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JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

I say, old bean.


Chief Savage Man posted:

I think can do invites to Goon Tang Clan and I'll definitely be around unless something comes up. I'm usually hanging out on #gw2 (The_Chief) so hit me up during the test I guess and I'll see if JT gave me the ability to add people (I think he did).
Yeah I did. I think I'm gonna be at school for this one, unless class gets cancelled which is a real possibility considering the tropical storm that's going through the state. Glad people are kinda interesting in goon tang, though.

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Dreggon
Aug 24, 2011
I want my baby back baby back baby back

Is the stress test in... 12 hours?

Daynab
Aug 5, 2008


Dreggon posted:

Is the stress test in... 12 hours?

Yeah

Vanderdeath
Oct 1, 2005

God was a dream of good government.



I guess a taste of GW2 is better than no taste at all.

WanderingMinstrel I
Mar 31, 2010
I paid $10 to read a Pokemon Let's Play

You can either not play, or you can have four hours of superhappyfunaweseometime. Whichever you choose is probably fine.

Fubear
Jan 1, 2005
Smarter Than The Average Bear

I think that timing the stress tests for both peak Euro time and also Anet office hours is the smartes thing they could do.

If you are working during the stress tests, take the money earned and put it aside for your Gem Budget when the game launches so you don't feel as bad about it.

AXE COP
Apr 16, 2010

i always feel like

somebody's watching me


Reminder that http://gw2status.com/ exists if you need to keep up to date on the stress test launch time or duration.

Runefaust
Dec 27, 2009

Sooooo... about that...


Edit: Wrong thread

Inzombiac
Mar 19, 2007
I need sleep more than braaaaaaains...

http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/power-creep

Pretty good video that never mentions GW2 but inadvertently tells us why it is so well designed.

fenix down
Jan 12, 2005



Inzombiac posted:

http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/power-creep

Pretty good video that never mentions GW2 but inadvertently tells us why it is so well designed.
No-click zone.

hampig
Feb 11, 2004
...curioser and curioser...

Inzombiac posted:

Pretty good video that never mentions GW2 but inadvertently tells us why it is so well designed.

I actually thought it was pretty poor, that's not at all how I've seen power creep normally used. Guild Wars 1 is a good example of power creep - where abilities were supposed to be equally viable, but because you got more options your overall power unintentionally increased, both in relation to other players and content.

This is completely different to adding 10 levels in an expansion, which is a deliberately planned gear reset and power boost.

Power creep in WoW would be things like unforeseen stat scaling over successive raid tiers (like very high armor penetration in Wrath) giving an unintentional boost to the overall power of a class.

It's far from clear that GW2 has the silver bullet for keeping old areas populated - they have the exact same problem of thinning the population whenever new content is added, and players will still gravitate towards new content just because it's new. GW1 had 3 1/2 continents (ie. a comfortable majority of the game) of max level content all theoretically of the appropriate level for end-game, but it was always the most recent continent that was busiest.

Double Monocle
Sep 4, 2008

Makes anything fancy


Inzombiac posted:

http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/power-creep

Pretty good video that never mentions GW2 but inadvertently tells us why it is so well designed.

I dont think this guy knows what power creep means.

I was going to type a little about what power creep means, but I watched the video until the guy mentioned LoL. Then said LoL had good design with no power creep.

Thank you for that laugh.

Xavier434
Dec 4, 2002



hampig posted:

It's far from clear that GW2 has the silver bullet for keeping old areas populated - they have the exact same problem of thinning the population whenever new content is added, and players will still gravitate towards new content just because it's new. GW1 had 3 1/2 continents (ie. a comfortable majority of the game) of max level content all theoretically of the appropriate level for end-game, but it was always the most recent continent that was busiest.

It's worth noting that high level and newest content being the busiest is not a problem so long as there is enough participation in other areas. The new feeling will always exist but it will also always fade. I think that once it does people will disperse within reason throughout the region because of the level/reward scaling and even more so because people get bored repeating the same stuff over and over regardless of whether or not that "stuff" is the best that the game has to offer. Top that off with ANet committing to release new events everywhere instead of only the highest level and/or new zones and there you go.

There is a lot of value placed on variety and options. I think GW2 is going to successfully capitalize on that.

AXE COP
Apr 16, 2010

i always feel like

somebody's watching me


All of this depends on how baller the Orr zone is. If it's the epic struggle for territory that I imagine it to be in my head I'm basically never leaving.

Xavier434
Dec 4, 2002



^^^

That sort of thing will be why certain zones will be the busiest, but if past experience tells us anything it is that even the best content feels boring after enough repetition.

Personally, I will probably also be amongst the crowd that spends a lot of time in the busier zones, but I will also mix it up regularly because for me that is what is going to keep things feeling the freshest and most fun. Not to mention I am absolutely sick and tired of high level repetition whether it be in the form of raids, PvP, or whatever. I want variety and I want it to feel meaningful and fun more than anything.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007

CLAM DOWN EVERYONE!!!!

I'm going to 100% every goddamn zone in this game on every character.

OneEightHundred
Feb 28, 2008

Soon, we will be unstoppable!


Double Monocle posted:

I was going to type a little about what power creep means, but I watched the video until the guy mentioned LoL. Then said LoL had good design with no power creep.

Thank you for that laugh.
I think it's odd bringing it up as an example of why a game is good when it hasn't had an expansion yet and is in the franchise that gave us Nightfall.

Andry
Jan 10, 2005

Me, reading your post.
(xxxxxxxx)


Having people or not having people is only relevant if it is critically important for you to do the dynamic events with many other people. Even high level zones can be mostly soloed. Every once in awhile you come across a "hey dude groups only here" event, especially in the siege type events, but even some of those can be defeated by a clever player.

The point is the entire system is designed around never being blocked from enjoying the content which is what people bitch in other games when they are an expansion behind on a ghost server.

Arnold of Soissons
Mar 4, 2011



Do the stress tests usually open early, like the BWEs, or are they on time?

Tyberius
Oct 21, 2006

That won't be necessary.


Arnold of Soissons posted:

Do the stress tests usually open early, like the BWEs, or are they on time?

Last stress test was on time.

Fartbong Bonersatan
Dec 14, 2002
syndt


Really? power creep? Why not continue calling it mudflation, since that term has been used for 20 years?

Xavier434
Dec 4, 2002



Andry posted:

Having people or not having people is only relevant if it is critically important for you to do the dynamic events with many other people. Even high level zones can be mostly soloed. Every once in awhile you come across a "hey dude groups only here" event, especially in the siege type events, but even some of those can be defeated by a clever player.

The point is the entire system is designed around never being blocked from enjoying the content which is what people bitch in other games when they are an expansion behind on a ghost server.

Yeah, but having more people running around makes the world feel more alive. There comes a point where over crowding sours the experience too, but dead zones are also bad even when all of the content can be completed.

That plus, as you mentioned, the meta and boss events usually require multiple people and those events are arguably the most fun in the game.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007

CLAM DOWN EVERYONE!!!!

toeman posted:

Really? power creep? Why not continue calling it mudflation, since that term has been used for 20 years?

The only thing worse than corporate buzzwords are MMO buzzwords.

Arnold of Soissons
Mar 4, 2011



I'm guessing that the log in servers being down is part of the test.

e: I am dumb at time zones.

Illuyankas
Oct 22, 2010

oh god what


I'm still getting 'Either there is no event or you're not applicable for this one' messages, did I miss an update that didn't go through the usual client or something? Ha ha, so am I!

Delacroix
Dec 7, 2010


The blogs says 10AM PDT -7 GMT when really they mean -8 GMT because it's 10:14 -7GMT right now, so the event starts in 46 minutes. The guild wars 2 status site was right after all.

Arnold of Soissons
Mar 4, 2011



Delacroix posted:

The blogs says 10AM PDT -7 GMT when really they mean -8 GMT because it's 10:14 -7GMT right now, so the event starts in 46 minutes. The guild wars 2 status site was right after all.

Yay, I'm not so bad at time zones!

I actually got "the log in server is down" after a "conecting..." screen a few times, so I thought they were stress testing the log in servers.

Baboon Fiesta
Feb 28, 2011

You can't prove it
won't happen.


It's now 17:20 and I'm still getting 'either there is no event or you're not applicable for this one' messages. I didn't have any trouble in previous BWE's

e:I too am stupid. daylight savings

Baboon Fiesta fucked around with this message at Jun 27, 2012 around 16:51

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007

CLAM DOWN EVERYONE!!!!

Delacroix posted:

The blogs says 10AM PDT -7 GMT when really they mean -8 GMT because it's 10:14 -7GMT right now, so the event starts in 46 minutes. The guild wars 2 status site was right after all.

It starts in 37 minutes, they meant Pacific time, it's not super hard.

Delacroix
Dec 7, 2010


CLAM DOWN posted:

It starts in 37 minutes, they meant Pacific time, it's not super hard.

quote:

All players who have pre-purchased Guild Wars 2 are invited to participate in our upcoming stress test. This four-hour test event will run on Wednesday, June 27th, from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. PDT (GMT-7).

Saying PDT and GMT-7 is saying two different timezones in the same sentence. As an australian I am culturally ignorant of such nuances so I can only assume they mean one or the other because GMT-7 and PDT are completely different according to my great big clock.

Wrecked Angle
May 12, 2012

10mg - Tumour
5mg - Humour


The reason people are getting confused is that we're currently in BST not GMT in England. So the stress test actually starts at 6pm, NOT 5pm as the -7 would suggest.

TheFace
Oct 4, 2004

Mom, it's just chicken breast and hard work, I swear!


Every official time they've posted has always been based on Pacific time. If they screw up the time (in relation to GMT) it's pretty safe to assume the correct one is the Pacific time one. Especially because they are IN that time zone.

Midrena
May 2, 2009


The link has come up several times -- why don't you guys just use http://gw2status.com/ to check times/events/patches?

Fartbong Bonersatan
Dec 14, 2002
syndt


Delacroix posted:

Saying PDT and GMT-7 is saying two different timezones in the same sentence. As an australian I am culturally ignorant of such nuances so I can only assume they mean one or the other because GMT-7 and PDT are completely different according to my great big clock.

PDT is GMT-7. BST is GMT+1. There's still an 8 hour difference between the Pacific coast of the US and Great Britain, the timezones are just shifted an hour forward for daylight savings time

Delacroix
Dec 7, 2010


Shut up and play, people.

E:and apparently I can't teleport across the map? I hope those skillpoint challenge NPCs don't die before I 100% them...

Delacroix fucked around with this message at Jun 27, 2012 around 17:06

Arnold of Soissons
Mar 4, 2011



Stress test is open.

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

I say, old bean.


Ugh I'm in class and can't play.

I might be able to dip on just long enough to invite people to goon tang clan if I absolutely have to, but that's it.

Androc
Dec 26, 2008



Beta keys from last weekend won't work on this, right? Re-downloading at the moment since I forgot that I did a system restore and wiped out my installation.

User0015
Nov 24, 2007

Please don't talk about your sexuality unless it serves the ~narrative~!

Login works, but it looks like I can't load into the world.

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plehsistential
Jan 29, 2012


Looks like they're getting the stress test they wanted. Character creation and stuff works but can't actually load into the server from there.

e: repeatedly trying got me in

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