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adaz posted:Still walked, but slow and painful.  Either way, lift with your legs, not your back. This will be something to practice once you start exercising with weights and stuff.
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adaz posted:...slow and painful... watching the royals. Sounds about right. (Former KC goon, unfortunate fan)
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| # ? May 17, 2012 04:55 |
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Soopafly posted:Sounds about right. (Former KC goon, unfortunate fan) Hey, you're better than the Twins so far.
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| # ? May 17, 2012 07:31 |
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adaz posted:
It's cool, you bought paper made of lead. Easy mistake to make.
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| # ? May 17, 2012 09:43 |
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^^^^ It all makes sense now. Alfajor posted:Might have felt like slow, but your Nike+ shows that you had about the same time for your usual distance! But how will I look cool throwing bags  . Woke up this morning and am reminded that looking cool is often painful. Or at least thinking I looked cool.. considering I was getting laughed at.Also Korby Puckett my favorite part of the twins is their -68 run differential. Hoo lordy that bad
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| # ? May 17, 2012 12:47 |
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Daily Update 05/17/2012 Cal Intake: 1074 Tough one to figure out today, was down in KC and went to a restaurant with my family. Had the meal in pic (Vietnamese crab spring rolls, very little sauce) and a few raw oysters plus my normal stir-fry but here is my best estimate. I skipped an optifast, my apple, and dairy because I was afraid I was going to be taking in too many calories. Looks like I got it right though. 3 x Optifast = 480 6 oz Chicken = 276 1 cup celery = 18 1/2 cup onions = 34 1/2 cup green peppers = 30 1/4 Cup Carrots = 15 1/4 cup raw oysters = 42 2 oz crab meat = 55 1/4 cup misc veggies = 50 2 tbsp Stir Fry Sauce = 50 1 rice paper = 20 4oz Daikon = 20 1 Cup pea shoots = 9 2 tsp sweet/sour sauce = 14 Exercise Off day as back was healing up plus was really exhausted after spending all day in KC at the game. On the plus side, game was fun(even if royals lost), seats were awesome, great time  . Back on walking bandwagon tomorrow.
adaz fucked around with this message at May 18, 2012 around 05:42 |
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Daily Update 05/18/2012 random: Successfully resisted the call of Diablo 3 after a late night due to chairing an AA meeting. I was going to walk this afternoon but it was 95 degrees with 30+mph winds gusting to 40(I'm a baby I know). Back on the walking train though . Had my weekly splurge of fresh fish and got a day-old halibut from my dad's fish guy. Getting fresh fish in the middle of Nebraska, unfortunately, costs too much for me to do it more than once a week or so.I post these pics more to remind myself that food can be good with great nutrition to fuel muscle growth all wrapped in the same package with low calories. This week I also want to show them to my program nutritionist for tips on foods I'm including too much of/not including enough of. I'm trying a bunch of veggies this week to see what I can tolerate and what is really good nutrition wise. I even tried asparagus (still gross). It's hard to eat enough to really build muscle when you are only burning around 1000-1100 a day but I definitely want to preserve as much muscle mass as possible.  Cal Intake: 994 8oz halibut = 250 halibut marinade = 50 1/2 cup yellow squash = 15 1/2 cup zucchini = 12 1/4 cup carrot = 15 1/4 cup red onion = 12 1 jazz apple = 60 4 x optifast = 640 Exercise: pretty windy outside but yay for rest days. adaz fucked around with this message at May 19, 2012 around 07:23 |
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I like my asparagus almost burnt. Green beans the same way. As little olive oil as you can get away with to cover them, salt (+garlic powder for the green beans), stick under the broiler/on the grill until a lightly charred. Mmmm, so good. What about rhubarb? It's rhubarb season right now, at least around here. Tons of the fresh stuff at farmer's markets, fairly cheap. So, so good.
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| # ? May 19, 2012 15:05 |
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TFF solidarity  Good job dude. You should start listing your weight lost in football players.
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| # ? May 19, 2012 16:27 |
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^^^^ Trying to think of the smallest NFL player and I come up with Darren Sproles who is like 190. Korby Pockett posted:I like my asparagus almost burnt. Green beans the same way. As little olive oil as you can get away with to cover them, salt (+garlic powder for the green beans), stick under the broiler/on the grill until a lightly charred. Mmmm, so good. Hrrm know of any good rhubarb recipes that aren't in like pies? I'd be willing to give it a shot. I still think me and asparagus will never get along
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| # ? May 19, 2012 19:46 |
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adaz posted:I still think me and asparagus will never get along A shame. There's nothing more fun than having pee that smells like death.
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| # ? May 19, 2012 20:12 |
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Korby Pockett posted:I like my asparagus almost burnt. Green beans the same way. As little olive oil as you can get away with to cover them, salt (+garlic powder for the green beans), stick under the broiler/on the grill until a lightly charred. Mmmm, so good. Almost-burnt green beans are the best things. Actually, a lot of veges like being almost-burnt. cauliflower's good that way too.
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Funkutron5000 posted:A shame. There's nothing more fun than having pee that smells like death. is this supposed to go in the plus column orrrrr Daily Update 05/19/2012 cal intake: 1170 4 x optifast = 640 8oz chicken = 350 (I get so many divergent answers on how many cals are in ounces of chicken...) 1/2 cup zucchini = 15 1/2 cup yellow squash = 12 1/2 cup red onion = 34 1/2 cup celery = = 9 2 tbsp Stir Fry sauce = 50 1 jazz apple = 60 random: Been trying to keep my water intake over 150oz a day but slipped last few days due to bingin' on diet mountain dew for Diablo 3 Success. Back to it today though after a trip to the grocery store, god bless this stuff. No sodium, no calories, and a small amount of vitamin b/d/.  Exercise: Walking the dogs after a thunderstorm is Great Fun. Apparently all the old smells washed away so they needed to smell all the new smells.
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adaz posted:^^^^ Obviously your motivation should be to move up from losing a Sproles to a Suh
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Generally I hate the fruit flavored diet water things but those Sparkling Ices are amazing. How did you prepare the asparagus that you still hated it? With most vegetables it's all in how you cook them.
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^^^^^^^^ It's like crack and even at 10/$10 I'm spending too much money on it. Oodles of Wootles posted:Obviously your motivation should be to move up from losing a Sproles to a Suh I'm like borderline 6'3 dunno if getting myself down to 194 is a reasonable goal but it's something to think on! Also I found out a way of cooking asparagus I don't hate thanks to mom! A few teaspoons of zesty Italian dressing then grilled over charcoal Daily Update 05/20/2012 Cal intake: 1240.5 feel bad was at parents house for dinner and I didn't measure out stuff so ending up eating too much chicken. Actually 10 ounces is a guess too, it was a normal sized chicken breast and 2/3 extra slices off of another one. 4 x Optifast = 640 10 oz Chicken = 460 2 cups Misc grilled veggies = 70 1 tablespoon zesty Italian dressing = 54.5 (estimate, used 3 tablespoons for like a whole big bowl of veggies for everyone then grilled it) 2 cups salad = 16 Exercise: adaz fucked around with this message at May 21, 2012 around 05:10 |
| # ? May 21, 2012 04:51 |
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If you're going to accidentally overeat, chicken is probably the best way to do it. I know the strict calorie counting is working amazingly well for you but chicken is incredibly low calorie compared to both portion size and amount of protein. Also, especially as you get closer to your goal weight and increase the amount of exercise you do, it's not the end of the world at all to take in a few extra calories here and there. What I'm trying to say is don't beat yourself up - you're doing incredibly well!
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| # ? May 21, 2012 23:06 |
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drat man this is awesome. I knew you had the drinking issue from TFF posts but I had no clue about your weight. Great progress. Can't wait to see you meet your goal.
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dantheman650 posted:If you're going to accidentally overeat, chicken is probably the best way to do it. I know the strict calorie counting is working amazingly well for you but chicken is incredibly low calorie compared to both portion size and amount of protein. Also, especially as you get closer to your goal weight and increase the amount of exercise you do, it's not the end of the world at all to take in a few extra calories here and there. What I'm trying to say is don't beat yourself up - you're doing incredibly well! I know, I'm trying not to beat myself up it's just I have done so well without cheating, although I guess this counts, that when I slip I get angry at myself because there is no cause for it. But you are right, plain grilled chicken breast is probably one of the "best" things I could've cheated on. And thanks Ribsauce! Also weigh-in day tomorrow, always get nervous around those! Daily Update 05/21/2012 Cals: 1185 4 x Optifast = 640 8 oz Chicken = 368 2 tbsp stir fry sauce = 50 1 tsp soy sauce = 10 1/4 cup celery = 5 1/4 cup onion = 15 1/4 cup yellow pepper = 25 1/4 cup red pepper = 12 1 jazz apple = 60 Also got my weekly fish order in for this weekend, who wants fresh swordfish  Exercise: No dogs tonight, their harness have been wearing off fur and they've taken to licking the spots making it worse. We have really nice harness and are as perfect of a fit as we can make them so I think the dogs just need 3 rest days a week instead of 1 to prevent it. Also figured out the iPod Nano won't recalculate the calories after you calibrate it. Like tonight it under-recorded my walk by nearly a full mile and even after I fixed it it never readjusted the cals. Grr.
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| # ? May 22, 2012 04:18 |
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Your weigh in tomorrow is going to be awesome.
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| # ? May 22, 2012 04:47 |
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mascaria posted:Your weigh in tomorrow is going to be awesome. Agreed! I'm actually anxiously awaiting your update. This log is super exciting to follow
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 weigh-in day-3.5, down 114.2 total  Weight Loss by week code:Total food calories for the week is right around 8000. Walks burned right around 6,000 calories. 3.5lbs of fat is 10,500 calories. (8000 + 10,5000) - 6000/7 = 1785.7 Cals/Day as like resting metabolism which is way to low for my body mass so it's gotta be that extra sodium intake or my body randomly retaining water. It could also be a massive increase in muscle mass I suppose. It will even out eventually. Diff sheet to date: 
adaz fucked around with this message at May 23, 2012 around 01:38 |
| # ? May 23, 2012 00:51 |
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You're still doing awesome so whatevs .
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adaz posted:It will even out eventually. Yep! You're in it for the long haul. 3.5 pounds is still nothing to sneeze at - pick up a 2.5 pound dumbbell and realize you've lost that and more in just a week. That weight is no longer being carried around on your joints! Also, if you look at VG's log, there were times when his weight was super volatile just thanks to water retention.
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Shine posted:You're still doing awesome so whatevs The first time I ever hit a "low" number - that 4.1 lb week - I was pretty bummed out. But like Dantheman said I read VG's log and looked around, there are a lot of random things that can affect weight loss and it is a marathon not a sprint. My brother in particular tends to bounce between losing 10lbs and losing 1 lb so in a way I've been pretty consistent. With that said, I do have kind of a sprint goal coming up. I'm flying down to Orlando on June 10th for Microsoft's Tech Ed. My brother flew a few weeks ago at 370 and said it was fine but not to be too much over that, so I really want to get close to that 370 mark before getting on a plane. Just one of the many things being overweight has screwed with over the years. And yeah Dan I was heaving 50lb bags of mulch the other day (when I threw out my back) and now that you mention that I realize I've lost like 2+ of those which is pretty goddamn crazy. Daily Update 05/22/2012 Cals: 1129 4 x Optifast = 640 8oz Chicken = 360 1 Cup Bell Peppers = 39 1/2 Cup Celery 10 1/2 Cup Red Onion = 30 2 tbsp stir fry sauce = 50 1 Granny Smith apple = 60 Random: New week, new diet plan. My calories will be a bit higher than what is on the sheet as the nutritionist wants me to continue taking in a more protein.  So I headed to the store tonight. For snacks picked up more apples, bite sized bell peppers, 100 calorie packs of popcorn, and a few lean pockets. I think next week I'm going to try and go the "make my own" route for snacks but I didn't have a ton of time tonight and didn't want to be unprepared tomorrow. I don't really like using that much processed food, want to stay on the veggie + meat wagon. Holy crap though it seems like a lot of food. and yes, I might have a flavored water drinking problem   Exercise: Stupid nano continues to underestimate my run by about a mile so calories get screwed up
adaz fucked around with this message at May 23, 2012 around 04:49 |
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You are doing great bro, keep it up!
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| # ? May 23, 2012 13:08 |
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I notice a few people in TFLC make really great displays of their meals. I envy the ability to add this aspect to meals because it seems like it must be fun to enjoy the event as something more than shoveling crap in your pie hole. I really love a good display, but I've always been a little utilitarian in my approach to my own meals. I am that guy who eats over the sink or who won't sit down. Hell I barely use utensils at home and have been yelled at for eating right from the stove.
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Bedevere posted:I notice a few people in TFLC make really great displays of their meals. I envy the ability to add this aspect to meals because it seems like it must be fun to enjoy the event as something more than shoveling crap in your pie hole. To be fair this was actually from a really nice restaurant in KC called bristol (http://www.bristolseafoodgrill.com/...location_id=109). However, I did work as a line cook at a scratch kitchen here in town all throughout college so I do try and make my food look good. Especially vegetables, lots and lots of colorful vegetables. It seems like it makes the food look better you know. WIth that said I do have the same tendency to just shovel the food down quickly on my way to do something else which is probably something to work on. Daily Log 05/23/2012 Cals: 1244 3 x Optifast = 480 8oz Chicken = 360 1 Cup Bell Peppers = 39 1/2 Cup Celery 10 1/2 Cup Red Onion = 30 1/2 cup Carrots = 30 2 tbsp stir fry sauce = 50 1 Granny Smith apple = 60 1 Pinata Apple = 60 1/2 Lean Pocket = 125 Exercise 15+mph winds + 6th day of workout routine + hot and muggy = slow as gently caress
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Boring day y'all. Although was trying to help a coworker lose weight which is a new thing for me. There's no reason she should have issues she bikes 4+miles to work, walks at lunch, and exercises 6 nights a week for an hour+ but she was eating too much junk poo poo food. I think we calculated her calorie burn as over 3600 in a single day which is pretty impressive considering she is 42 and weighs about 165. Anyway, new experience. Daily Update 05/24/2012 Cal Intake: 1234 3 x Optifast = 480 8oz Chicken = 360 1 Cup Bell Peppers = 39 1/2 Cup Red Onion = 30 1/2 cup Carrots = 30 2 tbsp stir fry sauce = 50 1 Granny Smith apple = 60 1 Pinata Apple = 60 1/2 Lean Pocket = 125 Exercise: None today, rest day . However it feels boring with no pictures so here ya go
adaz fucked around with this message at May 29, 2012 around 20:55 |
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adaz posted:Boring day y'all. Although was trying to help a coworker lose weight which is a new thing for me. There's no reason she should have issues she bikes 4+miles to work, walks at lunch, and exercises 6 nights a week for an hour+ but she was eating too much junk poo poo food. I think we calculated her calorie burn as over 3600 in a single day which is pretty impressive considering she is 42 and weighs about 165. I'm no expert, for sure, but I've heard that if you do the same commute day-in and day-out that you become more efficient at it and it ceases to be an exercise (edit: for weight-loss purposes). I biked about 20km/day for the last 5 months and saw no change after the first month.
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Chib posted:I'm no expert, for sure, but I've heard that if you do the same commute day-in and day-out that you become more efficient at it and it ceases to be an exercise (edit: for weight-loss purposes). I biked about 20km/day for the last 5 months and saw no change after the first month. Then pedal harder. You wouldn't expect to get better at squats if you did 5x185 every single session, right? Also, absolutely nobody burns anywhere near as many calories exercising as they think they do. The people who burn the most calories from exercising are those who need that the least (people in great shape already). This is why I encourage folks to focus on diet to move their weight, and think of exercise as something to improve health and appearance, while giving a modest bonus to the weight loss efforts.
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| # ? May 25, 2012 11:35 |
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That's what the exercise and nutritionist people at the weight loss place have been saying Shine. By far the biggest contribution to your weight is going to be your nutrition and calorie intake unless you're like an Olympic athlete working out 4+ hours every day. It's far easier to control your calorie intake than try to exercise to burn off the extra and they are right. I mean, ok Nike+ says I burn like 900-1000 calories a walk which is probably too high but even if it's right the biggest change and extra burn for weight loss I get is just resting metabolism. I think people, and I know I've done this before, think that they can just lose a ton of weight by going to the gym 3 times a week for an hour and not change their eating habits but in reality they'd be far better off taking some time to change their eating habits and not going to the gym.
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adaz posted:I mean, ok Nike+ says I burn like 900-1000 calories a walk which is probably too high The formulae that get used to calculate energy expenditure tend to break down beyond a certain weight threshold. This also applies to the ones used to calculate base rates.
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Dross posted:The formulae that get used to calculate energy expenditure tend to break down beyond a certain weight threshold. This also applies to the ones used to calculate base rates. That is what I've heard, plus individual variation can really screw with them even more. I figure that 900-1000 is +/- 20% correct which is about all I can hope for I guess without a more advanced measuring system. Speaking of which I am kind of excited because the exercise guy at my weight loss program was talking to me about this device they are getting that they wanted me to beta test. It's basically a fancy body bug in that it's some sort of device you strap onto your upper arm and wear throughout the day. It tracks blood pressure, metabolic rate, pulse, etc and uploads that data to some central server so we can see and track metabolic rate and calorie burn throughout the day. I'm pretty excited to give it a shot at least.
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I have to say I agree with Chib, et al. I have walked 4 miles a day (to and from train on both ends) 5 times a week for nearly 4 years and managed to gain 60 lbs during that time. I have kept a 14 minute mile walking pace the whole time. I don't even count it now in my calculations because I am pretty sure my body has adjusted for the regular activity. Granted (per Shine) I cannot run and so can't really up the intensity of the walk (besides I would need a shower at work if I did). I like to believe it has helped me keep a decent health level though. Stable blood pressure, no heart issues, no cholesterol problems and no need for any meds at (an obese) 48 yrs old is unusual in the US.
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^^^^ You gained 60lbs because you ate enough to gain 60lbs. The "you get more efficient and burn way fewer calories" thing is basically bullshit. Google "Lyle Mcdonald Exercise Efficiency" for a nice writeup on that topic. Re: the thing you're testing, OP, Google Bodybugg to read about a similar device. Shine fucked around with this message at May 25, 2012 around 16:07 |
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"So we noticed a few minutes after you got home from work your heart rate got increasingly elevated for 5-10 minutes. What are you doing during that time?"
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| # ? May 25, 2012 16:03 |
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Shine posted:Then pedal harder. You wouldn't expect to get better at squats if you did 5x185 every single session, right? I guess I wasn't really talking about getting better or anything. I mean, I have a log, I've been running and lifting, and I'm making progress NOW. But none of that is really due to the 20-40km I bike per day. It's like my body doesn't even recognize that anymore. When I first moved here and started biking, I dropped pounds every week because I was working hard biking and walking. Now that stuff is second nature, and I have to actually DO something in order to lose weight. Adaz said that the woman was walking 4 miles per day. If she's been doing that for 5-6 months, it seems to me like it might fall in line with what I've heard others say: your body adapts to the energy expenditure that it sees every day and ultimately burns fewer calories than it did in the beginning. If you're telling me that's not the case, then that's fine, and I'll believe you. I'm in no position to ACTUALLY know. But what you said didn't contradict it, per say, so I just wanted to explain further what I meant. And of course, controlling calories in is more important with regards to losing weight than exercising. Edit: You edited your post while I was making mine. I read that article, and am willing to admit I'm wrong! I don't know what changed for me personally, as my diet as far as I can tell from not having tracked it, remained the same while I stopped losing weight at the same amount of work output. But science is science. v vChib fucked around with this message at May 25, 2012 around 16:20 |
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Chib posted:It's like my body doesn't even recognize that anymore. When I first moved here and started biking, I dropped pounds every week because I was working hard biking and walking. Now that stuff is second nature, and I have to actually DO something in order to lose weight.
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Google the article I just mentioned. E: instaposted. Yeah, that one.
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