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Network Pesci
Aug 30, 2012


One from Avengers: When Captain America is fistfighting Loki in Germany, Black Widow is overhead in a SHIELD gunship. As Iron Man comes to join the fight, he hacks the gunship's PA system to play "Shoot to Thrill". Look at Captain America's expression when he first hears the music just before Iron Man lands. To us, AC/DC is classic rock, they play it on oldies stations these days. But Captain America doesn't even recognize it as music, to him, Frank Sinatra is as metal as it can get and still be called music, and AC/DC is just some godawful racket.

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Ozz81
Aug 30, 2006



mind the walrus posted:

It was immediately apparent to anyone who knows the character that he wasn't using alcohol as a salve except in that one scene where he's getting a bottle of wine out of his GIANT cooler and that Marvel/Disney went out of their way to expunge any alcohol abuse from his character. It's pretty sad, in a way. The movie was rife with great characterization and character development regardless, but there's almost something inherently pitiful about our society when the need for marketing exceeds the need to be honest about the human experience. Not to say Iron Man 3 wasn't honest, at least via the character Tony Stark... just that it could have been a nice commentary on vice and wealth in relation to genuine issues like PTSD and trying to be a better human being.

I dunno...in the first and second movies he's still shown drinking alcohol, sometimes to excess. I think it was in 2 that he was in one of his suits at this big party, and very visibly drunk off his rear end, and Rhodie ended up getting in a fight with him. I can understand the PTSD stuff and it would fit with his character considering what he's been through, but Marvel/Disney never really outright took booze out of the equation as far as I could tell.

Anyways, I watched Shutter Island a second time and at the very end, something stuck out more - when Laeddis is talking with Sheehan, right after his "don't worry partner" line. It appears that Laeddis has regressed, but to me it sounded more like he said that line on purpose, and something finally clicked that made him NOT want to keep acting out events, remembering the deaths of his wife and kids, and going through a whole role play every few months. When he looked at Sheehan and said "Which would be worse...to live as a monster, or die as a good man?" and gave him a little glance, his expression changed slightly and he never responded after when he was called Teddy.

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.


I guess I didn't notice this in the 2009 Trek, but I finally noticed it last night when watching Into Darkness.

I knew the "basic" uniform shirts they all wear has some kind of textured pattern to it, but I didn't notice until last night that the pattern is a poo poo-ton of little repeated "Starfleet logos, just like their badges.

Nikaer Drekin
Oct 11, 2012


mind the walrus posted:

It was immediately apparent to anyone who knows the character that he wasn't using alcohol as a salve except in that one scene where he's getting a bottle of wine out of his GIANT cooler and that Marvel/Disney went out of their way to expunge any alcohol abuse from his character. It's pretty sad, in a way. The movie was rife with great characterization and character development regardless, but there's almost something inherently pitiful about our society when the need for marketing exceeds the need to be honest about the human experience. Not to say Iron Man 3 wasn't honest, at least via the character Tony Stark... just that it could have been a nice commentary on vice and wealth in relation to genuine issues like PTSD and trying to be a better human being.

Uh, did you miss the part in the beginning of 3 where Tony blows off Guy Pearce's character at least in part because he's drunk off his rear end?

Coffee And Pie
Nov 4, 2010

"Blah-sum"?
More like "Blawesome"


Didn't they resolve the alcoholism subplot in 2? I remember there was a pretty good post about it, pointing out how his new arc reactor was made to look like an AA token.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly representing vanilla Legends since 1994


Coffee And Pie posted:

Didn't they resolve the alcoholism subplot in 2? I remember there was a pretty good post about it, pointing out how his new arc reactor was made to look like an AA token.

Yes, but the start of Iron Man 3 takes place in 1999.

muscles like this?
Jan 17, 2005

BOGGLE?



DrBouvenstein posted:

I guess I didn't notice this in the 2009 Trek, but I finally noticed it last night when watching Into Darkness.

I knew the "basic" uniform shirts they all wear has some kind of textured pattern to it, but I didn't notice until last night that the pattern is a poo poo-ton of little repeated "Starfleet logos, just like their badges.

Fun non-spoiler moment from Into Darkness is how in a scene with Scotty hanging out in a bar he's dressed as the spitting image of Gene Roddenberry in the 70s.

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

What?


Ozz81 posted:

Anyways, I watched Shutter Island a second time and at the very end, something stuck out more - when Laeddis is talking with Sheehan, right after his "don't worry partner" line. It appears that Laeddis has regressed, but to me it sounded more like he said that line on purpose, and something finally clicked that made him NOT want to keep acting out events, remembering the deaths of his wife and kids, and going through a whole role play every few months. When he looked at Sheehan and said "Which would be worse...to live as a monster, or die as a good man?" and gave him a little glance, his expression changed slightly and he never responded after when he was called Teddy.

Notably, this is different from the end of the book, where Laeddis has just clearly regressed and there's no option left but to go through with the lobotomy. The movie's ending significantly changes the tone of the whole scene.

Nikaer Drekin
Oct 11, 2012


DrBouvenstein posted:

I guess I didn't notice this in the 2009 Trek, but I finally noticed it last night when watching Into Darkness.

I knew the "basic" uniform shirts they all wear has some kind of textured pattern to it, but I didn't notice until last night that the pattern is a poo poo-ton of little repeated "Starfleet logos, just like their badges.

Different movie, but on a similar note- the opening credits sequence for Casino Royale is stuffed to the brim with gambling and cart suit symbols; bad guys bleeding hearts, diamonds as flying blades, etc. Well, one little touch I didn't notice until I watched it on Blu-Ray is that, at one point, a screen pops up reading "James Bond: 007 Status Confirmed". Each tiny pixel on this screen is a club.

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Low Desert Punk
Jul 4, 2012

Waiting for a coconut to drop.


In Dredd, one of the conditions given to Anderson is that she has to retain control of her primary weapon, and of course if this isn't accomplished, she fails and does not become a Judge.

Just to show Dredd's mastery of his life as a Judge, when he's fighting the corrupt Judges, he never once lets his weapon get taken away from him, or drops it. In the fight with Alvarez, he only lets go of his weapon in order to buy more time so Anderson can shoot Alvarez.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly representing vanilla Legends since 1994


Low Desert Punk posted:

In Dredd, one of the conditions given to Anderson is that she has to retain control of her primary weapon, and of course if this isn't accomplished, she fails and does not become a Judge.

Just to show Dredd's mastery of his life as a Judge, when he's fighting the corrupt Judges, he never once lets his weapon get taken away from him, or drops it. In the fight with Alvarez, he only lets go of his weapon in order to buy more time so Anderson can shoot Alvarez.

More importantly, Anderson has her Lawgiver taken from her by a perp, but Dredd doesn't fail her. He recognises that as a telepath, her primary weapon isn't her gun.

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Zamboni_Rodeo
Jul 19, 2007

The Canadians heard us
making fun of them, and got all
fucked up on hockey.


1stGear posted:

Notably, this is different from the end of the book, where Laeddis has just clearly regressed and there's no option left but to go through with the lobotomy. The movie's ending significantly changes the tone of the whole scene.

I think I actually prefer the movie ending to the book. To me it's more ambiguous and left to the viewer to decide which is the truth. I liked the book but I didn't care for how the ending was spelled out for the reader.

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