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Aatrek
Jul 19, 2004


my god

we're adrift in the heavens


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Upfront Threads (with trailers and show info): ABC - NBC - CBS & The CW - Fox - Cable











Aatrek fucked around with this message at May 19, 2012 around 01:14

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Epi Lepi
Oct 29, 2009

A bear! You made a bear!
Undo it! Undo it!!


Thanks for making this graphic again. Time to decide if I wanna catch up on anything before the fall season starts!

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

HE'S SHOOTING LIGHTNING AND I'M NAKED!


Eh. Parenthood is still on the air?

That show must get stealth good ratings(For NBC anyway).

Pillowpants
Aug 5, 2006



Wow, looking at it like this is really mindblowing.

Sunday Night looks great for ABC, but there's only one show I'm even remotely interested in on Mon-Wed (Revolution, Apt 23, and Modern Family), Thursday looks pretty good, and I'm uninterested in Friday. I think the only night I might possibly need a DVR is the Thursday 8-830 timeframe, ignoring cable shows of course.

Also, what's with all the comedies? 4 in a row Mon-thurs, but each channel does it on a different night.

Deadpool
Apr 28, 2002

Mercenary? I prefer "Well-Compensated Establishment Provocateur."



Pillowpants posted:

Also, what's with all the comedies? 4 in a row Mon-thurs, but each channel does it on a different night.

We're in the middle of a sitcom renaissance of sorts, so everybody's trying to get in on it.

Occupation
Jan 18, 2009

AM I THE ONLY ONE AROUND HERE WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT THE RULES?!

MARK IT "TERRIBLE!"


Mmmm, gonna be watching a LOT of TV this fall.

Sunday's free (I might give 666 a shot, dunno), Monday's Revolution, so that's nice and neat.

Tuesday...Tuesday's gonna be a bit of a difficult time, because I gotta choose between HE and Go On, but luckily Apt 23 is free and clear in its timeslot. Man, ABC has a STRONG Tuesday Night Comedy Mini-Block.

Wednesday's maybe Chicago Fire, still split on it. But that's it, and I'm not even sure on that show, so...yeah.

Thursday will probably be me watching Last Resort then PoI live, while recording P and R and watching it later. I wish PoI was an ABC show or Last Resort were a CBS show, since they seem to be two shows that will pair naturally.

Friday's Community, because I'm a diehard fan. That always comes first. Maybe Grimm, I heard that show was good (is it good?). Maybe Fringe, if I ever loving get around to catching up on the show.

So yeah, I'll be a busy little bee fall 2012.

Kammat
Feb 9, 2008
Odd Person

I'm very curious what the new Beauty and the Beast will be like. For all the romance plots aside, the old series was pretty interesting.

Sober
Nov 19, 2011


Dexo posted:

Eh. Parenthood is still on the air?

That show must get stealth good ratings(For NBC anyway).
It's a pretty good drama(-edy lite), nothing worth going on about though. It has my attention when I'm watching but not much worth discussing about it, almost anywhere in fact.

DougieFFC
Mar 19, 2004

We are Fulham, super Fulham, we are Fulham, fuck Ch*lsea.

I suspect Elementary is going to be a hit: it's basically the Mentalist all over again isn't it? And you can add a will-they/won't-they dynamic with Lucy Liu a la Dr Who and his assistants.

Revolution obviously wants to be "this year's Lost" but may well be this year's Flashforward/The Event instead, especially up vs. two established dramas.

666 Park Avenue could be off the air in six episodes. I suspect ABC have little faith in it otherwise they would have placed it after Once Upon a Time instead of Revenge.

The Mob Doctor looks quite good with a strong female lead but I can't see it doing more than a 1.8 in that slot.

Beauty and the Beast sounds like the dynamics of Twilight and Buffy and Angel combined, which sounds slightly more suited to come out of Vampire Diaries than Secret Circle was.

Irish Joe
Jul 23, 2007

"I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Astapor the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood."
-Daenerys Targaryen, Mother of Dragons

As much as I love Bob's Burgers, I kinda wish it would have gotten Fox's 7:30 bitch slot, if only because its a better compliment to football. King of the Hill lasted forever because it appealed to football fans despite having the worst timeslot in history and I definitely think Bob's could do the same.

DougieFFC posted:

Revolution obviously wants to be "this year's Lost" but may well be this year's Flashforward/The Event instead, especially up vs. two established dramas.


Why do networks keep picking up Abrams pilots when he hasn't had a hit show since Lost? It seems like every season there's a new Abrams show or two that goes belly-up.

Wandle Cax
Dec 15, 2006


Interesting that the CW has put Supernatural on Wednesday, after the hot new show Arrow, when it wasn't doing too bad on Fridays, and it's heading into its 8th season already. I would've though Nikita which is far younger and needs a lot more help ratings wise would be a good fit for the Weds at 9 slot, especially as it would make a great pairing with Arrow, both action shows about rogues fighting the bad guys.

DivisionPost
Jun 28, 2006

Human beings in the mire
What's a mire to a King?
What's a King to a God?
What's a God to a nonbeliever
Who don't believe in anything?


Irish Joe posted:

Why do networks keep picking up Abrams pilots when he hasn't had a hit show since Lost? It seems like every season there's a new Abrams show or two that goes belly-up.

Person of Interest is a hit, albeit a modest one.

J-Spot
May 6, 2002

I got 99 problems but a witch ain't one.



The DVR is going to get a hell of a workout this season. Sunday was already bad enough thanks to cable shows, and now ABC has to go and throw Revenge into the mix. Luckily Monday is looking like a dead zone apart from Revolution.

I'm interested to see how the 9:00 slot on Tuesday plays out. Those sitcoms are going to cannibalize one another's audience. Go On might be able to differentiate itself, but New Girl and Happy Endings are appealing to the same crowd.

Stabbey_the_Clown
Sep 21, 2002

Ask me about my deep, meaningful critiques! I'm super good at them!

It doesn't look like I'll have to do much juggling. I'm probably going to be dropping three shows next year: Once Upon a Time, Blue Bloods, and NCIS, all for pretty much the same reason: I realized that my main thought when watching a show is "Hurry up and end so I can do/watch something else".

I might give 666 Park Avenue and The Arrow a shot, but I'm not optimistic.

I still enjoy CSI: Las Vegas and The Mentalist, despite the mostly-unfamiliar cast on the first and the terribly-handled "Red John" arc on the second.

Thursday looks like my busiest day, with 3 and a half hours of stuff to watch.

No1throwdown
Feb 16, 2012


Tuesday: Happy Endings , New Girl , Go On... at the same time!

CelestialScribe
Jan 16, 2008


Sober posted:

It's a pretty good drama(-edy lite), nothing worth going on about though. It has my attention when I'm watching but not much worth discussing about it, almost anywhere in fact.

It's a very well made show about family dynamics. It's certainly nothing groundbreaking, but it's competently made, regularly tackles interesting subjects with good writers and good acting.

The order was dropped from 18 to 15, so this season may be its last.

Azure_Horizon
Mar 27, 2010

You can live in the wreckage and pretend it's the mansion you remember, or you can crawl from the rubble and move on.


Tuesdays is already sold by me with Happy Endings, and to a lesser extent, New Girl. I don't really enjoy the two of them being on at the same time, HE could use all the ratings help it can get.

cool kids inc.
May 27, 2005

I've never eaten squirrel, intentionally.


DougieFFC posted:

I suspect Elementary is going to be a hit: it's basically the Mentalist all over again isn't it? And you can add a will-they/won't-they dynamic with Lucy Liu a la Dr Who and his assistants.

If there is anything I want less than the will/won't they dynamic in yet another TV show, it's that dynamic in one based off of Sherlock Holmes. Seriously, make Joan Watson a lesbian or just completely uninterested in Holmes sexually and move on. Their friendship is one for the god drat ages, why the hell would they muck it up with Moonlighting B.S. is way beyond me.

Edit: I actually really, really want this adaptation to be good. JLH is a great actor, I can tolerate Lucy Liu (and she's fun in the right roles)and I'm a god drat sucker for anything Sherlock Holmes. There are no robots in this adaptation, so I feel like it's lost out to that cartoon.

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Revolution obviously wants to be "this year's Lost" but may well be this year's Flashforward/The Event instead, especially up vs. two established dramas.


This is true. However, it has the added bonus of not being just an Abrams joint though, and even though the other name attached is much smaller, and hasn't had any success on TV outside of 8 seasons on Supernatural, it'll be really interesting to see how the qualities of Abrams and Kripke come together.

I seem to remember reading a list in TV Guide ages ago talking about shows that would benefit from other shows' writers, and in fact LOST was mentioned needing Supernatural's mythos writers (this was back in s4 or s5 of Supernatural when the main arc hadn't finished yet).

Plus, John Favreau directing the pilot basically means I'm in on this no matter what.

cool kids inc. fucked around with this message at May 21, 2012 around 19:09

Parachute
May 18, 2003

In space no one can tickle your balls


Good call on moving ANTM to Friday. Since the "cast" has completely changed (sans Tyra), I think a lot fewer people will be tuning-in, overall.

less laughter
May 7, 2012


cool kids inc. posted:

If there is anything I want less than the will/won't they dynamic in yet another TV show, it's that dynamic in one based off of Sherlock Holmes. Seriously, make Joan Watson a lesbian or just completely uninterested in Holmes sexually and move on.

Why not make Holmes a gay then?

Mo0
Mar 21, 2005


Having Holmes and Watson be both men didn't stop Sherlock from dropping gay jokes/maybehintsmaybenot in each of the three episodes of this past season.

enuma elish
Apr 15, 2008


Mo0 posted:

Having Holmes and Watson be both men didn't stop Sherlock from dropping gay jokes/maybehintsmaybenot in each of the three episodes of this past season.

Having Holmes and Watson both be men certainly never stopped anyone from speculating about the original stories, either.

cool kids inc.
May 27, 2005

I've never eaten squirrel, intentionally.


less laughter posted:

Why not make Holmes a gay then?

Hell I'm down for gay Holmes too, but I'm not sure America is ready for a badass gay lead in a prime time procedural. I think it'd be cool as hell if they did that though. However they want to do it, I'm flexible.

I don't mind speculation and playing with the notion of will they/won't they, I DO mind if they're serious about it. I think the current adaptation on the BBC has it about perfect. There for the fan girls in huge winking swaths, but not direct or over the top.

Rapey Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

This is not the pleasure planet I was promised!


cool kids inc. posted:



This is true. However, it has the added bonus of not being just an Abrams joint though, and even though the other name attached is much smaller, and hasn't had any success on TV outside of 8 seasons on Supernatural, it'll be really interesting to see how the qualities of Abrams and Kripke come together.

I seem to remember reading a list in TV Guide ages ago talking about shows that would benefit from other shows' writers, and in fact LOST was mentioned needing Supernatural's mythos writers (this was back in s4 or s5 of Supernatural when the main arc hadn't finished yet).

Plus, John Favreau directing the pilot basically means I'm in on this no matter what.

Yeah, for all that Abrams can make invent a great setting, Kripke is just as good at making a setting come alive, and pacing stories out over multiple seasons.
For all the poo poo Supernatural gets for having two eyecandy leads (and insane fangirls), it's genuinely one of the best genre shows ever made, and a huge amount of that is down to Kripke.

VorpalBunny
May 1, 2009

Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog


cool kids inc. posted:

Hell I'm down for gay Holmes too, but I'm not sure America is ready for a badass gay lead in a prime time procedural. I think it'd be cool as hell if they did that though. However they want to do it, I'm flexible.

Someone's not watching Southland.

Ryokurin
Jul 14, 2001

Wanna Die?

I just hope they don't take the easy way out and start the tension almost from the beginning but I'm not going to kid myself into thinking that it won't eventually happen if it turns out popular.

wfwon
Apr 18, 2012



so many.....to record...no room

Aatrek
Jul 19, 2004


my god

we're adrift in the heavens


You need one of those new quad-tuner TiVo units.

MrAristocrates
Feb 13, 2012

Songbird, Songbird, see him fly
Drop the children from the sky
When the young ones misbehave
Escorts children to their grave


gently caress. I'm going to be living without a DVR next year, and I'll have enough trouble watching Community. But Happy Endings and Go On? That's going to be near-impossible to work out.

AA is for Quitters
Aug 6, 2009

Hold the newsreader's nose squarely, waiter, or friendly milk will countermand my trousers.

MrAristocrates posted:

gently caress. I'm going to be living without a DVR next year, and I'll have enough trouble watching Community. But Happy Endings and Go On? That's going to be near-impossible to work out.



...with no DVR, I am the sole purchaser of VHS tapes from my local walmart. Get a good one and you can actually record a sepearte channel.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001


Aatrek posted:

You need one of those new quad-tuner TiVo units.

Don't we all?

cool kids inc.
May 27, 2005

I've never eaten squirrel, intentionally.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff-XiZzJLxw

Elementary is looking less awful as it goes along. They've already turned the will they won't they thing on the head with the introductory bit. Also a fan of the bit at the opera and the Google reveal

Saveron_01
Dec 27, 2004


Wandle Cax posted:

Interesting that the CW has put Supernatural on Wednesday, after the hot new show Arrow, when it wasn't doing too bad on Fridays, and it's heading into its 8th season already. I would've though Nikita which is far younger and needs a lot more help ratings wise would be a good fit for the Weds at 9 slot, especially as it would make a great pairing with Arrow, both action shows about rogues fighting the bad guys.

I am happy about that move for Supernatural, although having Arrow go against Survivor is an interesting choice. For the past couple (maybe more) seasons Survivor has been disappointing, mainly due to budget cuts and horrible editing, so I can certainly see that the CW smells blood in the water and wants viewers some good alternatives to that aging show.

less laughter
May 7, 2012


Saveron_01 posted:

I am happy about that move for Supernatural, (...) good alternatives to that aging show.
Pot, meet kettle.

Sly Pistachio
Mar 20, 2008


Have 3 of these:



12 tuners.

Bring it on.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

MUNCH
MUNCH
MUNCH
MUNCH
MUNCH


Wouldn't you need 3 extra cable cards too?

Saveron_01 posted:

I am happy about that move for Supernatural, although having Arrow go against Survivor is an interesting choice. For the past couple (maybe more) seasons Survivor has been disappointing, mainly due to budget cuts and horrible editing, so I can certainly see that the CW smells blood in the water and wants viewers some good alternatives to that aging show.

How do budget cuts work on Survivor? Less elaborate games, fewer cameramen...?

Saveron_01
Dec 27, 2004


Aphrodite posted:

How do budget cuts work on Survivor? Less elaborate games, fewer cameramen...?

They have been using the same location for the past few seasons (Samoa), they film two seasons back to back to save money, but if say something is terrible in the first season, they have no real feedback on whether it works or not, so they use it in the second season. Also less elaborate challenges and recycled challenges from season to season.

Mo0
Mar 21, 2005


Aphrodite posted:

Wouldn't you need 3 extra cable cards too?


How do budget cuts work on Survivor? Less elaborate games, fewer cameramen...?

The biggest one, as Saveron mentioned, is that they're filming two seasons back to back in the same location instead of what they used to do, where they filmed one season in the summer then went somewhere else in the fall to film the other one. It means to differentiate the two seasons they have to resort to some gimmick or another, and lately that's involved returning players in at least one of each pair of seasons.

Also the challenges have gotten less elaborate, including ones where Jeff doesn't even show up and they do the whole thing themselves at camp, which while a neat idea has mostly stunk of "this way it's cheaper!" than an actual creative different thing for challenges.

The recycled challenges aren't entirely budget related, I'd say... after so many seasons they're bound to start hitting their head against a wall trying to think of new challenges, and by reusing a challenge they know going in whether or not it makes for good TV or a good challenge.

cool kids inc.
May 27, 2005

I've never eaten squirrel, intentionally.


less laughter posted:

Pot, meet kettle.

Seeing as he's talking about Arrow there and not Supernatural, I'd say reading...meet comprehension.

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Sly Pistachio
Mar 20, 2008


Aphrodite posted:

Wouldn't you need 3 extra cable cards too?

3 CableCARD rentals is still cheaper than renting a single DVR, or even a basic receiver, from the cable company.

I pay $2 a month per CableCARD so $6 a month for 12 tuners beats the hell out of $18 a month for a crappy 2-tuner cable company DVR.

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