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Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Online Encyclopedia



Sefer posted:

This gets better when you get allies, so accept friend requests and add everyone you can. You can request energy and shield points as gifts with the + signs next to each, I know I always fulfill any requests I see in my inbox.


Straight type 3 chaotics give you the best all around stats. You can definitely focus on one thing or another to bring that up for a given character- I boost Hulk's accuracy (because it's really low at base) and Cap's evasion (to make it even harder to hit him when he's doing Shield Block) more than others, for instance.

You'll unlock your last plane slot at 55 and be able to upgrade to Blackbirds at 65. There's apparently another ship upgrade at 100, but I'm not there yet. Upgrading to Blackbirds is 25000 each... I think I worked out that it would take at least 5 days to get a return on my investment.
When do you get access to the "shards"? Like, I know at first you get ISO "chips", then "fragments", then "shards". Right now fragments are the only thing available to me.

Also does anyone know when/how to get the next Generalist suit? Like my research queue is chock-full of stuff I can research to get higher-tier specialist suits, but I'm wondering about the next Generalist one.

Edit-- also for those running low on energy/Shield points/whatever, remember that you can request gifts from allies multiple times, so by all means spam that "request gift" button and I'll gift them to you. Just remember that you can only accept 50 gifts a day.

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ManiacClown
May 30, 2002

Gone, gone, O honky man,
And rise the M.C. Etrigan!

I believe you just level into it.

By they way, here's my Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/nick.zachariasen?ref=tn_tnmn

enigmahfc
Oct 10, 2003

'splode!

Sefer posted:

This gets better when you get allies, so accept friend requests and add everyone you can. You can request energy and shield points as gifts with the + signs next to each, I know I always fulfill any requests I see in my inbox.

Yeah, I was till fumbling with stuff, but as soon as I found out what I was doing things went a lot better. Thanks to anyone who sent me poo poo

Also, holy poo poo Iron Fist is a beast. I got his second power, The Iron Fist, and that loving thing crits like every other attack and one shots the gently caress out of enemies.

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Emergency induction port.

Iron Fist becomes really fun when you spend a few rounds using his level 9 skill. I was doing that for kicks and his evasion got so high that he was dodging anything coming at him, and what did hit him was pathetic for damage.

Fumaofthelake
Dec 30, 2004

Is it handsome in here, or is it just me?

Xenomrph posted:

When do you get access to the "shards"? Like, I know at first you get ISO "chips", then "fragments", then "shards". Right now fragments are the only thing available to me.

Also does anyone know when/how to get the next Generalist suit? Like my research queue is chock-full of stuff I can research to get higher-tier specialist suits, but I'm wondering about the next Generalist one.

Edit-- also for those running low on energy/Shield points/whatever, remember that you can request gifts from allies multiple times, so by all means spam that "request gift" button and I'll gift them to you. Just remember that you can only accept 50 gifts a day.

Shards are available for research at level 60 so long as you have the previous tier researched.

Generalist suits will just show up in the store when you have a high enough level, no research needed.

Also I can not overstate how good Cap's level 9 ability is. I'm doing spec ops and getting Perfect Strategy on more than half of the boss fights without needing to heal. I upped the poo poo out of Cap's evasion and use the skill and everyone just whiffs and gets killed. For the somewhat rare occasion that a hit makes it through, as long as it doesn't have damage over time attached my Magnetic Field Generator takes care of it. That combined with Coordinated Defense as well... Insult to injury. Basically everyone needs to buy Cap and grind Epic Magneto (need Spider-Man for that encounter I believe, and have to deploy Storm as well) to get MFG.

rotinaj
Sep 4, 2008



I'm surprised how smooth this game feels for a Facebook game. It's surprisingly deep and polished.

Sefer
Sep 2, 2006
Not supposed to be here today

Codependent Poster posted:

Iron Fist becomes really fun when you spend a few rounds using his level 9 skill. I was doing that for kicks and his evasion got so high that he was dodging anything coming at him, and what did hit him was pathetic for damage.

Doing that, or using the Norn Stone (Epic Loki) or Doombringer (Epic Doom) to get one hit kills on everything is actually a strategy for getting a ton of points on the epic Hammerhead boss in the first special ops mission so you can make it worth the ISO you spend on it. Just spam the buff for 20 rounds or so while using the other characters to heal with items until you do ridiculous damage.

Fumaofthelake
Dec 30, 2004

Is it handsome in here, or is it just me?

rotinaj posted:

I'm surprised how smooth this game feels for a Facebook game. It's surprisingly deep and polished.

Did you just start playing recently? I don't think I've ever seen anyone, even the die hard apologists on the developer's forum, say this. I've had a ton of hard freezes, the game telling me to refresh and lose my progress, and various other things happen. A lot of people have issues with the server rollback being lovely and losing a bunch of stuff (including purchased heroes in some cases). Not trying to be a dick, just don't necessarily expect that feeling to last.

I will say that I was very surprised and pleased with how well the game plays in terms of strategy options, the equipment, all that stuff. I would pay for a boxed copy of a game that used the same battle system but somehow eliminated the need to wait for energy and poo poo. Put this poo poo on DS or smart phones or some poo poo.

rotinaj
Sep 4, 2008



Hey, I'm saying compared to other Facebook games.

Fumaofthelake
Dec 30, 2004

Is it handsome in here, or is it just me?

I've never really played any other Facebook games, so maybe that's why.

Soonmot
Dec 19, 2002

Dragons love BBQ!


Fumaofthelake posted:

I've never really played any other Facebook games, so maybe that's why.

Be thankful.

On a happy note, I have finally 5 starred spec op mission 1! Time to move onto mission 2.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

madam, your hydraulic pressure is atrocious!

I play this game far too much. Some pointers:

GIFTING: Energy or bust. There's only a couple of exceptions to this rule: Shield points if you're just starting out, and event stuff like this Unstable ISO that's necessary for the Mockingbird missions. Don't bother with anything else, enough items drop during battle that you'll rarely be wanting.

If you decide you want to really give the game a go, you'll need either friends or money. Sad to say, but that's the way of life with these Facebook games. If you do go the friend route, be sure to visit them every day but only AFTER you've emptied your energy bar (and PVP bar if you care about that). Each friend you visit gives some combo of 3 shield points/1 energy/1 PVP/some silver. Have enough friends and you'll never want for Shield points.

I'm giving Mockingbird a go even though a got a late start on her, as I was bouncing Elektra's head off the floor like a basketball to grind enough Command Points to get the Avengers uniforms. I've 4 starred the first mission, and I'm not so much worried about the clock as I am about getting enough of the ISO to run the missions. We'll see; the good news is that I haven't touched any of the gold I've earned, so I've got over a 100 bars to burn if necessary. Been running Cap/Thor for the most part, as Cap's level 9 skill aggros everyone on him, and once Thor has his level 6 x2, he can knock out anyone. I'm sacrificing one-hits due to Cap, so I need Thor to overkill. For Madame Masque, I two-bird and run Hulk with revenge strike and protect, which allows him to gently caress a hole in a bus once he hits someone.

The game's not perfect, but it's good for a free game. I'm hoping it lasts beyond the Avengers home release period, that they've got a bunch of X-Men and other minor characters gives me some faith it'll stick around, but we'll see.

ManiacClown
May 30, 2002

Gone, gone, O honky man,
And rise the M.C. Etrigan!

C. Everett Koop posted:

gently caress a hole in a bus

I have never heard this expression before. I must start using it.

ManiacClown
May 30, 2002

Gone, gone, O honky man,
And rise the M.C. Etrigan!

gently caress getting Liquid Fire as my quest reward for SpecOps. Lots of things burn. Almost nothing chills.

Edit: As another tip, get the Offensive Accelerator for SpecOps mission 3. You'll run into TA-Betas, who use Wrong Thinking to Weaken the entire party. Bollocks to that.

ManiacClown fucked around with this message at May 23, 2012 around 13:20

E the Shaggy
Mar 29, 2010


Who's the best member to throw into the Wrecker fight in Spec Ops?

I had Hawkeye and nearly beat the Wrecker but his attacks just weren't strong enough. I wanted to not use the Hulk since the Wrecker is with two blasters.

Little Mac
Jan 3, 2006

Super Mario Brothers

E the Shaggy posted:

Who's the best member to throw into the Wrecker fight in Spec Ops?

I had Hawkeye and nearly beat the Wrecker but his attacks just weren't strong enough. I wanted to not use the Hulk since the Wrecker is with two blasters.

I've been using Hulk anyway and having my agent as a tactician to take out the blasters faster.

ManiacClown
May 30, 2002

Gone, gone, O honky man,
And rise the M.C. Etrigan!

I suit up my Agent as a Tactician and I've used a level 7 (now 8) War Machine to good effect unless a bad turn order fucks me, like Wrecker nailing my Tacticians with statuses before they get to attack.

Sefer
Sep 2, 2006
Not supposed to be here today

E the Shaggy posted:

Who's the best member to throw into the Wrecker fight in Spec Ops?

I had Hawkeye and nearly beat the Wrecker but his attacks just weren't strong enough. I wanted to not use the Hulk since the Wrecker is with two blasters.

The answer is almost always a level 9 Captain America Alternately, Kitty Pride and either Protect items or a level 6 Phoenix.

War Machine is also really good in a fight against blasters, his low level powers do a lot of damage.

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Emergency induction port.

E the Shaggy posted:

Who's the best member to throw into the Wrecker fight in Spec Ops?

I had Hawkeye and nearly beat the Wrecker but his attacks just weren't strong enough. I wanted to not use the Hulk since the Wrecker is with two blasters.

You can still use Hulk. Just have to heal him. But he should Hulk up fast enough to take out the blasters before they get him if you keep healing.

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007


This game is addictive as poo poo. I have a bunch of friends playing it, so it generally just takes me a few hours before I'm back to able to play after running out of whatever.

Undead Unicorn
Sep 14, 2010
DONT YOU FUCKING DARE INSULT ENDERS GAME GOD DAMN
MAYBE I SHOULD BE COMBATIVE AND TALK MORE ABOUT ENDERS GAME IN THIS THREAD

DO ME A FAVOR AND ENSURE THAT I GET TO WRITE PARAGRAPHS-LONG DIATRIBES DEFENDING THE WORK OF A MAN WHO THINKS BEING MOLESTED MAKES KIDS GAY. GOOD SHIT


How the hell do you message allies in this game? I just want to play to get some drat energy and command points but this game isn't giving me any.

Undead Unicorn fucked around with this message at May 23, 2012 around 23:31

E the Shaggy
Mar 29, 2010


I have been absolutely tearing it up in PVP with Spidey and Hulk (Avengers suit).

Man a lot of people are using tacticians.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

This is easily the funniest page of any of these threads.


Has anyone tried avoiding the Mockingbird fight in spec ops 1-3? What happens, does the game just refuse to give you more fights until you clear her? I can't imagine you could fight both against her and teamed up with her at the same time.

I did figure out that the best way to utterly ruin her day is to bring Captain America and a scrapper. Cap's go-first power guarantees you'll turn her into an infiltrator for the scrapper to tee off on every round.

edit: Hey, guess who's got two thumbs and just got the Enchanted Crowbar

CapnAndy fucked around with this message at May 24, 2012 around 01:07

AggsOfSpades
Sep 5, 2011


I started playing this a while back. It's a lot of fun, but you need Silver way too much sometimes.

https://www.facebook.com/AguLabsInc

Feel free to add me and I will pass around Shield points whenever I can.

Little Mac
Jan 3, 2006

Super Mario Brothers

CapnAndy posted:

Has anyone tried avoiding the Mockingbird fight in spec ops 1-3? What happens, does the game just refuse to give you more fights until you clear her? I can't imagine you could fight both against her and teamed up with her at the same time.

I did figure out that the best way to utterly ruin her day is to bring Captain America and a scrapper. Cap's go-first power guarantees you'll turn her into an infiltrator for the scrapper to tee off on every round.

edit: Hey, guess who's got two thumbs and just got the Enchanted Crowbar

If you avoid her she shows up in the battle with Wrecker instead and you bring Hawkeye.

I now have TWO Enchanted Crowbars. I wish I could trade them for CP.

Soonmot
Dec 19, 2002

Dragons love BBQ!


AggsOfSpades posted:

I started playing this a while back. It's a lot of fun, but you need Silver way too much sometimes.

https://www.facebook.com/AguLabsInc

Feel free to add me and I will pass around Shield points whenever I can.

If you're going to be around the computer, run 10 or 20 minute away missions. With 8 level 4 jets I bring in 5K every 20 minutes. Silver drastically decreases the longer the away mission.

EgillSkallagrimsson
May 6, 2007


Add me and I'll try to keep up with sending stuff.
http://www.facebook.com/EgillSkallagrimsson1

Volume
May 2, 2008

My gimmick is stale and I should get a new one, but I have less imagination than a small cartoon boy.


quote:

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Just as I was about to beat bullseye.

It didn't even give me back my energy points.

Or the items I used.

gently caress you!

Fumaofthelake
Dec 30, 2004

Is it handsome in here, or is it just me?

Volume posted:

Just as I was about to beat bullseye.

It didn't even give me back my energy points.

Or the items I used.

gently caress you!

Get used to it.

MelvinTheJerk
Jun 4, 2001

I'm still here.


It is so stupid that Iron Man is the forced team up character against Thunderball. The game is basically saying "Shut up and buy an alt costume" because otherwise Iron Man just gets destroyed.

ManiacClown
May 30, 2002

Gone, gone, O honky man,
And rise the M.C. Etrigan!

Mark my words: with Gnome Town and Avengers Alliance, coupled with the fact that Zynga hasn't had a hit besides Farmville and even then people are quitting, Playdom will soon be the new Zynga, especially in terms of "gently caress you, player, give us money."

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Online Encyclopedia



Playdom is also owned by Disney (hence why they did the Avengers game, since Disney owns Marvel) so they can probably get consistently good production values.

Having said that, Avengers Alliance is currently "down for maintenance".

Soonmot
Dec 19, 2002

Dragons love BBQ!


MelvinTheJerk posted:

It is so stupid that Iron Man is the forced team up character against Thunderball. The game is basically saying "Shut up and buy an alt costume" because otherwise Iron Man just gets destroyed.

Captain America i the answer to all your problems. At this point, I'd rather field Cap than Hulk.

Didion
Mar 16, 2009


Soonmot posted:

Captain America i the answer to all your problems. At this point, I'd rather field Cap than Hulk.

One thing though, Cap and Hulk together and Cap using his lev9 skill pretty much nerfs Hulks prowess due to the extended time needed to achieve desired level of Hulk-Up. I use Thor instead now for kicks and because his Mjolnir power can only be maxed up to 2.

Didion fucked around with this message at May 24, 2012 around 19:07

Soonmot
Dec 19, 2002

Dragons love BBQ!


Didion posted:

One thing though, Cap and Hulk together and Cap using his lev9 skill pretty much nerfs Hulks prowess due to the extended time needed to achieve desired level of Hulk-Up. I use Thor instead now for kicks and because his Mjolnir power can only be maxed up to 2.

That is exactly what I'll be moving to once I finish these special ops missions.

AggsOfSpades
Sep 5, 2011


So, I've got the command points, is Bruiser Cap worth it? I'd like to have him on the team more often, but my agent is a tactician so that just weakens the group.

rotinaj
Sep 4, 2008



How do lowbies start whooping rear end? I have no heroes, no points to recruit heroes with, and not many options on how to start kicking rear end.

Sandman and Hammerhead are giving me trouble.

Soonmot
Dec 19, 2002

Dragons love BBQ!


/\/\/\/\Item use. Call for backup. You'll be whipping rear end in no time.

I bought bruiser Cap for the same reason and do not regret it in the least. I'd rather take the crit damage from blasters then get rear end hosed everytime he attacks an infiltrator. Add some scrappers to the map and Cap is beastly with his level 9.

AggsOfSpades
Sep 5, 2011


Edit: ^^^ That too. Don't be afraid to blow through items. You'll have a stash of them sooner or later.

rotinaj posted:

How do lowbies start whooping rear end? I have no heroes, no points to recruit heroes with, and not many options on how to start kicking rear end.

Sandman and Hammerhead are giving me trouble.

Grind. Beat previous missions for points. It's what I did. I'm about 12 levels ahead of where I am in story, but I've got a page and a half of heroes to show for it.

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rotinaj
Sep 4, 2008



What's the best Hero to buy for lower-than-90 Command Point costs?

rotinaj fucked around with this message at May 24, 2012 around 20:19

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