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Knuc If U Buck
Aug 17, 2004


CapnAndy posted:

What does being an independent mean? There's some scottish rear end in a top hat camping out in Ulster, and I have every right to go to go to war with him, the game's even bugging me to press my de jure claims. But I can't declare war, because the Earl of Ulster is an independent. How do I get this fucker off my kingdom?

You need to take on Scotland. You have to declare war on his highest level liege.

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NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt



CapnAndy posted:

What does being an independent mean? There's some scottish rear end in a top hat camping out in Ulster, and I have every right to go to go to war with him, the game's even bugging me to press my de jure claims. But I can't declare war, because the Earl of Ulster is an independent. How do I get this fucker off my kingdom?
The big red [X] next to an entry in a tooltip actually means "this condition is NOT being fulfilled", programming-style. That is, you can't declare a war on a vassal (Earl of Ulster), you must declare war to the top-level, independent liege (the King of Scotland, in this case).

Bonus: this is why if you're playing as an independent count or small duke and someone more powerful than you has a claim on your lands, or is a different religion and could Holy War you, you go and swear allegiance to the nearest big guy that will accept you as their vassal so they can protect you. Feudalism 101.

Knuc If U Buck
Aug 17, 2004


NihilCredo posted:

The big red [X] next to an entry in a tooltip actually means "this condition is NOT being fulfilled", programming-style. That is, you can't declare a war on a vassal (Earl of Ulster), you must declare war to the top-level, independent liege (the King of Scotland, in this case).

Bonus: this is why if you're playing as an independent count or small duke and someone more powerful than you has a claim on your lands, or is a different religion and could Holy War you, you go and swear allegiance to the nearest big guy that will accept you as their vassal so they can protect you. Feudalism 101.

I did the opposite of this as the Duke of Portucale and single handedly finished the Reconquista.

Pimpmust
Oct 1, 2008



GoatLord posted:

Duh. That still leaves me with a bunch of unlanded sons sitting around and drinking all day, or whatever they do to rack up all that decadence.

Is this with vanilla CK2?

It's been awhile since I played but CK2+ solved the problem by simply removing the retarded vanilla decadence mechanics* and replacing it with a relatively harmless event system.


*They did patch out every single living male relative, whether in your court or not, adding decadence but "gently caress you" if you get too many sons is still a thing apparently.

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013


Strudel Man posted:

If you don't give titles to members of your dynasty first and foremost, you are Playing Wrong. Sorry.

This depends on my mood. Sometimes I play big nepotism games, giving even the dumbest and most inbred relative a county, other times I roleplay it as a Scandinavian by giving rewards to good generals (victorious chieftains in my head), and other times the titles get distributed solely by ability. Giving your titles to your dynasty always becomes boring after a while.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Shepard is my posting buddy, he has no match.


I just conquered Russia so my second son would have a crown too. He died a maimed cripple within 5 years of me giving him that crown.

I killed my best son.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

The Pink Warrior should just shut up!


Arglebargle III posted:

I just conquered Russia so my second son would have a crown too. He died a maimed cripple within 5 years of me giving him that crown.

I killed my best son.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

This is easily the funniest page of any of these threads.


Knuc If U Buck posted:

You need to take on Scotland. You have to declare war on his highest level liege.
Oh awesome. Well, time to see if the might of Ireland can match that of Scotland, I guess. They were next anyway.

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Arnold of Soissons
Mar 4, 2011



CapnAndy posted:

Oh awesome. Well, time to see if the might of Ireland can match that of Scotland, I guess. They were next anyway.

In case you don't know, you can tell this by clicking on the sort of tree shaped thing in the upper right to the avatar of the ruler, the "realm status" button, and then hover over the little mans icon and that will tell you how many soldiers he can muster theoretically as well as how many he can muster right now.

If it's way more than you can field, wait for him to go to war with England or for a civil war to break out. Remember more popular rulers get more levies, too, so if you can assassinate him the new king will automatically get a "new ruler" penalty with his vassals, and if it's a kid then a "young ruler" hit on top of that, meaning far fewer men in the field against you.

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