| # ¿ Aug 3, 2012 05:51 |
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Slanderer posted:Really? Ooops, sorry. My bad. Here, let me try again. Those... those... nerds! And their memes! Worst kickstarter video I have ever seen!  Better?
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| # ¿ Aug 3, 2012 18:45 |
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| # ¿ May 21, 2013 16:27 |
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Greenlight is riddled with RPG Maker games. One is even based on Slenderman. There is also like six Slenderman games. There is enough bad games in there to warrant an Awful Greenlighters thread.
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| # ¿ Aug 31, 2012 20:35 |
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