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MEAT!
Mar 18, 2008





Welcome to the Tech Support Fort. If you can't solve your technical problems by going through what we have here, let us know and we'll try our best to help you out.

The following contains information, guides, and technical knowledge contributed by members of this subforum over the past 4 or so years, so put it to good use. I will be actively maintaining the OP of this thread. I will make a list of things I think we need a guide for, so if you want a guide for something and you don't see it on the list, let me know. I will be making guides as I go through the list, but feel free to provide guides of your own if you wish to do so, as it would be greatly appreciated.

All programs listed are free to use unless stated otherwise.

Content: • • •

MEAT! fucked around with this message at Jun 4, 2012 around 03:34

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MEAT!
Mar 18, 2008





1.) READ THE OP
If you ask a question that's answered in the OP and people either act like jerks, reply with just "read the op", or ignore you, don't be surprised. If you're reading this right now after this just happened, now you know why. A lot of work went into writing this up and making these guides. It's frustrating to be asked the same questions over and over when you can find all the info on basic and advanced techniques right here.

2.) BE PROACTIVE
There are so many sites available that could help you out with a problem you're having. If you're completely clueless and have no idea where to start, then we understand, but if you know the basics and you're having a very specific problem, the solution could be just a Google search away.

3.) BE SPECIFIC
Provided you went through the OP first, posting "guys my poo poo doesn't work help" without any context doesn't give anyone a whole lot to work with. Give us your workflow step-by-step, the programs you're using, the specs of your computer (operating system, 32-bit or 64-bit, processor, video card, Hard Drive specifics, the works), the sites you tried uploading to, different things you've tried after your first attempt, basically anything that you could possibly think of. The more info you give us the easier it'll be for us to see where you went wrong.

4.) BE HUMBLE
People are helping you out of their own free time and sharing their knowledge with you for free. Acting like an entitled or impatient rear end in a top hat isn't going to get your problem fixed any faster, nor will it win you many friends.

5.) BE HELPFUL
If you notice any errors in what's written here, or if you have any constructive criticism over how something could be improved, or if you'd like to contribute something of your own, please do! Just be sure to be open to criticism over your contributions yourself.

6.) GIVE BALDURK A HIGH-FIVE
You'd make his day if you gave him one.

7.) CHECK OUT SOME OF THESE BALLER-rear end WEB SITES
Many of these sites contain expansive guides on common topics. Some may be very out of date, but combined with the info provided here, they could get you off the ground. They also have some interesting reading if you'd like to learn more about video editing in general.

Doom9 ForumsAfterDawnVideoHelpDigital DigestDiary Of An x264 Developer

8.) ENCODE YOUR FINAL VIDEO WITH X264 AND FAAC YOU FUCKS
Because you should.

9.) FOLLOW THIS
If the big bold words in point 8 mean nothing to you:
• Don't use XviD.
• Don't use MP3.
• Don't record at half-size, or anything other than full-size.
• Play and record at the size you want your final video to be.
• Don't lossy compress more than once.
• Play with your bitrate or cq on a short clip to get an idea on what you should use.
• Don't use filters when playing 2D games. They look like poo poo. This is fact.

MEAT!
Mar 18, 2008









A Workflow Diagram
baldurk's excellent workflow diagram. If you need a general idea where you should start, give this a look. A few things that could be said about it is that, if you need to, you should edit your audio at the same time as your video, you should be weary of the LP illuminati, and that you shouldn't use MediaCoder to encode.
Recommended


AviSynth Basics*
A really well written guide to get you off the ground with Avisynth, courtesy of Vicas. It'll take you from the first step to some basic filters, and will also show how to use some more advanced stuff like plugins and functions.
- Before you ask: Don't AviSource an AVS file, use Import instead.
Recommended


Fraps to MeGUI
A very well written guide by Kung-Fu Jesus. Step by step instructions from raw Fraps files to a final encode with MeGUI. The Auto-Encode feature should be used at the end instead, however.
Recommended


From HD-PVR to Dual Audio LP Video, a semi-comprehensive guide*
An excellent guide by pokecapn on how to capture, edit, and encode video from an HDPVR.
Recommended


Getting started with overlays and animations (dynamic/moving overlays) using Avisynth
Phiggle breaks down how he does all the cool animations in his videos. This guide also basically shows you the essentials of working with images in Avisynth.


How to Prevent Sony Vegas from Destroying Your Video
Mico shows you how to properly setup your video project and how to properly export your video so Vegas doesn't turn it into blurry, interlaced garbage.


Extract h264 Video from an m2ts File
A quick little guide by Static Fiend that shows how to get your h264 video out of the m2ts container when you record video with the HD PVR.


Blackmagic Intensity Versus Hauppauge HD PVR
supergreatfriend shows off the differences between the two most affordable options for high definition video capture.


How to Make Subtitles [Baldurdash|Download(10.7mb)]
A video tutorial I made in response to the trouble people were having with subtitles. I go over the basics of making SRT subtitles with notepad and the basics of Aegisub, along with making hardsubs with VirtualDub. It has a number of flaws, however, and I plan to remake it soon.


How to Stream
Ambisagrus shows off his streaming method. It's also really good at helping you get an idea on how to set up VAC.


Cropping and Resizing Recorded PS2 Footage
The results of an experiment I did in order to find out how to properly crop and resize SD footage.


A Case for YADIF
flamedrake shows off how YADIF is awesome when it comes to deinterlacing.


Reasons for Checkerboard Patterns with S-Video
flamedrake and AccountingNightmare show us some reasons why your video might look lovely even when you're using S-Video.


Self-Hosting Your Own Video LP
Scarboy gives us a quick little guide on what you need to stream your videos from your own hosting.


VirtualDub Video Tutorial
Static Fiend lays out the basics of VirtualDub and encoding with MediaCoder in this video tutorial. Very useful for learning the basics and how to get around with VirtualDub. Unfortunately, this video is pretty old and so are its methods. I'm trying to wean us away from using VirtualDub for general editing and using MediaCoder isn't recommended, as always.


Capturing Video with VirtualDub
Maxwell Adams shows some good settings if you'd like to use VirtualDub to capture a part of your screen.


Recording with DOSBox
A guide by dang_david if you want to use DOSBox's built in recorder.


Recording with DOSBox in Linux
t_rf shows how to do the same as above but with Linux.


Software for Macs
Sartak gives you the skinny on some useful Mac software.


Recording a DS - How to Make a DS Video Using a Camera
Taisan shows off the incredible way he pulled off his awesome Ouendan LP. A really cool read, even if you don't plan on using it.


Video Copilot's After Effects Basics
An amazing step-by-step guide that will hold your hand through the basics of Adobe After Effects. You don't really need After Effects to do anything special with your videos, and most people find that things done with After Effects are gimmicky and unnecessary, but if you want some help starting out with it, this is where you should go.






Auto Ducking in Audacity
baldurk's very well written by the numbers auto ducking guide. Auto Ducking can be hit or miss depending if you do it right or not. Frequent changes in volume will piss off anyone listening, so if you or your commentators are talking for an extended period of time, don't drop the audio every time someone takes a breath.
Recommended


How to Fix Gradual Audio Desyncing in Your Video in 3 Steps
Another very well written guide by Taisan. You can replace Sony Sound Forge with Audacity easily enough.


Audio Routing Tactics Using Virtual Audio Cable
The original VAC guide written by Scarboy. It's not exactly easy to follow, but the info is all there, so give it a shot.


VAC Setup Chart
Maxxim drops a simple chart on how to setup VAC.


Audio Setup for Macs
Sartak tells you how to setup your audio if you're on a Mac.






Image Formats
R1CH lays out the basics to image formats and which ones should be used when. It seems a bit ambiguous, unfortunately, since people still can't seem to get it right.


Transcribe Text From Screenshots
Toxic Frog shows a really cool way you can get text from images using the powerful ImageMagick.


Image Capture with IrfanView
gwar3k1 gives you the basics on how to capture images with the awesome irfanview, the best of it showing how to batch process. No visual aids, unfortunately, but then...


Getting Screenshots the Easy Way
He makes pretty much the same guide with pictures, so enjoy.


Animated Gif making in Gif Movie Gear
GuavaMoment shows how to make an animated GIF using Camtasia and GIF Movie Gear.


How to Make Animated Gifs [Baldurdash|Download(10.0mb)]
A video tutorial I made showing how to make animated GIFs with VirtualDub and GIMP. I was on a free software kick around this point, so I omitted using better software that you can't get for no money. There's a few important points I forgot to mention while going through this, which was made pretty clear by people having problems right after I posted the video. A remake is in the works.

MEAT! fucked around with this message at Nov 23, 2012 around 18:54

MEAT!
Mar 18, 2008





Please note that the best alternative to all the hosting options described below is Your Own Hosting. The clear advantage is that you virtually have no restrictions in what material you can host. Pretty much the only disadvantage is that you have to pay a monthly fee, but even that can be very minimal.





DO NOT USE VIMEO They kicked our asses out. Vimeo will delete any account with any videos of video games of any kind.

DO NOT USE VIDDLER They no longer allow you to make free accounts and their pay options are awful.

YouTube

Pros
• Can host HD video.
• Doesn't care about LPs.
No time limit for accounts in good standing. All you need to do is verify your account.
• Immortal.

Cons:
• No option to download source video.
• Messes up upload sometimes by lengthening or shortening video while audio stays the same. A definite fix to this has yet to be found, though encoding with VP8 looks promising.
• 15 minute time limit for those not graced with no time limit, although that's pretty decent.
• Shunned community. Can be avoided by unlisting your video and/or turning off comments. Could be considered a pro from a different perspective.


blip.tv

Pros:
• Can host HD video.
• No time limit.
• FTP Upload.
• Option to download source video.
• Unlikely to die any time soon.
• Won't re-encode your video if you upload it in an FLV container.

Cons:
• Must follow their episodic TV Show concept or risk getting your account deleted.
• This means: Fill out all their forms carefully to make it look like a TV show.
• This means: Have voice at the start of your videos.
• This means: No subtitled VLPs. (Some say they don't delete subtitled VLPs anymore, but use at your own risk.)
• It says in their FAQ that it is part of their policy to not accept videogame screen recordings, so use at your own risk.


Dailymotion

Pros:
• Can host HD video.
• Doesn't care about LPs.
• Unlikely to die any time soon.
• A decent alternate video host.

Cons:
• 20 minute time limit.
• No option to download source video.
• Lots of intrusive ads.






DO NOT USE IMAGE SHACK It does not work on SA.

DO NOT USE PHOTOBUCKET It will run out of bandwidth very fast. It will also make it easy for people to find out how big a creepy gently caress you are.

DO NOT USE WAFFLEIMAGES WaffleImages was shut down. Thank you R1CH and all the others who contributed to the project.


LPix

Pros:
• LP exclusive image host run by baldurk. Give the man a hi5 if you see him.
• Lets you sort images into separate galleries.
• Powered by baldurk's pro voice.
• Has a Rightload plug-in.
You'll need Microsoft C++ 2010 Redistributable (x86) (x64) for the newest version.
Make sure to insert your LPix username and password in the plug-in options or it won't work.

Cons:
• 2MB max file size upload limit.
• Makes every other image host look like a busta.


Minus

Pros:
• Supports all file types (images, music, videos).
• 1 GB file size upload limit.
• Unlimited downloads.
• Free accounts, starts at 10 GB space, can be upgraded to 50 GB.
• Has a set of applications for several different platforms to facilitate uploads.

Cons:
• Uhh...
• Guest uploads expire in 30 days?
• Hot linked images may be throttled?


Imgur

Pros:
• Supports a lot of different image types.
• Has a Rightload plug-in.

Cons:
• 10MB max non-animated, 2MB animated file size upload limit.
• If non-animated image is over 1MB then it will automatically be compressed or resized to 1MB.
• Images may be removed if they don't get at least 1 view every 3 months.

MEAT! fucked around with this message at Jun 14, 2012 around 03:11

MEAT!
Mar 18, 2008










Hauppauge USB-Live2

AVerMedia DVD EZMaker 7

AVerMedia AVerCapture M

Blackmagic Design Video Recorder

Pinnacle Dazzle DVD Recorder HD









Hauppauge HD PVR

Hauppauge HD PVR Gaming Edition

Blackmagic Design Intensity

AVerMedia AVerTV HD DVR

AVerMedia AVerTV USB HD DVR

AVerMedia Game Capture HD

AVerMedia Live Gamer HD

AVerMedia Game Broadcaster HD









Logitech USB Headset H330

Logitech USB Headset H360

Logitech USB Headset H390

Microsoft LifeChat LX-3000

Somebody fucked around with this message at Sep 30, 2012 around 19:06

MEAT!
Mar 18, 2008









HyperCam2


Camtasia Studio
This is the fancy program HyperCam wants to be. They give you a 30 day trial period, and sometimes people even pay 300 bucks for the full version. It has some pretty nice features, like auto resizing the capture area to any window you select, and it's easy to adjust things like framerate, audio quality, and codec. It also comes with an editor that's akin to a less buggy, output unlocked windows movie maker.


FRAPS
What you want if you want to record fullscreen PC games or any application that uses DirectX or OpenGL. For 37$ USD, you'll get an application that will let you record lossless video at full size and full speed, benchmark your ingame framerate, and let you take screenshots in different formats, all at the touch of a key. Make note that the videos you'll be recording will be huge in file size, so make space for them. There's a trial version available, but don't bother with it. It'll put a watermark at the top of your video and it's limited to recording for only 30 seconds at a time.


VirtualDub
VirtualDub is better known for its editing capabilities, but it's also great for screen recording.


MSI Afterburner






Avisynth
A frameserver, a scripting language, and a non-linear editor. Avisynth is just awesome. This is what you should be using to edit your videos, and it should be the only thing you need, since you can playback your edits without re-encoding and you can feed your script to an encoder to get your final video. Pretty much anything you want to do with your video, you can do it with Avisynth. It can also simplify your workflow and make it more efficient, as you can make a template for edits you frequently make. There's a bit of a learning curve, but there is extensive documentation on how to use it on the site's wiki, and the installer comes with a few example scripts you can take a look at.


AvsPmod
A continuation of the fantastic AvsP. If you want a GUI for Avisynth, this is as close as it gets, and it's pretty drat good. Some favourite features are filter name autocompletion, the ease in applying trims, and the ability to use sliders to see immediate changes when tweaking settings like color and contrast. The AvsP site has a flash tutorial to get you started, plus extensive documentation on how to use the program's several features, so there really is no excuse not to use it. To top it off, there's even a built in encoder, so you can use this program from start to finish.


VirtualDub Mod
VirtualDub has been the go-to program for quite a while now in terms of editing, but it really should be put out to pasture in favour of the much more versatile Avisynth. Though it is out of date, VirtualDub Mod gets a mention here since it has many features that the main version does not, including MPEG support, script editing, muxing, exporting single frames from the timeline, multiple output formats, and more.


Avidemux
Avidemux resembles VirtualDub in many ways (its UI, filters, etc.), yet it has several features that VirtualDub does not. For one, it's multi-platform. There are versions available for Windows, Mac OS, Linux, and PC-BSD, so nobody gets left out this time. Also unlike VirtualDub, it can export with several different codecs and containers. Its website has an extensive wiki on the program's features and how to use it, along with several guides and tutorials. If this all sounds good to you, I suggest you give it a try.


Windows Movie Maker
Windows Movie Maker is the only free GUI based Non-Linear Editor, which makes it pretty remarkapfffffhaahahahahahahahaasdfjkl;asdfjkl; sorry, couldn't help myself. Movie Maker is a buggy, restrictive pile of poo poo and you shouldn't use it. It's not even worth describing why, just don't. If you're using it for its effects, they're easily replicated in other, better programs. If you decide to stick with it and want help with it, I suggest going to the site linked above. If you ask about it here, the only response you'll get is use something else.






YAMB
YAMB, or Yet Another MP4Box UI, is a useful program that lets you mux video and audio streams to an .MP4 container with an easy to use UI. It can also extract streams from different containers, as well as several other features.


MKVToolnix
A set of tools used to create .MKV files. It includes mkvmergeGUI, which functions similarly to YAMB in that you can easily mux several streams or subtitles into a single file.


MKVExtractGUI-2
The opposite of mkvmerge, this lets you easily extract individual streams from an .MKV file.






Aegisub
A subtitle editor made for making anime subtitles in mind, but don't let that deter you from using it. It's multiplatform, very rich in features, has an intuitive and easy to use GUI, supports Unicode, and can read and output several subtitle formats. The website also features a manual if you need help getting started.


Notepad
If you want to be one of the cool kids and kick it old school, all you need is a copy notepad and windows media player 6.4 to jam out them sweetass subs.






Audacity
Pretty much the go-to audio recorder/editor these days. It's free, supports several audio types, has a bunch of guides written for it, and it's pretty easy to use as far as audio editors go. There really aren't many reasons not to use it. Make sure to get the beta version if you want all the latest features.


GoldWave
If Audacity doesn't do it for you, you could always give GoldWave a try. It has a pretty neat interface and it's incredibly feature rich, but it's a shareware program, so you'll need to purchase it if you want to unlock its full potential. However, you should still be able to do whatever you want to do with the evaluation version.


The Levelator
A pretty sweet program that you can use to level out audio between commentators and background audio. Just dump the audio file into the main window and let the program do the rest!


Virtual Audio Cable
You might need this program if you need to perform complicated audio recording scenarios, like recording game footage and audio as a separate file from skype audio while feeding the whole to a stream for instance. It takes some tinkering to use and its interface isn't exactly easy to figure out. The demo is essentially useless, so you'll want to pony up 30$ to use it.


CallGraph
If you just need to record a skype call then CallGraph could be just the thing you need. It's an easy to use plugin for skype that will record the call in a decent quality .MP3 and its basic version is completely free.






MeGUI
MeGUI is an incredibly powerful video encoder. It has a massive amount of features such as multiple codec support for video and audio, presets, avisynth editing, deinterlace suggestion, auto updates, and much more. It's only "fault" is that it's a little hard to work with at the start, but we have many guides available that will let you get the hang of it.


Zarx264gui
It doesn't get any easier than this. Pop in your video and this program will make an avisynth script for you. From there you can pick your numbers or presets, press encode and it will do the rest. You'll end up with video encoded with x264, audio encoded with Nero AAC, all muxed into an MP4 container. Know x264 inside and out? There's a tab where you can edit the command-line directly. Overall a very simple and solid encoder.


RipBot264
Another very solid encoder with a lot of great features. RipBot's advantages are its easy to use interface and its built in Avisynth editor. It also has support for presets, though the ones included should be all you need. It'll tell you which programs it needs, but downloading Avisynth and the latest version of CCCP should cover it.


Hand Brake
Hand Brake isn't my favourite encoder, but the advantage it has over other encoders is that it's multiplatform. You can install it on Windows, Linux, and Mac OS, so it makes a pretty good combo with Avidemux. Its interface isn't the greatest, but it doesn't take long to figure out and it gets the job done, so it's worth checking out. The website also has a user's manual, so you can check that out if you get stuck with something or you'd like to know how to use it better.


MediaCoder
MediaCoder had its day in the sun back when we were lacking awareness of better encoders, but that's over now. Before, we recommended an older "stable" version over newer releases, the disadvantage being you'd have to use outdated codecs. If you wanted to use the newer versions, you'd have to deal with MediaCoder's bullshit, namely crashes or incomplete encodes. There are no stable versions nowadays, and if you want to use this program it's unfortunately recommended that you use the latest build. I guess it's handy for batch encoding audio, however, I don't recommend using MediaCoder at all for your final video encodes. If you have any problems with MediaCoder, I will recommend that you use one of the encoders listed above.


CCCP - Combined Community Codec Pack
Last Update: November 11, 2011
Not a codec pack as much as a combination of Haali Media Splitter, ffdshow tryouts, VSFilter, and Media Player Classic Home Cinema with good configurations. You'll be able to play any modern video file with MPC, so leave VLC for the odd formats that no one uses anymore (or don't use it at all).


Lagarith
The current recommended lossless codec. Use this codec as an intermediate to edit your video before making your final encode to prevent quality loss.


UT Video Codec Suite (author's blog)
Another lossless codec that gives good speed and compression. Has 32 and 64-bit versions and is updated fairly often.


Nero AAC Codec (alternate download)
An excellent AAC encoder. If you have any problems with FAAC, this is the codec to use.






Irfanview
An excellent image program that has an incredible amount of useful features. Notable ones include opening almost any image format, basic image editing, batch resize and rename, screen/window capture, and plugin support.


Paint.NET
A really nice MSPaint replacement that is feature rich, easy to use, and includes plugin support.


GIMP
The go-to free Photoshop replacement. However, its GUI isn't that great and it's slow at handling complex tasks.


ImageMagick
A very powerful command-line image editor. Once you figure out how to use it, you can do some very cool stuff with it. Read the extensive documentation on the site to find out how.






MediaInfo
A really handy program if you need to know information about a video file. Once installed, all you have to do is right click on a video file and click MediaInfo. It'll give you the skinny on the bitrates used for the video and audio, dimensions, length, format, codecs used, etc. You can even choose the way it presents the information to you. It's built into the latest versions of Media Player Classic nowadays, and it's included with most encoding programs, but I like keeping the standalone install just for the right click menu option.


RightLoad
An essential program for anyone in need of batch uploading a ton of screenshots. Has an easy to use interface, right click menu options, plugins for multiple image hosts, options for adding tags for easy posting, and a whole lot more. Even if you aren't uploading a ton of screenshots, it makes uploading images to just post anywhere really easy.


Rad Video Tools
If you have cutscene videos that are .BIK or .SMK files, this program will let you convert them into easy to edit .AVI files.


QTIndexSwapper
Use this if your videos won't play until they completely buffer on your own hosting. It will move the index in your video file so flash will stream it properly. Requires Adobe Air, which is also free, so it's no big deal.

MEAT! fucked around with this message at Jun 15, 2012 around 01:09

pokecapn
Oct 17, 2003

yeah, galo sengen

It's worth pointing out that AverMedia has several devices specifically targeted towards people who want to record and/or stream game footage, Hauppage has a desktop card called the Colossus that's basically a souped up version of the HD-PVR, and I believe both companies sponsor gaming tournaments and streams, so they both put their money where their mouth is. I'm not really sure why you still have old-rear end SD devices that haven't been sold for years listed as recommendations.

BreakTargets
Apr 5, 2009

Just a random Spiral Knight...


MEAT! posted:

Encoding Two-Pass h.264/mp4 with MeGUI and x264
Aleksei Vasiliev's basics to encoding with MeGUI. It's the best thing we got for now.
Recommended


Deinterlacing with MeGUI
Aleksei Vasiliev's guide on how to use MeGUI's built in deinterlacing detection. He's not certain on how it will handle different sources, but it'll do for now.
Recommended

The website for both of these guides are down.

MEAT!
Mar 18, 2008



pokecapn posted:

It's worth pointing out that AverMedia has several devices specifically targeted towards people who want to record and/or stream game footage, Hauppage has a desktop card called the Colossus that's basically a souped up version of the HD-PVR, and I believe both companies sponsor gaming tournaments and streams, so they both put their money where their mouth is.

I'll get up to date on AverMedia's new line up soon. Thanks for the heads up.

pokecapn posted:

I'm not really sure why you still have old-rear end SD devices that haven't been sold for years listed as recommendations.

They weren't really recommendations so much as a 'these are the things that are out there and you should or should not use them'. It's been a very long time since anyone's heard of anyone using a gamebridge though, so yeah, removed. Again, just became aware of AverMedia's new line up, so I removed the USB Gold.

BreakTargets posted:

The website for both of these guides are down.

Thought Aleksei put those back up at one point. Guess not. Thanks.


The new quote system will take getting used to...

Mico
Jan 28, 2011

I call it Meowthstep.


We should really have a bolded "dont avisource an avs file, use import instead" message in the op somewhere.

MEAT!
Mar 18, 2008



I'll bold it in the OP under the AviSynth tutorial.

Xenoveritas
May 9, 2010


That's not going to help, the problem is that people get weird MeGUI errors and ask why their script doesn't work. The answer is almost always they AviSourced an AVS when they should have Imported it. So I guess it should be something like: "If your AVS fails in MeGUI, check to make sure you haven't used AviSource on any AVS files."

I dunno. The problem really only rises when people go to encode in MeGUI, so most people assume the problem is in MeGUI because (for the most part) the AVS script will work elsewhere.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011



The links in the OP link to the old thread, as well as Vicas's AviSynth guide, pokecapn's HD-PVR guide, and Phiggle's AviSynth animations guide. I just want to make sure we don't lose them when the old thread gets archived.

Belgaer
Feb 25, 2009

The sun's going to shine down on this county again tomorrow. One more big lie, another bunch of ruined lives. But at least the weather's nice.


I'd be happy to host them in the interim, if needed.

Mush Man
Jun 25, 2010

Nintendo announces
Project Funké.


I wrote up cool guides on how to get VirtualDub to open other video formats with Avisynth and how to convert your video between formats in the last thread but I don't think anyone saw them. They're available here. Are they good enough for the OP?

movax
Aug 30, 2008



If you guys IRC, #darkhold on Rizon can be a good resource. Lot of authors of the tools in the OP hang out there. Fair warning though, we're bitter old anime/video/scene () encoders so the channel tone can go rear end in a top hat pretty quick (so, just like SA I guess).

MEAT!
Mar 18, 2008



Suspicious Dish posted:

The links in the OP link to the old thread.

I'll get around to archiving them real soon, so no worries.

Mush Man posted:

I wrote up cool guides on how to get VirtualDub to open other video formats with Avisynth and how to convert your video between formats in the last thread but I don't think anyone saw them.

Sorry I missed this the first time around. I'll take a look at it.

movax posted:

If you guys IRC, #darkhold on Rizon can be a good resource.

Thanks movax I might pop in if I have questions.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Fuck you Nintendo


I'm having issues with my blackmagic intensity pro capture card. It refuses to detect my PS3, despite using component cables(and switching my PS3 to read off component of course)and making double sure that I plugged everything correctly into the breaker cable that came with the card. Any ideas?

Edit: I'm also running Windows 7, if that makes any difference.

MEAT!
Mar 18, 2008



TaurusOxford posted:

I'm having issues with my blackmagic intensity pro capture card. It refuses to detect my PS3, despite using component cables(and switching my PS3 to read off component of course)and making double sure that I plugged everything correctly into the breaker cable that came with the card. Any ideas?

Edit: I'm also running Windows 7, if that makes any difference.

Are you hooking it up to your PC's USB 3.0 port?

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Fuck you Nintendo


MEAT! posted:

Are you hooking it up to your PC's USB 3.0 port?

I have the internal capture card.

supergreatfriend
Oct 16, 2008

ask me about
COFFEE


TaurusOxford posted:

I'm having issues with my blackmagic intensity pro capture card. It refuses to detect my PS3, despite using component cables(and switching my PS3 to read off component of course)and making double sure that I plugged everything correctly into the breaker cable that came with the card. Any ideas?

Edit: I'm also running Windows 7, if that makes any difference.

Does the resolution/refresh rate on the capture program match what the PS3's set to?

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Fuck you Nintendo


supergreatfriend posted:

Does the resolution/refresh rate on the capture program match what the PS3's set to?

Yes it did. I had both the program and the PS3 set to 720p.

Mico
Jan 28, 2011

I call it Meowthstep.


TaurusOxford posted:

Yes it did. I had both the program and the PS3 set to 720p.

But what's the framerate? 59.94?

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Fuck you Nintendo


Mico posted:

But what's the framerate? 59.94?

Yes.

Skippy Granola
Sep 3, 2011

Callipygian

Hey guys, MEGUI is moving really sluggishly lately.

Here's the score:

I have a 30fps FRAPS input file at 720p, edited in AVSPmod thusly:

code:
AVISource("C:\Users\Mark\Documents\LP\rage 2012-05-20 00-31-59-26.avi")
mbtv=trim(0,4672)++changespeed(trim(4672,6492),4)++fadeout(trim(6492,39729),30)++dissolve(fadein(trim(42353,49998),30),trim(53517,56854),15)
settler=subtitle(fadeio(trim(57036,59348),30),"Settler Postal",50,595,0,200,"ManEater BB",36,$FF0000,$000000)
bandit=subtitle(fadeio(trim(60102,64565),30),"Bandit Postal",50,595,0,200,"ManEater BB",36,$FF0000,$000000)
northern=subtitle(fadeio(trim(65289,71720),30),"Northern Express",50,595,0,200,"ManEater BB",36,$FF0000,$000000)
end=fadeio(trim(71902,72509),30)

video=mbtv++settler++bandit++northern++end++blankclip(120,1280,720,"RGB32",30,1,44100,TRUE,TRUE,$000000)

audio=WAVSource("C:\Users\Mark\Documents\LP\Rage Part 5 Game Audio and Commentary.wav")
audiodub(video,audio)


#Author: Nidoking
function ChangeSpeed(clip c, float rate)
{
  orig = FrameRate(c)
  newvid = AssumeFPS(c, orig * rate)
  return ChangeFPS(newvid, c).AudioDub(c.TimeStretch(tempo=100*rate))
}

ConvertToYV12()
Basically nothing different from what I've done before.

I'm encoding at an x264 2-pass, with a bitrate of 2000 and a setting of Slow, again the same as basically every video I've done.

I left it to encode overnight, and when I got home it had been running for something like 16 hours at 0.99 fps, and was still only half done. The readout was expecting a 500mb file.

Any ideas why it's moving at a snail's pace?

Mastigophoran
Feb 19, 2011

Not exactly immortal...
but close enough


Skippy Granola posted:

Any ideas why it's moving at a snail's pace?

Is it still actually encoding frames, or is it just sitting there?

supergreatfriend
Oct 16, 2008

ask me about
COFFEE



You mentioned that you set the PS3 to output component, have you switched the Blackmagic Control Panel from HDMI input to component?

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Fuck you Nintendo


supergreatfriend posted:

You mentioned that you set the PS3 to output component, have you switched the Blackmagic Control Panel from HDMI input to component?

Where do I do that too? I have version 3.1 of Media Express, and i'm not seeing anything like that in preferences.

supergreatfriend
Oct 16, 2008

ask me about
COFFEE


TaurusOxford posted:

Where do I do that too? I have version 3.1 of Media Express, and i'm not seeing anything like that in preferences.

In Windows Control Panel, there's an icon for Blackmagic Control Panel. It's separate from the capture program.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Fuck you Nintendo


Hell yes, it works perfectly now. Thanks everyone.

Skippy Granola
Sep 3, 2011

Callipygian

Mastigophoran posted:

Is it still actually encoding frames, or is it just sitting there?

I decided to give it another shot, closed down some background programs that I'd forgotten about, and the first pass is running at 33 fps, which is normal for me. I wonder if there was something in the background competing for processor time.

Magnetic North
Dec 14, 2008

Which way is magnetic north?


Win 7 64-Bit. Virtual Dub. AviSynth.

I'm putting together another SMB race video, and everything was fine until I encode it. When I view the final file, it seems to wait for about 40 frames to start up, and this is causing a noticable audio desync. At least, I think that's what's causing it. It's blank if you play it, and if you reverse through it, it just holds the first frame, so it's probably missing information, similar to the IFrame crap we had in the old fort.

My script is:

pre:
LoadCPlugin("C:\Program Files (x86)\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\ffms2.dll")
Import("C:\Program Files (x86)\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\FFMS2.avsi")
function CCSource(string filename) {
    return FFMpegSource2(filename, vtrack=-1, atrack=-1).ChangeFPS(30)
}

L1 =IMPORT("L-L1.AVS")
V1 =IMPORT("V-L1.AVS")
AUDIO =WAVSOURCE("L1AUDTRIM.WAV")

TRIM(AUDIODUB(STACKHORIZONTAL(L1,V1),AUDIO).ShowTime(offset_f=-1182, y=30, font="Upheaval TT BRK", size=30, text_color=$FFFFFF),0,11383)
Each AVS is just a trim and some subtitles.

The problem is not the frame rate and it works when viewing the script in VDub before encoding. I am encoding at h.264, 3000 bitrate, single pass. (Haven't learned how to do two pass with this mode yet, and I don't know if that's the cause or not.)

Any idea why this might be happening? I suppose I could recajigger it against this 40 frame bit, but who knows if it will remain that size when we change it, and I would like to not have to adjust these videos themselves, since the timing is perfect already, at lease before the encode.

e: Probably should have tried XVid before posting, but people hate it so I'm trying to not use it. XVid worked fine, so it must be the h.264 somehow. For this video it will be fine, but I am curious about the cause of this problem, if it can be discerned.

Magnetic North fucked around with this message at May 23, 2012 around 01:50

Mastigophoran
Feb 19, 2011

Not exactly immortal...
but close enough


Skippy Granola posted:

I decided to give it another shot, closed down some background programs that I'd forgotten about, and the first pass is running at 33 fps, which is normal for me. I wonder if there was something in the background competing for processor time.

I think a couple of times I've had videos with some variation of those change speed functions being used in them occasionally have MeGUI just stop encoding halfway through without any actual error message from MeGUI or avisynth. It just kind of sits there, doing nothing, not encoding any additional frames. Restarting the job has solved that problem every time so far, so, hopefully doing the same here will yield similar results.

The frame numbers that are being sped up in your video didn't correspond to being half way through though, so I figured I would ask.


Magnetic North posted:

Any idea why this might be happening?

Since the encoder you're using is apparently making a difference, the settings of said encoder may well do so too, so, it's probably a good idea to specify exactly what it is you're using and how you have it set up. I mean, I guess, maybe are you suggesting that you're encoding to h.264 with Virtual Dub?

Nidoking
Jan 27, 2009

I fought the lava, and the lava won.


Magnetic North posted:

Win 7 64-Bit. Virtual Dub. AviSynth.

Something that often works for me is transcoding to Lagarith with uncompressed audio, which will generate a HUGE file but should give you a lossless copy of the final product you want, then transcoding from that to your desired format. If it's something weird about how it's reading the Avisynth script, that may fix it. The other obvious suggestion is to try MeGUI for your H.264 encoding. I don't know anything about VDub having the capacity to encode in H.264, so that may well be the problem.

Mico
Jan 28, 2011

I call it Meowthstep.


Nidoking posted:

Something that often works for me is transcoding to Lagarith with uncompressed audio, which will generate a HUGE file but should give you a lossless copy of the final product you want, then transcoding from that to your desired format. If it's something weird about how it's reading the Avisynth script, that may fix it. The other obvious suggestion is to try MeGUI for your H.264 encoding. I don't know anything about VDub having the capacity to encode in H.264, so that may well be the problem.

This concept had never actually occured to me before so I've installed the Video For Windows version of h.264 and I'm testing a render with Virtualdub vs a render in MeGUI with the same settings to see if there's any differences.

Mico fucked around with this message at May 23, 2012 around 03:28

Mico
Jan 28, 2011

I call it Meowthstep.


The videos look identical, although the one vdub gave me is nearly triple the size of the one MeGUI gave me. With a CRF setting of 20 and slow, I was given a 230MB file by MeGUI and a 590MB file by VirtualDub.

But yeah both the videos work in MPC and VLC, so I'm not sure what's causing Magnetic North's problem.

BrainWeasel
May 8, 2007

I'll reattach your arm when I hit fucking Level 2!

Mico posted:

We should really have a bolded "dont avisource an avs file, use import instead" message in the op somewhere.

Out of curiosity, what sorts of errors does this cause?

BTW, if anyone tries using the record functionality of PSCX2, beware that the video gets recorded at 60 fps but the audio is timed for 59.94 fps. It's easy to fix in VDub (and you can decimate down to 29.97 at the same time and save some hard drive space) but you have to remember to do it.

Belgaer
Feb 25, 2009

The sun's going to shine down on this county again tomorrow. One more big lie, another bunch of ruined lives. But at least the weather's nice.


BrainWeasel posted:

Out of curiosity, what sorts of errors does this cause?

BTW, if anyone tries using the record functionality of PSCX2, beware that the video gets recorded at 60 fps but the audio is timed for 59.94 fps. It's easy to fix in VDub (and you can decimate down to 29.97 at the same time and save some hard drive space) but you have to remember to do it.

From personal experience, MPC and VLC will run it fine. MeGUI will take one look at it, tell you it isn't in the right ratio, guess the video has 5000 frames, so you get an encoding percentage bar of like, 3000%, and when it spits out a video, it will be almost, but not quite, exactly unlike the one you put in.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011



BrainWeasel posted:

Out of curiosity, what sorts of errors does this cause?

It will fail when encoding audio as FAAC, because MeGUI sets the VfW environment up wrong.

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Mega64
May 23, 2008


T'aar!
...me private shame!!



MEAT! posted:

Microsoft LifeChat LX-3000
The USB headset I currently own. A pretty comfortable set. The headphones completely wrap around your ears, which will cut out most ambient noise, so if you dig that these might be the phones for you. If that's the sort of thing you hate, look for something else, I guess. The mic is on a flexible wire, so you can stick it in your mouth for maximum mouth breathing if you wish. It has the same control box as the clearchat, except this one is quite a bit bigger. It has the same buttons as the clearchat (volume up/down, mic mute) plus a button in the middle for microsoft's lifechat software or something, which you'll probably never use. I know I don't. It's a good quality headset that I like quite a bit. You can also probably find it on sale somewhere for 30 bucks.

Is this still a good USB headset to get? I'm looking for a cheap, quality USB headset, but I'm wondering if there's any better or cheaper out there.

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