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ymgve
Jan 2, 2004




kerwyn posted:

Quest progress and waypoints save, so you can jump back to where you left off.

Maps randomize every time you start a game. Events as well, so you won't always see the same stuff twice in a row.

So basically, I have to keep the game running, or I lose all the map exploration I've done? That's retarded.

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Bobnumerotres
Jun 20, 2010


Can anyone post a /spoiler'd list of the bosses and act locations so far?

All I know is King Leoric, the butcher, and Magda is somewhere in there.


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So basically, I have to keep the game running, or I lose all the map exploration I've done? That's retarded.

Dude this isn't skyrim. If you quit before you find a proper waypoint there's still checkpoints so you don't lose any progress. The maps are randomized for your benefit. You can re-run areas and literally find new quests you never saw before.

TheQat
Oct 19, 2003



Bobnumerotres posted:

Can anyone post a /spoiler'd list of the bosses and act locations so far?

All I know is King Leoric, the butcher, and Magda is somewhere in there.

Here's the big baddies http://www.diablofans.com/topic/410...nd-information/ don't click that poo poo if you don't want to know all the act bosses

rikatix
Aug 24, 2010


maybe this has been answered a million times, here goes:

can you not leave the cathedral once you enter it? id like to see but dont see a way out but to dig deeper!

thanks

ymgve
Jan 2, 2004




Bobnumerotres posted:

Can anyone post a /spoiler'd list of the bosses and act locations so far?

All I know is King Leoric, the butcher, and Magda is somewhere in there.


Dude this isn't skyrim. If you quit before you find a proper waypoint there's still checkpoints so you don't lose any progress. The maps are randomized for your benefit. You can re-run areas and literally find new quests you never saw before.

I am fine with randomization when I start a new game. I don't want the game world to change when I shut down the computer for the night!

Tunahead
Mar 26, 2010


All this talk of people only getting drops unsuitable for the class they're playing is further validation for my strategy of playing through each act with every class before proceeding to the next one.

Five
Jan 6, 2009



ymgve posted:

I am fine with randomization when I start a new game. I don't want the game world to change when I shut down the computer for the night!

I'm going to guess you didn't play either of the other Diablos. Also, once you beat the game on normal, you're going to be playing the game by rerunning entire areas to try to get more loot, just to prepare yourself for the other difficulties. The fact that things reset adds a lot of replayability to the game.

Mental Midget
Apr 18, 2005

"Oh, no, I feel great. I just ordered some more vitamins. I see you were exercising. So was I. I taped '20 Minute Workout' and played it back at high speed so it only took ten minutes and I got a really good workout. You wanna come in and have a mineral water or something?"

Bobnumerotres posted:

Dude this isn't skyrim. If you quit before you find a proper waypoint there's still checkpoints so you don't lose any progress. The maps are randomized for your benefit. You can re-run areas and literally find new quests you never saw before.

I understand and agree with you. However the issue here is that if you get involuntarily DC'd, there's no "grace period" where you can login back in standing in the same place where you were when you got DC'd. It's kind of like if you get DC'd in an instance in WoW. If you're able to log back in in a reasonable amount of time you start right where you left off.

As it stands right now, if you get DC'd then *poof* everything is instantly gone and you're back at the last checkpoint or town or whatever.

Who knows, it's probably intended and I'm probably not used to it because I haven't played an ARPG in like 5 years, but regardless it's still very jarring.

298298
Aug 14, 2011

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Going from completely coasting through Act 1 to not even being able to survive 2 mobs at once in Act 2 is ridiculous.

Cactus
Jun 24, 2006


Do the bonuses on items you equip onto your companion apply e.g. more XP or % chance to find magic items? Are companions even worth having? I keep the templar around for now because hey why not, he has healing spells, but he seems pretty useless when it comes to killing things, and do they take xp off you for shared kills?

Bobnumerotres
Jun 20, 2010


Does anyone else think that the demon hunter is kind of crippled? He's the only class that needs to use a specific kind of weapon.

A Wizard or a Monk can equip god drat bows and greatswords and they'll still do spells/kung-fu based off the weapon damage, the same applies to the other classes.

But with the demon hunter they went "Yeah you need a bow or crossbow. Oh you found an awesome sword? Too bad."

Secret Sweater
Oct 17, 2005
dup

ymgve posted:

I am fine with randomization when I start a new game. I don't want the game world to change when I shut down the computer for the night!

SUCKS BREH.

Flashing Twelve
Mar 20, 2007



You're right, that is a pain, and it sucks. The problem isn't with the randomisation though, it's with there not being a grace period to rejoin a singleplayer game before it disappears from the server.

Saint Darwin
Jun 19, 2011

The cat problem in the park is Malthusian in scope.

ymgve posted:

So basically, I have to keep the game running, or I lose all the map exploration I've done? That's retarded.

Maybe Diablo games aren't for you.

Krakkles
May 5, 2003

You are stupid and wrong




SHUT

THE

FUCK

UP




If I bought the digital standard edition, then buy the CE, can I transfer the license later? (sell the standard cd key and get the CE loot, and hopefully keep the characters I made from the standard edition?)

Xachariah
Jul 26, 2004



ymgve posted:

I am fine with randomization when I start a new game. I don't want the game world to change when I shut down the computer for the night!

Why not? Surely it makes it more fun? You could get new events or quests generated that you haven't seen before and everything is less predictable. New monsters who drop new weapons. New configurations of scenery.

There is literally no downside that I can imagine.

ymgve
Jan 2, 2004




Saint Darwin posted:

Maybe Diablo games aren't for you.

As far as I remember, it worked fine in the single player parts of D1 and D2. I expected it to work the same way for D3.

Secret Sweater
Oct 17, 2005
dup

I too wish to log in to see a barren wasteland devoid of anything to kill.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

THE STRONGESTER!!


D3 is running like rear end on my laptop while outdoors, but indoors it's fine.

I've already updated my video driver. Any suggestions on how to fix this besides lowering visual settings or buying a new computer?

ymgve
Jan 2, 2004




Secret Sweater posted:

I too wish to log in to see a barren wasteland devoid of anything to kill.

Then I would start a new game, since if there's nothing to kill I would necessarily have completed the game.

Krakkles
May 5, 2003

You are stupid and wrong




SHUT

THE

FUCK

UP




SirPhoebos posted:

D3 is running like rear end on my laptop while outdoors, but indoors it's fine.

I've already updated my video driver. Any suggestions on how to fix this besides lowering visual settings or buying a new computer?

Why would you play diablo outside?

Flashing Twelve
Mar 20, 2007



ymgve posted:

Then I would start a new game, since if there's nothing to kill I would necessarily have completed the game.

You want something fundamentally different from what the Diablo series, and really video games in general, are all about.

Five
Jan 6, 2009



ymgve posted:

Then I would start a new game, since if there's nothing to kill I would necessarily have completed the game.

You play this game series very differently from almost everyone else who plays it, I guess? I know that I never ended up touching 'single player' Diablo II, even though I often played alone. Being able to go back and do parts I liked over for fun and profit was my favorite part of playing on Battle.net

Torka
Jan 5, 2008



SirPhoebos posted:

D3 is running like rear end on my laptop while outdoors, but indoors it's fine.

I've already updated my video driver. Any suggestions on how to fix this besides lowering visual settings or buying a new computer?

I'm guessing you have it plugged in when you're inside? Most gaming laptops greatly reduce the performance of the GPU when it's on battery because it's so power-hungry, I'm not sure if there's a way to fix that, but even if there is you'd be lucky if you got even half an hour out of the battery with everything running at full blast.

FileNotFound
Jul 17, 2005

YOU ARE ALL A VOCAL MINORITY

BioWare's pubic hair might be a tangled mess that a jungle machete couldn't hack through, but do you think that stops me from wrapping my lips around its meaty dick?

*MMMMMM*

Their semen makes me stupid!


Bobnumerotres posted:

Does anyone else think that the demon hunter is kind of crippled? He's the only class that needs to use a specific kind of weapon.

A Wizard or a Monk can equip god drat bows and greatswords and they'll still do spells/kung-fu based off the weapon damage, the same applies to the other classes.

But with the demon hunter they went "Yeah you need a bow or crossbow. Oh you found an awesome sword? Too bad."
I get what you are saying, but it's only a problem very early in the game.

Past the early levels, many classes have a weapon that they gravitate towards.
Barbarians - Mighty Weapons
Wizards - Wands
Monks - Daibo/Fist Weapons
WD - Ceremonial Knives

Besides with smithing it's not all that hard to get a specific weapon type.

Anyway a big part of D2 was trading items that were not useful to you for items that were.

TheQat
Oct 19, 2003



Assuming you mean outdoors in-game, no, there's no way to fix it. I take a 20 FPS hit on a system that's way, way above the game reqs when outdoors compared to indoors.

Dross
Sep 26, 2006

Every night he puts his hot dogs in the trees so the pigeons can't get them.


ymgve posted:

Then I would start a new game, since if there's nothing to kill I would necessarily have completed the game.

I don't think you get Diablo.

DFu4ever
Oct 4, 2002



I am pretty thrilled that with my old 2.7gHz Core 2 Duo, 4gb ram, and an 8800GTS the game runs smooth as silk with settings turned up to high at 1920x1080. I was expecting some chop, but so far the only chopping is that which is being delivered by my monk in furious fashion.

My monk could totally kick Mike Tyson's rear end.

Slackerish
Jan 1, 2007

Hail Boognish


298298 posted:

Going from completely coasting through Act 1 to not even being able to survive 2 mobs at once in Act 2 is ridiculous.

That same thing happened to me in Diablo 2, I'm not surprised

Bear Retrieval Unit
Nov 5, 2009


Finally finished normal difficulty, the game's awesome. Though from the second half of act 3 and onward the it felt a bit too easy. I mean I know it's just normal difficulty but my monk was dropping bosses as if the were champions, sometimes even faster. I don't know if it's because I got lucky with drops/crafting or just because the difficulty was toned down so everyone could at least finish normal.

Can anyone explain how artisans leveling work? I maxed them as far as I could with gold, but to level them further I need Pages of Training. Are those drops or are they unlocked through progression?

misguided rage
Jun 15, 2010

God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title

Pretty sure they're drops from the higher difficulties.

MANIFEST DESTINY
Apr 24, 2009

Well, there was this movie I seen one time

ymgve posted:

Then I would start a new game, since if there's nothing to kill I would necessarily have completed the game.


There's never really more than 15 minutes TOPS of stuff in between waypoints and checkpoints. Basically you don't understand the fundamentals of Diablo.

Flashing Twelve
Mar 20, 2007



The only real stinkyhole enemies in Act 2 are those loving wasps. I fought a champion pack of those with Vortex enchantment, took me three lives to take them down because they'll send out their mini-wasps then Vortex you right through them for 400+ damage. God forbid if you get caught up in a pack and you can't even see the little fuckers coming at you.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

I am a strawman spewing, non listening, logic challenged douchebag supreme trolling TFR. Ignore me.

Has anyone else had large framerate drops when switching to fullscreen windowed? I didn't change any settings at all other than that, and going from fullscreen windowed to just fullscreen made for an enormous performance difference - it was the difference between a choppy slideshow and smooth action with no problems.

Guerrand
Mar 12, 2006

RING RING RING RING RING RING

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

Has anyone else had large framerate drops when switching to fullscreen windowed? I didn't change any settings at all other than that, and going from fullscreen windowed to just fullscreen made for an enormous performance difference - it was the difference between a choppy slideshow and smooth action with no problems.
Yes, but I've found that's not unique to D3; some games are fine with FS-windowed, others not.

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 16, 2004



ymgve posted:

Then I would start a new game, since if there's nothing to kill I would necessarily have completed the game.

Why does this actually matter? What does filling out the map have any baring on anything? Why do you care so much about your ~*exploration progress*~ in a game that isn't about exploration whatsoever? Honestly man, you're complaining about stuff that isn't even inherent to the genre Diablo exists in. This is akin to complaining that Doom didn't have enough loot.

Elysiume
Aug 13, 2009



Does anyone know how to get dye?

Atheist Sunglasses
Jul 26, 2003
And now the only married news team in the tri-county area: Jan & Wayne Skylar with special news correspondant Dr. Steve Brule

TheQat posted:

Have you been checking the northernmost merchant in New Tristram? Dude sells some pretty good bows from time to time. Picked up a 19dps hand crossbow from him at level 11

Huh? Does merchant inventory change over time/levels?

298298
Aug 14, 2011

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Grinded awhile doing butcher runs for Act 2, instantly regretted it, gently caress you blizzard for the harshest loving orange terrain imaginable.

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THE BAR
Oct 20, 2011

You know what might look better on your nose?


Be honest with me, here.. Are the areas just as painfully linear AFTER the Skeleton King? That's my main problem while playing the beta, it felt like I was running through Torchlight's funnel tunnels all over again.

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