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Count Chocula
Dec 25, 2011

WE HAVE TO CONTROL OUR ENVIRONMENT
IF YOU SEE ME POSTING OUTSIDE OF THE AUSPOL THREAD PLEASE TELL ME THAT I'M MISSED AND TO START POSTING AGAIN


Post stupid, spergy, sexist or racist quotes from game journalists here. Comments on the reviews are also fair game. The inspiration is http://gamejournos.com/, which hasn't updated in a month.

Kotaku's Dragon's Dogma review gives us this gem:

quote:

Capcom’s effort to create a Western-feeling RPG with splashes of its own unique features makes the game feel torn. On the one hand, I appreciate an attempt to distinguish itself from other games of its genre. On the other hand, focusing on being different is a dangerous path. When Stephen Totilo interviewed the game director on Sony’s PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale (also known affectionately as Sony’s Smash Bros.), Omar Kendall replied saying, “When I first started working on the game one of my initial hangups was: ‘How can I make this as different as possible?’ And that’s kind of a dangerous mentality to fall into, because that might not lead to the best decisions for the game… It would be silly for us to purposely hurt the game just for the sake of differentiation.” And maybe that’s the trap Capcom fell into here.

There's also Alex Mahan, the San Francisco Video Game Babe Examiner, who just oozes creepiness: http://www.examiner.com/video-game-...eles/alex-mahan

quote:

It's a rare sort of man who designs a busty woman in a low-cut dress and then complains when the Internet talks about her breasts. If Ken is going to give Elizabeth so much sex appeal, he shouldn't be surprised when gamers focus on her chest.

Less conservative fans of BioShock: Infinite can look forward to ogling Elizabeth when the game is released later this year.

Everything he writes is this creepy.

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Vertigus
Jan 8, 2011





This is going to become a Kotaku thread, isn't it?

http://kotaku.com/snacktaku/

quote:

There are worse things for a snackologist to be accused of than tabloid snackistry — pandering to the lowest common denominator with the most sinfully decadent and grotesque combinations.

quote:

But still, my integrity was called into question, which sent me into a depression-fueled bout of introspection, during which I sought solace in my earliest snacking days.

quote:

It's a marriage that is, at the very least, quite pleasing to the eye. Since the days of Robin Hood, men of adventure have appreciated the combination of green and brown. It's like the thick and powerful trunk of a mighty oak, stalwart and proud, topped by the tenuous beauty of leafy green.

quote:

As a raw vegetable, however, the initial bite into that thick stalk delivers a flavor that my taste buds can only register as "poison".

Mercury Crusader
Apr 20, 2005

「ダブル超電磁ロボの必殺技,
見せてやるぜ!」


Vertigus posted:

This is going to become a Kotaku thread, isn't it?

They almost have the monopoly on lovely articles. I'm expecting a lot of articles from Brian Ashcraft and Tim Rogers.

Lucinice
Feb 15, 2012

Aw hey that's cute.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWEiccW5l4Q

May aswell post this now before anyone else does.

Count Chocula
Dec 25, 2011

WE HAVE TO CONTROL OUR ENVIRONMENT
IF YOU SEE ME POSTING OUTSIDE OF THE AUSPOL THREAD PLEASE TELL ME THAT I'M MISSED AND TO START POSTING AGAIN


Mercury Crusader posted:

They almost have the monopoly on lovely articles. I'm expecting a lot of articles from Brian Ashcraft and Tim Rogers.

Tim Rogers is usually the antidote to these kind of articles. Like Tim and his acolytes love God Hand, while IGN:

Human
Jun 9, 2004
Because Human didn't pay for this account, the payee would like to call him a yiffy, furry-loving fag.

The celery stick review is kind of funny. Not the actual text of it, just the fact that it exists. If I was scrolling down the page and saw that, I'd probably have a good chuckle.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.

A review of "celery and peanut butter", seriously? That was like a joke article or April Fool's or something and not an actual, regular column, right?

Vertigus
Jan 8, 2011



Count Chocula posted:

Tim Rogers is usually the antidote to these kind of articles. Like Tim and his acolytes love God Hand, while IGN:



IGN is the company that gave the review of a Final Fantasy game to an intern who had previously reviewed games like Bejeweled, and had a guy post a hugely negative review of a game where the developers tracked down his account and proved that he'd only spent 45 minutes playing it.

MadJackMcJack
Jun 10, 2009


Vertigus posted:

IGN is the company that gave the review of a Final Fantasy game to an intern who had previously reviewed games like Bejeweled, and had a guy post a hugely negative review of a game where the developers tracked down his account and proved that he'd only spent 45 minutes playing it.

Haha, what game was that?

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000



Dont forget this 100/100 review of God of War 3:

"God of War III is beautiful. It's bloody. It's brilliant. But it's not perfect. [Apr 2010, p.44]"

Dan Didio
Apr 6, 2009

Should've sent a poet.

imagine party babyz, is a really good game and I bet none of the God Hand fans that post that image have actually played it.

Let's play a little game called 'compare and contrast':

So, Activision and Call of Dutys Creators Had A Pretty Bitchy Relationship.

Kotaku's coverage of a fairly major event and some incredibly sleazy going-ons at Activision amidst the Infinity Ward/Modern Warfare 2 controversy that consists of a wry image of two cats fighting and three paragraphs telling you little more than to read the LA Times for the actual story.

Activision, Infinity Ward, and 'Project Icebreaker'.

Giantbomb's coverage on the other hand is actually, y'know, informative.

Kotaku is a loving disgrace.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Veni, vidi, Lombardi.


Is there going to be a moratorium on Mass Effect 3 related things? Because there's just so much of it the thread may get suffocated by them.

Vertigus
Jan 8, 2011



MadJackMcJack posted:

Haha, what game was that?

Savage.

Oh, and it was actaully Gamespot that pulled that one. When it comes to integrity, Gamespot has even less than IGN.

quote:

This message is to state that the editors of GameSpot have decided to rescind the recently posted review of the PC game, Savage: The Battle for Newerth. This decision comes as a direct result of allegations by the game's developers that the reviewer of the product did not play it for a sufficient length of time prior to passing judgment --an allegation supported by specific server-side player logging that apparently measures exactly for how long the player's account was active.

While we have no way of substantiating this allegation ourselves, as we have no access to the same tools or information that the game's developers do, we nonetheless have taken and are taking this claim very seriously, and have discussed it in detail with the author of the review. He, in turn, takes the accusation very seriously--having written dozens of articles for GameSpot over the years, this author has certainly helped bolster our credibility with our audience over the long run. Nevertheless, as the author cannot produce sufficient evidence to counter the allegation (though he has not pleaded guilty to it, either), we are compelled to take the actions we believe are necessarily in the best interest of GameSpot and its users.

We are, now and always, firmly committed to providing our users with unequivocally accurate information about games--information that is deeply rooted in fact, and unadulterated by any biases from any parties. That is, we are committed to looking out for our users' time and our users' money, and we would never willfully post any article on this site that we knew to be in poor judgment or not based on a sufficiently experienced evaluation of the product in question. As such, we sincerely regret that this situation has come to pass, and trust that you, our users, understand why we have chosen to take this course of action, despite the decided ambiguity of the circumstances. We will re-evaluate Savage: The Battle for Newerth at a later date, using all due care and diligence as we consistently work to apply in all cases.

Dan Didio
Apr 6, 2009

Should've sent a poet.

Whelp.

Daikatana Ritsu
Aug 1, 2008


Dan Didio posted:

Giantbomb's coverage on the other hand is actually, y'know, informative.

Kotaku is a loving disgrace.

Patrick has single handedly revived my interest in game journalism. Even if he is sometimes a mushmouthed 12 year old. His writing is always solid.

Vertigus
Jan 8, 2011




quote:

My worst year on earth may well have been 2005. I had gone from a blood-and-guts newspaper writer to headcount hire sitting in a cubicle with nothing to do for weeks on end. I’d once been the coolest guy at the cocktail party, now I was just another stiff with a badge around his neck in the cafeteria.

Truly, his life must have been hell.

Kifisonfire
Jan 15, 2008



Vertigus posted:

This is going to become a Kotaku thread, isn't it?
That's not fair, Destructoid will have a decent amount of posts too.

Isn't there a Tumblr devoted to this already?

Human
Jun 9, 2004
Because Human didn't pay for this account, the payee would like to call him a yiffy, furry-loving fag.

Kifisonfire posted:

That's not fair, Destructoid will have a decent amount of posts too.

Isn't there a Tumblr devoted to this already?

Gamejournos.com closed down awhile ago, but you can still read the old stuff. It is mostly okay, but the owner was a little bit of a rage addict and it showed through.

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 16, 2004



A current gaming journalism controversy happened at Eurogamer, when one of their editors got their battle.net account hacked and he lost all of his D3 loot and gold. They found some random people on battle.net saying that it could be from a Session ID hijack. This was conclusive enough for the editor to write a big news story about how awful Blizzard's security is and how people are hijacking your account through a session ID exploit.

This poo poo spread like wildfire and the whole D3 community panicked and flipped out. Turns out, after everyone calmed down, there was zero evidence of any actual session ID hijackings going on. Nobody turned up any explanations or details on the attacks and how they work, and everyone who claims to have lost an account despite an authenticator was proven to be lying or have attached one only after the attack. Of course, many victims are still irate at Blizzard, insisting that Blizzard must be at fault, and not them. But that's battle.net for you.

The real stupidity is in all the other news sites out there that picked up the story and ran with it. Rock Paper Shotgun tried to chastise Blizzard over this. The battle.net forum post they linked to that proved people with authenticators were getting hijacked read something like "I had an authenticator and still got hacked. Blizzard sucks, 0/10" Yeah, sounds reliable. A CM later replied to the thread outing him as not having one. None of the news sites reporting Blizzard's apparently appalling security have yet to issue any sort of redaction. Journalism.

We're in an age where random unverified postings on Battle.net are strong enough sources to run a condemning news story.

The Phantom Ghost
Feb 28, 2007

hold on what kind of fighting robot is he again

The AV Club has a new video game based spinoff site, given the groan-inducing name The Gameological Society.

Some of its gems include interviews with "prominent figures in the pop-culture arena" about video games, such as one with a writer of the Colbert Report who talks about playing an iphone game sometimes? And "Alternative Soundtrack" which matches games with albums "that enhance the experience".

It's all pretty dumb.

Mercury Crusader
Apr 20, 2005

「ダブル超電磁ロボの必殺技,
見せてやるぜ!」


Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

We're in an age where random unverified postings on Battle.net are strong enough sources to run a condemning news story.

Thanks to the internet, social media, Web 2.0, whatever you want to call it, games journalists only care about being the first to break a story. It's the journalism equivalent of posting "FIRST" on a YouTube video, and it doesn't matter how much misinformation is distributed as long as they can claim they were the first to report this piece of news. As long as they get those hits and that ad revenue, being accurate is secondary at best.

Category Fun!
Dec 2, 2008

im just trying to get you into bed






Zellus
Apr 3, 2010

Incompetence surrounds me!


You know how some Metroid fans claim that Samus suffers from PTSD, and that makes her terrible characterization in Other M totally okay? You can all thank this one article from VGChartz which was posted a week after the game came out.

PTSD or Weakness: Real Experts on Why Samus Didn't Shoot.

quote:

This attitude has been a common vibe for the past few weeks, as many felt that the game deviated from the established characterization given to Samus. Some even went as far as to call the game sexist, as Samus was shown in a “weak way.” The problem is that in the context of the game, the developers are trying very hard to imply that Samus suffers from some variation of an anxiety disorder, such as PTSD. Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder is one of the many things that folks do not like talking about when it comes to warfare, which is a shame. During the Vietnam War the United States Department of Veterans Affairs estimated that 830,000 Vietnam War veterans suffered symptoms of PTSD.

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I was under the impression that the aforementioned scene and the comic pretty much solidified her status as coping with the disorder, but the negative talk online got me thinking about it. My thoughts are that folks do not understand such a disorder, and were saying things like that due to ignorance of the situation instead of sheer malice. PTSD is one of those sensitive areas many do not want to talk about, so it can be understandable.

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While it’s apparent that Samus as a character most likely has PTSD, one can overlook the plight of many of our REAL servicemen and women no matter what country you reside in. Having the opinion that someone should “get over it” is not only ignorant, but pretty disrespectful to those that have fought for our countries.

edit: The site just went down for some reason. Weird. I guess just check again later.

Setzer Gabbiani
Oct 13, 2004



Straight White Male: The Lowest Difficulty Setting There Is

You probably already know which site just by the title, but in case you want to guess anyway! Kotaku

Cityinthesea
Aug 7, 2009


That essay was posted elsewhere and kotaku merely reposted it.

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000



Setzer Gabbiani posted:

Straight White Male: The Lowest Difficulty Setting There Is

You probably already know which site just by the title, but in case you want to guess anyway! Kotaku



This isnt a Kotaku article its just a repost. While its not really saying anything that hasnt been said a million times and better, the whole angle of trying to discuss privilege without using the word in order to keep shithead teenage videogamers from flipping out worked, for what its worth

Sankis
Mar 8, 2004

But I remember the fella who told me. Big lad. Arms as thick as oak trees, a stunning collection of scars, nice eye patch. A REAL therapist he was. Er wait. Maybe it was rapist?



Count Chocula posted:

Tim Rogers is usually the antidote to these kind of articles. Like Tim and his acolytes love God Hand, while IGN:



I don't want to come off as a game reveiwer apologist, but that's probably not as bad as it seems. When you're reviewing a game you're not (or, well, probably shouldn't be) comparing it to every other game that's been released. Both of those reviews can stand on their own and it doesn't mean that one game is better than the other. Imagine Party Babies could be a completely competent minigame collection.

Meme Emulator posted:

Dont forget this 100/100 review of God of War 3:

"God of War III is beautiful. It's bloody. It's brilliant. But it's not perfect. [Apr 2010, p.44]"

100/100 does not mean perfect nor should it.

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 16, 2004



If you have a hundred point scale and you give something 100/100, you better be sure that if it's not perfect, it's as close to perfect as humanly possible.

But Rocks Hurt Head
Jun 30, 2003

Fleets of taxis stall in the fog, passengers fall asleep. Gas pours from a tri-color stack.

Setzer Gabbiani posted:

Straight White Male: The Lowest Difficulty Setting There Is

You probably already know which site just by the title, but in case you want to guess anyway! Kotaku



As goony as this article is, it is making a fair point in a creative way. The comment section, on the other hand, made me want to vomit blood.

Rocketlex
Oct 21, 2008

The Manliest Knight
in Caketown


Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

If you have a hundred point scale and you give something 100/100, you better be sure that if it's not perfect, it's as close to perfect as humanly possible.

It's a 9,999/10,000 so he just kinda rounded up.

FauxCyclops
Feb 25, 2007

I'm the man who killed Hostess. Now, say my name.


Silent Hill: Downpour.

Complaints in this review include:

-The environments are drab and dark.
-The combat is clunky and unfun, often necessitating running away instead of confrontation.
-The game has a new protagonist.
-The sound design is sparse aside from "some creepy noises here and there".

So in other words it's a technically perfect Silent Hill game. Final score: 4.5

". Downpour takes many of the devices familiar to fans of the franchise like Akira Yamaoka's score and many of the familiar landmarks and sights in the town, and replaces them with new previously unexplored sections of Silent Hill, a new hero and more of a focus on action and combat."

As if every Silent Hill game didn't use a new character to explore new areas of the town, SH3's hospital retread notwithstanding.

SpazmasterX
Jul 13, 2006

MORE ROBUST THAN EVER BEFORE.


Count Chocula posted:

Tim Rogers is usually the antidote to these kind of articles. Like Tim and his acolytes love God Hand, while IGN:



I like how the guy that reviewed God Hand apparently doesn't understand how averages work.

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000



Sankis posted:

100/100 does not mean perfect nor should it.

What is the point of using a scale as granular as a 100 point scale if youre using bullshit reasoning like this. This isn't the equivalent of a movie getting 4 stars and not being perfect, when using 4 stars you only have 9 scores you can give. When using a 100 point scale you have 101. When the review contains the word "Its not perfect", you look like a jackass giving it a 100.

Of course all rating scales are bullshit and worthless and the long form review is what should matter, but we are in an era dictated by Metacritic so that wont be happening any time soon.

SpazmasterX posted:

I like how the guy that reviewed God Hand apparently doesn't understand how averages work.

It says (not an average) at the bottom

Xythar
Dec 22, 2004

echoes of a contemporary nation

SpazmasterX posted:

I like how the guy that reviewed God Hand apparently doesn't understand how averages work.

But it says "not an average" right there.

Dan Didio
Apr 6, 2009

Should've sent a poet.

SpazmasterX posted:

I like how the guy that reviewed God Hand apparently doesn't understand how averages work.

You don't understand how reading works.

EDIT: Guh, beaten.

SpazmasterX
Jul 13, 2006

MORE ROBUST THAN EVER BEFORE.


Huh, so it does. Guess my eyes just kinda glazed over after seeing fives, a six, and a seven and the guy somehow came out at three.

Dan Didio
Apr 6, 2009

Should've sent a poet.

I'd be more suspect of the fact that the 'out of ten' rating seems to translate into a binary 'good/bad' determination.

Rocketlex
Oct 21, 2008

The Manliest Knight
in Caketown


Graphics: 7.9
Sound: 6.0
Gameplay: 7.1
Longevity: 5.0
Overall: 10 (not an average)

Count Chocula
Dec 25, 2011

WE HAVE TO CONTROL OUR ENVIRONMENT
IF YOU SEE ME POSTING OUTSIDE OF THE AUSPOL THREAD PLEASE TELL ME THAT I'M MISSED AND TO START POSTING AGAIN


Meme Emulator posted:

What is the point of using a scale as granular as a 100 point scale if youre using bullshit reasoning like this. This isn't the equivalent of a movie getting 4 stars and not being perfect, when using 4 stars you only have 9 scores you can give. When using a 100 point scale you have 101. When the review contains the word "Its not perfect", you look like a jackass giving it a 100.


This sort of overly-literal interpretation of things is part of the problem with games journalism, in my opinion. If Pitchfork gives OK Computer a 10.0, they're not saying it is literally perfect. They're saying they can't think of a better album. I'd give certain games the highest score I could, but they obviously still have flaws.

This applies to people mocking Tim Rogers, KillScreenDaily, and the Gamelogoical Society. As wanky as they may seem, they're trying to do something different. Focusing just on the numbers leads to a mechanistic idea of games as product, and makes it harder to understand what's worthwhile about them. You see this on Eurogamer comments, where the reviewer will write an interesting review and all the comments are 'better than Gears, than?'.

quote:

Graphics: 7.9
Sound: 6.0
Gameplay: 7.1
Longevity: 5.0
Overall: 10 (not an average)

But this could be valid? Look at a well-loved no budget movie like Dark Star or Evil Dead. It might be 'objectively' lacking in many areas, but it has an intangible something that makes it amazing.

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A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 23, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!


It should still at least be in the area of an average. Not an average should mean "It averaged 7.5, but I liked it enough as a whole to give it an 8." or "Overall, it averaged a 9, but it had some minor miscellaneous issues so I gave it an 8.5.", not "It averaged a 5, but I gave it a 3 because gently caress you!".

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