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adaz
Mar 7, 2009



Log Update 05/11/2012
Daily Cal Intake:
4 x Optifast = 540
6 oz Chicken = 276 cals
1/2 Cup Onion = 34
1/2 Cup Celery = 9
1/2 Cup Carrots = 30
1 tbsp Garlic = 10
1 tbsp Soy Sauce = 20
1 honeycrisp apple = 70
Total = 989

Exercise:
Rest day.

Boring day, but nothing out of the routine which is the important thing. It's consistency over the (very) long run that will make this work.

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deathbagel
Jun 10, 2008


adaz posted:

Turned out today wasn't a rest day. Evening activities got cancelled, so tomorrow it is!

Log Update 05/10/2012
Daily Cal intake: about 1000, added a cup of veggies otherwise same as yesterday
Exercise: 4.4 mile walk


Dogs were being incredibly unruly - it's bunny season - so my time was poo poo on the walk



But you probably got a bit of upper body workout during your walk at least!

mascaria
Sep 24, 2004


Honeycrisp apples are the best.

Regnevelc
Jan 12, 2003

I'M A GROWN ASS MAN!

Just saw this. Good work thus far man.

Fluffdaddy
Jan 3, 2009


TFF Offseason 2012: Posters losing more than Championship Games.

adaz
Mar 7, 2009



TFF Crew

mascaria posted:

Honeycrisp apples are the best.

Honeycrisp apples are so decadent it feels like I'm cheating eating them.

deathbagel posted:

But you probably got a bit of upper body workout during your walk at least!

We've got the big puppy a gentle leader and he's mainly good except for bunnies. The little puppy hates gentle leaders and we're working on a harness for her, wife is heading to petco tomorrow to have her fitted. But yeah in the meantime my arms are getting some non-traditional exercise in.

Daily Log 05/13/2012

Cal Intake:
4 x Optifast = 640
6 oz Chicken = 276 cals
1/2 Cup Onion = 34
1/2 Cup Celery = 9
1/2 Cup Carrots = 30
1 1/2 tbsp Stir Fry Sauce = 30
1 honeycrisp apple = 70
Total: 1089 cals

Walk:

adaz fucked around with this message at May 13, 2012 around 05:53

Sharks Below
May 23, 2011

ty hc <3


If you're worried about pulling I promise you a harness will only make things worse :| You're better off doing some retraining with a check chain. I know these things have a terrible reputation but when used correctly they are actually the best and are not in any way cruel. I've used them when training both my last 2 dogs and they walk so happily and perfectly on the lead even on a flat collar Just my $0.02.

adaz
Mar 7, 2009



Sharks Below posted:

If you're worried about pulling I promise you a harness will only make things worse :| You're better off doing some retraining with a check chain. I know these things have a terrible reputation but when used correctly they are actually the best and are not in any way cruel. I've used them when training both my last 2 dogs and they walk so happily and perfectly on the lead even on a flat collar Just my $0.02.

I think we're going to try the special harness thing they have because it's apparently designed to cause them to veer off to one side if they start pulling and they hate that. The vet + lady at petco both said they've never had it not work ... of course the dog we're having problems with is a Jack Russel Terrier/Mini Australian Shepard mutt and when we told them THAT fact they retracted a bit on it never working

Also why I'm afraid of the check chain, she's so stubborn I can imagine her just not giving a poo poo and strangling herself.

Sharks Below
May 23, 2011

ty hc <3


adaz posted:

I think we're going to try the special harness thing they have because it's apparently designed to cause them to veer off to one side if they start pulling and they hate that. The vet + lady at petco both said they've never had it not work ... of course the dog we're having problems with is a Jack Russel Terrier/Mini Australian Shepard mutt and when we told them THAT fact they retracted a bit on it never working

Also why I'm afraid of the check chain, she's so stubborn I can imagine her just not giving a poo poo and strangling herself.

Oh right those kind of harnesses sure I thought you meant those chest strap ones She won't strangle herself trust me but you need to do whatever you think is right for you and your doggies

adaz
Mar 7, 2009



Also should mention I'm looking into buying a bike. My brother is huge into bikes and is trying to recommend me some incredibly expensive like $700 starter bike. I want more like... $100. Anyway I guess I need something like 60 centimeters, he claims the reason my knees always hurt when riding is my old bike was way too short. Going to head to a local used bike place and see what they got.

I also successfully managed to avoid my wife's cake batter oreo cupcakes she made today. The knowledge that I've gone 15 weeks without any of that poo poo, ultimately it's contrary to my goals AND serves no purpose was helpful. It seems that the longer I go on this the easier it's getting to ignore stuff like that, still having a bit of an issue with portion control and figuring out the normal serving sizes of things. I've ate way too much for so long it's almost subconscious. Getting rid of those behaviors is taking constant effort which would be discouraging if I didn't know eventually those behaviors will go away.

Sharks Below posted:

Oh right those kind of harnesses sure I thought you meant those chest strap ones She won't strangle herself trust me but you need to do whatever you think is right for you and your doggies

Yeah we'll give it a shot, also will try it on the cocker spaniel/boxer since his gentle leader is rubbing the top of his nose - it's the discolored spot on the top of his nose.

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Sharks Below
May 23, 2011

ty hc <3


Don't worry about that except for the aesthetic Just stick with whatever works.

You're doing SO great, it's so awesome when you get to that point of realising it's becoming easier and easier to make the right choices. A+ work dude!

Norse Code
Mar 9, 2007

Sir! A message from Bentham!


Good dog.

Have you ever tried a Jazz apple? They're from new Zealand and the ones I've had have tasted like jolly ranchers they're so good!

dantheman650
Jun 2, 2009



Is your wife supportive of your goals? I don't want to rush to any assumptions based on your last post, but I hope she's not making these cupcakes and offering them to you knowing what you're trying to accomplish. Either way, congrats on avoiding temptation - it really does get easier the longer you do it and eventually you wonder why you craved things like that anyway. Portion control takes longer to learn and I'm still struggling with it but keep on religiously weighing and tracking everything you eat and you'll stay on track.

Also, honey crisp for life.

adaz
Mar 7, 2009



dantheman650 posted:

Is your wife supportive of your goals? I don't want to rush to any assumptions based on your last post, but I hope she's not making these cupcakes and offering them to you knowing what you're trying to accomplish. Either way, congrats on avoiding temptation - it really does get easier the longer you do it and eventually you wonder why you craved things like that anyway. Portion control takes longer to learn and I'm still struggling with it but keep on religiously weighing and tracking everything you eat and you'll stay on track.

Also, honey crisp for life.

My wife is super supportive I didn't mean to give that impression! She was making them for a terminally ill friend of mine who is in the hospital and loves Oreos. But there was that same old dumb urge to go eat them anyway. Yeah the thing with portion control so far that I've found is that when I "eyeball" it I end up underestimating how much I'm actually putting in by about 2x so measuring every time is what I have to do.

Norse Code posted:

Good dog.

Have you ever tried a Jazz apple? They're from new Zealand and the ones I've had have tasted like jolly ranchers they're so good!

I loving love Jazz, unfortunately I can only find them around here in the fall and it makes me so sad.

Funkutron5000
Jan 20, 2010


adaz posted:

My wife is super supportive I didn't mean to give that impression! She was making them for a terminally ill friend of mine who is in the hospital and loves Oreos. But there was that same old dumb urge to go eat them anyway. Yeah the thing with portion control so far that I've found is that when I "eyeball" it I end up underestimating how much I'm actually putting in by about 2x so measuring every time is what I have to do.


I loving love Jazz, unfortunately I can only find them around here in the fall and it makes me so sad.

Good on you for being able to resist. Keep fighting the good fight!

adaz
Mar 7, 2009



Daily Log 05/13/2012

Daily Cal intake: Right around 1090 calories.

It was mother's day so I cooked for mom, made her baked + mashed potatoes, steamed green beans, my standard stir-fry for my brother & me, and a grilled turkey from allrecipes (http://allrecipes.com/recipe/grille...key/detail.aspx) although I also hickory smoked it a bit. I had to run before the rest of the family ate but I did snag 2 oz or so off the Turkey and it tasted pretty darn good to me. However, I didn't eat anything else I prepared and shaved 2oz off the chicken in my stir-fry so cal intake is the same.

Random Stuff:
Going to a Royals game on Thursday with some family which is awesome because for years I was too afraid to go since I didn't think I could fit into the seats. Now that will present some challenges in the ubiquitous crap food available at the ballpark but I'm not too worried. I have a goal, I have my food to eat, and I won't jeopardize that.

However my dad decided to reserve us some dinner reservation at at a restaurant and won't tell me where. I really don't want to go to any restaurant but he swears I can eat the food there. Sigh, Dad is really supportive and I think he's just trying to be nice but I really, really don't want to go.

Workout:
Doggies harness experiment a great success

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mascaria
Sep 24, 2004


Any restaurant that is worth anything will cook a chicken breast for you the way you want it.

Awesome that the harness worked!

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010
JALAPENOS ARE TOO SPICY



Good on ya for resisting those cake balls. I had some friends make me a box of those covered in white chocolate for my birthday this year and once I had one I had to have at least two more. Even though one is filling enough to my stomach.

adaz
Mar 7, 2009



mascaria posted:

Any restaurant that is worth anything will cook a chicken breast for you the way you want it.

Awesome that the harness worked!

You're right of course. Thinking on it more I it's fear that is making me not want to go. I'm afraid I'll do something stupid and not stick to the plan. It's like I am scared of food so I don't want to go to a place where there is a ton of food.

Which is kind of silly considering I've stuck to the plan for nearly 15 weeks so far, I'll be going with my sister who is Der Fuhrer when it comes to food and knows this program/what I can eat, and any restaurant can make me a darn plain chicken breast. Plus I go grocery shopping quite often, have sat with people and ate with people while on this diet... I have a hundred reasons to not be worried and yet here we are!

Piggles
Oct 10, 2006

Wilson with the Hail Mary to Tate!


Saw the thread title and username and thought it wasn't real.

God drat Adaz, good on you.


What's surprising to me is how a person who is as dedicated as you (as noted by your loving hour and a half walks and extremely strict and unappetizing diet) can get to that weight in the first place.

Once it's managed there won't be a goal you cannot accomplish.

adaz
Mar 7, 2009



Piggles posted:

What's surprising to me is how a person who is as dedicated as you (as noted by your loving hour and a half walks and extremely strict and unappetizing diet) can get to that weight in the first place.

Once it's managed there won't be a goal you cannot accomplish.

I got this huge because I'm a selfish son of a bitch who ignored every warning sign and problem because I wanted things done my way. I didn't care that my way of consuming like 7000 calories a day and never exercising doesn't work you all were wrong and it's fine to be 502 lbs and drunk every day. That and of course when I was using I really didn't care about my body as well, booze was far more important. When I sobered up I focused on cleaning up and staying sober first and fixing my weight later. Then I admittedly got a bit lazy and now here we are!

I'm an alcoholic and that's how we roll.

quote:

Selfishness – self-centeredness! That, we think, is the root of our troubles. Driven by a hundred forms of fear, self-delusion, self-seeking, and self-pity, we step on the toes of our fellows and they retaliate. Sometimes they hurt us, seemingly without provocation, but we invariably find that at some time in the past we have made decisions based on self which later placed us in a position to be hurt.

The alcoholic is an extreme example of self-will run riot, though he usually doesn’t think so. Above everything, we alcoholics must be rid of this selfishness. We must, or it kills us!

Also there is something to be said for having done one or two hard things in your life giving you the confidence to do something else really difficult. This is pretty hard, but I know I can do it. Sometimes it's about reminding yourself that you've done this before you don't have to give in. You know, week 8 or 9 of 800 cal diets when you're staring at that cheeseburger and telling yourself you can't resist it you're lying to yourself because you have resisted doing that the previous weeks. Or when you get ready to go on a walk or do some exercise and tell yourself no I'm too sore, it's too cold, I can't do this it's too hard you are also lying to yourself because you've done it before.

adaz fucked around with this message at May 14, 2012 around 22:36

Dross
Sep 26, 2006

Every night he puts his hot dogs in the trees so the pigeons can't get them.


Willpower's like all your other muscles, it gets stronger with exercise.

Vomax
Oct 12, 2005
Future strongfatman champion


adaz posted:

Also there is something to be said for having done one or two hard things in your life giving you the confidence to do something else really difficult. This is pretty hard, but I know I can do it. Sometimes it's about reminding yourself that you've done this before you don't have to give in. You know, week 8 or 9 of 800 cal diets when you're staring at that cheeseburger and telling yourself you can't resist it you're lying to yourself because you have resisted doing that the previous weeks. Or when you get ready to go on a walk or do some exercise and tell yourself no I'm too sore, it's too cold, I can't do this it's too hard you are also lying to yourself because you've done it before.

Absolutely this. Every success you have makes the next challenge less intimidating.

adaz
Mar 7, 2009



^^^
Yep, one of the best things I learned from the group sessions at the weight management place.

Dross posted:

Willpower's like all your other muscles, it gets stronger with exercise.

I don't know if willpower has ever really been my problem. I know that sounds weird coming from an alcoholic 500lb dude. But addiction doesn't have a whole lot to do with willpower and as far as food... I think it was the misuse of willpower. I mean, it takes a certain type of person to ignore every aspect of society/health and just keep eating.

I don't know. I will say this, the PROPER use of willpower certainly does function like a muscle. It gets good reinforcement and becomes easier to use.

Daily Update 05/14/2012

Weigh in tomorrow!

Cals: 1053
3 1/2 x Optifast = 560
6 oz Chicken = 276
2 tbsp Stir-Fry = 50
1 tsp olive oil = 25
1 cup celery = 18
1/2 cup onion = 34
1/2 cup carrots = 30
1 honeycrisp apple (don't judge me!) = 60


Workout:
4.46 miles or thereabouts not including a bit of a detour as my little puppy got out of her harness somehow. Luckily enough the trail I walk is right through the heart of residential areas and we were next to a park so she just ran around there for about 5 minutes before she missed her big brother and ran back


Also, goal reached . I think I hit this in about 3 weeks

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DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?


This thread owns, your progress owns, owns almost as much at the St. Louis Rams 2012 draft.

mascaria
Sep 24, 2004


adaz posted:


Also, goal reached . I think I hit this in about 3 weeks



There should be fanfare and maybe confetti with this image! Congrats!

Tenchrono
Jun 2, 2011



About 59.99 miles more than me so far!

Regnevelc
Jan 12, 2003

I'M A GROWN ASS MAN!

nice work dude, congrats on hitting that milestone!

Bedevere
Jun 24, 2005


It's me, I'm the goon who posts more in Front Page Discussion than in his fitness log.


adaz posted:

I mean, it takes a certain type of person to ignore every aspect of society/health and just keep eating.

I feel you. I think on the Cormac McCarthy line: Those whom life does not cure death will. Ego, will and pride drive us in funny ways, and these effort can just as easily go in a bad direction. It's refreshing to see someone redirect these things in a positive way.

adaz
Mar 7, 2009



Thanks everyone. Next run farther goal is 100 mi in 4 weeks but Nike+ is having some maintenance and says not to set a goal that goes beyond may 30th so will have to wait a bit before starting that one. Currently working on 15,000 cals in 4 weeks which is going just fine.

DariusLikewise posted:

This thread owns, your progress owns, owns almost as much at the St. Louis Rams 2012 draft.

Janoris Jenkins is probably going to be real good, Isaiah Pead mehhhh but sure!

Chib
Nov 20, 2006

by angerbot


That's a huge goal, congrats. It's really cool to see the log in the original post: 1 mile, 2 miles, 2 miles, 3! miles... 4!

Pretty soon it'll be a daily half marathon or something.

Epic High Five
Sep 12, 2010



Hellogoon, fellow Alchy goon! Excellent progress already! Soon you'll be longing for the days long past when such crazy things as pickup baseball games existed

Being both healthy AND sober is awesome and you're going to love it. You deserve it. Will be following your log for sure.

adaz
Mar 7, 2009



weigh-in day

-7.1, down 110.7

code:
date     weight   difference    total
1/31/12  502.6
2/07/12  491.0    -11.6         -11.6
2/14/12  481.9    -9.1          -20.7
2/21/12  473.9    -8.0          -28.7
2/29/12  468.2    -5.7          -34.4
3/06/12  460.9    -7.3          -41.7
03/13/12 455.6    -5.3          -47.0
03/20/12 449.6    -6.0          -53.0
03/27/12 442.1    -7.5          -60.5
04/03/12 434.8    -7.3          -67.8
04/10/12 427.2    -7.6          -75.4
04/17/12 418.5    -8.7          -84.1
04/24/12 414.1    -4.1          -88.5
05/01/12 408.3    -5.8          -94.3
05/08/12 399.0    -9.3          -103.6
05/15/12 391.9    -7.1          -110.7
PICS
Snapshotting 391.9


... but I forgot to put my name in pic and when I snapped it again it randomly went up by .2 lbs


total sheet, with name even!


Week 1 labs... although I forgot to snap the first page whoops will get it later on this week:



week 15 labs, you can see that one high liver enzyme that is basically always like that and one of my cholesterol thingies is low:

adaz
Mar 7, 2009



Chib posted:

That's a huge goal, congrats. It's really cool to see the log in the original post: 1 mile, 2 miles, 2 miles, 3! miles... 4!

Pretty soon it'll be a daily half marathon or something.

I will have to screenshot the entire series sometime. Of course when I originally got my nano I was having issues with it recording the correct distance so there is a lot of them that are split into two that are actually 1 walk just me trying to calibrate it.

I think 4.4 is where I'm stopping for now. An hour and a half is a good chunk of my day and one of the things the weight people have emphasized over and over is to find a sustainable exercise routine. Still, I will probably increase it by a one off here and there.

e: or now, because this thread needs more pics. The 4 mile walks in the first one are from when I was walking in 2006.




Epic High Five posted:

Hellogoon, fellow Alchy goon! Excellent progress already! Soon you'll be longing for the days long past when such crazy things as pickup baseball games existed

Being both healthy AND sober is awesome and you're going to love it. You deserve it. Will be following your log for sure.

If being healthy is 1/5th as awesome as being sober poo poo's going to rule. My first sponsor said that weight loss can be kind of an amend I'm making to myself, that has helped.

Promises rule, sobrierity rules, weight loss rules

adaz fucked around with this message at May 16, 2012 around 02:29

Epic High Five
Sep 12, 2010



adaz posted:

If being healthy is 1/5th as awesome as being sober poo poo's going to rule. My first sponsor said that weight loss can be kind of an amend I'm making to myself, that has helped.

Promises rule, sobrierity rules, weight loss rules

I'd say they're differently equal <insert smile that i cant remember the bbcode for on my phone>. On the one hand, nothing really compares to being sober and remembering poo poo like where your phone is after years of...well...not the wisest life choices. No matter how long it's been though, its unpleasant and tough sometimes.

On the other hand, being in shape and happy with your body is something that's awesome all day, every day, and you get more days to enjoy as a bonus!

Even when you're sleeping! Coming from 500lbs+, I would say especially when you're sleeping.

adaz
Mar 7, 2009



^^^^
My wife says I no longer snore so hey!

Log Update 05/15/2012

Cals/Food: Basically identical to yesterday, 1090 or thereabouts.

This week I'm supposed to add 90 cals or so worth of dairy but fuuuuck that so nutritionist said I could instead add a few more oz's of meat or more veggies so we'll start that tomorrow.

Exercise:

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dantheman650
Jun 2, 2009



Wonderful! An hour and a half of exercise is a big chunk of the day, but as you lose more weight you'll be able to experiment with some different types of exercise to vary it up

Dross
Sep 26, 2006

Every night he puts his hot dogs in the trees so the pigeons can't get them.


adaz posted:

^^^^
My wife says I no longer snore so hey!

I wonder if I do now. I know I did a little bit when I was at my biggest, especially when drunk.

Regnevelc
Jan 12, 2003

I'M A GROWN ASS MAN!

Dross posted:

I wonder if I do now. I know I did a little bit when I was at my biggest, especially when drunk.

When my wife was consistently working out she quit snoring. She took a few weeks off and I've had to sleep on the couch more often than not.

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adaz
Mar 7, 2009



Dross posted:

I wonder if I do now. I know I did a little bit when I was at my biggest, especially when drunk.

Not sure varies for about everybody but doc said one of the most common causes of sleep apnea/snoring is being overweight. My wife no longer has to wear earplugs to bed so hey I feel good about that!

Daily Update 05/16/2012

Cal Intake: 1173
Went to a restaurant for first time since been on this diet. It was a local one and on the advice of the program nutritionist I got the salmon salad thing with their balsamic vinaigrette dressing. Scratch kitchen place so measurements are approximate

4 x Optifast = 640
1 x Honeycrisp = 60
6oz salmon = 241
2 cups lettuce = 16
2 tbsps balsamic vinaigrette = 186
1/2 cup misc veggies = 30


Exercise
Had the day off so went to go get some mulch and dirt to do some yard work. Was busy impressing the wife by tossing the 40lbs bags in the back of the truck when I pulled a muscle in my back. Figures. Still walked, but slow and painful. Will probably take the day off tomorrow as a rest day to let back heal plus I'll be down in KC for most of the day watching the royals.

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