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Normal Adult Human
Feb 12, 2012

Nah.




Demon Hunter
Demon hunters are relentless vigilantes who execute their infernal targets with an arsenal of ranged weapons. They crouch and take aim far from danger, relying on bows, deadly traps, and projectiles to swiftly bring an end to the creatures that haunt their world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoTWRHheshw

Reasons to play the Demon Hunter
  • You liked Diablo 2's Assassin playstyle
  • You liked Diablo 2's Amazon playstyle
  • You like to blow poo poo up
  • You like running fast
  • You like high heels


Character Creation

As with all classes in Diablo 3 you can create both Male and Female characters.


Key Features

Ranged Weaponry Demon hunters are able to pepper the battlefield with scores of arrows and projectiles, or snipe distant enemies with a precision undreamt of by other heroes. Their arsenal includes longbows, grenades, hand-thrown weapons, and even dual-wielded crossbows.

Traps When hunting packs of demons or giant horrors much stronger than themselves, canny hunters come prepared. Luring enemies into mines, caltrops, or steel-jawed traps can soften them up, ensuring an easy – and guaranteed – kill.

Shadow Magic In order to better their chances against the forces of the Burning Hells, demon hunters embrace apocryphal magics. They can cloak themselves in darkness, confound others’ attacks, and slip between shadows to sneak up on their prey.

Battle Tactics Demon hunters carry the scars and burns of their pasts, and, despite the path they’ve chosen, they have no desire to suffer again. Hunters hold their enemies at range with hamstringing arrows, or slow them with entangling bolas, and they drop smoke bombs to escape when foes draw dangerously close.


Resources - Hatred/Discipline



The Demon Hunter uses a dual resource system, known as Hatred and Discipline. Hatred (the red portion of the orb) dictates the resource available for offensive attacks, and it regenerates quickly. Discipline determines resources available for the Demon Hunter's defensive maneuvers, and also some of her traps.


Equipment



Demon Hunters are a ranged character class and as such they utilize Bows, Crossbows, and Quivers. Certain abilities allow close-quarter combat, but these are limited. In addition, Demon Hunters gain access to a few exclusive types of equipment.

Cloaks Though demon hunters can shoulder heavy mail like any other warrior with an eye towards survival, their acrobatic movements incline them towards lighter gear. Cloaks provide chest protection without trumping mobility.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/cloak/

Hand Crossbows Single hand crossbows tend to be less damaging than comparable two-handed bows and crossbows. When demon hunters wield them as a pair, they can fill the air with a continuous salvo of arrows.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/hand-crossbow/

Quivers Not merely a container for arrows and bolts, the quiver often contains mystic properties. Some quivers provide easier access to projectiles and thus quicker rates of fire; others confer on their arrows the crackle of lightning or the sharpness and impact of thrown spears.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/quiver/


What stats do I need?

The Demon Hunter benefits from Dexterity, Attack Speed, +Damage, and Hatred/Discipline Regeneration.

Dexterity is one of the core attributes for characters in Diablo III. It governs the chance that a character will Dodge an attack and increases Demon Hunter's and Monk's damage dealt.

Each point of Dexterity gives:

+.1% to Dodge chance.
+1% to Demon Hunter's damage.
+1% to Monk's damage.


Abilities and Runes

The Demon Hunter has a vast array of abilities they can use both devastatingly destructive, and tactically defensive. Here are the types of abilities you will see with the Demon Hunter.

Active Abilities:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/class/demon-hunter/active/

Passive Abilities:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/class/demon-hunter/passive/


Demon Hunter Builds
The best part! Builds! With the rune system in Diablo 3 there are endless possibilities for builds for each class, and with your creative minds I have no doubt we will definitely find some unique and interesting builds! Feel free to post your build with a brief summary of what it accomplishes and I will add it to the list with appropriate accredation.

Grenadier by Luffles

This build utilizes a large amount of grenades and bombs for ultimate execution of blowing things up while maintaining a constant stream of Hatred generation. It has increased life gain from damage while using Shadow Power so there is no fear of getting close to a crowd to throw out some grenades or spike traps, as well as it utilizies Vault with a discipline reduction combined with Tactical Advantage to get away quickly should the poo poo hit the proverbial fan. All in all this is my prefered release build I will be testing out to see just how ridiculous being a Grenadier really is in Diablo 3.


Crithunter by John Colon
Take advantage of the demon hunter's innately high crit chance and crit damage with abilities such as grievous wounds impale and bait the trap in order to create Really Big loving Numbers. Also offers myriad defensive options.

Normal Adult Human fucked around with this message at May 15, 2012 around 21:12

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Captain Corduroy
Mar 30, 2007

We find the source of the problem, and we throw dragons at it.


RAWKET LAWNCHER build, aka the only build anyone who isn't a boring idiot would ever want

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...YdkQ!gch!Zbbcac

Migishu
Oct 22, 2005

I'll eat your fucking eyeballs if you're not careful



Captain Corduroy posted:

RAWKET LAWNCHER build, aka the only build anyone who isn't a boring idiot would ever want

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...YdkQ!gch!Zbbcac

Definitely trying this out, who doesn't like blowing poo poo up?

jscolon2.0
Jul 9, 2001

With great payroll, comes great disappointment.


Crit Hunter
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...Ydci!ceT!cccbZb
Tuned to proc crits often, and do extra effects/damage each time.

straw man
Jan 5, 2011

"You're a bigger liar than I am."


Hardcore all-defensive DH, goes great with public games.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...YXgd!adf!caZacZ

General Olloth
Oct 25, 2007

One Vision, One Purpose: The Technology of Peace!

jscolon2.0 posted:

Crit Hunter
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...Ydci!ceT!cccbZb
Tuned to proc crits often, and do extra effects/damage each time.

Almost the same exact build I'm thinking of running first.

Vargs
Mar 27, 2010

Blood in, blood out.



straw man posted:

Hardcore all-defensive DH, goes great with public games.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...YXgd!adf!caZacZ

You don't get anywhere near enough discipline for this to work, and your only AoE in a fairly AoE-focused game is entangling shot which hits a whole two targets for pitiful damage.

Normal Adult Human
Feb 12, 2012

Nah.


http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...XVjY!Xfe!YZZYYc

Here's a tentative build i've thought of for down the line. Basically the objective behind it is to generate as much discipline as possible to remain invisible, for as long as possible.

robot roll call
Mar 7, 2006

dance dance dance dance dance to the radio


Captain Corduroy posted:

RAWKET LAWNCHER build, aka the only build anyone who isn't a boring idiot would ever want

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...YdkQ!gch!Zbbcac

Wow, I hadn't really poked around the skills before so I thought there was like one rune that gave your rockets and that was that. Nope! Turrets, grenades, flaming backflips, what's not to love?

Cyberbob
Mar 29, 2006
Prepare for doom. doom. doooooom. doooooom.

I never ended up rolling DH in beta, but I'm really worried that the DH is going to be all about kiting mobs. Can someone calm my worries?

Captain Corduroy
Mar 30, 2007

We find the source of the problem, and we throw dragons at it.


Cyberbob posted:

I never ended up rolling DH in beta, but I'm really worried that the DH is going to be all about kiting mobs. Can someone calm my worries?

Uh well like the Wizard you certainly have the option to but if you'd rather just annihilate with zero finesse you can always give that a shot?? DH is built as a ranged class and doesn't get the innate 30% damage reduction the barb and monk get. It's not like you can just walk up to mobs and punch them.

straw man
Jan 5, 2011

"You're a bigger liar than I am."


Vargs posted:

You don't get anywhere near enough discipline for this to work, and your only AoE in a fairly AoE-focused game is entangling shot which hits a whole two targets for pitiful damage.

Updated with more AOE and disc restoration/reduction. I may or may not have gone overboard with the -cost runes.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...YXVd!adf!aYYYcZ

jscolon2.0
Jul 9, 2001

With great payroll, comes great disappointment.


Normal Adult Human posted:

Crithunter by John Colon
Take advantage of the demon hunter's innately high crit chance and crit damage with abilities such as grievous wounds impale and bait the trap in order to create Really Big loving Numbers. Also offers myriad defensive options.

Who is this John Colon, and what is this thread title a reference to, anyway?

con
Aug 5, 2004

There's always next year...


Hell yeah. Can't wait to play this class first.

Torka
Jan 5, 2008



jscolon2.0 posted:

what is this thread title a reference to, anyway?

One of the things Illidan the Demon Hunter hero unit in Warcraft 3 says when you click on him is "I'm blind not deaf".

Normal Adult Human
Feb 12, 2012

Nah.


Thank you dota, for doing a better job parsing warcraft 3 unit info than blizzard.com does.

http://www.playdota.com/heroes/soul...d1253725660-110

Daveski
Aug 5, 2003

God's own singer of dongs

Gonna shoot so many demons in the face, can't wait. There are a bunch of skills I'm looking forward to trying out, and I have no idea what kind of build I'm going for yet.

Man Loner
May 26, 2004

Your pronunciation of my name was incorrect, good cockfag

First class I'm going to play. Can't wait!

Will def keep checking this thread for advice.

Lakbay
Dec 14, 2006

My eye...MY EYE!!!


Here's my version of EXPLOSIONS! Critique please: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...ckjT!ghU!ZZbaZZ

Elysiume
Aug 13, 2009



I wish my single, lovely final wasn't this Thursday. Whatever, it's not like I'll be studying more than 3-4 hours. That leaves a nice 12 hours for a demon hunter.

S.T.C.A.
Feb 22, 2005
Crazy Arab

We'll know for sure in a few hours, but I'm 99% sure that if you aren't using Strafe, you're doing it wrong.

Ranged whirlwind, people. Ranged. Whirlwind. except not AOE but you shut your whore mouth

CJ
Jul 2, 2007

Here's a less utterly loathsome avatar you piece of shit.

I just hit level 10 and a passive ability says it gives me movespeed when i vault with evasive fire, what does that meant? When i dodge an attack?

S.T.C.A.
Feb 22, 2005
Crazy Arab

CJ posted:

I just hit level 10 and a passive ability says it gives me movespeed when i vault with evasive fire, what does that meant? When i dodge an attack?

You'll get an ability later that's literally called Evasive Fire. If the enemy is within X yards when you shoot with Evasive Fire, you'll vault backward 15 yards automatically (if you have 4 Discipline). Different effects with different runes.

That passive will also give you movespeed if you use the actual Vault ability.

Fireless Phoenix
May 3, 2012


Should have gone with a Fruity tag.
Anyway, I'll be trying this class out first... whenever my CE decides to arrive.

Normal Adult Human
Feb 12, 2012

Nah.


Don't even think about demon hunter builds until you've tried evasive fire. It was removed early in the beta but it was probably the most fun ability in the game.

Harold Ramis Drugs
Dec 6, 2010

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Do the split arrows from Shatter Shot (Hungering Arrow) also seek targets? Do they have a pierce chance?

Normal Adult Human
Feb 12, 2012

Nah.


Yes. I have no idea why you would ever get improved pierce when you can have a lower chance to create 3 arrows which together have a higher net chance of piercing again.

DNK
Sep 18, 2004



Normal Adult Human posted:

Yes. I have no idea why you would ever get improved pierce when you can have a lower chance to create 3 arrows which together have a higher net chance of piercing again.

Single target DPS

Unless the 3 split arrows will come back and potentially pierce through eachother again?

Normal Adult Human
Feb 12, 2012

Nah.



I am assuming that split arrows splits into 3 more guided arrows, which sounds reasonable. If they were dumbfire or had no pierce chance it would probably be stated as such.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

World-changing power, absolutely no side effects!

I believe the current numbers are "if the split arrows can split again it's by far the best damage rune. If they can't but can still pierce then it's on par with the other good runes (puncturing, devouring). Not sure where cinder arrow falls, I guess it depends on how dots stack if it bounces back to the same target.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

There is no future. There is no past. Do you see? Time is simultaneous, an intricately structured jewel that humans insist on viewing one edge at a time, when the whole design is visible in every facet.

quote:

Error 3006
While playing a Demon Hunter, if a shield is equipped to the Templar follower before encountering Jondar and hire the Templar, you will be disconnected from Battle.net. You may be unable to login, receiving the message "Error 3006". We are currently investigating this issue, and further updates can be found on the 1.0.1 Known Issues thread.

Just so everyone knows

Nemo2342
Nov 25, 2007

Friendship is *still* magic


Watching my shots pierce through an enemy, then circle back to hit him again has convinced me that I made the right choice picking DH as my first character.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

There is no future. There is no past. Do you see? Time is simultaneous, an intricately structured jewel that humans insist on viewing one edge at a time, when the whole design is visible in every facet.

Nemo2342 posted:

Watching my shots pierce through an enemy, then circle back to hit him again has convinced me that I made the right choice picking DH as my first character.

wait until you see one pierce the same enemy five times for a oneshot kill

ah forget it
Mar 19, 2009



Just got home from work and got to play a bit. Demon Hunter is a blast, my bowazon lives again after 6 years

redstormpopcorn
Jun 10, 2007
Aurora Master

It's like having a built-in Buriza from level one.

Mainwaring
Jun 22, 2007

Disco is not dead! Disco is LIFE!


What's the benefit to dual wielding hand crossbows as opposed to using one plus a quiver? From what I've seen so far dual wielding doesn't let you attack any faster.

Orgophlax
Aug 26, 2002




Did they lower the piercing chance on hungering arrow? Just seems like it's not piercing as much as I remember in the beta.

Jobert
May 21, 2007
Come On!

Decided to start a Demon Hunter for my first character. Only played for about 20 minutes though (stupid work!).

I never had a chance to use grenades in the beta, so I'm looking forward to trying out some explosives.

Orv
May 4, 2011

Precisely.


I grabbed Diablo 3 on a whim less than an hour before release, when I came to the realization that there wasn't anything (other than possibly T2) coming out this month I wanted, and I have yet to regret it. We'll see if that holds true.


I also don't regret going with Demon Hunter as my solo class (saving WD for friends parties), because godsdamn is it fun. I do regret one thing though.




The realization that a large percentage of my money is going to go towards dyes because I am a finicky motherfucker.




(Also where is my Van Helsing hat.)]

E: In actual DH talk, I'm not feeling much love for Smoke Screen, so I've swapped that back to my newly improved Caltrops with Hooked rune. Plus I just got bolas, so, explosions ahoy. I'm loving Vault like crazy though.



E2: Giant spiders. I'm done, I quit.


E3: Oh jesus, bolas VFX looks terrible. Is that just me?

Orv fucked around with this message at May 15, 2012 around 11:54

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Dzurlord
Nov 4, 2011


Mainwaring posted:

What's the benefit to dual wielding hand crossbows as opposed to using one plus a quiver? From what I've seen so far dual wielding doesn't let you attack any faster.

I thought you got a slight weapon speed improvement for dual wielding. Maybe like 10% or so?

I do agree, it's not worth doing to start - in the beta I kept using a bow and quiver until anywhere from level 7 to 10 or so, depending on when I scored a couple decent hand crossbows. Then I never looked back.

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