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orenronen posted:We do also get a Kirigiri. 1/8 scale figures for Kirigiri and Nanami were also announced (but no prototypes were shown, at least as far as I can tell), as well as a Monomi nendroid to complement the Monobear one announced previously.
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Okay so this is a bit of a shot in the dark but I figured I might as well ask here. I'm playing Dangan Ronpa 2 and due to my less then perfect Japanese I might've missed something. Dangan Ronpa 2, Chapter 5 end of trial spoilers: What was with Chiaki's death? It seemed oddly elaborate even for an exectuion.  . Alternitavely I could be entirely off base and just seeing things that aren't there. edit to clarify: Was the multipule stages aspect a reference beyond various retro games? I might just be grasping at straws because I like Chiaki. 
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| # ? Feb 19, 2013 08:51 |
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Anatharon posted:Okay so this is a bit of a shot in the dark but I figured I might as well ask here. I'm playing Dangan Ronpa 2 and due to my less then perfect Japanese I might've missed something. I'm not sure if you're actually missing something, but here's my take (MAJOR SPOILERS): first, you're supposed to like Chiaki, of course - she's the game's main heroine and the game uses every trick in the book to get the player attached to her. Monobear is extra cruel in this execution for two reasons - first, to cause the most amount of despair: Nanami is guilty because of a technicality, and Monobear is trying to break the remaining students. Second, this is also Monobear taking out the two actual opponents he has in the game - the two who knew what was going on and were working for the resistance. Of course he's going to go extra-elaborate on their execution.
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| # ? Feb 19, 2013 09:27 |
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orenronen posted:I'm not sure if you're actually missing something, but here's my take (MAJOR SPOILERS): first, you're supposed to like Chiaki, of course - she's the game's main heroine and the game uses every trick in the book to get the player attached to her. Monobear is extra cruel in this execution for two reasons - first, to cause the most amount of despair: Nanami is guilty because of a technicality, and Monobear is trying to break the remaining students. Second, this is also Monobear taking out the two actual opponents he has in the game - the two who knew what was going on and were working for the resistance. Of course he's going to go extra-elaborate on their execution. I guess that does make sense. I was mostly comparing it to Naegi/Kirigiri's executions in DR1. But the surprise of seeing Naegi lined up to get killed off was a big enough gut punch to the player to make up for it.
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| # ? Feb 19, 2013 18:59 |
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So uh, for lack of a better place to ask I'll try here again. This time, main menu question: Does everything on it get unlocked after beating the game, or is there a need to replay it to get some/some that can be missed? I'm about half way through chapter 6 and I don't want to replay the game right after I beat it, as I'd rather just follow the LP.
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| # ? Feb 21, 2013 08:15 |
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Anatharon posted:This time, main menu question I finally beat DR2 after 73 hours played! As Sonia would say, シット！ジーザス！ガッデム！ Too bad the first game's saves don't have time listed on them. Still haven't checked the new unlocked modes, but that was a great game. I'd say overall I liked the atmosphere and the ending sequence of the first game more, but the second was still really good and had better characters in general. The only character that I really hated this time was Saionji (and Souda was grating after a while, I guess) when there were a few in the first game, so that was a step up. I never expected to like Kuzuryuu but he became my favorite character, beating out Nanami. (ending) The final video with Usami beating the crap out of her was great! But I felt like that last scene of Hinata watching the boat shouldn't have been in there. Dude was SURGICALLY ALTERED IN HIS BRAIN and they were all depending on nothing but a tiny ray of hope for the people deep inside them to bring them out of their despair even though there was supposed to be NO memories from the program saved back into their brains, presumably just some lingering bits like a dream. And Hinata just pops back out, cuts his hair, and changes his name back within the (presumably) few hours it takes for those three to hop on a boat? Should have gone the same route as the first game and ended it right at the shutdown. On an unrelated note, I was hoping to see the 破壊神暗黒四天王 make a reappearance at some point, guess they never recovered  edit: Now that I think of it, they were probably a part of Tanaka's consciousness. So I guess it makes sense that they disappeared.Anyway, from searching it seems like there are rumors of a DR3 coming for Vita. Can only hope! Ara fucked around with this message at Apr 9, 2013 around 08:39 |
| # ? Apr 9, 2013 08:31 |
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Ara posted:I finally beat DR2 after 73 hours played! As Sonia would say, シット！ジーザス！ガッデム！ Too bad the first game's saves don't have time listed on them. Still haven't checked the new unlocked modes, but that was a great game. I'd say overall I liked the atmosphere and the ending sequence of the first game more, but the second was still really good and had better characters in general. The only character that I really hated this time was Saionji (and Souda was grating after a while, I guess) when there were a few in the first game, so that was a step up. I never expected to like Kuzuryuu but he became my favorite character, beating out Nanami. Nanami was my favorite when I was playing, too, though I can now easily see through the manipulative tricks they used to purposely make her the favorite character for most readers. I think I've settled on Sonia, especially now that I'm translating the game and paying much closer attention to every single line in the script. She's a really refreshing take on the foreign character as regularly portrayed in Japanese pop culture - everything from the way her 変な日本語 is played out to her personality quirks are things I've never quite seen before.
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| # ? Apr 9, 2013 09:30 |
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Although I can't read Japanese, I can read Korean, and I've been following a Let's Play being done in Korean.  It's up to the early part of Chapter 5 so far, so beyond that I have no knowledge of what's to come except Nanami being a killer/the mastermind?? It's... I'm 99% positive because of a soundtrack piece someone linked me. As for everything up to that point, I wanted to talk about it a bit. Big spoilers, obviously. I thought Hanamura's death was pretty sad, especially the motive behind it and how he didn't mean to kill Togami. Still sad Togami is dead. I was also one of the people who thought he was such a creep, but in retrospect, especially compared with Souda, he was just sort of a weirdo.. Souda creeps me out waay more, especially the face he does the first time Ibuki plays on stage, along with his creepy big-eyed smile.  Peko dying was kind of unexpected, but once the trial went underway, it became pretty obvious it was her. I thought Kuzuryyu died as well and I was pretty shocked at first, because I was positive he was going to live a lot longer. I thought they made the first two deaths pretty sympathetic, and when Peko went nuts at first, I was like, wow, another 'Genocider Syo', but I really liked the track they played during her 'freakout'. Pretty sad about Ibuki and Saionji's deaths. I can imagine how some of the people reading the thread will react once that time comes around.. I thought it was pretty expected for the nurse to kill Saionji, though I didn't think she'd do it because she got walked in on killing Ibuki. Her execution though.. what the heck? Fanservicey even till the end. I liked Chimiki but the way they fanserviced her as well as all the other fanservice they had in the game was just annoying as hell. Then when Nidai came back, that was just too much for me, and started making me wonder if there was any credibility to the 'virtual reality' theories some people had put out. I hope the hamsters will be okay.  Anyway, I still do follow the Let's Play thread, just to see how the Korean and English translations compare. They're pretty much similar so far, and it's interesting how the character quirks in speaking is presented in both languages (i.e. Ibuki, Chimiki, Sonia and Usami use formal speech most of the time, Monokuma in certain situations, while the rest of the cast don't bother). I follow the LP thread now mostly because I want to see how things get said in English. The part where (not really a spoiler at this point since the LP covered it but to be safe) Ibuki freaks out about Nagito in trial 1 and makes the implication he has the signs of a serial killer was hilarious to me in Korean, but not English, even though the translations were the exact same. It's interesting to me how that works with language. As for characters, I think the only one I ended up not liking so far is Souda. And Monobear of course. 
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| # ? Apr 9, 2013 18:48 |
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I'd actually forgotten about Tsumiki's "I am all tangled up oh no my panties" fanservice scenes by the end; she was just kind of a forgettable character for me. Looking back though, she was the first one to introduce a really important plot element. For fanservice, Owari's increasingly direct "you can do x to my boobs" was a lot more noticeable. There were also a couple parts during the class trials where she had a highlighted section of words about penises, and if you shoot a kotodama at them then she'll talk about how amazing penises are. I think that was in trial 5, the bits about "men's tails" and "men's OTHER tails" or something like that. By Chimiki, I think you're talking about Tsumiki, right? The only one who really talks formally is Sonia. Tsumiki talks in a nervously polite tone, but not especially formal. Ibuki is definitely not what I would call polite, but I can see her manner of speaking being really hard to convey outside of Japanese. In fact I think I'll check out the LP now too, since I'm kind of curious how orenren has gone about translating especially Ibuki, Tanaka, and Nidai into English. Glad I'm not doing it, because Tanaka would give me a hell of a headache. To me the most noticeable difference with the English let's play is all of the readers referring to characters by their first names, which just feels... weird. I mean besides Ibuki, nobody calls anybody by their first names ever. I actually had some trouble at first when Ibuki would talk because I would have to go into the character profiles and figure out who she was talking about, since I hadn't memorized everyone's first names yet. Actually I think the writers even expected that, because Hinata would be like "Oh, you mean Koizumi right?" a lot of the time. And yeah totally agree about the interesting usage of a foreigner for Sonia. I got the impression that the writers had actually met foreign Japanese-speakers at some point. But what was the よしこちゃん that she kept saying? I think that Souda corrected it the first time she did it, but I forget what the correction was. Orenren, do you remember what I'm talking about? Ara fucked around with this message at Apr 9, 2013 around 19:44 |
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Ara posted:By Chimiki, I think you're talking about Tsumiki, right? The only one who really talks formally is Sonia. Tsumiki talks in a nervously polite tone, but not especially formal. Ibuki is definitely not what I would call polite, but I can see her manner of speaking being really hard to convey outside of Japanese. In fact I think I'll check out the LP now too, since I'm kind of curious how orenren has gone about translating especially Ibuki, Tanaka, and Nidai into English. Glad I'm not doing it, because Tanaka would give me a hell of a headache. Well, one thing I'm not changing in the LP (but we are changing in the patched translation for DR1) is naming conventions. In the LP, the names appear as they do in the game, honorifics and all, with cultural notes when necessary. I wouldn't do that if I didn't have the luxury of translation notes, but since I do - that's one game where I feel keeping them works. Gundam and Sonia are very difficult to translate and we're basically rewriting a lot of dialogue for them, buy what's most difficult to translate is the huge amount of puns and wordplay. There's a ton of it, some even relevant to the plot. My stance this time is that I'm willing to provide cultural notes, but never language-related translation notes or explanation for jokes. That means we're working hard finding creative solutions to all of them, which is not an easy task. よしこちゃん is from 冗談はよしこちゃん/よしこさん/よしおくん. It's an ancient ダジャレ that simply means "enough joking around". Most references to it on the net are from people in their 40's saying it was already an old and embarrassing joke when they were children. Sonia uses a couple more of those, as well as many quotes from old anime and TV dramas. And by "old" I mean these are references that will fly over the heads of most of the Japanese target audience for the game. Translating her takes a lot of research, though I did know the よしこ thing before (not that I can remember where I picked it up myself...)
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Ara posted:By Chimiki, I think you're talking about Tsumiki, right? The only one who really talks formally is Sonia. Tsumiki talks in a nervously polite tone, but not especially formal. Ibuki is definitely not what I would call polite, but I can see her manner of speaking being really hard to convey outside of Japanese. In fact I think I'll check out the LP now too, since I'm kind of curious how orenren has gone about translating especially Ibuki, Tanaka, and Nidai into English. Glad I'm not doing it, because Tanaka would give me a hell of a headache. Oh yeah, Tsumiki. I was going by how her name was spelt in Korean and tried to romanize it.  As for Owari being fanservice, yeah, her too, jesus. I JUST got to the part where she said if Hinata can beat her in a match, she'll let him use her 'boob pillow', and now I'm remembering trial 2 where she said she had clean panties before Hinata hoisted her up. Also, Owari isn't the victim for Trial 5? Not that I know who it is, but I'm expecting Kuzurryu That's interesting to hear. Sonia's speech is definitely the most formal out of everyone. I suppose it'd be more correct to say polite form as opposed to formal, as other than Sonia and Tsumiki's nervous formal speech, everyone else using the form does not use it in the same straightforward way. Ibuki for instance, will use polite/formal form, but she'll throw in a couple of informal phrases from time to time. Monobear will use it, but as far as I recall, only in announcements and I guess, sarcastically? It's too bad I can't compare with the source. The only Japanese I know are the ones with the same origins as Korean, or English words made to fit Japanese.
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