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Shardok
Jan 12, 2009
A quick note on encumbrance. The guide actually lies to you at first. On page 38 it gives the real max weight amounts (which you'll notice makes S give 50 Kg instead of 40 Kg and makes L give only 75 Kg instead of the claimed 100 Kg. I noticed that earlier but forgot to mention it.

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Shardok
Jan 12, 2009
Also, I'm annoyed slightly. New thread, and now I need to go wait outside of Gamestop for 2 hours (I refuse to not have that game at 12:01!) If only I still had my PSP I could read and post in the thread while I wait... Too late to buy a PSP from Gamestop too, heh.

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009

Millions posted:

Is there any difference in stamina attributes for SS/S and L/LL that the guide mentions?

I suspect there is, but the guide doesn't say there is... Someone who already has it should make several characters and see (Note: The base stamina of a new character is 540 for all 3 classes. I already put the guide in my packback, so I don't know the rest, just remember that)

Also, if someone else who already has the game wants to take the screenshot, here's the recipe for Fanty (or Mingo) from Serenity.

Shardok posted:

(Note: The number is the number of notches. So far left would be 0, not 1) H 9/4. F 37/4/11. E 15/2/2/3/2/2. B 16/2/1/5. N 28/4/1. M 20/3. Ears 2/1/4.

S 4/1/11. M 0. T 7. A 8. L 7. Stance 3/2.

S 0. W 0. F 21/3. M 0


If anyone feels they can do a better Fanty or Mingo, please feel free to, this was as best as I could do with the time I used, although I know it isn't anywhere near perfect (i.e. Hair and beard aren't quite right because there's not much of an option there.)

I posted that in the old thread but never posted screenshots as I can't do anything about that right now... If ya take the screenshots, have the credit.

Shardok fucked around with this message at 05:50 on May 22, 2012

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009

Harlock posted:

This is double the price of the same DLC on 360.

That's terrible.

No... It's not. I bought that DLC for 160, which is $2...

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009
Well then. They're lying. As I bought it for 160 from the marketplace. The rift points and the DLC were both 80 though.

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009

Cassardis/Seabreeze Trail - Any level
Mountain Waycastle/Moonsbit Pass - 8
Vestad Hills - 10
Devilfire Grove (Except Drake) - 10
Wilted Forest - 12
Verda Woodlands - 15
Estan Plains - 15
Deos Hill/Northface Forest - 20
Windworn Valley/Cutlass Cape - 25
Cursewood - 30
Misamic Haunt - 30
Barta Crags - 30

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009
Step 1: Give pawn an item.
Step 2: Hope.
Step 3: Get annoyed pawn isn't healing itself.
Step 4: Use a bunch of items on yourself
Step 5: Watch the pawn learn to use items.
Step 6: Pawn uses item.

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009
Jasper can be found in the road leading into Noble Quarters, east of Fountain Square.

Anyone know about how long you're stuck in jail for if you A: Refuse to bribe the guards/or are poor. and B: Have no skeleton key?

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009
Do not read this. It will spoil the end times.

Beyond the Rift. Jump into pit near Fountain Square of Gran Soren. Fall to center. Repeat as necessary to land in various areas along the sides of the shaft. Gather 20 wakestones is your quest. Only do when ready for New Game+, can't turn back once you unlock the deeper secrets of this area. After completing Fathom Deep (The 20 wakestones quest) you will get Final Judgment quest if you jump in the well again. Then you fight big bad boss and then... Get an awesome item. Use the option it has and you start the New Game +.

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009

Killsion posted:

So I just did an escort for Mercedes to Shadow Fort. It is now night time, and there is no rest anywhere.I really don't want to go back out there...

Also has anyone managed to do Lost and Found? By the time I could actually handle Witchwood stuff it had failed...

Your choices are as follows: A: Man up and go out there. B: Wait in the fort for time to pass. C: Decide to quit this craziness of being The Arisen and settle down with Mercedes to start a family in Shadow Fort.

I finished that Lost & Found quest no problem... Was around level 15 at the time. Eventually... most NPCs will revive or you can find a wakestone and heal her if she doesn't, so yeah...

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009
Discipline Points are also shared between classes. So if you're already at max rank as Mage, may as well change to Sorcerer for a bit to get the free job points there to rank up, and then switch back to Mage (for free, as he already has it unlocked) to get the augments when ya need to.

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009

VDay posted:

Thought about doing that, but the offensive mage spells he has right now are too useful to give up. Part of the reason for getting the last two augments (besides the fact that they're awesome) is to smooth the transition over into sorcerer.

Some normal class skills are cross-class (i.e. Fire Boon being available to both Mage and Sorcerer) too. So he might just keep those. I do believe most of the basic damage/affinity/boon spells are available as Sorcerer too.

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009
Most shops will unlock new stuff after certain points in the storyline, as follows:

Stage 1: Start until Off With Its Head
Stage 2: Until First Wyrm Hunt Quest
Stage 3: Until Come to Court
Stage 4: Until Trials and Tribulations Or Griffin's Bane
Stage 5: Until Reward and Responsibility
Stage 6: Until The Final Battle
Stage 7: Until New Game +


In Gran Soren there are the following merchants:

Madeleine - After you finish her quest over in Cassardis. She'll have a wide array of items and even some decent armors/weapons/etc. Depending on what idol you give her in a different quest she'll unlock different items. Do not give her a forgery, you get practically nothing from it.
Reynard The Travelling Peddler - Good luck on finding him, I've yet to have any luck with the dude. He has a bunch of randomness too. Depending on what items you give him during his quest he'll unlock different items too.
Caxton's Armory - We all know him I presume. He has a quest like Madeleine for an idol. He unlocks different items than she does, so it's up to you there... I'm not listing all the differences here.
Camelia's Apothecary - Not much use.
Fournival Rarities Shop - Look for him at his manor or at the black cat or between the two depending on time of day. Save the Maker's Finger for something that's a real challenge. Maybe it works on Ur-Dragon... He has some armor as well depending on stage, but mostly he sells tools and curatives and ferrystones/wakestone shards.
Mountebank - He sells gold weapons that you've unlocked through quests. As well as some outfits. Also has skeleton keys and wakestone shards if ya need those. He's at the Black Cat.


Other than that, try exploring other areas of the world as some merchants are found in some weird places...

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009
Try leaving the town and re-entering. Also, just try sitting over and over.

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009
Okay... So... Vivi isn't black any more!? Also... He looks like a viking with that staff sticking up behind his hood.

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009
Dogbutt, add your pawn info here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjSfcATozBXidFB3ZVVQUDA2d2tfZElncXB4ZXk0OWc#gid=0

I pretty much only hire pawns from there (free pawn rental). If I wasn't using that I presume I would not have got enough RC to make my pawn Red. All red.

Also, for anyone that has finished Land of Opportunity, If ya buy the house, where the frell is it!? Thank ye kindly.

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009
Do not pick Reload from Last Checkpoint. Always pick the Retry option or just quit game and reload entirely. Both work. And your old saves should still exist right now if you quit game and reload.

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009
Captain's Armor Set was a Pre-order bonus and can also be bought for 2Bux from the DLC list.

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009
In Land of Opportunity, Where is my property/land/house in Gran Soren!? That family hasn't been keeping up with the rent and I want to go evict them!

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009
Pikey, rent Scarlet. Look closely at her. That's what you can do with Rift Crystals.

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009

futureproof posted:

You can give it to Madeleine. I think she has a shop in Gran Soren. I'm pretty sure that the idols don't actually give you anything new, you just get discounts.

When you give the idols for the quests you gain new items to buy from the shops. Other than that, they do just give discounts, and notably, a forgery of an idol gives the same discount as the real thing (though I don't recommend using it for either quest)

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009
Goons (at least 360 goons). Give your mages Halidom or High Halidom... The point of a mage is so I don't have to carry around any consumables, kinda wasted when I need to carry a bunch of panaceas and such around...

And stop saying you have one character per profile. You have one character per profile per save device. You should have more than one save device to use unless you both have a non-Gold account and a 360 without a main unit of any kind. Or in the case of PS3 users, I don't honestly know.

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009
It's part of the Post Game content. Everfall enemies will drop wakestones and such instead of normal drops or in addition, not sure.

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009
So... Portcrystals... I set it down just outside Bluemoon tower and then walked back to Gran Soren as I had forgot to bring my ferrystones. Fun walk... Now I'm on another quest and need to go there again, so thankful i left my port--- Why does it send me to Gran Soren!? Isn't there supposed to be an option or something? Anyone know what is being missed here...?

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009

Slore Tactician posted:

I was considering trading in some games at gamestop to pick this up today - does anyone know if there's a current list of trade in values?

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/cagomatic.php?do=tradein That's the best you'll find. Although you might also want to look at any trade in deals listed on the Gamestop website. I know they've got an extra trade in value for consoles going on right now, not sure what else.

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009

Jimbot posted:

Yeah. I'm far away so the feedback isn't that great. Maybe I wasn't strong enough or something because I kept hitting a big one on its back and it didn't seem to do nothing.

Do golems have crazy high magic resistances? I know they do have high resistance to everything except blunt weaponry.

From the guide. This is the percent of damage they take from it.

Blunt: 100%
Pierce: 60%
Every Element: 0%


Also, probably already said, but there was an update that finally gave us our first Special Pawns. No idea what they are yet, haven't checked.

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009

Zombie Defiler posted:

Did this include what you can get from cassardia, or just the ones you buy up north at the great wall?

Problem is I cant get ahold of whatever it is marked on my map in fishy town, I think maybe it requires some other quest I haven't completed.

I know I turned in...


All Reynard forgeries for Innocent. The Priest's. And escorted the guy. I failed to turn in Symone's as I sent it to get forged (wanted to test if you could make two of one and turn it in, then I noticed the severally small time limit (3 days) and after giving it to the guy and sleeping at the inn I immediately had to leave for work. Got back, and my first thought was *sleep at the inn to get Rift Crystals and such from my pawn* So when I left the next day <cutscene!>). But yeah, you can at least fail to turn in one of those and get it just fine.

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009

ThreeLeggedHyena posted:

Oh, well that's interesting..! I knew it sent the items back to their inventory, but I thought perhaps it copied them as a 'hey I know you're not going to get much RC, so here' pity thing. Still, a nice touch, sort of like the AI summons and invasions in Dark Souls.

Thing is, that GameFAQs statement is just based on guesswork, and honestly, I am more likely to believe it's the case of a pawn dying with stuff as opposed to this mystical "Computer simulated pawn rental". Unless they found a dev statement saying that, which they hadn't had last time it was stated...

ThreeLeggedHyena posted:

Yeah, the Trial seems to be heavily skewed toward buying/using the forged evidence. I got the petition from the guy in the castle, escorted the soldier, got the letter from the priest and document from the manor and mine still turned out guilty.

Only thing that really irritates me about the whole situation is that it makes it impossible to get a gold idol now, apparently? So I have to decide who gets the real silver and who gets the fake... hmn.

You're better off giving one of them a bronze one instead. Forged ones just piss them off.

Fonzarelli posted:

I heard somewhere that its one character per storage device? Does that mean my brother and I can't both have characters on different profiles and one has to saved on a USB or something?

One Character Per Storage Device Per Profile. It just isn't as quick to say sadly. The point is. For each storage device you have you can make 1 character for each profile. So, with 4 profiles and 2 storage devices, you have 8 character slots. With 8435 profiles and 1 storage device, you have 8435 character slots. With 1 profile and 12 storage devices, you have 12 character slots and a fuckton of hard drives/flash drives/etc.

Also, VDay, I doubt you'll be overly gimped by switching to Sorcerer or Mage, especially not Sorcerer given that they get such a high magic gain up to level 100. And even regardless, Assassin still has okay magic attack gain (2 as opposed to 5 for Sorc and 4 for Mage. But if you're really worried, you might want to just switch to Magic Knight for ~10 levels or so first, but that would really only make it take longer to really test out Sorcerer. Probably best to just become Sorcerer and mostly let your pawns do it, although what with the enemies still being normal weaklings, that isn't too necessary no doubt.

Shardok fucked around with this message at 10:45 on May 26, 2012

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009

Tempbot posted:

The manual states that when support pawns are forfeit items held "will be sent to item storage."

Yes, when forfeit, but what does it have to say about when your secondary pawns die in battle?

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009

Samurai Sanders posted:

Yeah, how inconsiderate of him to die in such an inconvenient way for you.

Regarding gathering evidence, are you saying that all the actually legit evidence there is isn't enough on its own, you have to use forgeries as well? This isn't a very nice fantasy RPG world is it...

I think this is because... Fournival is Guilty!

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009
So... Vivi decided to use Whirlwind (instead of being a moron and casting that aoe fire attack...) on the drake. It takes out a quarter of a life bar per hit. That's a lot of health gone Very fast.

Surprisingly it worked better than ice just because it lasted so much longer and was easier for it to hit its weak spot.

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009

Mindey Tyrone posted:

Dragon's Dogma Pawn Protip (DDPP): Give your Pawn a lantern and some oil. You will be thanked a lot for this when other people use your pawn!

Dragon's Dogma Pawn Even More Protip (DDPEMP): Pawns do not carry over any of the items they have in their inventory when used by other players. Only equipped items get carried over.

Dogbutt posted:

So, I got a Portcrystal and I don't know where I should put it. What would be the best place for it?

Edit: As in specifically, where would be the best place to put it so I don't have to travel to a certain place all the time? Like, a place that's really out of the way and I go there a lot. I just finished the Big Griffen Hunt and haven't really done any of the other quests (except the one with the princess). So where would be best

It is reusable. Pick up, place down, as much as ya want.

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009

Mindey Tyrone posted:

DDPEMMP - yeah huh!

I've always had my pawn carrying a spare Lantern and pickaxe. Neither of them has ever shown up for any of my friends who have rented my pawn. I've also asked them if they equip their pawns with such, and they state that they do, yet every time I rent them they have no pickaxe or lantern. Maybe this is a bug, what system are you on (I'm on 360)?

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009
So, I decided I'm gonna go fight the dragon, but first I want to know which status ailments work best, and which ones won't even work on it. Anyone with a guide mind posting those in a spoiler tag for me?

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009

Tufty posted:

Did I miss out on all the fun stuff of the post game? Somebody mentioned meeting a wyvern in the post-game overworld earlier but after beating the dragon I ferrystoned straight to Gran Soren and then fell into the Everfall. Did I miss out on equipment and quests up top? Can I ferrystone out again? Will I be able to go back up top after I beat the Everfall?

You missed nothing. No worries. Jump down further and then just keep falling until you hit sky. Then aim for the top right ledge and you should be able to grab on there and walk right into the pawn guild

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009

Judge Tesla posted:

It doesn't seem to matter who you give gifts too, they will be your love interest, age, gender, that doesn't matter here.

I got Symone... Fornival's daughter.

Also, to those fighting the Dragon... The other option gets a special cutscene and a game over. Sadly you have to fight the Dragon.

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009
Yeah, gifts aren't the Only way to raise affinity. I swear I didn't give my love interest a single gift... I just made her very happy in her One quest.

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009

Judge Tesla posted:

You did the save Selene quest in Witchwood, that automatically maxes out her Affinity, making her your Love Interest, basically, whoever gets grabbed by the dragon is your love interest, so get giving those gifts to your fave character.

That's really weird then as I did both Selene's quest and Symone's escort duty quest and Symone was the one I got in the cutscenes, however I was surprised to see that Both of them were at my house. I hadn't been there since I saved Selene, so I'm guessing she was there the whole time and I just didn't know it.

Shardok
Jan 12, 2009

ThreeLeggedHyena posted:

Ugh.. I haven't gotten to all this 'love interest' crap yet, I've been doing side quests and dorking around maxing classes hoping I could ignore it entirely.
Then I noticed the pink hilarious glow around the innkeeper...
Is there any way to LOWER affinity so you can help weed out some of that?
I only took the innkeeper to the hot springs and gave him a fish to see what it did (I thought nothing, I thought wrong.,) now he goes all moon-eyed every time I rest, it's kind of hilarious knowing I might end up in a 'situation' with what amounts to a long term creeper who's been watching me sleep, but in a lovely 'creeped out laughter' way.

At least I don't have to worry about being paired with a little girl and risk having to explain THAT to my partner. :gonk:

Did ya not get the Golden Idol?

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Shardok
Jan 12, 2009

Samurai Sanders posted:

Meanwhile I am fighting enemies that are literally made of fire and my rented mage pawn keeps enchanting my weapons for fire. I don't think you need a technique scroll or anything to know that that isn't going to work.

Sounds like fire is their only enchant spell they have available.

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