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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:Are you going by the I/O plate arrangement? That's the one that's also on MSI's 980 Gaming, but it certainly does look the most like reference 980 with the squiggle-shaped vents instead of the truss pattern. ASUS has that plate the same exact way on their Strix 980 with rectangle vents. The other thing, if the picture on the site is accurate, is that the PCB is the same length as the 980, as compared to the stubby 760 PCB's being used by most companies. Also, if you look at the back it has a notch in the back that's found on the reference 980 PCB, but not on 970/760 PCB's.   Ak Gara posted:Someone correct me if I'm wrong but aren't 970's literally 980's with some shaders turned off etc? The 'reference' 970 PCB's that a lot of companies are using are 760 PCB's with a new chip on them, and they're much shorter than 980 PCB's. This one could literally be a 980 with bits disabled/hacked off.  The caveat in all this is that the picture on MSI's site is accurate and not some lazy-rear end intern taking the 980 picture, changing an "8" to a "7" and leaving it at that. Also, I see I can't spell "length" properly. Wistful of Dollars fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Oct 19, 2014 |
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Trip report: Coming from a MSI 550TI I bought a 2GB ZOTAC GeForce GTX 750TI and I'm happy as a clam. This thing delivered the little kick I expected of it and more. Admittedly I only play Street Fighter 4, Civ. 5, those Blizzard games and a bit of Counterstrike, but without Anti-Aliasing this is more than enough performance at 1080p. Also the fact that it only uses a maximum of 60 Watts is giving me warm tingles. I'm weird like that. 
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cisco privilege posted:If by 'recent' you mean 'since the 9700.' No, a handful of HD6950s, my old one included, unlocked into 6970s.
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He's just saying they've been doing that for a decade. The Radeon 9700 is much older than the HD6950. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you though.
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Endymion FRS MK1 posted:No, a handful of HD6950s, my old one included, unlocked into 6970s. Because they were 6970s to begin with. The 6950s were selling better, and to meet demand, AMD/ATI took their glutted inventory of 6970s and firmware-limited them, crossing their fingers that no one would notice, or bet on the fact that most end-users wouldn't risk violating their warranties.
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Cavauro posted:He's just saying they've been doing that for a decade. The Radeon 9700 is much older than the HD6950. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you though. Oh, no I misunderstood them. I read it as they hadn't done it since those days 
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Yeah that's what I meant. The ATI 9500's were 9700's that were mostly firmware locked, and the early X850pro's (and IIRC X800's & X1800's) tended to be firmware locked whereas they eventually fused them. Even some early Asus & Powercolor 290's could be unlocked to 290X's, but that ended pretty quickly. My backup GPU is actually an unlocked 6950 with an accelero cooler. Figure it's worth holding onto if I ever need to do RMAs and it has XFX's old lifetime warranty. Makes sense if you want to sell some lower-end parts and offload some cheaper VRAM vs. the high-end models, although they usually don't keep it up for long so they don't eat into sales of the higher-tier model. 6950's being unlockable seemed to last for quite awhile since alot of the AIB models with custom cooling had a good chance of unlocking. That the unlocked 6950's could usually hit 6970 GPU/VRAM clocks at the stock 6950 voltage was a nice bonus. future ghost fucked around with this message at 06:13 on Oct 20, 2014 |
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Are palit a decent brand, they seem to be the only ones instock at the moment here? Or should I just put a preorder on an asus/msi 970? Is this a reference cooler? Edit: I also noticed this gainward one is still available.
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On the same issue, does anyone have experience with Galaxy as a brand? There's no Asus where I live (online isn't an option) but I can get my mitts on the 980SOC
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Oct 20, 2014 10:43
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Hi "simple fish", have you tried the Mong Kok Computer Center?
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It's almost like I was at the Golden Computer Arcade yesterday
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How much does the Galaxy one cost?
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Oct 20, 2014 10:55
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About 3600RMB
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That's quite a bit cheaper than it is here!
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You can get Galaxy's overclocked 970 for about 2300RMB if you prefer
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Well, I just bought a new video card in Hong Kong about 4 months ago, so I don't really need it!
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track day bro! posted:Is this a reference cooler? It is, in fact, that's the first true 970 reference cooler I've seen in the wild. Too bad it's only UK, I'd be interested in one. track day bro! posted:I also noticed this gainward one is still available. Reusing the GTX 670 board for the 970 chip is already pretty funny, literally reusing the entire cooler is even better: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/07/31/gainward-geforce-gtx-670-2gb-phantom/1 Zero VGS fucked around with this message at 15:08 on Oct 20, 2014 |
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Zero VGS posted:It is, in fact, that's the first true 970 reference cooler I've seen in the wild. Too bad it's only UK, I'd be interested in one. That's been the standard cooler gainward uses on everything for ages - those fans pull out for cleaning on little sleds. Pity it doesn't perform as well as others and needs 3 slots, but hey at least you can keep it clean.
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The only place I can find a review for that gainward card was a german site so that isnt much help, i'm assuming that reference cooled one isnt worth the extra price over an msi/asus?
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track day bro! posted:The only place I can find a review for that gainward card was a german site so that isnt much help, i'm assuming that reference cooled one isnt worth the extra price over an msi/asus? If you have a case with poor airflow and/or SLI then having the reference cooler could be worth the premium. It can vent heat right out of the case and as reference coolers go it is overkill for the 970's heat output and uses a high quality fan and I think a vapor chamber, so it should run very cool and quiet in comparison to say the R9 290/290X reference.
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Speaking of poor airflow... I never bothered to add ventilation to my old Aztec Sonata case other than one default fan in the back. Never had any issues (2500k w/ Stock cooler, current GPU is a HD7870). Does the current generation of GPUs (and their cooling setup) require more ventilation inside the case by design? I am trying to get my hands on a MSI GTX 970 4 GAMING.
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kuroiXiru posted:Well poo poo. I took the plunge and ordered a pair of STRIX 970s three days ago, and the distributor just emailed me that due to a general shortage, they can only get my cards in two+ weeks. I actually canceled this order because a) I'm concerned that Nvidia might come out with new/better/higher VRAM cards towards the end of the year/beginning of next year, and I don't often get the chance to upgrade and b) I don't know if a single 970 will be enough to comfortably run games that don't support SLI at 1440p, especially compared to my current single 780ti. Are these valid concerns or am I being an idiot? There's a whole bunch of different 970s in stock now. It's getting harder to resist. Alternatively, I could save up some cash and get SLI 980s to solve problem b). mcbexx posted:Huh, a new MSI 970 GTX model showed up for preorder at my online retailer We've got those over here, too. It might be a better choice for SLI because of the blower design, maybe?
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Zero VGS posted:If you have a case with poor airflow and/or SLI then having the reference cooler could be worth the premium. It can vent heat right out of the case and as reference coolers go it is overkill for the 970's heat output and uses a high quality fan and I think a vapor chamber, so it should run very cool and quiet in comparison to say the R9 290/290X reference. They ditched the vapour chamber for the 900 series unfortunately. It it still pretty much overkill for a 145w chip 
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kuroiXiru posted:I actually canceled this order because
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Rastor posted:Speaking of it only being a 145w chip: gently caress, I might return my base Zotac for that one, even smaller and potentially might still have less coil whine and/or be a better overclocker. Zotac also limits the TDP in BIOS to have less potential than all other 970s as I understand it. Edit: also, on paper, a single 8-pin is supposed to be able to pull more watts than two six pins, is that true? Zero VGS fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Oct 21, 2014 |
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On paper they're supposed to be the same. 75+75 vs 150.
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I grabbed an MSI 970 Gaming 4G card from Newegg a couple of weeks ago when they showed up in stock to replace my aging 6850. Arrived yesterday, installed the card and everything was great until I launched a game (in this case Batman: Arkham Origins)... noticeable "bzzzzz" noise coming from the computer, audible across the room with the case enclosed. Seems to be related to high GPU load, at least from what I can see from the graphs in Afterburner. At first I thought it was the dreaded coil whine but after listening to some youtube videos it doesn't appear to be the case; it's not high-pitched at all and doesn't seem to modulate in frequency. It's a constant buzz while the GPU is under high load, and stops when the GPU load drops. It happens even when the fans are not running, and if I crank the fans to 100% using Afterburner, there is no buzzing while I'm at the Windows desktop. I was trying to isolate where the sound was coming from and I think it might actually be coming from my power supply - a 3 year old Antec Truepower 650W. Sounds like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htpfDrQYORA CPU is an i5 2500K and the mobo is an MSI P67A-C43. Time for a new PSU? tropical fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Oct 21, 2014 |
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kuroiXiru posted:I actually canceled this order because This is bound to happen as i'm pretty sure that Nvidia is holding their best stuff as trump cards for when AMD comes out with their new generation, and will then reply based on how good the new AMD cards are. It's highly unlikely that the new AMD cards won't beat the current 970's/980's but they're likely (imo at least) to be even more demanding in terms of cooling and power. Nvidia pretty much proved that they can come up with more efficient poo poo, especially in terms of performance/power ratio, so it's far easier for them to just buff their cards up with more bandwidth, memory, etc at the cost of more power since they have more room to do so. Anyway the best season to go all-out on a new card will probably be early summer next year when AMD puts new poo poo out and Nvidia reply, since competition, especially if it's close, will help put more quality cards at better prices out. That said the circle is probably going to continue so if you extend that logic you should always be waiting for the better card to come out, whether you're waiting for the best card of the current gen that squeezes every ounce of power of a particular GPU or whether it's a new-gen that's about to come out and replace said current-gen. I would've waited till spring-early summer as well tbh but i've been waiting for like 7 years already so i figured i should just go with the 970 especially since it is p cost-efficient right now. kuroiXiru posted:and b) I don't know if a single 970 will be enough to comfortably run games that don't support SLI at 1440p, especially compared to my current single 780ti. The 780ti outperforms 970 most of the time so why would you even consider switching it out? I actually wouldn't upgrade to a 970 even if i was on a 760 because i don't think it's worth the cash to do so. You should wait for sure.
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I just picked up an MSI 970 Gaming 4G last night and so far I am feeling very satisfied with the purchase. Benchmarks show it to be about equal with reference / stock clocked 980's. http://techreport.com/review/27203/geforce-gtx-970-cards-from-msi-and-asus-reviewed
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I'm on a GTX 570 and I'm itching to upgrade. I'd like to move up to a 970, but it would really be overkill for my 1680x1050, which is why I want to move up to a 1440p display. I'm also anticipating that Nvidia is going to release 20nm cards early next year, which I could be wrong about. I can only afford one of these things at the moment, so do I get the 1440p display and try to get by with the 570 until 20nm cards come out, or should I just go for the card? Or should I just wait until the 20nm cards come out, save my money, and get both the card and display in one shot? I don't really have a pressing need to have better graphics right this instant, and this will be the least important purchase I make, so I don't mind other people telling me what to do with my money on this.
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Also worth noting is that high/mid-high end graphics cards seem to hold their value relatively well. I just managed to sell my 670GTX for £180 on eBay, I bought it for £200 new just over a year ago. Not saying that you'll be able to sell a 970GTX for cost price in 6 months time, but maybe not so far off the original price should something new come out to dazzle you.
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Chalets the Baka posted:I'm on a GTX 570 and I'm itching to upgrade. I'd like to move up to a 970, but it would really be overkill for my 1680x1050, which is why I want to move up to a 1440p display. I'm also anticipating that Nvidia is going to release 20nm cards early next year, which I could be wrong about. I can only afford one of these things at the moment, so do I get the 1440p display and try to get by with the 570 until 20nm cards come out, or should I just go for the card? Or should I just wait until the 20nm cards come out, save my money, and get both the card and display in one shot? You can also try messing around with downsampling, nVidia officially supports it with a simple setting in the control panel now. Run the gave natively at a higher resolution than your monitor, downsample it down to your monitor's native res and enjoy clearer textures and better natural AA from running at a much higher resolution. Been messing around with that using a tool called Gedosato on my GTX 770 since Final Fantasy XIII decided that being locked at 720p in the year 2014 was acceptable for a PC game and starting to use it on other games.
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uaciaut posted:This is bound to happen as i'm pretty sure that Nvidia is holding their best stuff as trump cards for when AMD comes out with their new generation, and will then reply based on how good the new AMD cards are. Aren't AMD's next cards supposed to come with HBM in early 2015? Isn't HBM supposed to be amazing, especially for high resolutions?
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Anyone want offer thoughts on 670 vs 970? I'm running 1440p and the 670 does pretty well, but will probably start to show its age against newer titles.
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John DiFool posted:Anyone want offer thoughts on 670 vs 970? I'm running 1440p and the 670 does pretty well, but will probably start to show its age against newer titles. http://anandtech.com/bench/product/1349?vs=1355
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Just FYI, Newegg currently has ASUS STRIX GTX 970's in stock, I just grabbed two! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...ID=6202798&SID=
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John DiFool posted:Anyone want offer thoughts on 670 vs 970? I'm running 1440p and the 670 does pretty well, but will probably start to show its age against newer titles. 100% worth the upgrade if you have the cash to do so. Its a much faster card and has double the VRAM which helps a ton with 1440p gaming. I have a Radeon 7970 ghz edition, which was THE 1440p card to have a couple years ago, and the 970 demolishes it.
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John DiFool posted:Anyone want offer thoughts on 670 vs 970? I'm running 1440p and the 670 does pretty well, but will probably start to show its age against newer titles. 970 is clearly better, both in performance and energy/heat. However, if you aren't running into games you can't run acceptably now, wait because it will always be cheaper to buy in future. Once you find a game where you really think it looks better with those extra features turned on but it just isn't fast/smooth enough, then go out and buy. A lot of people in this thread really do want 'the latest shiny', and even if it's a great product with great performance, they may not have actually needed it right then.
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John DiFool posted:Anyone want offer thoughts on 670 vs 970? I'm running 1440p and the 670 does pretty well, but will probably start to show its age against newer titles. As I pointed out in my post you could possibly sell your 670 for a very good price and potentially get the 970 for near £100 or whatever your currency of choice is
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