GPU Megat[H]read - the cores of wrath grew heavy on the die that day

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snuff: Jul 16, 2003

I just ordered a Sapphire R9 390, for a lower price than any of the GTX 970 I could find. Currently using a GTX 660ti but after upgrading to a 1440p monitor it's really starting to feel old.

Mostly excited to play total warhammer when it comes out, but also a lot games that are more like a slideshow right now and with next gen seemingly so far away, please tell me I made the right/wrong decision.

# ¿ Feb 28, 2016 21:06

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 13:08

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

Blacktoll posted:

So, I'm mincing between a 970 or a 390x. I game on a 1680 x 1050 monitor(s) so I don't need an overly powerful gpu but I want to get out from underneath my 760 which just doesn't cut it anymore. The only reason I'm hesitant is that I hated my last AMD cards driver support. Because statistically it appears that the 390x completely destroys the 970.

Help.

Edit: I want to add that it's been years since my last AMD card so if the driver support has gotten better, I'd believe it.

You should really compare the 970 to the 390, at a low resolution like that I would go for the 970 (and this is coming from someone who just ordered a 390)

And yes, the 390x destroys the 970.

Also worth considering is if you want a free the division game or a free hitman game.

# ¿ Feb 29, 2016 16:26

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

THE DOG HOUSE posted:

Is this true? I never looked into it.

Yes

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/12/22/asus_r9_390_strix_directcu_iii_video_card_review/10

# ¿ Feb 29, 2016 17:04

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

THE DOG HOUSE posted:

Ah there we are.

Can you provide source to earlier "390x destroys 970" though cause that would be news to me

Sorry but I'm not going to use google for you, I have no stake in AMD or NVIDIA just posting facts. If you want to compare cards performance wise you should compare the GTX 980 to the 390X.

# ¿ Feb 29, 2016 17:12

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

I'm sorry I triggered that guy for re-using the word "destroy", I should have said "performs better than"

Which it should do, it's about $100 more expensive and it's not going to win any price/performance award.

# ¿ Feb 29, 2016 18:30

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

exquisite tea posted:

On the subject of the GTX 970, is it still the best price:performance investment for current-gen if all I wanna do is play at max settings @ 1080 with minimal overclock finagling?

Pretty much neck and neck with the R9 390, if you move up to 1440p the 390 wins out. The AMD card also seems more future proof with better DX12 support and more ram.

Personally I would rate the R9 390 a 8/8 and the GTX 970 a 3.5/4.

# ¿ Mar 7, 2016 12:13

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

Also worth considering is the game bundle, both camps include mediocre AAA games so that is like a $30-40 rebate.

Asus even has their own bundle with that far cry reskin so that's like $60-80.

# ¿ Mar 7, 2016 12:27

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

Sundowner posted:

My 560 Ti died recently. Well, it's not completely dead but it's pretty much on the way out. Lots of weird multicoloured artifacts all over the place. The tough part is that I'm between jobs right now so I'm screwed for replacing it with a decent sidegrade or upgrade for a while. I found my oooold 1Gb Zotac GT220 that I used to use as a temporary replacement but as you can imagine it's pretty much killed all possibility of reasonably playing any major game released after 2010.

I've been looking at these 750 Ti's on Amazon for �100 and I can't help but think they can't be that bad, right? I know they're not going to be ridiculous and likely won't provide much of a jump up from the 560 Ti but am I making a mistake aiming for one of those? It's solely influenced by my being broke and hunting for a job so I don't want to be hasty even though all I want to do is get back to space trucking in Elite Dangerous.

I've tried everything to fix the 560 short of baking it and I haven't tried that because I don't have any thermal paste handy.

If you're really strapped for cash I would go used honestly, people are often unloading their 2-3 year-old tech for very low prices and you would get much more bang for your buck than buying a new low end card.

# ¿ Mar 9, 2016 20:32

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

Paul MaudDib posted:

Yeah, everyone should have a UPS. The one thing to note is that not all UPSs support PSUs with Active Power Factor correction (which is basically anything recent). They will probably work most of the time but may drop your PC if they switch while under a load with a low power factor.

Maybe if you live in a third world country, I can't remember the last time I had a power outage.

# ¿ Mar 31, 2016 20:59

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

DrDork posted:

Agreed that you don't save much if all you do is make cola and such, but RedBull/Monster/etc go for about $2/can. At $15 for a 60L refill, and $7 for a 9L syrup bottle, it works out to about $1/L, or 50c/16oz (Monster) or 25c/8oz (RedBull), so the savings are pretty significant.

You need to take a good hard look in your (oversized) mirror before buying a 9L syrup bottle. Can we please go back to talking about GPUs?

# ¿ Apr 3, 2016 08:33

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

SwissArmyDruid posted:

Wrong, if they earn your money, they earn your money. Brand loyalty, it is the stupid.

I agree brand loyalty is stupid, but monopoly is only beneficial for nvidia and if you look at how the GTX 970 and R9 390 are price/performance wise (that is, very much on par with arguably the AMD card being the better deal) and the real world sales numbers probably being 5 to 1 for the nvidia card it's a drat shame that nvidia has such a firm grip on consumers.

# ¿ Apr 15, 2016 13:13

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

Naffer posted:

Isn't the 970 vastly more power efficient than the 390? All things being equal why buy the card that uses 100W more power to do the same job?

With newer dx12 titles the 390 holds a comfortable lead, and the gap only seems to get bigger, power efficiency is a thing but considering the life expentancy of GPUs and the typical usage of most people, unless you game for 8 hours a day I don't really see the issue.

# ¿ Apr 15, 2016 13:53

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

I thought about using the EVGA step-up program and get a new GPU for Total Warhammer, but then I realized EVGA only makes nvidia cards and holy poo poo nvidia is getting hosed next gen.

# ¿ Apr 23, 2016 20:08

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

I'm surprised there is a wait on the rift with such a lukewarm reception on a very niche market.

# ¿ Apr 24, 2016 21:24

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

Gonkish posted:

And so Newegg begins tempting me: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150727&FM=1

An XFX 390X for $369 with a $30 mail-in rebate. Dear AMD, please release figures on the new cards soon. I am jonesing over here.

Since this thread is moving so slow and we have no new information I just want to ask what is the deal with americans and mail-in rebates? How does it work? You mail in some code by snail mail to save some money but spend money/time doing it? I fail to see who benefits from it.

# ¿ May 3, 2016 12:31

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

Smithereens posted:

you print out a page with proof of purchase and they send you a check or card for the rebate. honestly, wasting all of 5 minutes for 30 dollars is a p great deal for me, but you must make way more than that if you consider it too much effort so yeah you are right

I'm not a rich man, but I would rather everyone paid the same low price instead of making two prices hurting consumers , oh well never mind me and my scandinavian socialist ways.

# ¿ May 3, 2016 13:18

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

wipeout posted:

That poster is saying it seems like a weird inefficient way of doing things. Perhaps that's the point, maybe not everyone claims the money back.

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Why is it sold as food

Not from the part that eats that disgusting stuff, the worst we do is pickle our herring. I will tell you that our buttermilk koldsk�l with kammerjunkere is delicious this time of year.

# ¿ May 3, 2016 13:52

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

People who whine about prices on hardware in the EU really should consider all the consumer fuckery they do in the US. Countless times I've sent back items ordered online because of the no questions asked 14 day return policy law.

EDIT: Not to mention the minimum 2-year guarantee on everything.

snuff fucked around with this message at 16:16 on May 3, 2016

# ¿ May 3, 2016 16:12

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

THE DOG HOUSE posted:

? I'm sorry, the EU gets boned. 14 days is about half the expected normal return policy window lol. However, Newegg does have some lame policies on GPU's in particular so there is that. In any case, all those benefits are good to have guarnateed but is it really worth 75% markup on every single item? I dont understand EU pricing in the least

14 days is minimum required by law, what do you have in the US? also 75% might be a tad high?

# ¿ May 3, 2016 17:03

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

fozzy fosbourne posted:

How long does it usually take for the third party cards to come out after the reference card is released? Also, which of the third parties have had the best cards lately?

About the same time, MSI and Asus are safe bets, EVGA and Sapphire for green/red specific.

# ¿ May 5, 2016 14:55

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

Josh Lyman posted:

I'm not sure where to post this, but I thought booth babes weren't a thing anymore?

https://twitter.com/Brinno_Global/status/737583100796887040

Maybe not in the US but china

# ¿ May 31, 2016 12:09

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

Linx posted:

Do the designers of that card know it's 2016?

I like it, Sapphire always make these heavy solid looking cards none of that RGB dragon bullshit.

# ¿ Jun 11, 2016 19:56

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

I'm super impatient now, seriously considering using the EVGA step-up program. With the inflated 1070 prices (around 525� in Denmark, and out of stock most places until maybe end june) I'm thinking a GTX 970 and taking the gamble on better prices in three months time. Currently on a 4 year-old 660ti and barely getting by on a 1440p monitor.

Please tell me not to do this and wait for RX480.

# ¿ Jun 14, 2016 09:11

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

I caved in and bought a 980ti on discount. EVGA FTW 2006 meme edition. A nice card for sure but now I wonder if I should step up to a nice 1070 when they're more available or return it. Guess I have a few weeks to find out.

# ¿ Jun 16, 2016 14:00

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

SwissArmyDruid posted:

Alright, these 10-series cards supply issues are just getting ridiculous. We're what, two weeks in now, and NOBODY has loving any?

I'm starting to think that there are some kind of yield issues going on over at TSMC that nobody's talking about.

I just ordered a ASUS 1070FE and it's in the mail, guess I'm returning my 980ti...

# ¿ Jun 17, 2016 10:55

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

Mikojan posted:

Isn't the 980Ti a flat out better card though?

Mine is I would think, it's a EVGA FTW that boosts to 1400mhz. It's mostly for the much lower power consumption and the fact that there was 1 left in stock ready to ship. I should probably just step up to whatever EVGA SC/FTW there is.

# ¿ Jun 17, 2016 12:56

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

So if turns out that two rx480's in crossfire outperform a 1070, will any of you switch over?

I would never touch SLI/Crossfire, too much of a hassle.

# ¿ Jun 18, 2016 17:02

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

So I bought a EVGA 980ti FTW at the firesale, returned it when a Asus 1070FE was in stock last friday and recieved it saturday. Been really happy with it since it's way less power hungry/hot than the 980ti, performance was about the same.

But now my local store has a MSI 1070 Gaming X ready for pickup, gently caress my life am I really going to return this 1070FE?

# ¿ Jun 20, 2016 10:52

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

For people in the EU, the British pound is in free fall so you should be able to get a cheaper GPU.

# ¿ Jun 24, 2016 06:45

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

particle9 posted:

That's not how currency works. They are going to have to pay a lot more for their GPU's now.

This is the weirdest launch ever. I don't know what I even want to play on a 1080 but the fact I can't seem to get one makes me determined to get one.

Yes it is, if it drops 20% today then you save 20%, long term yes of course they Will adjust prices.

# ¿ Jun 24, 2016 07:30

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

Some really good deal for mainland europeans on OCUK, 10% off firesale before England sinks.

EDIT: Asus 980ti Strix for �359, pretty nice deal.

# ¿ Jun 30, 2016 14:59

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

WHAT A GOOD DOG posted:

The actual card's processor itself is pretty short but the case is long (almost 12 inches), and the fan is (supposedly) pretty great. The tradeoff is that it is so ugly I guess.

And really noisy.

# ¿ Jul 2, 2016 15:40

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

I don't understand why ATX is still the norm, optical drives? 3.5" drives? SLI/Crossfire? This is 2016 no one does that poo poo anymore.

# ¿ Jul 10, 2016 13:25

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

Combat Pretzel posted:

Seems like it'll still be a while before anyone on the European continent will be able to get their hands on custom 10x0 cards. Stock still seems non-existent, and that earthquake probably didn't help.

1070 Stock is plentiful, just checking komplett shows over 200 AIB 1070s in stock.

# ¿ Jul 10, 2016 18:27

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

track day bro! posted:

My 1070 FE gets pretty drat hot with even a mild overclock of +100 on the core, I was obviously spoiled by my old 970s cooler. I'm thinking about getting that NZXT bracket and an aio for it. How stupid an idea is this?

Pretty stupid, it won't overclock that much higher and even though the FE is pretty noisy an AIO with it's pump noise will be worse.

# ¿ Jul 13, 2016 08:04

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

TenementFunster posted:

could you give me a measurement for the height and width? I wanna know if it'll fit in my Razer Core

Let me Google that for you, 279x140x42mm.

# ¿ Jul 14, 2016 09:26

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

BurritoJustice posted:

Founder's edition GPUs consistently clock higher. 100MHz on average. Pretty amusing considering the amount of "founders just equals overpriced reference" shitfits.

My 1070FE does +150 on core and +450 on memory, I'm happy.

# ¿ Jul 15, 2016 06:24

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

I think it's funny that this gen the 10X0's from big manufacturers ASUS and Gigabyte have been quite bad, while currently the best AIBs are from Palit and Gainward.

# ¿ Jul 22, 2016 08:21

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

Phlegmish posted:

poo poo and I just bought an Asus Strix 1070. What's wrong with them?

Noisy at load (relative), bad heatsink with heatpipes not touching the core, expensive.

# ¿ Jul 22, 2016 15:13

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 13:08

snuff: Jul 16, 2003

wipeout posted:

The Palit game rock has a huge, quiet cooler as well.

It's the 1070 to get, cheap and silent.

# ¿ Jul 26, 2016 06:48

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