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Beautiful Ninja posted:Mines shipped from City of Industry. I figure at this point supply is limited enough that don't have enough time to distribute cards across their various warehouses. My Gigabyte Windforce 1070 is supposed to arrive today, can't wait to see how soundly it demolishes my 770. Games won't tell me "No, you can't play at these settings you 2GB VRAM pleb" anymore. Man I have the same card as you, and I'm considering getting this or a 480. I guess by the time the 1070 is reliably in stock and I don't have to buy a founders edition, the 480 power draw issue will be resolved somehow. *sigh* I hate waiting. The weird thing is that my computer runs my games perfectly fine, my SFF case just recommends a blower style card.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2016 12:57 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 06:44 |
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So, this is going on: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121926 If the 480 is supposed to be equivalent to the 970, then this is a cheaper deal than the 480 ($199 after MiR). THe only issue is that it's blower style which (for me at least) is necessary since I use a SFF PC! And of course it's this goofy white thing but I never have to look at it, so I'm cool with it. Price drops are great considering all the other ones are like $300 and I don't think they'll be getting much lower than $199. I'm gonna buy it.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2016 15:29 |
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:I actually saw a review of that card a while back, other than it looking pretty cheap it's apparently pretty good for a blower card. The actual card's processor itself is pretty short but the case is long (almost 12 inches), and the fan is (supposedly) pretty great. The tradeoff is that it is so ugly I guess. sout posted:Its hard for me to not read "NV" as New Vegas instead of NVidia. Cards can have blower style coolers (also called reference) in that they have an intake fan on one end that sucks in ambient air and then blows air into the shell and across the card and out the exhaust port (where the ports are). The other ones are where they have fans mounted all across the card, usually with copper heat pipes and such so that they're able to more effectively dissipate heat into the case and away from the card. Blowers are better for smaller, tighter fits like small form factor PCs (like mine) that are about the size of an Xbox or for people who do Crossfire/SLI configurations where the heat generated from one card won't dissipate onto the other card. jokes fucked around with this message at 15:42 on Jul 2, 2016 |
# ¿ Jul 2, 2016 15:37 |
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snuff posted:And really noisy. Blower style fans are just plain not as good as their counterparts, they just have specific use-case scenarios. The way my PC is set up, it shouldn't have to speed its fan up too much. Probably.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2016 15:46 |
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Paul MaudDib posted:What, exactly, do you think "NVIDIA's launch issues" are? NVIDIA is sprinting headfirst into diminishing returns. At a point, they'll be charging $600 for a 10% gain in performance over their last generation of cards.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2016 16:17 |
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Paul MaudDib posted:
Well, if I can buy a 970 right now for $200, or a 1070 for $450, I hope the 1070 is about twice as good. But it's not. It's becoming a novelty thing instead of a performance thing-- a higher proportion of the value of the new card is wrapped up in it being the new hotness instead of literally offering significantly improved performance. If that trend continues because it doesn't have any real competitors, then there will just be less and less of a reason to upgrade to the new card. That being said, I'd love a 1070 and this generation seems spot-on, but I just can't justify the price point. I just imagine there'll be a trend in smaller and smaller performance gains per dollar value while they run into the same issues that other manufacturers are dealing with in miniaturizations. Didn't Intel piss everyone off because they thought they'd be able to deliver on a miniaturization goal but it proved to be beyond their reach? Besides, what am I getting in the 1070 over the 970 that's worth $200? Why would I get the 1070 instead of getting 200 cheese burgers and a 970? jokes fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Jul 2, 2016 |
# ¿ Jul 2, 2016 16:48 |
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Subjunctive posted:You have an iGPU for effectively free from Intel. Is the 970 200 times better than that? Well the iGPU can't perform tasks that the GPU can. Can the 1070 perform enough tasks that the 970 can't to justify the purchase?
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2016 16:53 |
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iGPUs are more of a laptop thing anyways and can't reeeeeally be considered in a gaming PC (at any budget).
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2016 16:57 |
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Just find any benchmark score, find the difference and divide it by the price difference. And then control for your use-case. Or just spend 10 seconds thinking about if it's worth it to spend an extra $200 if you have a 1080p monitor with 60Hz or whatever. I mean, everyone's different, I just think that the amount of people who actually want/need a card to perform any better will shrink and thus the performance of each new card won't get much better but the prices will stay the same. Linustechtips can only buy so many 1080s.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2016 17:07 |
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Josh Lyman posted:Buy an ASRock mobo, Core i5, and x70 GPU every other generation. This is pretty much the best advice on upgrading computers for 90% of users. It should go in the OP.
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2016 06:08 |
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KingKapalone posted:I've been rebuilding every 3 years but the last two cards I've gotten were a 760 and a 460. I'm getting a 1070 now but I've been told here that there's no need to upgrade the rest of my i5-4670k system. Yeah man i5s are killer, and if you overclock you'll get a ton of longevity out of it. The 760 is a good card too but is probably getting kind of long in the teeth since games are requiring a lot more VRAM these days.
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2016 08:38 |
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Weird. this card I bought yesterday off Newegg for $200 is back up to like $300. I thought prices were dropping everywhere, but as it stands the 480 (even with the weird power issue) is still a much better deal than the 970 and other cards in its price and performance range. Like, there's really no competition unless you're really lucky and find a great deal; it's a little bit weaker than the 970 but is like 60% of the price.
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2016 19:33 |
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Man bitcoins and bitcoin miners are dumb as poo poo. Imagine explaining it to a person at any moment of history ever, including in the future. Using graphics cards to generate currency that is essentially used solely to buy drugs and child porn and jerky that is cooked with the heat from bitcoin mining rigs. And also, the guy(s) who started the whole thing stole everyone's "money." Anyways, it'll one day overtake the US dollar as currency.
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2016 00:35 |
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Clearly the only true way to benchmark a GPU's performance is to test each GPU of a large set multiple times (n> 30) using a large amount of a random assortment of benchmarking software run by a randomly selected assortment of unbiased reviewers. Only then will we know which card run gam best.
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2016 12:48 |
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SwissArmyDruid posted:God, I hope there's a /s in there somewhere. I mean, technically, yes this is the only way to get truly statistically accurate and meaningful test results in these situations. Doing what I said would yield a result that would be near irrefutable. Of course it's infeasible, and people instead opt to just take manufacturers at their word and to trust reviews by people who receive a free graphics card from a manufacturer who run a single benchmark. I would prefer it if a review just either bought or received 5-10 of the same cards and ran them all in the exact same rig running the exact same test, and then doing the same for other benchmarking softwares. A lot of these reviews say things like "but ours has X limitation/boon, so you'll expect it to run better/worse depending on your situation. Also we tested it once." Just have one institute do a test correctly according to accepted modern statistics. jokes fucked around with this message at 13:19 on Jul 5, 2016 |
# ¿ Jul 5, 2016 13:14 |
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Well I flashed my GPU's BIOS so that I can set it at 0% fan speed and this changes everything I know about noise level, cooling, etc. when shopping for graphics cards.
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2016 10:56 |
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I wanna liquid cool my GPU, is there a guide or something to get me started?
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2016 19:27 |
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Seamonster posted:Vantec Tornado? f you mount enough of them on the bottom of your case you can make it move around your desk, making it the fastest gaming PC. jokes fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Jul 13, 2016 |
# ¿ Jul 13, 2016 19:54 |
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KingEup posted:I want to underclock a graphics card to elimanate some coil whine which I can do using AMD OverDrive. You might be able to gently caress with the maximum voltage in maxwell bios tweaker or something and then just flash the modified bios?
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# ¿ Aug 6, 2016 00:57 |
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Man, jet.com has some good deals on GTX 1080s. Discounting 12% before taxes compared to paying full price plus taxes everywhere else saves like a hundred bucks-- has anyone had issues buying stuff from there? Also, what GTX1080 models are lovely and explode or have coil whine or something? Specifically, I'm looking at this dude: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487244 jokes fucked around with this message at 10:21 on Feb 12, 2017 |
# ¿ Feb 12, 2017 10:13 |
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Crawl back to micro center it is.
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# ¿ Feb 12, 2017 10:39 |
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Josh Lyman posted:I can't help but feel like Jet was a scam specifically created to get bought out by Amazon or Walmart. Like most of those scams it worked!
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# ¿ Feb 12, 2017 10:52 |
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1080ti wouldn't be limited by a 1440p@144 monitor would it? My 1080 gets ~100 FPS now, and I really feel like the 1080 - 1080Ti difference is just not worth it.
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# ¿ Mar 13, 2017 19:50 |
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Enos Cabell posted:As a fellow 1080 / 1440p@144 owner, I'm planning to hold out for the 1180ti. 4k I might have a different tune. Same. I bought my 1080 recently and I got it pricematched to $489 from MicroCenter, so buying a $750 GPU for a barely noticeable 15 extra frames just ain't worth it.
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# ¿ Mar 13, 2017 20:08 |
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Zero VGS posted:Yeah, my case is a bit unorthodox, it does much better with open-air coolers though: This guy hasn't received enough recognition for how cool this setup is.
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# ¿ Mar 30, 2017 18:19 |
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What's the consensus on quiet GPU brands? I know that open-airs are always cooler, but I feel like for any given GPU there's got to be a manufacturer that focuses on silent cooling by using, like, rubberized components or slightly larger fans or something.
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# ¿ Mar 30, 2017 18:28 |
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Yeah, that's all about correct. My 1080/6770k setup gets me 120-144@1440p avg fps in every game (especially AAA) on max settings. I have no reason to upgrade to the Ti (nor the 1180Ti) since the difference between 120 and 90 isn't noticeable with a Gsync monitor and each generation of games doesn't really render old hardware obsolete. e: Also, I'd rather get 144Hz at 1080 than 30Hz at 4k, no question. I imagine most gamers are the exact same way unless they're streaming for money. jokes fucked around with this message at 17:16 on May 5, 2017 |
# ¿ May 5, 2017 17:13 |
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I went to micro center a couple months ago and did a thing where I bought and compared a G-sync 1440p@144Hz monitor to a non-G-sync 1440p@144Hz monitor with my same computer and it was resoundedly worth the $200 difference; no tearing, less motion blur, it was weirdly effective. If I had a 1080@60 monitor and a 9xx series GPU I'd probably just get a new monitor and make the jump in the 11xx generation, any lower I'd upgrade the GPU first, but probably both anyway. If I had a 10xx GPU and a 1080@60 monitor, absolutely get a new monitor no question. jokes fucked around with this message at 19:58 on May 5, 2017 |
# ¿ May 5, 2017 19:47 |
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Agreed, 1070 pricing is stupid and you should use it to upgrade to a 1080 for like $50.
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# ¿ May 10, 2017 16:57 |
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Check out the mod scene for Apple computers too. Simply cut a window out of the bottom of your Mac mini and solder a Noctua fan to the bottom and look at how much longer your i3 Mac mini works at high load!
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# ¿ Jul 16, 2021 17:57 |
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I bought a GPU (3080) that was used for mining and haven't had any problems-- no modified BIOS, no disassembly or anything, no overclocking. I even ran a benchmark and borrowed my buddy's 3080 and mine actually ran better than his (though only slightly), and he has the 12GB version. Why do people say used mining cards are hosed up and unusable? If anything, using a GPU for gaming would gently caress it up more than running a GPU all day for a few months. Some people online say the memory gets hosed up and you'll get black screens and artifacting in games even if a benchmark runs fine but that seems specious, and LTT said mining GPUs aren't a bad thing. I also bought this thing for about $475, so I've been trying to see if anything is wrong with it but I think miners are just fireselling these dudes and they also believe the news that mining GPUs are hosed up. jokes fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Sep 23, 2022 |
# ¿ Sep 23, 2022 15:01 |
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CoolCab posted:I think broadly, and I've said this in the crypto thread actually, that a lot of people want to punish the miners or otherwise internalised stuff that was true in the earliest run-as-hard-as-you-can bitcoin mining days in like 2014 or whatever. also because people very justifiably hate crypto nerds the idea that they are literally running this stuff into the ground was more appealing than the more complex reality. I see that all over reddit. People will say, begrudgingly, that mining GPUs are fine but then they say "but I would never give money to a dirty crypto miner because of the damage they've done to gamers", which is a huge lol I mean, gently caress bitcoin miners but them inconveniencing gamers is not the reason you should hate them
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2022 15:24 |
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hobbesmaster posted:
I read that specifically the FE 3080s are the ones with the inadequate cooling on the VRAM.
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2022 15:32 |
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eBay has some good deals now and miners are loving desperate and you can give them severe underbids, and IIRC eBay is more protective of buyers than sellers. The one I bought was listed at $600 and I put in a bid for $450 and got it, but after taxes and poo poo it was like $480 or whatever. Just screen the posts and make sure they don't gently caress with the bios, don't overlock them, and don't disassemble it and you should be good to go (I think, but we'll see! I've never bought a secondhand GPU before).
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2022 17:38 |
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^^^^ Nice, which one did you get? I got an ASUS TUF. In case nobody wanted to watch those videos, buying secondhand ex-mining 3090s is a major minefield (lol) because the memory specifically overheats from mining and really gets hosed up compared to 3080/Tis. Sometimes they even explode like a real minefield! jokes fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Sep 23, 2022 |
# ¿ Sep 23, 2022 19:54 |
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I have a feeling that, since the new NVIDIA GPUs are so expensive they're not going to suppress the 3000 series GPUs' price very much. Before it was like "why spend $600 on a 2-year-old GPU when you can get a new one for $700" now it's like "the new one is $1200" so paying near MSRP for an old GPU is very valid Also, a responsibly (lol) used mining card will probably be less hosed up than a gamer's card over the same time period apparently.
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2022 20:36 |
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I could buy a gaming computer or I can buy a graphics card for about the same price
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# ¿ Sep 24, 2022 02:44 |
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Sorry, the $1600 MSRP graphics card is the value buy?
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# ¿ Sep 24, 2022 03:50 |
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spunkshui posted:Windows 95: Good Windows 11 is good, it's dumber than 10 and that's a good thing
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# ¿ Sep 24, 2022 08:32 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 06:44 |
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SwissArmyDruid posted:In a rare feat of competence, Microsoft Surfaces are where it's at, with the 3:2 when it comes to getting poo poo done. I’m also using a Surface Pro 8 with an eGPU and it performs about as well as my i7-10700 in gaming
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