Dragon's Dogma: Grapple a Griffin, Slay a Cyclops, Climb a Cow, Pitch a Pig

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sicDaniel: May 10, 2009

I have played this game for a million hours and never gave a gift to any NPC ever. And, I agree, Simones single quest apppears so early in the game and is so weird and unexplained that it is absolutely impossible to 'accidentally' get her as a love interest. Because you definitely need a guide in order to complete this quest in the best possible way, and if you are already using a guide why would you willfully ignore all the other NPC quests, or why would you give gifts to Simone, I don't get it.

Well I actually got Selene in my very first playthrough but I skipped all those cutscenes because I wanted to kill more big monster so it never occured to me what was actually happening.

# ? Aug 18, 2014 18:55

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# ? Apr 24, 2024 21:28

see you tomorrow: Jun 27, 2009

Someone find the posts in this thread by the guy who got Symone and totally freaked out about it

# ? Aug 18, 2014 19:05

Genocyber: Jun 4, 2012

It's really difficult to get one of the children as a Beloved. Simone's affection is maxed if you do her quest properly, but that's available fairly early on, so even if you do max hers you're extremely likely to max out one of the main love interests like the Duchess or Madeleine, or failing that Caxton._{_{_{they're masterworks all}}}

# ? Aug 18, 2014 19:10

im cute: Sep 21, 2009

Grandmother of Five posted:

So I've finally gotten around to completing Dragon's Dogma and most of the expansion and I've liked it enough that I've decided to do a walkthrough/FAQ on an aspect of the game that I think is a bit confusing and which might help people out. I realize I'm a bit late to the Dragon's Dogma party, having only played the game after it becoming a Playstation Plus freebie title, but this thread seems to be going strong still, and if the OP happens to find the Walkthrough/FAQ useful, adding it to the OP would be OK with me. I don't wish to derail this thread, so any suggestions, concerns and comments on the Walkthrough/FAQ can be taken to PMs, required someone buys me that forums upgrade.

DRAGON'S DOGMA

HOW NOT TO BE A PAEDOPHILE

WALKTHROUGH AND FAQ

INTRO

Dragon's Dogma is a fun game where you get to kill a lot of cool monsters and then sometime during the end-game you may be shoehorned into a romantic relationship with a child. If fighting against cool monsters sounds like fun, but you would rather not be shoehorned into a romantic relationship with, say, a child who by game lore is supposed to be 14 years old because that is the age of consent in Japan or whatever, but actually looks and act like 10-12, as if 14 wasn't hosed up enough, then this walk-through is for you.

WHAT?

Dragon's Dogma has an objectively dull romance system which picks a romantic interest for your character sometime during the end-game. This pick is based solely on whichever NPC has the highest affinity for you, with basically every single non-hostile NPC in the entire gameworld being eligible, including children. Affinity is raised by either giving someone a gift or by completing quests, neither of these actions are inherently romantic in nature and you might just be surprised that a side-quest where you help a powerful merchant babysit his child for a few hours, playing a game of hide and seek and catch, is considered as the player showing romantic interest in a child. Rightfully ignoring the romance system entirely, a romantic interest will still be chosen, and a relatively small pool of central quest givers and NPCs with multiple side-quests related to them, will most likely be chosen as the unavoidable romantic interest, at least two of these characters, being children.

HOW TO AVOID YOUR UNAVOIDABLE ROMANTIC INTEREST BEING ONE OF THE CHILD-CHARACTERS

Do not give any kind of gift to a child-character, ever. Make any one non-child NPC in the game like you to the point where they start blushing when you see them, most easily done by completing a bunch of Core and Side-quests for a central character. The items which are suitable for gifting will also state in their item description who favours them, so simply give these to appropriate non-child characters: Congratulations you will now probably not be shoe-horned into having a child as your romantic interest.

Q: The possibility of the romance system selecting a child to be the romantic interest of the player character is an unintended oversight of the romance system.

A: No. At least two children which are able to become the PCs romantic interest have unique lines that only appears in this situation.

Q: In some countries the age of legal consent is lower than 21, 18, 16, 14, or whatever, and is even completely absent in some cultures.

A: hosed up if true.

Q: Caring about the possibility of romancing a bunch of pixels sounds pretty SJW tumbleresque, doesn't it?

A: Idiot bitch retard human being friend of the family.

Q: If I would rather not have my PC waking up in his bed with a child hovering above him, are there any particular NPC who I should raise the affinity of instead of the child NPCs?

A: Here is a handy list of reasonable non-children to befriend.

Blondeknight: Pros: Pretty and clearly of age, his preferred gift is pies which are cheap and plentiful.

Ladyknight: Pros: Pretty and clearly of age. She has lot of core and side quests available so she will probably end up liking you even if you ignore her completely outside of quests. The same goes for nearly every single female NPC in the entire game-world who takes directly part in any single quest.

Madeline: Pros: Uh-huh-huh-huh. Uh-huh-huh-huh-huh. Is not a child. Is a merchant. Cons: Everything else.

Every single merchant: Pro: Merchants are the only characters that it is really worthwhile to raise the affinity of. Raising the affinity of whichever one sells the best gear for your class is especially nice. CONS: Some of the merchants are married couples and you may feel like a jerk by breaking them up.

Banditmaleguy: Pros: Sort of maybe helpful in a side-quest or two and is easily impressed by skulls, which are plentiful and cheap trash items that he loves. Is most definitely not a child. Cons: Located a bit out of the way.

Banditfemale: Same as above, but is a bother to deal with if your PC is male and especially if he has a beard, as you'll have to wear a disguise (a pretty dress) and/or lose your beard temporarily and may become involved in a questline that is more problematic than the ending to the original Ace Ventura: Pet Detective.

Just about every single throwaway character in the entire game-world: Pros: Any random, throwaway male NPC is easily impressed by being gifted fish and meats, as a man's heart is best reached through his stomach, and any female NPC is easily wooed by gifting her flowers, as bitches loves flowers. Cons: You'll probably never be able to find these characters more than once as they are completely forgettable, but you wont have any good reason to want to either.

Q: Selene is not a child, but some kind of magical creature, probably, but she is old for sure, and extremely sexy with her after 2000 years of life on this gay earth still-developing breasts, pig tails haircut and completely demure, submissive personality.

A: If it walks like a child, talks like a child and looks like a child, please try not to gently caress it.

It's easy to wind up with Symone if you abuse gifts to get an easy Golden Idol. Tempting, but not worth it. The only way to set her straight after that is to throw that little trust fund baby down a flight of stairs or two, which are conveniently located behind her house.

# ? Aug 18, 2014 20:37

Nihilarian: Oct 2, 2013

paco650 posted:

It's easy to wind up with Symone if you abuse gifts to get an easy Golden Idol. Tempting, but not worth it. The only way to set her straight after that is to throw that little trust fund baby down a flight of stairs or two, which are conveniently located behind her house.

There's an item that sets affection to zero in BBI, as well.

# ? Aug 18, 2014 20:56

CJacobs: Apr 17, 2011; Reach for the moon!

It's good to know on the inside that Grandmother of Five wrote that guide because he ended up with one of the children instead of Mercedes/that jew lady and then got really salty about it.

Real Arisens go for Fournival either way.

# ? Aug 18, 2014 21:10

A Real Happy Camper: Dec 11, 2007; These children have taught me how to believe.

An easy way to make sure you don't romance a kid is to throw them off cliffs whenever possible

# ? Aug 18, 2014 21:23

Gildiss: Aug 24, 2010; Grimey Drawer

CJacobs posted:

It's good to know on the inside that Grandmother of Five wrote that guide because he ended up with one of the children instead of Mercedes/that jew lady and then got really salty about it.

Real Arisens go for Fournival either way.

Team Berne. Because he is the closest we get to romancing Grigori :smaug:

# ? Aug 18, 2014 21:30

Nahxela: Oct 11, 2008; Execution

Captain Novolin posted:

An easy way to make sure you don't romance a kid is to throw them off cliffs whenever possible

I sometimes do this to wandering pawns. Not really sure why.

One time I picked up a Cassardis NPC and threw him into the water. He stood up and blankly stared at me as the brine took him away.

# ? Aug 19, 2014 03:15

a kitten: Aug 5, 2006

I don't actually know if it affects their disposition or not, but I may have chucked everyone I could get my hands on in Gran Soren into the Pit and it got funnier with every one. :haw:

# ? Aug 19, 2014 03:23

Fhqwhgads: Jul 18, 2003; I AM THE ONLY ONE IN THIS GAME WHO GETS LAID

a kitten posted:

I don't actually know if it affects their disposition or not, but I may have chucked everyone I could get my hands on in Gran Soren into the Pit and it got funnier with every one.

When you do this do they just keep falling and looping indefinitely?

# ? Aug 19, 2014 03:30

Nahxela: Oct 11, 2008; Execution

Unfortunately, no. They just disappear.

# ? Aug 19, 2014 03:31

a kitten: Aug 5, 2006

poo poo I can't believe I never thought to try this: can you jump in while carrying someone? They might loop with you in that case.

# ? Aug 19, 2014 03:51

Rubellavator: Aug 16, 2007

Make your Arisen into a child also and all your silly moral problems will go away.

# ? Aug 19, 2014 04:03

CJacobs: Apr 17, 2011; Reach for the moon!

Make your Arisen be a slider copy of Fournival and then hook up with Fournival.

# ? Aug 19, 2014 10:04

im cute: Sep 21, 2009

CJacobs posted:

Make your Arisen be a slider copy of Fournival and then hook up with Fournival.

Yeah. I mean, who knows what Fournival likes better... than Fournival?

# ? Aug 19, 2014 18:20

Rubellavator: Aug 16, 2007

gently caress Griffins

# ? Aug 21, 2014 02:43

Nahxela: Oct 11, 2008; Execution

argondamn posted:

gently caress Griffins

paco650 posted:

Yeah. I mean, who knows what Fournival likes better... than Fournival?

Gold?

# ? Aug 21, 2014 02:50

work the balls Sally: Feb 20, 2006; Even as you read this, I'm masturbating to my own post.

I recently finished a playthrough and did the post game content. I was a bad rear end warrior or something, my pawn was a mage. No matter what her inclination was, she always seemed very underwhelming, hardly casted anything cool and was simply carried through the entire game by myself and the other pawns.

I've started the game over as I enjoyed the hell out of it, only this time I reversed the roles. I'm the mage, she being a strider. Holy gently caress is magic using boring, but her? She has become infinitely better at everything. She uses bow skills, climbs hydras, does everything so right I sometimes forget she is AI. Strider pawns loving own.

# ? Aug 21, 2014 03:11

Nahxela: Oct 11, 2008; Execution

Here is the secret. If you want to do cool magic things, you shouldn't play a mage. They have the most boring magic. Go to an advanced or hybrid class to get cool magic.

Sometimes it does become a situation where you keep jumping around and cancelling out a spell because you keep getting followed, but there are a lot of neat spells outside of what mages can do.

# ? Aug 21, 2014 03:16

im cute: Sep 21, 2009

Nahxela posted:

Here is the secret. If you want to do cool magic things, you shouldn't play a mage. They have the most boring magic. Go to an advanced or hybrid class to get cool magic.

Sometimes it does become a situation where you keep jumping around and cancelling out a spell because you keep getting followed, but there are a lot of neat spells outside of what mages can do.

MKs and MAs each have their own special debuff they can cast off of staves (Sleep and Curse respectively, if I remember right). All they had to do was trade away the ability to heal, and I mean, who needs healing, really? You'd be surprised just how many troublesome enemies just need to take a little nap.

Ironic Porn Rental posted:

I recently finished a playthrough and did the post game content. I was a bad rear end warrior or something, my pawn was a mage. No matter what her inclination was, she always seemed very underwhelming, hardly casted anything cool and was simply carried through the entire game by myself and the other pawns.

I've started the game over as I enjoyed the hell out of it, only this time I reversed the roles. I'm the mage, she being a strider. Holy gently caress is magic using boring, but her? She has become infinitely better at everything. She uses bow skills, climbs hydras, does everything so right I sometimes forget she is AI. Strider pawns loving own.

Mage pawns can be finnicky, especially if you try sticking them with a bunch of cool-looking offensive spells, because deep in their little mage pawn hearts, all they want to do is heal and buff and run around until someone else needs healing and buffing. I had similar problems that you did, until I stuck a bunch of utility spells and a single piddly High Levin on her and set her up with Utilitarian/Medicant. She didn't cast anything much cooler than High Grapnel or High Levin, but the party never went without enchantments, maxed health or Spellscreen. Eventually gave her a gold-rarified Legion's Might and called it a day.

im cute fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Aug 21, 2014

# ? Aug 21, 2014 05:17

Cometa Rossa: Oct 23, 2008; I would crawl ass-naked over a sea of broken glass just to kiss a dick

I've got a BBI Weapon Lv.3 for anyone who can throw a Bone Lantern my way. My GT is Gulag Boy and my pawn is Voss.

e: never mind I found one so if you want a Lv.3 or RC or whatever just give me a shout and I'll hook you up

Cometa Rossa fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Aug 22, 2014

# ? Aug 22, 2014 19:40

work the balls Sally: Feb 20, 2006; Even as you read this, I'm masturbating to my own post.

Can someone hook me up with some rift crystals? Just hit BBI and between repairing rift stones and trying to get my pawns inclination to something useful I have no more crystal to remove the curse from all my new loot.

GT: Danky Kang 64 pawns name is healbot

# ? Aug 26, 2014 00:18

im cute: Sep 21, 2009

Ironic Porn Rental posted:

Can someone hook me up with some rift crystals? Just hit BBI and between repairing rift stones and trying to get my pawns inclination to something useful I have no more crystal to remove the curse from all my new loot.

GT: Danky Kang 64 pawns name is healbot

What level? I can probably bring some lowbies along on some regular quests tomorrow, or another BBI 2.0 run if they're leveled enough.

# ? Aug 26, 2014 00:25

work the balls Sally: Feb 20, 2006; Even as you read this, I'm masturbating to my own post.

paco650 posted:

What level? I can probably bring some lowbies along on some regular quests tomorrow, or another BBI 2.0 run if they're leveled enough.

Low 60s I think.

# ? Aug 26, 2014 01:34

BattleTech: Jun 6, 2010; Is this easy mode?; Fun Shoe

Ironic Porn Rental posted:

Can someone hook me up with some rift crystals? Just hit BBI and between repairing rift stones and trying to get my pawns inclination to something useful I have no more crystal to remove the curse from all my new loot.

GT: Danky Kang 64 pawns name is healbot

I'll grab you tonight and run you through some BBI v2.

# ? Aug 26, 2014 03:41

Gildiss: Aug 24, 2010; Grimey Drawer

This was posted in the LP thread.

Schwartzcough posted:

Sorry to bump to a dead thread, but Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen is on sale on PSN for $6.99 US (along with a bunch of other Capcom games. That's a pretty good price if someone was on the fence about it.

Dangan's Dogma sale. Get on the bus!

# ? Sep 19, 2014 00:00

Nahxela: Oct 11, 2008; Execution

The wind is pushing me.

http://www.kdramastars.com/articles/38151/20140917/dragons-dogma-2-confirmed.htm

# ? Sep 19, 2014 02:22

kirbysuperstar: Nov 11, 2012; Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

I don't know if I trust a Korean drama news site with no sources on this one. But I will hope.

# ? Sep 19, 2014 02:27

see you tomorrow: Jun 27, 2009

why are you doing this to me kdrama

# ? Sep 19, 2014 02:27

Nahxela: Oct 11, 2008; Execution

kirbysuperstar posted:

I don't know if I trust a Korean drama news site with no sources on this one. But I will hope.

Just don't forget to drink your iodine.

# ? Sep 19, 2014 02:32

Fereydun: May 9, 2008

kirbysuperstar posted:

I don't know if I trust a Korean drama news site with no sources on this one. But I will hope.

nah those guys just make poo poo up all the time like reporting dmc5 or whatever

# ? Sep 19, 2014 02:48

TescoBag: Dec 2, 2009; Oh god, not again.

It is all click bait as much as I hate to admit it

# ? Sep 19, 2014 03:14

Oo Koo: Nov 19, 2012

Has anyone messed with save game editing on the ps3? I've pretty much played the game to death and only load it up occasionally to play dress-up. And it'd be nice to just cheat in all of the rare bitterblack/online ur-dragon drops for dress-up purposes without having to grind cursed gear or deal with actually fighting the online ur-dragon. So if anyone could write a quick tutorial, that'd be swell.

Edit: Also being able to nerf my own stats would be nice, so I could enjoy the base game while wearing whatever outfit cobbled together from my massive gear inventory without steamrolling everything.

Oo Koo fucked around with this message at 13:55 on Sep 19, 2014

# ? Sep 19, 2014 13:48

dahkren: Jan 11, 2006

Anyone still playing this? Picked it up during the sale a few weeks ago and it's loving great.

I'm just working through BBI now. I'm a little worried about the damage I'm doing though, I'm using heavenly dagger things from offline Ur-Dragon (dragonforged) and a fighter pawn I hired does way more damage per hit than I do with hundred kisses (I'm a ranger). Not sure if maybe that's just a side effect of doing way more hits in a given time span or maybe he just has a really good weapon?

If anyone is still playing and wants to hire a pawn I'd love some RC.. I'm on PSN as Dahkren, Pawn is Miri. She is level.. 110 or something. Scather with the holy enchanment and random damage spells (miasma, ingle, comestion) and terrible equipment.

# ? Oct 12, 2014 18:13

Genocyber: Jun 4, 2012

You might have poor stats. Due to how defense works, you need to do a bit of min/maxing to kill stuff if you're not overleveled. If your damage is even a single point lower than the enemy's defense, it will be reduced immensely. If it it just a single point higher, it will barely be reduced at all. If you kept Fournival alive, go and buy as many Conqueror's Periapts as you can, and use 4 at a single time. You can have up to 4 buffs and same buffs will stack, and using 4 will boost your strength to ~200%, which should allow you to challenge most enemies on BBI.

# ? Oct 12, 2014 18:25

dahkren: Jan 11, 2006

Yea I read about the min-maxing stuff after I was most of the way through the game and just said whatever to it, so I've just been ranger since level 17. Upgrading my heavens kiss to silver dragonforged made a huge difference, really need to find a better bow and upgrade that. I sort of hate climbing, especially the dragons, but my bow doesn't do great damage unless I'm using great gamble.

Finished up BBI first run, was pretty fun. Final boss was kind of a joke but I'm fairly overlevelled for him I suppose. Second run through should be fun.

# ? Oct 12, 2014 21:49

Nahxela: Oct 11, 2008; Execution

If you want to add another huge source of damage, you can knock your arrows with blast arrows. While it might be inconvenient to maintain a regular stock of them, they can be pretty ridiculous.

Also, cycle one of BBI ain't no thing. Second cycle is where things get real (at least moreso than cycle one).

# ? Oct 12, 2014 21:59

dahkren: Jan 11, 2006

Yeh I use blast arrows on the Ur-Dragon wings just to get them outta the way.

Also, gently caress Strigoi. Great game.

# ? Oct 13, 2014 02:21

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# ? Apr 24, 2024 21:28

2house2fly: Nov 14, 2012; You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

After a few false starts I finally got around to properly playing this game a few weeks ago, and I'm having an absolute blast. I just recently fought Grigori, in a boss battle that was so great I'm actually annoyed that the game's weird save file thing means I can't go back and play it whenever I want, and now I'm slowly but surely working my way through Bitterblack Isle. My party just got curbstomped by Death in the Bloodless Stockade and I had to Liftstone out of there, but I found a supremely powerful magic bow which means I'll have less trouble next time. I also tool around Gransys every now and then to get some of my stuff dragonforged by any passing wyrms I happen to find. I've basically run out of non-Bitterblack stuff to do at this point though, and I feel a bit sad that soon it's going to be time to turn in the final quest and (hopefully) bring back blue skies and normal goblins to Gransys. It's that rare game that's so good you don't want it to end.

# ? Oct 24, 2014 05:49

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