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Disargeria: May 5, 2010

The monk class is the best class and this is the thread all about them.

Patch 1.0.4 is out! Patch notes here: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6368188147#3

What are monks?

Monks are a melee class introduced in Diablo Hellfire I mean Diablo 3. They fight up close and in the fray, relying on their swift attacks and dodge to decimate enemies and survive. Their primary stat is Dexterity, which increases their damage, critical strike and dodge chance.

Monks fuel their best attacks with Spirit, a resource generated by using their signature spirit generator attacks. Monks blend heals, auras and other holy magics to support themselves and allies.

Monk do not like to use their weapons, so most of their attacks tend to leave their weapons stapped to their backs as they pummel targets with their fists and feet.

Why should you play one?
Do you like WINNING?
Are you a rude dude?
Do you want to kick Diablo in the titties with your foot?

Play a monk.

The monk story

"Monks of the Sahptev faith train their bodies and minds so that they may become the foremost holy warriors of the land of Ivgorod. Within the cloisters of the Patriarchs, the monks endure harsh trials both physical and spiritual, proving their devotion and attaining unmatched focus.

Daily ritualistic cleansings help monks purify their spirits and overcome the corruption that gnaws at the hearts of all men. In the pursuit of martial perfection, they also hone their legendary balance and clarity, skills that allow them to master both unarmed combat and a diverse array of weapons.

After a lifetime of preparation, anointed monks are permitted to leave their monasteries' halls to serve the decrees of the Patriarchs. The emblem on their foreheads marks them as survivors, achievers, and pillars of their society.

Monks embody the will of Ivgorod�s one thousand and one gods in every step and every strike."

quote:

NewcastleBrown explains dual wielding:

While the system seems complex at first glance it is actually really simple.
Dual-wielding averages the dps of your two weapons and adds 15%.
Two-Hand is just straight dps.
One-hand plus shield is just straight dps.

Applying that can take a tiny bit of math, but it is still simple:
If the weapons you're dual wielding have a DPS discrepancy greater than 15% you will do more damage with a shield than with using the second weapon.
If your two-hander DPS is 15% higher than the average of your one-handers you'll do more damage with the two-hander.

Also factor in that your shield can carry a large chunk of stats. Those can quickly bridge that 15% DPS gap going from dual-wield to sword/board.

The only real complexity comes from skills and is slightly different for skills with and without cooldowns. This part I'm still not 100% clear on, but I think you should mostly focus on just raising that DPS number until you really understand how different attack speeds and base damages interact with the various spells you use. As I understand it, a non-cooldown spell scales best on attack speed (which is the only thing limiting you from casting it again ASAP). Cooldowned spells also have faster cast animations with higher attack speed, but they do more damage per cast with higher base damage.

quote:

All defensive stats work against all damage

Armor = damage reduction, includes magic
Resistances cover all damage types, including physical

Strength = +armor
Intellect = +all resistances
Dexterity = +dodge chance, everything and anything can be dodged including spells

The exception is, of course, +poison resist only increases that specific resistance

Wei's solo farming gearing guide! posted:

I thought I'd make a short guide on how to gear up a monk for solo farming. I want to emphasise that this is a high dps build for overgearing and farming an earlier act efficiently, though it's a good Inferno/A1 starter as well. A heavy focus on crit seems to me like the most efficient way to increase our damage. This is for a cookie cutter build with only the mantra as a spirit spender. I'll first talk about stats, then do a slot-by-slot breakdown.

If you run your numbers through a DPS spreadsheet, you'll find that with a crit/crit heavy build, crit chance is by far the best DPS stat. For reference, at 39% crit chance and +387% crit damage, a point of crit chance is worth 35 DEX, a point of attack speed is worth 17 DEX, and a point of crit damage is 3.5 DEX. A point of average +damage is 2 DEX, and a point of weapon DPS is 1.8 DEX. This guide is to help you get high DPS numbers while maintaining good defensive stats.

There aren't many slots which can have crit chance on them, so you pretty much want crit chance wherever possible. Get the bulk of your defensive stats from slots which can't have crit. One thing I see some posters do is not pay enough attention to crit damage, but it's a very important stat which really isn't too hard to get. Attack speed is nice, but you really need just enough for full mantra uptime.

The other stats you'll want are obviously DEX, VIT and resists. At high levels of gear, life steal is a cheap stat which gives decent levels of sustain. Health globes are another great source of healing, but not viable against elites until you get to about 50k DPS. Pickup radius becomes a very important stat at this stage.

Unless you're very wealthy or lucky, you won't be able to get many items with 5 to 6 desirable mods on them. If you know how to gear efficiently for what gold you have, you can still get by with 3-4 good mods in their relevant slots. I'll do a slot-by-slot breakdown, starting with the big DPS slots first. Having only your single resist in these slots is very affordable, and good enough.

Weapon(s): This is where you need to get the bulk of your crit damage on. You should dual wield, because that's potentially +400% crit damage. If you plug your numbers into a DPS spreadsheet, you'll find that weapon DPS isn't really that big a deal (1 weapon DPS:1.8 DEX:0.5 crit dmg, at 39%/+387% crit). I'll demonstrate with a picture:

Despite the spear having 196 DEX and 74% crit damage over the fist, while being a whole 210 DPS lower, it gives me 3804 more damage. I normally still use the fist because it's good to have a mainhand with a higher damage range for Sweeping Winds/Cyclone. Pick up a good critdmg/socket offhand before more people realise that the big number isn't really where it's at. If you don't mind spreadsheets, put your numbers in and they'll be really useful for comparing weapons before you buy them. This is my crappy 626 DPS offhand:

Yes, I am sitting at 50k DPS with it. A 1000 DPS weapon with no stats wouldn't come close to it. I see a lot of advice for people stuck on progression to pick up a 'good weapon', but that might be the worst place to spend your money if you don't know what to look for. Those two weapons can be had for 2-5mil, less if you're willing to browse a little because they get underpriced frequently. A weapon with over 900DPS and other desirable mods starts at 10mil, and in many (market priced) cases will give you a lower DPS per gold invested than an armor upgrade.

Life steal is also good once you're past the 30k sheet DPS mark, and it only gets better from there. You can use LoH till then, but don't overpay for it (I just joined the 0 LoH club myself ). Jewelry is a much better slot for that. I haven't used a shield in forever, but if you insist on using one you'll want crit chance on it. The other important stat is block chance.

Crit damage (with a socket)> Lifesteal or DEX

Head: Probably the most annoying slot to shop for. Crit chance goes up to 6% on ilvl63 helms, 4.5% on ilvl62. You can get a socket on it, but I find it really drives up the price of the item. The prices on helms with less than 5% crit are noticeably lower. There are a few other useful mods you can get on helms. Skill modifiers are good, but extremely rare. Spirit regen and LpSS are nice too, but I find these unimportant.

Crit chance > DEX > socket > resists > VIT

Gloves: Most important DPS armor slot. If you can't get resists here, that's alright. Fortunately, this market is flooded because of crafting. Also a slot with high natural DEX rolls (200 single/300 double). If you're starting out, 150 DEX/8 crit chance/your resist can be had for pretty cheap.

Ilvl62 (crafted) gloves can't actually get higher than 32 crit damage, so I don't think it's that important here. For my character, 1 point of attack speed is worth about 5 crit damage, so that's a more worthwhile stat to go after. It's also good to note that crit/crit gloves are more expensive than ASI/crit chance gloves, because most people aren't spergy spreadsheet types.

Crit chance > ASI > DEX > Crit damage > resists/VIT

Bracers: Not too exciting, but you can get up to 6% crit on ilvl63 ones, and up to 4.5% on lower. Just as with helms, there's a big step up in prices when you go from 4.5 to 5% crit. There's also melee/ranged reduction, which can be nice.

Crit chance > DEX > resists > VIT > Damage reduction

Amulets and rings: Jewelry is stupidly expensive but can roll pretty much any stat. The prices for not-so-good stuff are crashing, so it's not too hard to get a DEX/crit thing for cheap. One way to itemize with jewelry is to use them as slots to make up for areas where you're lacking, but with how expensive they are what I usually do is to build my gear around them. There are some really nice (overpriced) legendaries. Ouroboros seems to be the only reasonably priced one. Blackthorne's Badge is alright, but doesn't naturally have crit chance. Skull Grasp is really nice, but expensive. I suggest spending the gold elsewhere if you're on a tight budget.

Crit chance should always be at the top of your list. I would get LoH here if you feel you need it, because your weapons should be dedicated to other cooler mods. Crit damage is great and comparatively cheaper (on jewelry) than ASI/crit chance, if you need more of that stat. Put crit chance and crit damage on the same item however, and you're looking at a huge price increase for not much benefit. +min/max damage is good (and usually ignored as a trash stat). The +24-48 or whatever on my amulet is equivalent to about 72 DEX in damage.

One thing to note is that rings don't have a very big stat budget and can only get 4.5% crit or 35% critdmg, and fairly low primary stat rolls. Attack speed is a good mod to look for, as the budget for that stat is not affected. Resists are good too, because the max on rings is only about 10 lower than in other slots.

Crit chance > whatever you're lacking

Shoulders and waist: Nothing special here, so get double resists and DEX. VIT and life% are nice, if you can afford those too. This is also a good slot to get pickup radius or +health from globes on. Please don't get String of Ears, you shouldn't be dying to melee damage.

DEX > resists > VIT/%life

Chest: This slot can roll more VIT (200/300) than usual, so look for it here if you're lacking. You can get damage reduction from melee/ranged/elites in this slot, which can be really nice. If you have the time to browse, look on the Auction House for chests with empty sockets on them. Chances are they're underpriced. This is because most buyers are lazy and search 150/150 dex/vit or whatever, so they end up missing the 80/120 with double resists and 3 empty sockets.

Legs: Same as chest, except that it can't have damage reduction mods. Empty socket thing and extra VIT applies too.

DEX == VIT > resists > Damage reduction

Feet: Some people don't mind not having movement speed, but I've gotten too attached to it. I need to chase those loving A3 runners down man. This slot can roll high DEX (200 single 300 double), so be sure to look for that.

Movespeed > DEX > resists > VIT

Hope this helps! The bolded priorities I gave are just a rough guideline for you to get the most bang for your buck, but you should obviously be gearing according to where your stats are lacking.

DPS calculator:
http://d3dps.net/

EH calculator:
http://rubensayshi.github.com/d3-ehp-calculator/#intro

Weapon comparison calculator:
http://d3.muri.se/comparison/

Life on Hit spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...d=0&output=html

Monk Preview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...d&v=eT2UTj7p-aE

Monk Announcement
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cJfxhBgq8c

Jay Wilson tells you how to play a monk
http://www.ign.com/videos/2012/05/1...iiis-monk-class

Monk Skill Calculator
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk

All monk skills
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/class/monk/active/

All monk passives
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/class/monk/passive/

All monk skills, passives and runes in order unlocked
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/class/monk/progression

Disargeria fucked around with this message at May 14, 2013 around 19:50

# ? May 15, 2012 01:23

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Disargeria: May 5, 2010

It's highly recommended that you install this to view builds, skills and items quickly
http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/132780

= Quickening bug: Extreme amounts of spirit generated by combining Fists of Thunder's Quickening rune and Sweeping Wind.

TO USE MOST OF THESE BUILDS YOU MUST ENABLE ELECTIVE MODE
THIS REMOVES ALL OF THE LIMITATIONS ON SELECTING ABILITIES

Killing too fast build - End of Life Guy
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...XicQ!YdX!YabaZa

Probably overly defensive build - Blackclaw
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...TXgQ!ZVY!aabZaa

Explosive defense build - BobFromMarketing
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...TigQ!XdY!YZaZZb

Strong defensive build - GatewayOfLastResort
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...XgjQ!XcV!aYbabb

I love the water ally build - Okita
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...XgjQ!Xce!aZbaaZ

Hell Builds:

3 monks 1 barb and no cups build - Mr. Stanfield

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...XiRQ!UXY!YZbZYb
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...Xigk!ZUY!YYbZYZ
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...Xigh!XUY!YYbZYa

Triple generator build - Olrox
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...bfXQ!YUg!ccccbc

Shield + buff spam build - J3ng4
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...XigQ!YbU!YabYYb

Aoe/Exploding Palm build - Paint.NET Autist
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...fgTk!bYV!ZZZYYY

Ranged snare build - westcoaster
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...dTgQ!YcU!ccbbaZ

Tank and heals build - True Evil Bob
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...Qigj!YXU!YYbYZb

Heavy spirit gen build - CodfishCartographer
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...ZXiQ!YXc!YZYYYb

Inferno Builds

Act 1 group (Barbarian, Wizard, 2 Monks)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...YgXQ!YXf!ZYZaZb

Act 1 solo
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...gYXk!VUX!cbaaZZ

Act 1 solo farming
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...gdfQ!ZbV!YZabab

Act 1
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...XiTh!ZYU!ZYbZbZ
alternate:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...Xifh!ZYU!ZYbZYc

Act 1
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...QiXg!UZX!YZbZba

Act 1 solo farming
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...QYXg!UYX!aaZcba

Act 1
46k HP
54% armor
62% resists
37% dodge
906 life on hit
4 spirit/second
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...gfiQ!UdX!YYYYYb

Act 1
20k hp
8k dps
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...XgjQ!dYZ!YYbacb

Act 1
1h+shield
~60% armor
~72% resist
~42% dodge
6k dps
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...XgTh!ZXU!ZZcaYa

Act 1
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...Xgik!ZXU!ccbaZc

Act 1
1138 dex
606 vit
4108 armor
8569 dps
31% dodge
594 resist
29k hp
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...gijQ!XYU!ZbYZcc

Act 1
1330 dex
686 vit
4391 armor
10930 dps
33% dodge
184 resist
29k hp
206 life on hit
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...Xgjh!UTX!ccbaba

Act 1
1181 dex
563 vit
3691 armor
17441 dps
31% dodge
46 resist
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...XgYk!YXV!ZZbYcZ

Act 1
30k hp
5000 armor
480 resist
15k dps with Breath of Heaven buff
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...Xijh!ZXU!ZZbcca

Act 1
60% armor
60% resist
35k health
9.5k dps
1200 life on hit
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...VTXk!eUY!bcZaYa

Act 1 (skeleton king)
1249 dex
617 vit
5199 armor
8366 dps
32% dodge
96 resist
21k hp
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...gXTh!UXY!bcYbba

Act 1
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...XTgQ!YXU!ZbbZYc

Act 1
30k life
55% armor
43% all resists
10k dps
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...gXTk!YXU!cYacca

Act 1
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...XjTQ!UXd!Zabbcc

Act 1
1195 dex
1281 vit
3472 armor
8733 dps
31% dodge
50 resist
45k hp
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...gYjh!ZXU!abacba

Act 1
1262 dex
1444 vit
4574 armor
10192 dps
32% dodge
576 resist
55k hp
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...XYgQ!TZX!cZbccc

Act 1
1h+shield
409 resist
8000 dps
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...Xjkg!UZX!ZcbbZa

Act 1
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...gXjQ!YXU!ZZabcc

Act 1
Dual wielding
1215 dex
758 vit
32% dodge
611 resist
32k life
1008 life on hit
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...XgYQ!ZUX!ZZZYac

Act 1
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...YXjh!UXZ!cacbca

Act 1 group (DH+Wizard)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...YXRk!UVd!cacbca

Act 1
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...XgYh!XUY!Zbbaca

Act 1
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...eXjYh!XU!Zbbbca

Act 1
34k hp
410 resists
10k dps
2.4k armour
40% dodge.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...Xgjk!VdU!ccbaba

Act 2 solo
~500 resists
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...Xigh!ZYX!ZbbYaa

Act 2
1h+shield
526 resist
6200 armor
39k hp
43% dodge
1307 dex
875 vit
17000 dps
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...XgYh!ZXU!ZcbYca

Act 2
Dual wielding
41k hp
1918 life on hit
670 dex
990 vit
5239 dps
6276 armor
687 resist
44% dodge
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...gfih!dXU!ZaYaZa

Act 2 solo
45k~ HP, 18k~ DPS with blazing wrath, 470~ resists, 65%~ damage reduction from armor 50%~ dodge with mantra 1200 dex 1150 vit
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...XYgh!UXZ!ZZbYaa

Act 2 on farm
1349 dex
658 vit
6952 armor
12655 dps
43% dodge
762 resist
29k life
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...gXYh!XYU!cZabca

Act 2
dual weilding
14k dps
35k hp
600 resist
60% resist
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...gejk!UYZ!aZacba

Act 2
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...YXgj!ZUX!Zccbab

Act 2
1111 dex
805 vit
5262 armor
14251 dps
31% dodge
964 resist
33k hp
1422 life on hit
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...YXgi!ZUX!aaabaZ

Act 2
787 resists
4k armor
12k dps
30% dodge
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...YXgT!VUX!Zccbab

Act 3 solo
1123 dex
661 vit
3831 armor
9523 dps
31% dodge
715 resist
29k hp
679 life on hit
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...Xgjh!YUZ!ccbaba
with demon hunter partner:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...Xgfh!YUX!ccbaZa

Act 4 solo
dual wielding
1359 dex
1220 vit
4123 armor
19511 dps
33% dodge
846 resist
54k hp
1805 life on hit
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...YXgi!ZUX!aaabYZ

Disargeria fucked around with this message at Jun 4, 2012 around 00:50

# ? May 15, 2012 01:24

signalnoise: Mar 7, 2008; i'm your lady machine
cybernetic supreme
sweet as peaches and cream
i'm your lady machine

Intentional thread tag?

# ? May 15, 2012 01:24

Disargeria: May 5, 2010

Nope, I'm just 2 for 2 with monk thread tags. =/

I deserve it for having it all written up in a notepad.

Disargeria fucked around with this message at May 15, 2012 around 01:39

# ? May 15, 2012 01:26

Lord Binky: Jun 4, 2006; cheesy anime pizza undresses you with pepperoni eyes

Seven-sided strike is pretty much the coolest ability ever. Also the male monk is a badass.

# ? May 15, 2012 01:26

Papercut: Aug 24, 2005; What this power is I cannot say; all I know is that it exists and it becomes available only when a man is in that state of mind in which he knows exactly what he wants and is fully determined not to quit until he finds it.

Someone was playing a monk on one of the streams earlier and it looked really fun. I'm gonna start with one because I like combos.

# ? May 15, 2012 01:28

I said come in!: Jun 22, 2004

Papercut posted:

Someone was playing a monk on one of the streams earlier and it looked really fun. I'm gonna start with one because I like combos.

I'm watching this asian stream; http://www.twitch.tv/bahagamecrazy which is following a monk.

# ? May 15, 2012 01:29

dexefiend: Apr 25, 2003; who is your daddy and what does he do?

Also gonna play a monk! I am excited about dropping giant holy bells on demon heads.

# ? May 15, 2012 01:30

NoEyedSquareGuy: Mar 16, 2009; Just because Liquor's dead, doesn't mean you can just roll this bitch all over town with "The Freedoms."

I'm going to be preying on the opening to make sure nobody names their monk Tony Shalhoub before me.

Hyphens will have to do I guess.
vvvv

NoEyedSquareGuy fucked around with this message at May 15, 2012 around 01:35

# ? May 15, 2012 01:30

Colonel Pancreas: Jun 17, 2004

NoEyedSquareGuy posted:

I'm going to be preying on the opening to make sure nobody names their monk Tony Shalhoub before me.

Good thing there are no unique names! Or spaces!

# ? May 15, 2012 01:32

melon farmer: Oct 28, 2009; My boy says he can eat fifty eggs, he can eat fifty eggs!

Definitely going monk first and only running one spirit generator, gonna wear out that LMB being a rude ~~dude~~ ~~chick~~ I don't even know.

# ? May 15, 2012 01:32

signalnoise: Mar 7, 2008; i'm your lady machine
cybernetic supreme
sweet as peaches and cream
i'm your lady machine

I'm just waiting to see hundred hand slap or whatever for myself so I can see if I can truly make a Kenshiro build. Anyone who doesn't make a 50 hits a second build at some point ain't no monk player.

# ? May 15, 2012 01:32

Graviija: Apr 26, 2008; Implied, Lisa...or implode?

The instant I saw the monk in action, there was no god drat doubt what my first class would be. Like, all these people have been waffling as release approached. "Well I was gonna play the wizard, but then I switched to barbarian, but then demon hunter looked cool..."

No. gently caress that poo poo. Monk for first character. Monk for life.

# ? May 15, 2012 01:33

Frankston: Jul 27, 2010

Monk is hella good fun.

# ? May 15, 2012 01:35

Xachariah: Jul 26, 2004

Graviija posted:

The instant I saw the monk in action, there was no god drat doubt what my first class would be. Like, all these people have been waffling as release approached. "Well I was gonna play the wizard, but then I switched to barbarian, but then demon hunter looked cool..."

No. gently caress that poo poo. Monk for first character. Monk for life.

This. I've played a female monk to level 11 so far and I'm in love.

Teleport punching into groups of monsters, super scorpion kick or whatever the AoE is, pin-balling between the scattered remnants then destroying the poo poo out of an elite mob.

gently caress any other class. Monk is where it's at. The only issue I have with the class is that it's too loving fast for my mind to comprehend. My old man brain and fingers are left in a daze as I'm still preparing to kill a monster I killed 5 monsters ago. It is glorious.

# ? May 15, 2012 01:42

Happy Noodle Boy: Jul 3, 2002; Don't fuckle with Shuckle(s)

Like that other Shuckle, but different.

Xachariah posted:

gently caress any other class. Monk is where it's at. The only issue I have with the class is that it's too loving fast for my mind to comprehend. My old man brain and fingers are left in a daze as I'm still preparing to kill a monster I killed 5 monsters ago. It is glorious.

Yeah this is the class I want to play.

# ? May 15, 2012 01:44

Fimbulvinter: Nov 6, 2008; by elpintogrande

NoEyedSquareGuy posted:

I'm going to be preying on the opening to make sure nobody names their monk Tony Shalhoub before me.

Hyphens will have to do I guess.
vvvv

I'm naming mine "Adrian".

# ? May 15, 2012 01:44

Disargeria: May 5, 2010

Xachariah posted:

This. I've played a female monk to level 11 so far and I'm in love.

Teleport punching into groups of monsters, super scorpion kick or whatever the AoE is, pin-balling between the scattered remnants then destroying the poo poo out of an elite mob.

gently caress any other class. Monk is where it's at. The only issue I have with the class is that it's too loving fast for my mind to comprehend. My old man brain and fingers are left in a daze as I'm still preparing to kill a monster I killed 5 monsters ago. It is glorious.

Monks are all about speed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...d&v=zxfvPhPSxL8

# ? May 15, 2012 01:45

LegoMan: Mar 17, 2002; "When you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite"

signalnoise posted:

Intentional thread tag?

People are in such a hurry to be the OP POSTER they don't bother to look at the tag

# ? May 15, 2012 01:47

Mo_Steel: Mar 7, 2008; "We don't need a toilet. The pile of clothes in the hallway has worked fine for us for years, and it will continue to work."

I'm browsing through the skills now, but is there one that lets you sucker punch enemies by goading them?

Basically this:

e: vvv No idea. It doesn't have to be UFC though, if I can find the right skill for Monk it can be soccer or rugby style too.

Mo_Steel fucked around with this message at May 15, 2012 around 01:59

# ? May 15, 2012 01:50

Happy Noodle Boy: Jul 3, 2002; Don't fuckle with Shuckle(s)

Like that other Shuckle, but different.

Hahahaha holy poo poo is there a youtube of that gif?

# ? May 15, 2012 01:51

Cryin Burnigan: Aug 8, 2006; ~*~THE SECRET OF THE MAGICAL CRYSTALS IS THAT I'M FUCKING TERRIBLE~*~

Disargeria posted:

It's highly recommended that you install this to view builds, skills and items quickly
http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/132780

Monk Builds:

My Name is Max Explosions
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...XVTe!bVd!YbaccZ
Large AoE attacks, combined with chainsploding Exploding Palm. Extremely flashy but weak on defense and single target.

All-purpose Build
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...gdTh!dUX!aaaYaa
Damage, AoE, defenses and mobility, it's all here.

Your first build has no mantra which is gonna suck since they are amazing.

Here's what I've got so far

Dodge Tank Build
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk#bigRfh!dXW!ZZaYYa

Aoe/Exploding Palm build
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk#UVfgTk!bYV!ZZZYYY

I am super hyped

# ? May 15, 2012 01:52

Disargeria: May 5, 2010

Mo_Steel posted:

I'm browsing through the skills now, but is there one that lets you sucker punch enemies by goading them?

No but you can make a really passive build like this:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...gSRZ!ZXV!ZZZaaZ

Paint.NET Autist posted:

Your first build has no mantra which is gonna suck since they are amazing.

Mantras aren't more explosions.

# ? May 15, 2012 01:56

Mo_Steel: Mar 7, 2008; "We don't need a toilet. The pile of clothes in the hallway has worked fine for us for years, and it will continue to work."

Disargeria posted:

No but you can make a really passive build like this:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculat...gSRZ!ZXV!ZZZaaZ

Nice; anyone know off hand if damage returned is calculated based on incoming damage from the monster or based on the final amount you take? Basically, if you have a ton of damage reduction is it going to reduce the damage you reflect back as well?

# ? May 15, 2012 01:58

Blunt Force Trauma: Mar 16, 2008; No one gives a fuck about shit.
So fuck your shit.
We fuck shit up,
Cause shit's fucked anyway.
Shit is run in to the ground.

I don't wanna think about it,
I just wanna get down.

I've wanted to play a Monk since the Blizzcon where the Monk was first revealed.

Then I played a Wizard in the beta and said "gently caress all these other classes, I'm going to be a goddamn Wizard."

Now my friend decided that he wants to play and is going to play a Wizard so I'm back to The Real Master Class, Monk.

# ? May 15, 2012 02:00

Disargeria: May 5, 2010

Mo_Steel posted:

Nice; anyone know off hand if damage returned is calculated based on incoming damage from the monster or based on the final amount you take? Basically, if you have a ton of damage reduction is it going to reduce the damage you reflect back as well?

It's based on the final amount. Damage reduction and dodge basically slow the fight down, because you'd do the same amount of damage eventually.

Thorns damage is simply based on getting hit.

# ? May 15, 2012 02:01

I said come in!: Jun 22, 2004

I think this should be a legit monk move;

# ? May 15, 2012 02:22

Cryin Burnigan: Aug 8, 2006; ~*~THE SECRET OF THE MAGICAL CRYSTALS IS THAT I'M FUCKING TERRIBLE~*~

Disargeria posted:

Monks are all about speed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...d&v=zxfvPhPSxL8

I watched this because it was mentioned in the comments and god drat does it look fun, I'm really interested in what it would look like against a boss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpc9LSzTZ_A

# ? May 15, 2012 02:22

Bryne: Feb 13, 2008; Cut around the fight, Giuseppe!

This is the best class thread with the best graphic.

# ? May 15, 2012 02:23

Benjamin Black: Sep 8, 2008; Now wasn't that delicious?

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

Hahahaha holy poo poo is there a youtube of that gif?

Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8saDZwNy0dQ

And here's a funny article that talks about it: http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-top...moments-in-mma/

tl;dr: He wasn't faking, he got punched in the liver. When his opponent dropped his guard to finish him off he took his shot and knocked him out.

Benjamin Black fucked around with this message at May 15, 2012 around 02:40

# ? May 15, 2012 02:36

Nibble: Dec 28, 2003; if we don't, remember me

There is no doubt that I will play a Monk tomorrow. My only decision is male Monk or female Monk. Do I want a manly beard that means business, or a slightly more attractive face/voice? At least, I heard the male Monk voice can be iffy at times.

# ? May 15, 2012 02:37

Tarq: Apr 25, 2008

So here is a question... what weapons to use?

I'm tempted to build something like a DAOC Friar using a staff just for the ~~awesomeness~~ retardedness of it.

Are there any pros/cons to weapon choice?

# ? May 15, 2012 03:12

randombattle: Oct 16, 2008; This hand of mine shines and roars! It's bright cry tells me to grasp victory!

gently caress yeah Monks I can't wait to punch demons in faces and have a manly beard. I've never played a diablo game before but punching dudes and making them explode is something I am all for.

Not only can you punch a dude and make him explode but be invincible? So awesome.

# ? May 15, 2012 03:17

Frankston: Jul 27, 2010

Holy poo poo my wrist and forearm are aching to hell.

I have a staff right now that kinda sucks, I was having 10x more fun with dual-wielding super fast demolition. 2h is so cumbersome.

# ? May 15, 2012 03:21

Metrohunter: Sep 30, 2009; ~~DON'T TECH~~you teched

Tarq posted:

So here is a question... what weapons to use?

I'm tempted to build something like a DAOC Friar using a staff just for the ~~awesomeness~~ retardedness of it.

Are there any pros/cons to weapon choice?

As far as I can tell the major difference is one of your passive skills which increases spirit generation by 25% if you're wielding a 2hander or dodge chance by 15% for dual wielding.

# ? May 15, 2012 03:23

Dr. VooDoo: May 4, 2006; O, for a muse of fire

I know it used to be that any of the Monk's skills would combo into each other but I heard it was changed. Do they still combo with each other, just the secondary effects play on each hit, or do I gotta use the same attack three times in a row to do a combo?

# ? May 15, 2012 03:37

Disargeria: May 5, 2010

This is a wonderful thread tag

Dr. VooDoo posted:

I know it used to be that any of the Monk's skills would combo into each other but I heard it was changed. Do they still combo with each other, just the secondary effects play on each hit, or do I gotta use the same attack three times in a row to do a combo?

They're not really combos in the traditional sense.

Every Spirit Generator attack has 3 stages, and switching between them doesn't reset the stage.

For example, Fists of Thunder has

Punch1
Punch2
Blast

and Deadly Reach has

LongPunch
Slam
Kick

So if you have both of these abilities equipped, you can use

Punch1
Slam
Blast

or any other variation like that. There isn't anything else that really combos together, outside of Jay Wilson's definition of "Well you can Exploding Palm someone and kill them for more explosions".

Disargeria fucked around with this message at May 15, 2012 around 04:46

# ? May 15, 2012 04:41

Axialbloom: Jul 7, 2011; Teach Me! Mordin-sensei!

Xachariah posted:

This. I've played a female monk to level 11 so far and I'm in love.

Teleport punching into groups of monsters, super scorpion kick or whatever the AoE is, pin-balling between the scattered remnants then destroying the poo poo out of an elite mob.

gently caress any other class. Monk is where it's at. The only issue I have with the class is that it's too loving fast for my mind to comprehend. My old man brain and fingers are left in a daze as I'm still preparing to kill a monster I killed 5 monsters ago. It is glorious.

Monk was the only class I levelled to 13 after every beta patch wipe. gently caress yeah I am jonesing to punch the skellingtons out of things. A shame that the Bounding Light rune got moved all the way to a lvl 52 unlock. I really enjoyed that one. Guess it's just another thing to look forward to. Most looked forward to? Seven Sided Strike.

Frankston posted:

I have a staff right now that kinda sucks, I was having 10x more fun with dual-wielding super fast demolition. 2h is so cumbersome.

After using 2 fast 1-handers I could never use a staff. Even if I was hitting harder it just felt like punching underwater. Monk is all about punching at the speed of light.

Axialbloom fucked around with this message at May 15, 2012 around 05:29

# ? May 15, 2012 05:26

Eddain: May 6, 2007

I hope rare/legendary daibos will spawn with unique mods in order to make them more useful than dual-wielding two high DPS weapons instead.

# ? May 15, 2012 06:30

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# ? May 19, 2013 23:47

PLANES CURE TOWERS: Jun 1, 2006; NO HUDDLES

NO RINGS
BUT WE GOT SWAG

10 minutes until Monk time

# ? May 15, 2012 06:49

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