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Slate Action posted:Does anyone else have to fight the urge to reload a save anytime something bad happens? I've only done so once, when an untimely ruler death would have pretty much ended my game. This seems to be a game where the RNG dictates your fate sometimes, and it can be a dick. I try to just roll with the punches (mostly my mistakes) but there's no way I'm abandoning 300 years of gameplay just because my guy overexerted himself in bed.
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 14:42 |
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bpower posted:
If you are the de jure ruler of Austisland - duke or King - then he'll become your vassal. If not, then nope, you gotta get that claim passed down.
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 14:44 |
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bpower posted:
He's not family or your de jure vassal (since Iceland is in the kingdom of Norway) so I believe he'd become an independent ruler.
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 14:44 |
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bpower posted:
You gotta kill him.
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 14:46 |
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Seems like just 5 minutes ago he was walking off the boat to meet his new wife. So sad.
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 14:52 |
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How's succession work in an independent state where all the close relatives of the rulers are dead? Last night I cheated up tons of cash and kept murdering successive Danish kings. Once the line of inheritance is exhausted it seems to just grab random Danes of the right dynasty. I'll have to check what happens if that supply is exhausted.
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 14:57 |
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:I try to just roll with the punches (mostly my mistakes) but there's no way I'm abandoning 300 years of gameplay just because my guy overexerted himself in bed. I had my awesome übermensch of an Egyptian duke first get himself killed in a great hunt (5% chance or something), naturally I reloaded because I'd only played for 9 years by then. A decade later and my awesome ruler, not even 40, takes a mallet to the head during one of the Caliph's many conflicts against revolting Syrians (only safe zone there is to keep my own troops deployed with my Duke in charge at all times to avoid that). The guy goes on to live infirm for 20 years, with various NPC regents stealing all his titles  To top it off, he got like 9 daughters but only 1 son before that tragedy.
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 15:02 |
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:At his insistence, his bed was wheeled out to the lists; in his age-addled stupor, he thought it was the line to get ice cream. Seeing this pitiful fool trying to use a jousting lance as a spoon, none of his opponents would face him, and all accepted a forfeit, much to the crowd's delight. Alas, he would have won the whole thing had not the eventual tournament winner taken the time to explain that there was, in fact, no ice cream; so hearing, he demanded himself carried back to his room away from all the scary people, and so forfeited himself. See, you should do a LP in this style.
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 15:03 |
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:How's succession work in an independent state where all the close relatives of the rulers are dead? Last night I cheated up tons of cash and kept murdering successive Danish kings. Once the line of inheritance is exhausted it seems to just grab random Danes of the right dynasty. I'll have to check what happens if that supply is exhausted. I've done this, it's seemingly inexhaustible.
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 15:26 |
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ZearothK posted:See, you should do a LP in this style. As I now understand the game and how to win, I find it's most fun to play as though you are roleplaying your character's traits (Wiz's LPs tend to be in this style, I think). Sometimes this means making the "wrong" decision", but I find it most fun in this way 
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 15:38 |
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600 years into a Carte Blanche game, just me and the Horde and a few deep south Sheiks left, and I get a CTD. Fire it back up and none of the 3 autosaves will load, and I didn't manually save it within the last 200 years 
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 15:59 |
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Every time I get a gay character I try to bring all the gay people in the game to my court to make sure he has someone to love, I'm not playing this game right am I?
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 16:02 |
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 I have claims on both French counties of Brittney. Anyway of getting them without going to war with France?
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 16:17 |
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WhitemageofDOOM posted:Swear allegiance to Scotland, then they can't complain when you eat Irish provinces. Once you rule all of ireland and most of scotland, declare independence, form kingdom of ireland and usurp scotland. He said he's already formed Ireland, therefore is a King and would not be able to pledge vassalage to another King. bpower posted:
Pray for them to rebel. EDIT: Stalingrad posted:Every time I get a gay character I try to bring all the gay people in the game to my court to make sure he has someone to love, I'm not playing this game right am I? Sounds like the correct way to me.
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 16:29 |
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bpower posted:
 the King of France until there's an unliked toddler on the throne, and/or get him excommunicated if you can. Your chancellor can also get sent to Sabotage Relationship with Liege, which rarely does much but every bit helps. It's gonna be hard.
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 16:33 |
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edit: gently caress, new page. Nothing to see here.
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 16:38 |
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TheClown posted:Yep, that was it, apparently my empire_decisions.txt only had two empires in it. Replaced it with a new version, and we're away. Thanks for the help guys. On a whim I checked mine and I have the same problem. Do you have a link to the new version?
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 16:39 |
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Current game starting as the Count of Napoli is the first one where I've actually managed to see my character lusting after his own mother: and then there's my cousin once removed who's finally managed to have a child that lives for more than five seconds after losing two wives and daughters in childbirth. 
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 17:00 |
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Red Mundus posted:On a whim I checked mine and I have the same problem. Do you have a link to the new version? ck2plus.adjacentminds.com/CK2Plus-1.20.zip Mirdini posted:Current game starting as the Count of Napoli is the first one where I've actually managed to see my character lusting after his own mother: I had an amusing event where it said my wife was no longer a looker and perhaps I should look for a lover. The funny thing was the suggested lover was my wife.
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 17:03 |
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Little Abigail posted:I had an amusing event where it said my wife was no longer a looker and perhaps I should look for a lover. That's the cutest thing.
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 17:15 |
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Little Abigail posted:ck2plus.adjacentminds.com/CK2Plus-1.20.zip Gained Trait: Loves Pina Coladas, Getting Caught in the Rain
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 17:17 |
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Any idea why I can't press her claim? She's a member of my court, and has a claim, but the CB doesn't appear to exist. 
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 17:54 |
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TheClown posted:Any idea why I can't press her claim? I think the claimed title has to be at least agnatic-cognatic for you to press a woman's claim, and possibly full-cognatic. I don't remember the specifics.
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 17:58 |
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Because she is a woman and that title is not full cognatic.
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 17:59 |
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Freudian posted:I think the claimed title has to be at least agnatic-cognatic for you to press a woman's claim, and possibly full-cognatic. I don't remember the specifics. It is Agnatic-Cognatic, so I'm guessing it needs to be full Cognatic. Balls.
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 18:26 |
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TheClown posted:It is Agnatic-Cognatic, so I'm guessing it needs to be full Cognatic. Balls. I can press women's claims all night long in CK2+.
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 18:49 |
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ZearothK posted:See, you should do a LP in this style. But, but, but, those take work!
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 18:51 |
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I put a daughter-in-law on the throne of Scotland, and that definitely isn't full cognatic. I can't say for certain what it was at the time I pressed it but it just finally passed to my character now like two generations later and it's now agnatic. I don't know if my relative queen was the one who changed it or what. So in this situation with multiple crowns do you try to make all your succession laws match? I just picked up Scotland per above and Leon in a crusade in a span of like six months.
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 19:06 |
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My first emperor lives quite awhile, so I handed my heir a kingdom once he'd grown and got married. When he dies and I check my new emperor, he is the lover of his son's wife. I pop out a few bastards from her and legitimise them, and my son doesn't mind since I gave him a kingdom. Suddendly, he decleares inderpendance despite beign first in line for the throne and most of my vassals surounding him could beat him on their own. So I assassinate him, and my grandson takes over. I had just had the event where your wife finds out about your affair and hates you, and as she was my spymaster I think I'd better do something about that. So I murder her and marry my lover, who is still at the court of my grandson. He doesn't seem to want his mother to marry his grandfather, so he marries her off to a random courier as soon as he gets my request. One assassination later, and she is single again. I send a marrige request again, and this time my grandson relents. So at the end of this my son and wife are dead by my hand, just so I could marry my lover (who is my grandsons mother). This is the best game.
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 19:15 |
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Speaking of unpressable claims, any idea why I'm unable to press this? The option simply doesn't show up when I go to declare war on the emperor.
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 19:18 |
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Mirdini posted:and then there's my cousin once removed who's finally managed to have a child that lives for more than five seconds after losing two wives and daughters in childbirth.  Only 23 and he's lost two wives in childbirth, along with the children. Both wives and both children were geniuses to boot. Also lost a (quick) daughter to pneumonia. At least his oldest is still alive 
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 19:47 |
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I completely hosed up my game. My king died and the main heir was a disaster, he had terrible base stats plus 4 negative traits, he also married a real duffer. I try to sort it out by killing the wife, marry someone decent and hunker down until I get a decent heir. 3 failed assignation attempts later and I get excommunicated. Scotland and England sent in the doom stacks so Im forced to abdicated to my eldest son. He's a legitimized bastard with a heir lip. A few years later the English press a claim from a long lost uncle and Im in Iceland with one county :P In summary I paid no attention to the next succession and lost every thing. Do you guys kill any heir you dont like the look of? I always leave Gravelkind as the inheritance law. Probably should change it to elective?
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 20:19 |
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My Duke of Apulia died because his heart couldn't sustain the bedroom efforts his frisky wife required. His son and heir is homosexual. That's... learning from your old man's mistakes.
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My Swedish King, the regular starting guy, has waged a successful crusade for Jerusalem, converted almost all of Sweden and Finland to Catholicism, has taken all of Finland/Norway/Sweden, has survived scores of woundings in his 50s, survived infected wounds and camp fever and slow fever and measles in his 70s and continued to knock up his second wife while in his early 80s. He still regularly hunts boar and lead troops from the front due his great marshal ability while in his mid-80s. He may yet live to take Iceland. Currently, almost the entire world seems to have a positive opinion of him, even the enemies he's warring with. He got those scores of wounds early on when I noticed he was old-ish and had numerous belligerent vassals who seemed like they would prefer his son. I tried to get him killed in hunts and battles with poorly arranged troop stacks. It didn't take. Now I think this playthrough will end when this guy finally passes
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 22:10 |
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bpower posted:Do you guys kill any heir you dont like the look of? Yes. In fact just this game, I killed off my heir as something as minuscule as a cultural difference. He was Alan culture and I wanted Basque so I could implement Absolute Cognatic with my heir so I killed him off and my next-in-line was schooled in Basque culture. bpower posted:I always leave Gravelkind as the inheritance law. Probably should change it to elective? I really, really don't see any benefit in Gavelkind. Another more experienced player may chime in but Gavelkind is just begging for a succession crisis.
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 23:12 |
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Gavelkind is pretty much if you're RPing or you're bored with your super-stable empire and want to mix things up. It doesn't make your vassals as happy as elective and it doesn't benefit your heir as much as primogeniture.
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| # ? Jun 17, 2012 23:35 |
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destati posted:I really, really don't see any benefit in Gavelkind. Another more experienced player may chime in but Gavelkind is just begging for a succession crisis. Gavalkind is really really good if your expanding rapidly(ie holy warring), larger demesne means more troops and more of your conquests go to your demesne. While the penalty is irrelevant as you need to give out all the land your taking anyways. All that land your splitting up is going to dynasty members anyways, so who cares. It also is good in that your vassals demesnes will be breaking apart, so you can prevent super dukes from forming. Basically, gavalkind is for Spain.(and yes, form the other Spanish kingdoms, realize that an ally is more valuable troop wise than a vassal, and your allies will pretty much always come if you are fighting heathens so yeah.) WhitemageofDOOM fucked around with this message at Jun 17, 2012 around 23:46 |
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My best game was uniting Ireland. I had an old nice king that everyone liked. As soon as he died, my dynasty descended in a violent and bloody series of civil wars that lasted for 20 years and left half of my dynasty dead. My sons held major dukedoms and counties within Ireland, while my nephews were Dukes in Scotland and Orkney respectively. The heir who inherited the throne was a cruel bastard that no-one liked, sparking a revolt lead by his younger brother, Siward. After about 5 years of warfare, "the impaler" was forced to abdicate in favor of Siward. Unfortunately, Siward was bonked on the head in the last decisive battle for the crown and was infirm. Cue the distant relative, the Duke of Orkney who claims the throne and invades with a stack of 10,000 men with support from Scotland. Siward dies comatose in bed, Impaler becomes king once again - but abdicates AGAIN to his cousin, the duke of Orkney after a few pitiful efforts of resistance by a war exhausted Ireland. Orkney only rules for a couple of years till he is mysteriously assassinated. The evil impaler son becomes King of Ireland for the third time. People still hate him, so his vassals rise up in revolt, including another one of his cousins. For the third and final time, the Impaler is ousted from power and his younger fatso cousin gets the crown. King Fatso dies shortly after putting his 12-year old Scottish daughter, Mary, on the throne. The realm rises up against her rule - only to be ruthlessly put down by little Mary, who grows up to be a fearsome warrior Queeen that finally brings peace to Ireland after approximately 24 years of civil war and inter-dynastic feuding. About 2/3rds of all the male dynasty members were either killed in battle, died from war wounds, or were assassinated. I think what I learned is that you should never give family members who have claims on the throne too large or powerful fiefdoms. Rulers personalities matter a lot as well.
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At some point in my Kingdom of Navarra game, I switched to Portuguese and then to Catalan culture, so I'm not entirely sure, but what the gently caress kinda name is Reverter? Also Hop; my queen gave birth to two boys named Hop and I am so confused, and I had to assassinate the first one because he was the heir and gently caress him, the kingdom of Navarra was not going to be ruled by some dude named Hop 
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| # ? Jun 18, 2012 00:24 |
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The Cathar heresy ruined this game. I was force converted and immediately wiped off the earth. Oh well.
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