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Garuda is still an incredibly dumb boss and his only saving grace is that he's not behind an hour-long dungeon. I eventually just give in and try to cheese him with Geomancers. If the game is going to try to abuse RNG I might as well go for it myself.
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Vil posted:I do think you've got a point there. FF3 does date back to a slightly grindier age, and I think even the remake still carries echoes of that. You tend to end up at a much more reasonable difficulty curve, level-wise, if you make a loot run (fighting everything), walk back out (fighting everything), save, and then beeline the boss (probably still fighting everything). Plus if the boss does decide to be an rear end in a top hat and murder you anyway, at least you have less to redo that way. I've only done a few "loot runs" because normally I believe in living dangerously and one-shotting as many dungeons as possible. But Leviathan and Bahamut are tough bastards so I plundered their lairs, teleported out (no need to walk back!) and saved before taking them on. And that's pretty much a prerequisite for the Crystal Tower before fighting Xande for obvious reasons. I don't know if I'd be happy to have save points inserted in all the dungeons of III. It would definitely take away from the tension of "I've got one chance to get this right" but on the other hand, for more casual players/playthroughs, it would be ideal. I guess it ultimately doesn't matter and like you said, adjusting your playstyle and expectations is key to enjoying a game like III. Alternatively, even when I rewired my brain to play II, it was still a lovely battle system to navigate and remained a stone in my shoe during the entire game (including the thankfully short Soul of Rebirth sidequest). Waldean posted:They're the same game, just the PSP version doesn't have mail nonsense and also has a speed up + auto battle button. One legit criticism I have of the DS remake is Mognet. Which okay, I guess you had to be there, but in the Year of Our Lord 2014 (or hell, back in 2011 when I first played the game), nobody's doing that poo poo. I've resigned myself to probably never being able to fight the superboss and get the bonus Onion equipment, etc. Auto Battle was a godsend in IV DS for when you're fighting easy enemies or trying to score a rare item drop and I definitely would've appreciated it in III. Oh, well... I'm not at the point yet to where I'm going to buy a PSP just for slightly better ports of a few old Final Fantasy games.
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Ninjasaurus posted:One legit criticism I have of the DS remake is Mognet. Which okay, I guess you had to be there, but in the Year of Our Lord 2014 (or hell, back in 2011 when I first played the game), nobody's doing that poo poo. I've resigned myself to probably never being able to fight the superboss and get the bonus Onion equipment, etc. Plenty of people still do that stuff. In Japan. They're slowly starting to acknowledge that the rest of the world isn't Japan, and that wifi and wireless internet are a thing as well at least.
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Nov 21, 2014 03:36
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Evil Fluffy posted:Plenty of people still do that stuff. In Japan. They're slowly starting to acknowledge that the rest of the world isn't Japan, and that wifi and wireless internet are a thing as well at least. I did not know that. drat you Square Enix for thinking of your home market first!! 
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Nov 21, 2014 03:40
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Beef Waifu posted:Caius owns. I bet it was really fun for that voice actor to scream his head off about exploding time for days or weeks when they were making that game
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Nov 21, 2014 06:03
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As someone who sucks at Curtain Call's hardest difficulty, do you guys have any tips besides getting good? In particular, I was thinking of rolling with a party of people who just exist to cure me over and over if that would work. I accept I will never be GOOD good at the hardest difficulty, I just want to be able to clear every song.
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Nov 21, 2014 17:02
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Speaking of that dickhead Caius, I've run into a brick wall now that I've reached him in Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII Pretty Princess Dress-Up Simulator. Granted I'm only on day 6 but I've done all of the other main quests except the very end of the one in the desert, and a pretty sizeable chunk of the sidequests and canvas quests, so I thought I was pretty strong for this point in the game. I've tried looking up how to deal with him but I see a lot of contradictory advice. I'm certain that a strategy for him has been posted in this thread, would anyone happen to have it on hand to repost?
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Nov 21, 2014 21:48
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The only thing I like about Caius is his voice actor, mainly because the guy also did Grimoire Weiss from NIER and Kain from FF4DS/Dissidia and rocked both.
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Nov 21, 2014 22:05
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Mega64 posted:The only thing I like about Caius is his voice actor, mainly because the guy also did Grimoire Weiss from NIER and Kain from FF4DS/Dissidia and rocked both. Liam O'Brien is the best VA. Play Soul Nomad & The World Eaters if you want to hear him giving an amazing performance while also having to put on a ridiculous southern accent.
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Nov 21, 2014 22:10
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Endorph posted:Liam O'Brien is the best VA. Play Soul Nomad & The World Eaters if you want to hear him giving an amazing performance while also having to put on a ridiculous southern accent. Just play Soul Nomad anyway.
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Nov 21, 2014 22:21
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Also Valkyrie Profile 2 has him chewing all the scenery.
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Nov 21, 2014 23:51
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Volt Catfish posted:As someone who sucks at Curtain Call's hardest difficulty, do you guys have any tips besides getting good? Honestly, practicing will get you better. It also helps to have a good sense of rhythm, but once you can jive to the music it's all a matter of getting the pattern down. Start with FMS, as they're the easiest. Stuff like Main Theme of Final Fantasy VII, Main Theme (FFII), or almost any FMS from FF1 tp begin with have a fairly comfortable rhythm. If you just want to clear every song though, stack lots of Paeon and high Stamina users.
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Dr Snofeld posted:Speaking of that dickhead Caius, I've run into a brick wall now that I've reached him in Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII Pretty Princess Dress-Up Simulator. Granted I'm only on day 6 but I've done all of the other main quests except the very end of the one in the desert, and a pretty sizeable chunk of the sidequests and canvas quests, so I thought I was pretty strong for this point in the game. I've tried looking up how to deal with him but I see a lot of contradictory advice. I'm certain that a strategy for him has been posted in this thread, would anyone happen to have it on hand to repost? cyber jumpsuit with ghost hood means he'll never hit you with a physical. put mediguard to recover health. other two garbs magic based with debuffs.
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ApplesandOranges posted:Honestly, practicing will get you better. It also helps to have a good sense of rhythm, but once you can jive to the music it's all a matter of getting the pattern down. Also try both buttons and stylus. You may find yourself more comfortable with one input method over the other.
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Nov 22, 2014 20:08
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So I read a news blurb thta 1/3 of Square's game sales come from digital downloads. I wonder if that's the reason why they pushed for FF13 to be on PC.
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Nov 22, 2014 23:25
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Tae posted:So I read a news blurb thta 1/3 of Square's game sales come from digital downloads. I wonder if that's the reason why they pushed for FF13 to be on PC. Varance fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Nov 23, 2014 |
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Nov 23, 2014 01:07
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Pureauthor posted:Also Valkyrie Profile 2 has him chewing all the scenery. I loved Lezard's original VA but Liam O'Brien as Lezard was amazing and single-handedly made the game for me.
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Nov 23, 2014 01:32
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Tae posted:So I read a news blurb thta 1/3 of Square's game sales come from digital downloads. I wonder if that's the reason why they pushed for FF13 to be on PC. Considering digital distribution accounts for an increasing percentage of all game sales each year, I'd guess they're just going with the flow and experimenting with it on all platforms.
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Tae posted:So I read a news blurb thta 1/3 of Square's game sales come from digital downloads. I wonder if that's the reason why they pushed for FF13 to be on PC. The FFXIII trilogy on PC was a side effect of a their Dive-In streaming service. A PC port allows more efficient streaming by running multiple instances of the game on one machine. There doesn't seem to be much support for PC ports of Japanese games from SE Japan. Even when The Last Remnant arrived on PC with improved performance and features, it was unceremoniously released on Steam. It feels as though these games are coming due to their overseas branches and Eidos leadership convincing SE Japan of their viability.
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We might see SE offering more PC support for both current and future titles if the rest of the XIII trilogy sells well enough on Steam.
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Random question: I started playing ff7 on my tablet, and I just got to fort condor, where I've been fighting "nerosuferoths." I've always been a bit intrigued as to why this weak-assed random monster has a name so similar to Sephiroth. Anybody have any idea what's up with that?
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Sill playing FF7. Went to Wutai, completed to Pagoda and collected everyone's manuals for their respective final limit breaks up to Rocket Town/Shinra no.26 event. (Just missing Cid's and Cloud's) .Also I took on Emerald weapon and laughably got killed in the first three turns. My main guys (Cloud, Red and Yuffie) are at levels 52-54 but only have HP up to 4600-5000ish with three HP plus's attached and their physical attacks still only do around 1500 damage, whats the best way to improve this or a good place to grind? I'm now in space about to get the last huge materia. I'm still not really taken by the characters except Yuffie and maybe Cloud(?). Facepalm Ranger fucked around with this message at 06:14 on Nov 24, 2014 |
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Nov 24, 2014 05:59
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Piss Kingpin posted:Random question: I started playing ff7 on my tablet, and I just got to fort condor, where I've been fighting "nerosuferoths." I've always been a bit intrigued as to why this weak-assed random monster has a name so similar to Sephiroth. Anybody have any idea what's up with that?
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Facepalm Ranger posted:I looked into trying to improving my party's limit breaks but I have no idea how, do they just grow and evolve as you grind? Or do you have to use the Limit breaks a certain number of times? It depends. Unlocking the second tier of a limit level requires you to use the first-level version repeatedly (to learn Climhazzard, you have to use Blade Beam something like 8-12 times?), but unlocking a new limit level just requires racking up a bunch of kills with that character--varying as wildly as 70-200 kills.
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The White Dragon posted:It depends. Unlocking the second tier of a limit level requires you to use the first-level version repeatedly (to learn Climhazzard, you have to use Blade Beam something like 8-12 times?), but unlocking a new limit level just requires racking up a bunch of kills with that character--varying as wildly as 70-200 kills. I just Figured it out. I forgot I had to manually set the limits...
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Vanderdeath posted:I loved Lezard's original VA but Liam O'Brien as Lezard was amazing and single-handedly made the game for me. Lezard's original English VA is dead, sadly.  I like Liam O'Brian as Lezard but Koyasu utterly wrecks that role so everyone falls short of him. Endorph posted:Looking at its japanese name, it might be a mistranslation of 'Nosferatu.' I'm not sure what it is supposed to be. Nosferatu is "ノスフェラトゥ" (There's actually an enemy in FFXIII with the same name, as well as the Japanese name for the film.). The Final Fantasy VII one is ネロスフェロス which as near as I can tell exists only as the FFVII monster. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 06:34 on Nov 24, 2014 |
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I can't look at Koyasu in the same light after he voiced the Lumen Sage.
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Facepalm Ranger posted:Also I took on Emerald weapon and laughably got killed in the first three turns. My main guys (Cloud, Red and Yuffie) are at levels 52-54 but only have HP up to 4600-5000ish with three HP plus's attached and their physical attacks still only do around 1500 damage, whats the best way to improve this or a good place to grind? Emerald Weapon is dumb because his gimmick basically forces you to maxmimise prep with minimal materia. If you have too much of it equipped, he just oneshots you no matter what. But I remember him being weak to Demi which is kinda hilarious so there's that.
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Dragonatrix posted:Emerald Weapon is dumb because his gimmick basically forces you to maxmimise prep with minimal materia. If you have too much of it equipped, he just oneshots you no matter what. What's the gimmick? More materia you have attached the more damage it does? I got Yuffie's Ultimate weapon, the Conformer (which is kinda funny cause she's the only one in her town who didn't want to conform to being a tourist spot...heh) and she's doing 5000+ damage now and I'm grinding in the sunken Gelnika, some pretty cool monsters in here which can be dispatched easily enough with the right strategy. Cloud and Red still only do about 1500-2500 damage though... Another thing I remembered from VIII which was loving cool was that the monsters came from the moon, like there was the whole lunar cry thing which just helped make the world seem more whimsical and sensical at the same time, goddamn do I love VIII 
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Nov 24, 2014 08:13
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Facepalm Ranger posted:What's the gimmick? More materia you have attached the more damage it does? His ultimae attack, Aire Tam Storm, does 1111x(Number of Materia you have equipped). Reverse the first two words.
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Facepalm Ranger posted:What's the gimmick? More materia you have attached the more damage it does? Aire Tam Storm (what a clever name!) does 1111 damage for each materia you have equipped on a character, so more than 9 materia on a particular character is always instant death, and down from there.
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Facepalm Ranger posted:I got Yuffie's Ultimate weapon, the Conformer (which is kinda funny cause she's the only one in her town who didn't want to conform to being a tourist spot...heh) and she's doing 5000+ damage now and I'm grinding in the sunken Gelnika, some pretty cool monsters in here which can be dispatched easily enough with the right strategy. Cloud and Red still only do about 1500-2500 damage though... The thing about Emerald and Ruby weapon is that while you can fight them fairly, they themselves don't adhere to any mercy rules and can and will ruin even the best-laid plans with unlucky RNG. Grinding is of no help there: the only way you should be approaching the battle with either of them is with the best cheese strategies you can think of.
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Aire Tam Storm can be mitigated somewhat with Final Attack + Phoenix. You can avoid Aire Tam Storm altogether by killing more than 1 eye at once. And yes, Demi works against Emerald and will do 9999 damage with every cast (well, until his HP falls low enough) Seraphic Neoman fucked around with this message at 11:34 on Nov 24, 2014 |
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Nov 24, 2014 11:31
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Well I've just defeated Ultimate Weapon (It went down like a little bitch!) Got to Enemy Skill learn his Shadow Flare and my main three are at lv.65, have got all their ultimate weapons, 9999 HP and are doing above 6000+ damage per hit. I'm in the northern Cavern about to take down that dick Sephiroth for once and for all. It's been a fun day of grinding through FFVII. Along the way I've accidentally collected Barrett, Cid and Vincent's Ultimate weapons too. After attempting Ruby weapon and getting my rear end handed to me, I feel I've got enough power to take anything the final bosses throw at me. As much fun as it would be to grind up to lv99 to make sure I can beat the optional weapon bosses, there's just nowhere in VII that I can get enough exp to make grinding not so much of a chore and the fact I'm less than 40 hours into the game making it the quickest FF I've played... Onwards to Sephiroth/end game!! EDIT: just fought a Tonberry, gosh they're cute always EDIT: gently caress Magic Pots, I'm all out of Elixirs....Been fighting this one magic pot for 30 mins now. is this like a glitch or something? Facepalm Ranger fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Nov 24, 2014 |
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Nov 24, 2014 14:30
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Facepalm Ranger posted:EDIT: gently caress Magic Pots, I'm all out of Elixirs....Been fighting this one magic pot for 30 mins now. is this like a glitch or something? If I recall, you can only deal with them with elixirs or running away.
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Facepalm Ranger posted:Well I've just defeated Ultimate Weapon (It went down like a little bitch!) Got to Enemy Skill learn his Shadow Flare and my main three are at lv.65, have got all their ultimate weapons, 9999 HP and are doing above 6000+ damage per hit. I'm in the northern Cavern about to take down that dick Sephiroth for once and for all. It's been a fun day of grinding through FFVII. You don't really need to grind to fight the weapons. Against Emerald, just go into the fight with a whole bunch of megalixirs and x-potions and have each member of your party equiped with exactly 2 hp+ materia and NOTHING ELSE. Just survive until Aire Tam Storm and then watch him die in one fell swoop. For Ruby, well Ruby is tougher, if your doing chocobo breeding KOTR will be more than enough, as will Quadra Magic plus whatever. However if your fighting Ruby to shortcut through raising chocobos, just go into the battle with 2 characters already dead and the one living character having Final Attack and Phoenix, survive long enough to kill his tentacles and then let yourself get killed. You'll revive yourself and your whole party, and as long as you keep your healing up you shouldnt have a problem taking him down. I did it my first game at around level 68 so you have the right levels. Also if you have already killed emerald before fighting ruby, you will already have a master summon materia, giving you access to KOTR.
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Facepalm Ranger posted:EDIT: just fought a Tonberry, gosh they're cute always
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Madmarker posted:You don't really need to grind to fight the weapons. Against Emerald, just go into the fight with a whole bunch of megalixirs and x-potions and have each member of your party equiped with exactly 2 hp+ materia and NOTHING ELSE. Just survive until Aire Tam Storm and then watch him die in one fell swoop. That's sounds like pretty sound advice but, I'm already onto Safer Sephiroth .Luckily I used my "place-anywhere" save at the point before the point of no return. So if I want to I can go back after the boss fight/end game I can. The last Jenova went down in 6 normal attacks, Bizarro Sephiroth wasn't hard just kind of annoying cause the whole battle would kind of pause for a few seconds and nothing would happen, usually after switching sides or killing the head. Would Knights of the round basically obliterate Sephiroth? Cause I've found level little need for the summons through out the game (and all Final Fantasies by extension). I feel VII is quite broken in that without stupid amount of grinding you can only do decent amount of damage once you get the ultimate weapons, which I guess is rounded out by the fact the enemies are barely worth grinding for? Playing this for the first time to completion...its not bad but, it's not great, it feels so clunky, especially the movement controls and it almost feels slapped together in some places. Sorry VII lovers/fans I'm just not feeling it on that level, weirdly though I did enjoy Dirge of Cerebus...thanks for all the help/advice with the weapons though.  EDIT: Whelp! Safer-Sephiroth wasn't much of a challenge, I did like the fact he destroyed Jupiter, Pluto, Mercury and Venus just to try defeat a ninja, a large cat and a spidey haired 20-something year old. Seriously Regen/Haste feels like such a cheap tactic but it works way too well. With that, I've now completed all the main Playstation One installments. I guess it's time to finish X and X-2 next. I remember I got up to the Kalm Lands in X and up to where you meet the card themed woman for the second or third time in X-2... Facepalm Ranger fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Nov 24, 2014 |
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Facepalm Ranger posted:That's sounds like pretty sound advice but, I'm already onto Safer Sephiroth It depends on your level and if he has Wall up, but yes, a single cast or 2 should obliterate Sephiroth.
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I cared about Final Fantasy VII so little that I beat Sephiroth at level ~45 with a team of Barrett, Cloud and Tifa. No one believed me, though.
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