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Loving Life Partner
Apr 17, 2003

You want to file a WHAT!?

Any of you guys ever watch TheClaude on Twitch?

He's got a retardedly fast speedrun of FFT that is fun to watch (once he's done resetting the game 52 times to get the perfect starter party)

by battle 6 or 7 Ramza is a godlike calculator entity that can wack the objective/ most of the enemies on the screen with Holy, Bolt 4, or Flare or whatever right on turn 1, haha.

I think his best time right now is 4hrs15mins or something, and its a record.

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ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

What is the sound of one hand laying down the sickest beat?


Pyroxene Stigma posted:

Yeah you did, holy poo poo. One more push like that and you'll be at the final dungeon.

Probably not, I've hit the part of the game where good materia starts pouring in so there's a lot of AP grinding and a lot of Side-quests/extra bosses to cheese/beat.

Pyroxene Stigma
Nov 30, 2005

Hey,Larry!! Your alibi completely collapsed !!!



ZenMasterBullshit posted:

Probably not, I've hit the part of the game where good materia starts pouring in so there's a lot of AP grinding and a lot of Side-quests/extra bosses to cheese/beat.

I always save my AP grinding for the final dungeon actually, Movers are excellent combined with 2x/3x AP weapons.

Fryhtaning
Jul 21, 2010



Loving Life Partner posted:

He's got a retardedly fast speedrun of FFT that is fun to watch (once he's done resetting the game 52 times to get the perfect starter party)

Wait, what? FFT on PSone? I haven't played it in 10 years, but I've never seen a starting party that wasn't all Squires and other lowest-level jobs. Not to mention it takes hours to grind the levels for something like a Calculator. What am I missing?

Jibo
May 22, 2007



Pyroxene Stigma posted:

I always save my AP grinding for the final dungeon actually, Movers are excellent combined with 2x/3x AP weapons.

I always do this too, the other stuff in the area isn't bad either.

Loving Life Partner
Apr 17, 2003

You want to file a WHAT!?

Fryhtaning posted:

Wait, what? FFT on PSone? I haven't played it in 10 years, but I've never seen a starting party that wasn't all Squires and other lowest-level jobs. Not to mention it takes hours to grind the levels for something like a Calculator. What am I missing?

He uses the "JP scroll" glitch that dumps huge amounts of job points into certain classes when you manipulate the menu a certain way.

The starter characters basically have to have enough JP to be a wizard right after the first battle, he also likes to have females of a certain zodiac sign (this dude talks about zodiac compatibility like every other breath, haha).

So basically he turns the 2 chemists into wizards, JP scrolls, gets them bolt 3 and some other stuff, then he kills all the enemies and manipulates the last enemies position so that it just does "Wait" endlessly, and Ramza uses some Yell's and Accumulates to level all the required classes to unlock calculator.

During the second battle with Miluda, he grinds Calc up for all the formula skills, sheds the wizards (they crystallize and are dead to save him time to not "Wait" them) and then its off to the races.

THE AWESOME GHOST
Oct 21, 2005

THAT'S WHAT THE SONG WAS REALLY ABOUT


Loving Life Partner posted:

He uses the "JP scroll" glitch that dumps huge amounts of job points into certain classes when you manipulate the menu a certain way.

The starter characters basically have to have enough JP to be a wizard right after the first battle, he also likes to have females of a certain zodiac sign (this dude talks about zodiac compatibility like every other breath, haha).

So basically he turns the 2 chemists into wizards, JP scrolls, gets them bolt 3 and some other stuff, then he kills all the enemies and manipulates the last enemies position so that it just does "Wait" endlessly, and Ramza uses some Yell's and Accumulates to level all the required classes to unlock calculator.

During the second battle with Miluda, he grinds Calc up for all the formula skills, sheds the wizards (they crystallize and are dead to save him time to not "Wait" them) and then its off to the races.

Ah man that's super dissapointing that he uses JP Scroll, though I guess it is in the original game.

Loving Life Partner
Apr 17, 2003

You want to file a WHAT!?

I'm generally lukewarm toward glitches, but at a certain point there's no real way to run the game any faster without using it, and its doable with just the vanilla game, so yeah.

Aside from that, the number crunching that these FFT guys have done is nuts. Especially the positioning to get enemies to indefinitely "Wait"

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009



Loving Life Partner posted:

Any of you guys ever watch TheClaude on Twitch?

He's got a retardedly fast speedrun of FFT that is fun to watch (once he's done resetting the game 52 times to get the perfect starter party)

by battle 6 or 7 Ramza is a godlike calculator entity that can wack the objective/ most of the enemies on the screen with Holy, Bolt 4, or Flare or whatever right on turn 1, haha.

I think his best time right now is 4hrs15mins or something, and its a record.

Having a speed of 6 means that CT/4 hits everything on the map on the character's first turn. It's amazing even if it does completely trivialize the game.

Great Lakes Log
Jun 28, 2008

Here comes a special boy!


The further I get into FFVII, the more surprised I am at the sheer number of games they tried to cram into this thing. I just finished up with the Gold Saucer and looked up some info on Chocobo Racing only to realize that it's kind of like an entire game by itself.

Another cool bit was that marching mini-game with TV ratings but I couldn't figure out the timing for the life of me and had to walk away with nothing special. The games slight weirdness just does not let up.

SpazmasterX
Jul 13, 2006

MORE ROBUST THAN EVER BEFORE.


Great Lakes Log posted:

The further I get into FFVII, the more surprised I am at the sheer number of games they tried to cram into this thing. I just finished up with the Gold Saucer and looked up some info on Chocobo Racing only to realize that it's kind of like an entire game by itself.

Yeah, Chocobo racing is kind of a joke though because you can hold down the shoulder buttons to recover stamina a lot quicker and constantly boost so you'd pretty much have to lose a race on purpose.

Unless that prick on the black chocobo shows up. The game purposely makes his chocobo better than yours so you have to actually be careful and use your boost efficiently when he shows up.

The White Dragon
Nov 14, 2007

a dragon that is
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SpazmasterX posted:

Unless that prick on the black chocobo shows up. The game purposely makes his chocobo better than yours so you have to actually be careful and use your boost efficiently when he shows up.
Well the trick to that fucker is, because of his top speed formula, you can never choose the Long track and you gotta cut him off in the first half of the race. He still uses the same behavior as a regular aggressive jockey, though, so if you sprint the latter half, he won't be able to catch up to you on account of his sprint being scripted. He'll come in a "close" but guaranteed 2nd about three seconds after you do.

Xavier434
Dec 4, 2002



The White Dragon posted:

Well the trick to that fucker is, because of his top speed formula, you can never choose the Long track and you gotta cut him off in the first half of the race. He still uses the same behavior as a regular aggressive jockey, though, so if you sprint the latter half, he won't be able to catch up to you on account of his sprint being scripted. He'll come in a "close" but guaranteed 2nd about three seconds after you do.

This works consistently for me on everything except when I use a green chocobo (or maybe it was blue...I forgot). For some reason, their ability to sprint at the end half just doesn't work out as well. It might be my perception, but it also seems that certain chocobos will experience some sort of resistance while sprinting during that segment at the end which looks like some sort of space wind tunnel. That is what makes it hard for me. Otherwise, your strat works and I still use it while just hoping for the best.

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Saigyouji
Aug 26, 2011

Would you die for me please...?


Xavier434 posted:

This works consistently for me on everything except when I use a green chocobo (or maybe it was blue...I forgot). For some reason, their ability to sprint at the end half just doesn't work out as well. It might be my perception, but it also seems that certain chocobos will experience some sort of resistance while sprinting during that segment at the end which looks like some sort of space wind tunnel. That is what makes it hard for me. Otherwise, your strat works and I still use it while just hoping for the best.

Yeah, the space segment slows down most chocobos.

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