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HGH posted:The comments on that are confusing me. When was "Myon" ever said in an official work outside of PCB's Extra? That's the thing, it's not. Just like Patchy's "Mukyuu!", it's one of those things that's said only once but then latched onto by fans to become a catchphrase for the character (see also: "Nyoro~n" for Tsuruya from Haruhi Suzumiya).
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| # ? May 17, 2012 19:54 |
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In their defense it sounds really funny and is fun to say and write. edit: the original way she used it in PCB's omake.txt doesn't even seem that strange to me when I read it, it's just saying "myon na tokoro ni ite" instead of "myou na tokoro ni ite", they sound almost identical when you read them. It could have even just been a typo. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at May 17, 2012 around 20:18 |
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I think this was one of the first pieces of Touhou music, as well as fan videos, that I saw. I had no idea who any of these characters were except Flandre but damned if it wasn't interesting. The video's nice, too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2UdXE9dS9E
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| # ? May 17, 2012 20:16 |
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SirPhoebos posted:Someone posted a link in the old thread for converting youtube vids into MP3s. Can someone repost it? Also, Mamange supremacy  . Gensoukoumuten is also acceptable (Danbooru links, etc etc).
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Captain Invictus posted:I think this was one of the first pieces of Touhou music, as well as fan videos, that I saw. I had no idea who any of these characters were except Flandre but damned if it wasn't interesting. The video's nice, too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa4sySGu0js Unzan = Tom Jones. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at May 17, 2012 around 23:25 |
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CommissarMega posted:have you at least given Lucid Dream a try? I think it's their best work ever. Ah, yeah. Lucid Dream and Lucent Wish both are on my MP3 player, I just didn't remember it. quote:I just don't get why people would want to listen to dBu when the originals are right there. It's easier to get dBu CDs, especially if ZUN waits another six years between albums. 
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Copycat Zero posted:That's the thing, it's not. Just like Patchy's "Mukyuu!", it's one of those things that's said only once but then latched onto by fans to become a catchphrase for the character (see also: "Nyoro~n" for Tsuruya from Haruhi Suzumiya). Though, over there, it's Youmu herself, while we use it for her mushroom half. ...Also, what DO they call her ghost half? quote:tom jones god loving drat it
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JackMackerel posted:god loving drat it edit: as far as I know the Japanese don't have any cute nicknames for Youmu's ghost half. It's slightly shorter to say in Japanese anyway though, "hanrei". Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at May 17, 2012 around 21:56 |
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HGH posted:I shouldn't tick all the boxes in the settings of a site I can't understand; I should look up a list of tags and memorize them; I should never, ever trust an artist not to do something heinous, no matter how much I like them; I should try actually translating a site for once. On the other hand though isn't it kinda nice about them that they are willing to not take themselves too seriously and basically make slash fanart of their own art? And not be like some western artists who are like "If someone draws porn of my characters I will never draw again!" or legally go after people who do, just me or does copyright seem to be handled a little differently over in Japan or is it the same and people in North America are just that much more litigious? On a semi-related note of clicking on boxes on a site you don't understand... Anyone else really have a hard time using NicoNico to find stuff? I can only ever find the same 5 songs over and over.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Wait are you...are you suggesting that a Touhou music video featuring Tom Jones could be a BAD thing? No, now I can't get the loving image that Unzan is the reincarnation of Tom Jones out of my loving HEAD
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Raenir Salazar posted:just me or does copyright seem to be handled a little differently over in Japan or is it the same and people in North America are just that much more litigious? Short of grabbing the little reference book I have and quoting it word-for-word, I can't explain it particularly well, but the short answer is "the former". With the way the copyright law is over there, the creators are able to turn a blind eye to doujin works without compromising their copyright claim, although there have been instances (particularly Nintendo) of copyright holders going after doujin circles who, in the holder's opinion, go too far.
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HGH posted:I shouldn't tick all the boxes in the settings of a site I can't understand; I should look up a list of tags and memorize them; I should never, ever trust an artist not to do something heinous, no matter how much I like them; I should try actually translating a site for once. Pixiv has an official english translation for non-user content, you should turn that on.
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Copycat Zero posted:Short of grabbing the little reference book I have and quoting it word-for-word, I can't explain it particularly well, but the short answer is "the former". With the way the copyright law is over there, the creators are able to turn a blind eye to doujin works without compromising their copyright claim, although there have been instances (particularly Nintendo) of copyright holders going after doujin circles who, in the holder's opinion, go too far.
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JackMackerel posted:No, now I can't get the loving image that Unzan is the reincarnation of Tom Jones out of my loving HEAD Again, is that such a bad thing? Was that video by the same dude(s) who madeMoriya Step? Certainly seems like it.
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| # ? May 17, 2012 23:21 |
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CommissarMega posted:Again, is that such a bad thing? Was that video by the same dude(s) who madeMoriya Step? Certainly seems like it. edit: this guy Kimosan has some great stuff 
Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at May 17, 2012 around 23:58 |
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Samurai Sanders posted:I talked to a lawyer friend about it once, he said that, and he also said something else: in America, Zun's list of directions for fan work creators would be analogous to a license agreement, but its wording is far too lose to stand up to legal scrutiny. It would need to be rewritten by a lawyer. Not just that but there would be a million other things Zun would need a lawyer for if he were to operate in America, and I can understand if he doesn't want to take that step. This may be true in other countries too but my friend was only talking about American IP law, which is apparently extremely strict about creator exclusivity compared to other countries, including Japan. Somewhat related question not that I should assume binding legally accurate advice or whatever but if my artisan family wanted to make Touhou themed ceramic figurines to sell at flea markets would we need to take any special to avoid any legal hang ups?
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JackMackerel posted:I really wish I could find a translation on that Liz Triangle song. One of the best songs I've herd from that group. (And I keep thinking of the male chorus as sin sacks. Wonder who they were.) Posting this in response, boilerplate NSFW warning: http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show...ted_pupils-craz Also this discussion has made me hate the American legal/copyright system more and more. It seems like such a headache that I'm suprised more people don't just say "to hell with this."
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did this for me. I'm really sorry.
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Raenir Salazar posted:Somewhat related question not that I should assume binding legally accurate advice or whatever but if my artisan family wanted to make Touhou themed ceramic figurines to sell at flea markets would we need to take any special to avoid any legal hang ups? wtfuguyz posted:Also this discussion has made me hate the American legal/copyright system more and more. It seems like such a headache that I'm suprised more people don't just say "to hell with this." Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at May 18, 2012 around 01:08 |
| # ? May 18, 2012 01:05 |
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Eh, mostly so that I feel good and have a clean concience and stuff.quote:Posting this in response, boilerplate NSFW warning: Cheerfully psychotic Yuuka is always welcome and awesome in my establishment! 
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Samurai Sanders posted:Just in a purely practical sense, how would Zun ever know? In an legal sense, it seems in line with his fan work guidelines to me. Yeah I know, but couldn't Creative Commons give you some leeway?
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wtfuguyz posted:Also this discussion has made me hate the American legal/copyright system more and more. It seems like such a headache that I'm suprised more people don't just say "to hell with this." Look at it this way: The Japanese system inherently holds that the license holder will maintain all rights no matter what. It is not possible for those rights to dilute or otherwise fall into public domain. They can at any time, regardless of the environment, and regardless of the pertinence or accuracy, have their license enforced. This means that while ZUN can look away if he wants to, he can just as easily down the line declare that some [thing] he created that has fallen into mainstream culture is his alone, and the fact that he ignored it as part of his fan culture doesn't mean he doesn't have the rights to smack it down for those he doesn't. It gives him complete reign over his "IP", even in extremely unreasonable circumstances. On the other hand, the American/European copyright system holds that a clearly-owned right belongs to the owner so long as it's effectively part of their ownership in terms of "we've made this very clearly legally as being ours". Creative Commons and certain other licensing allows low-level artistry to still exist, but the distinction is made that companies can still stamp things that they feel infringe on their ownership. So not too different from as it is in Japan. But the thing with the enforcement is that terms, ideas, and even characters can pass into public domain if they become sufficiently "changed" from their original meaning. That is to say, they become a property of the populace versus a property of the license holder, due to the non-association innately with the original property. Sort of like how, say, "Googling" has entered vernaculur as a substitute for it. And the "dark" side of this for someone like ZUN, then, is that if someone can establish a product-line that somehow "mimics" or otherwise infringes on what may or may not be his rights, it's possible that it can establish precedent and his initial objections may be lost based on that precedence. Sort of like how Elder Scrolls sued Scrolls because it's possible that then it could be used as "precedent" for other people to try calling a game, say, the Oldest Scrolls and compete with them, on the basis that hey, they didn't object when people called stuff scrolls before when it has fantasy stuff, clearly they're not the only ones on the block using the scrolls thing!! hyuck hyuck. Thus the fan-games would establish precedence for someone that ZUN doesn't like for whatever reason capitalizing off of it: they can't specifically steal ZUN's products (ie they can't just release Touhou #whatever since the code is his), but ZUN would have trouble "stopping" them from say, selling a comic where Reimu calls ZUN a butthead and it offends ZUN incredibly or whatever. ZUN's issue with doing a western release is idiotic, since it's pretty easy for him to not worry about loss of his copyright on the simple basis that he doesn't really care that much about it in the first place. That is to say, he's not going to lose the rights specifically to his Touhou game, or even his characters. The only thing he's at risk for is people "capitalizing" off of Touhou by making things based off of it. He can still sell specifically his games to people, and have people sell fan games. The only thing at risk is that he could potentially have someone more mainstream use this as precadence and make an EA Sports Presents: NFL Reimu 2014 and them going "WELL ALL THESE OTHER [INDIES] MADE [BLANK] GAMES AND YOU DIDN'T STOP THEM, SO SURELY THAT MEANS YOU HAVE LET IT LAPSE OUT OF YOUR SPECIFIC OWNERSHIP???" But ZUN doesn't market poo poo over here anyways, and thus isn't losing any profit and lacks any control on how things are handled over here. Plus the fact that that would never happen anyway. So he's basically saying "Rather than spreading the community elsewhere and potentially have others try to capitalize on it (without specifically limiting the community or infringing on his own capitalization), I'd rather just not spread it at all and.  " Meanwhile, Touhou is being merchandised like crazy in Japan and the only thing ZUN attempts to stop is an anime so people don't forget he's the source or whatever.It's in essence him taking his ball and going home. So don't worry about that poo poo since he's specifically chosen to not even establish rights in the first place. Zorak fucked around with this message at May 18, 2012 around 05:57 |
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He has used his IP rights on a few occasions, but it is rare.
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| # ? May 18, 2012 06:54 |
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Yeah, we saw him take down the account of someone who I guess had uploaded his latest CD youtube, so he does care to some extent, at least about things directly created by him. Still, he's just an archaic person in general (that's why we love him) and clearly isn't interested in expanding internationally or moving to new distribution methods or anything, even enough to look into whether it would actually change his operation or not. I think he sees himself as the protector of the current state of doujin stuff. edit: Chen caught a big one! 
Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at May 18, 2012 around 07:05 |
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Or maybe he just doesn't want to deal with the hassle of being 'official', with all that entails. From what I hear, he's having a pretty good middle-class life going on, and he's perfectly Zen with what he's got; who needs extra bother? Sure, he's going to get miffed when HIS stuff gets leaked, but on the whole? Touhou's his hobby, not his life. That's our job EDIT: Samurai Sanders, who did that pic? Looks familiar. CommissarMega fucked around with this message at May 18, 2012 around 07:05 |
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CommissarMega posted:Or maybe he just doesn't want to deal with the hassle of being 'official', with all that entails. From what I hear, he's having a pretty good middle-class life going on, and he's perfectly Zen with what he's got; who needs extra bother? Sure, he's going to get miffed when HIS stuff gets leaked, but on the whole? Touhou's his hobby, not his life. Onikobe Rin - http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/1167047/
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CommissarMega posted:Or maybe he just doesn't want to deal with the hassle of being 'official', with all that entails. From what I hear, he's having a pretty good middle-class life going on, and he's perfectly Zen with what he's got; who needs extra bother? Sure, he's going to get miffed when HIS stuff gets leaked, but on the whole? Touhou's his hobby, not his life.  
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| # ? May 18, 2012 07:10 |
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Ah, thanks for the source. I KNEW I've seen that art somewhere.
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Samurai Sanders posted:You can always click on my pictures to go to the pixiv page, that's why I don't put in another link. It's a pretty simple matter of modifying the bbcode that imgur generates. Onikobe is about the second favorited artist I had on pixiv, and still one of my favorites ever. His pictures make me so happy. Onikobe does draws mostly wonderfully funny and heartwarming pictures and is one of my favourite artists too, but I'd like to repeat the warning which I posted in the previous thread, for the benefit of those who have not encountered the full spectrum of his works: JosephWongKS posted:
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| # ? May 18, 2012 07:59 |
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Why not turn off R-18 tagged artwork then?
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| # ? May 19, 2012 01:11 |
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Pollyanna posted:Why not turn off R-18 tagged artwork then? edit: for all those pictures he claims that he is doing it on request, though sometimes I think the requests are just coming from demons in his head. His nickname does mean "demon head" after all. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at May 19, 2012 around 02:07 |
| # ? May 19, 2012 02:03 |
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Imizu seems to have a new battle thingy out, boilerplate Danbooru warnings apply. I really like this dude, even the pages with the least detail still come up better than 99% of stuff out there. I personally really like his character designs, from Marissa wearing an army jacket and dual wielding revolvers to Alucard Remilia to the reemphasis on Combat Boots for all of them that a lot of fanart seems to have been lacking recently. I think he skipped Flan rampaging throughout Elentai  Anyone got any Yuuka theme or vocal suggestions that have any connotations of barely restrained psychotic rage? Or Yuuka feeling sad songs because no one understands her
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| # ? May 19, 2012 02:26 |
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Beware of farts.
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| # ? May 19, 2012 02:28 |
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I found a new artist. He draws silly things.
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| # ? May 19, 2012 03:38 |
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Samurai Sanders posted:Actually, not all of his piss pictures are tagged R-18. I guess if it doesn't show where the piss is coming from it doesn't get tagged. Some people's schizophrenic voices tell them they're God and they need to murder people or burn things. Onikobe's tell him to draw Touhous getting pissed on. Makes sense. And I don't know about psychotic rage, but Yuuka's SRW Touhou theme has a  opening lick and has that sort of grinding guitar under straining strings thing going on.
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Probably sounds a bit random to mention out of the blue, but I have been working on a Touhou-inspired fangame (still a SHMUP, but a bit different in feel) on and off for about six months and it is arguably near alpha state - would anyone be interested with giving it a look in a week or so once I feel it is ready? It is still notably rough (bullet patterns, graphics, sound) in areas and the actual mechanics of the game will not work well yet, but regardless it is a combination of several ideas I've had regarding gameplay which I hope will combine together for a decent experience. Before I mention anything else on the subject though, I am still waiting for reply from Zorak regarding posting further detail so I'll hold off for the time being. Spades fucked around with this message at May 19, 2012 around 09:43 |
| # ? May 19, 2012 08:28 |
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I'd give it a spin.
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| # ? May 19, 2012 08:47 |
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New Finnish 4-koma - http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/1168740
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| # ? May 19, 2012 16:43 |
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JosephWongKS posted:New Finnish 4-koma - http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/1168740
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Samurai Sanders posted:I guess in Finland that song has the same status as Stairway to Heaven or something, in a Finnish Wayne's World "No Paranoid" would be written on a sign in the guitar store. According to the notes on that comic and the Prismriver one, it's more like "Freebird", in the "someone once yelled it out at a concert and everyone thought it was funny so now people keep doing it even though it stopped being funny a long time ago" sense. The problem with "Stairway", by the way, is that it's easy to play the opening rifts and extremely popular, so everyone who goes to guitar stores will play it (thus the Wayne's World joke, which apparently isn't entirely a joke because actual guitar stores will have that sign). Same with "Smoke on the Water". [EDIT] Having reread the note in the original comic, since it was just posted, I realized I forgot/didn't know that "Stairway" gets the "Freebird" treatment in the UK, so... Copycat Zero fucked around with this message at May 19, 2012 around 17:14 |
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JosephWongKS posted:New Finnish 4-koma - http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/1168740 ahahaha they revisted Play Paranoid Original: http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show...bags_under_eyes
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