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ACID POLICE
Dec 21, 2008



If anyone isn't aware, some of the latest Gigabyte H77 and Z77 boards work without the need for any DSDT :O

I just built myself one with a GA-H77 DS3H and i5 3570K. It's insane with Lion!

There's also beta support for the HD4000 Ivy Bridge graphics now, haven't really looked into/tried out the other integrated Intel graphics though.

edit: It's very true anyone interested should be looking through TonymacX86 and not here

ACID POLICE fucked around with this message at Jul 18, 2012 around 00:47

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FlashBangBob
Jul 5, 2007

BLAM! Internet Found!

So, I'm very interested in trying to get a Hackintosh setup. I'd like to build a solid gaming rig, but super top of the line is not required. I've followed a lot of parts from tonymacx's Sandy Bridge guide and have gotten this in my cart:



I have a 120 GB Agility 3 SSD that I'd put in here, anything that doesn't look right or missing?

Experto Crede
Aug 19, 2008

Mod Secrets #281 - FrancisYorkPatty is the one who bought most of those frog avatars


FlashBangBob posted:

So, I'm very interested in trying to get a Hackintosh setup. I'd like to build a solid gaming rig, but super top of the line is not required. I've followed a lot of parts from tonymacx's Sandy Bridge guide and have gotten this in my cart:



I have a 120 GB Agility 3 SSD that I'd put in here, anything that doesn't look right or missing?

My only suggestion is that, if you can afford it, get an extra 4Gb in there. OS X is a memory sucking little whore at times.

Shaocaholica
Oct 29, 2002


IF ONLY MY $2300 MONITOR COULD DISPLAY THE REASON THAT I AM LITERALLY UNABLE TO STOP GODDAMN POSTING

FlashBangBob posted:

So, I'm very interested in trying to get a Hackintosh setup. I'd like to build a solid gaming rig, but super top of the line is not required.

No to be a dick but I'm having trouble putting hackintosh, solid, and gaming-rig together? Sounds a bit masochistic. Or do you mean to game in Windows?

Blackula69
Apr 1, 2007

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Turns out my graphics card is unsupported so it only runs in 1024 x 768. Welp.

johnnyXcrane
Aug 16, 2011


Experto Crede posted:

My only suggestion is that, if you can afford it, get an extra 4Gb in there. OS X is a memory sucking little whore at times.

Thats the most annoying thing on OS X. Every browser seems to have a memory leak.

FlashBangBob
Jul 5, 2007

BLAM! Internet Found!

Shaocaholica posted:

No to be a dick but I'm having trouble putting hackintosh, solid, and gaming-rig together? Sounds a bit masochistic. Or do you mean to game in Windows?
I like OS X and don't need or have the cash to put up for a large iMac. I was more trying to let you know that I didn't need ivy bridge or the best graphics card.

Thanks for the advice, though.

FlashBangBob
Jul 5, 2007

BLAM! Internet Found!

So I had a case and power supply that I got from my brother, and I ordered the new motherboard, gpu, memory (I did pay an extra $10 and got 1600 8 gb ram), and the CPU. Can't wait to start having fun.

Shaocaholica
Oct 29, 2002


IF ONLY MY $2300 MONITOR COULD DISPLAY THE REASON THAT I AM LITERALLY UNABLE TO STOP GODDAMN POSTING

FlashBangBob posted:

I like OS X and don't need or have the cash to put up for a large iMac. I was more trying to let you know that I didn't need ivy bridge or the best graphics card.

Thanks for the advice, though.

I'm honestly curious if there's a big hackintosh gaming thing happening. Has OS X gaming gotten much better since 2010?

ACID POLICE
Dec 21, 2008



FlashBangBob posted:

So, I'm very interested in trying to get a Hackintosh setup. I'd like to build a solid gaming rig, but super top of the line is not required. I've followed a lot of parts from tonymacx's Sandy Bridge guide and have gotten this in my cart:



I have a 120 GB Agility 3 SSD that I'd put in here, anything that doesn't look right or missing?

if you're buying new, why aren't you buying ivy bridge? the cost different to get a H77 or Z77 motherboard is very little, you can even keep that CPU if you want, but the newer chipsets work right out of the box.

FlashBangBob
Jul 5, 2007

BLAM! Internet Found!

Cost was the biggest concern. I was trying to keep it on a Mac Mini budget of $600. I don't do any processor intensive activities. If I would have really upgraded something, it would have been the graphics.

I wasn't aware that the ivy bridge chipsets were going to work with the sandy bridge models, that makes sense when you say it though. Oh well, it's not the end of the world.

Finally, can you restore a time machine backup that was made on like a Mac Mini or other Mac onto a Hackintosh?

FlashBangBob
Jul 5, 2007

BLAM! Internet Found!

Shaocaholica posted:

I'm honestly curious if there's a big hackintosh gaming thing happening. Has OS X gaming gotten much better since 2010?

I'm not exclusively looking to use this machine as a gaming machine. I like OS X better than Windows. It was really just that simple. If I wanted to load up a game from time to time, however, I didn't want the lowest settings to be my only option.

Martytoof
Feb 25, 2003



Awesome.

Awesome to
the MAX.



Shaocaholica posted:

I'm honestly curious if there's a big hackintosh gaming thing happening. Has OS X gaming gotten much better since 2010?

There are more games that run on OSX now with Steam and all, but I wouldn't say it's experiencing any sort of renaissance. It's still mostly poo poo.

But the ability to boot into Windows to play something is there. I boot my machine just about every day or every other day to get a round of BF3 in.

Shaocaholica
Oct 29, 2002


IF ONLY MY $2300 MONITOR COULD DISPLAY THE REASON THAT I AM LITERALLY UNABLE TO STOP GODDAMN POSTING

Martytoof posted:

There are more games that run on OSX now with Steam and all, but I wouldn't say it's experiencing any sort of renaissance. It's still mostly poo poo.

But the ability to boot into Windows to play something is there. I boot my machine just about every day or every other day to get a round of BF3 in.

Good to know. I actually just emailed Anand about a revisit to his OSX vs Windows Steam performance article back in 2010 and he says he'll try to start on it next week.

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

I doubt performance differential is much better but hey at least we finally got new GPUs after 18 whole months of the 5870 being the premiere OS X video card.

July 3, 2010 - leaked 5870 drivers the month before the 2010 Mac Pro launched. The 5870 is obsoleted a few months later.

Feb 27th, 2012 - NVidia releases their own self-initing Fermi driver (Apple would go on to block the driver in the 10.7.4 update, so NVidia released a new driver the week after that)

Today - if you rely solely on Apple official products then the 5870 is still the best video card you can get.

Djarum
Apr 1, 2004

I promise, that one day, everything's going to be better for you.


Well I can say that Apple really worked on video performance in 10.8. Things work a lot better across the board on it which should help with games in general.

Demie
Apr 2, 2004


Shaocaholica posted:

I'm honestly curious if there's a big hackintosh gaming thing happening. Has OS X gaming gotten much better since 2010?

you can install Steam for mac and play every steam game that you've bought, that happens to have a mac version on there. Lots of those indie bundle games work great, if you have them.

But I played through Witcher 1 and could tell that it's in a virtual machine :I

Sevron
Jul 4, 2007

Nobody of consequence

Every time I try to play a game in OS X since putting the GTX 570 card in, I get this weirds graphical glitch:

no amount of fiddling with settings seems to fix it. Is my video card bad, or is something else afoot?

Experto Crede
Aug 19, 2008

Mod Secrets #281 - FrancisYorkPatty is the one who bought most of those frog avatars


Mountain Lion GM is out. Fire up that copy of Carbon Copy Cloner, people!

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

Restored Base System and Install ESD/Packages to a fresh partition.
Installed latest RC of Chameleon 2.1.
Booted into the install partition and installed System 10.8.
A recent-ish MultiBeast installed sound drivers and my Intel Ethernet. My GTX 580 was recognised out of the box.

All good so far!

Martytoof
Feb 25, 2003



Awesome.

Awesome to
the MAX.



Experto Crede posted:

Mountain Lion GM is out. Fire up that copy of Carbon Copy Cloner, people!

Way ahead of you

Going to hack this weekend. Maybe these next few days will give Insanelymac (since tonymac has a strict no-unreleaed policy) some time to build an ASUS P6T x58 GM guide.

Experto Crede
Aug 19, 2008

Mod Secrets #281 - FrancisYorkPatty is the one who bought most of those frog avatars


Martytoof posted:

Way ahead of you

Going to hack this weekend. Maybe these next few days will give Insanelymac (since tonymac has a strict no-unreleaed policy) some time to build an ASUS P6T x58 GM guide.

I'm just planning to use rBoot and install multibeast's kext and chimera, hope that works. Even if it doesn't, I have my Lion Unibeast drive to hand, but still

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Experto Crede
Aug 19, 2008

Mod Secrets #281 - FrancisYorkPatty is the one who bought most of those frog avatars


Oh, hey guys.




Still some tweaking needed, but I upgraded my existing Lion install using myhack with the GM dmg and everything still works fine, but I need to setup my smbios and such. That aside, all good as far as I can tell...

EDIT: A bit more in-depth now. SMBIOS running fine, seeing it as a MacPro3,1. App Store works, Dictation works. VoodooHDA and RTL81xx kexts both working without a hitch.

The only issue thus far is that System Preferences won't let me access Security and Privacy settings. I click it, and it will just say "Loading Security and Privacy" in the title bar and then never open. I'll delve a bit deeper, but all told, that's the only problem, everything else runs just as well as Lion did, and no kext issues from what I can see.

Experto Crede fucked around with this message at Jul 11, 2012 around 14:03

Rekka
Feb 1, 2004

oh god, it's.... THE DOOOO!

I have a Clevo w150ER (Same laptop, different brand actually).

Anyone seen any news on if this will work as a Hackintosh laptop? I've installed two hard disks inside. Its got an Ivy Bridge cpu, 8 gb ram, 650m + intel 4000 (optimus). It seems like a pretty popular new laptop, think it will work out of the box with 10.8 or 10.7.5 or something?

johnnyXcrane
Aug 16, 2011


Hey, i want to do a hackintosh now.

Thats my hardware:
Gigabyte GA-P55-UD3L
Intel Core i5-760 Box 8192Kb, LGA1156
4GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3-1333 CL9
MSI N450GTS Cylone 1GD5/OC, 1024MB, GDDR5, PCI-Express

Which installer/loader should i use for it?
And should i use the Mountain Lion GM already?

Techokami
Nov 12, 2007

For use only on NTSC Genesis Systems.


Looks like I joined the Hackintosh crowd today.

So far I'm enjoying it as an alternate OS to my Windows 7 and 8 Release Preview installs. Too bad my wifi card hasn't been supported since Leopard, and only 32bit kexts for it are available. Ah well, my xbox can live without internet for now.

Demie
Apr 2, 2004


johnnyXcrane posted:

Hey, i want to do a hackintosh now.

Thats my hardware:
Gigabyte GA-P55-UD3L
Intel Core i5-760 Box 8192Kb, LGA1156
4GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3-1333 CL9
MSI N450GTS Cylone 1GD5/OC, 1024MB, GDDR5, PCI-Express

Which installer/loader should i use for it?
And should i use the Mountain Lion GM already?

I would say, wait till ML goes final, and Tonymac should come out with a Multibeast for it. I think they're waiting until ML is officially out. They should have a stable DSDT and drivers for that mobo, it's gigabyte.

Martytoof
Feb 25, 2003



Awesome.

Awesome to
the MAX.



I would imagine that they (or someone at tony) already have a guide waiting for that particular mobo, they just have a really strict no-NDA-breaking policy.

Just tried to install 10.8 on my hackintosh but loving chameleon hates my 6870 now. I basically gave up for now until 10.8 comes out and I can post on tony about it.

ACID POLICE
Dec 21, 2008



Experto Crede posted:

Oh, hey guys.




Still some tweaking needed, but I upgraded my existing Lion install using myhack with the GM dmg and everything still works fine, but I need to setup my smbios and such. That aside, all good as far as I can tell...

EDIT: A bit more in-depth now. SMBIOS running fine, seeing it as a MacPro3,1. App Store works, Dictation works. VoodooHDA and RTL81xx kexts both working without a hitch.

The only issue thus far is that System Preferences won't let me access Security and Privacy settings. I click it, and it will just say "Loading Security and Privacy" in the title bar and then never open. I'll delve a bit deeper, but all told, that's the only problem, everything else runs just as well as Lion did, and no kext issues from what I can see.

What mobo are you using? I really want to use the GM but i'm afraid something will get screwed up, even though I'm on a GA H77 DS3H (one of the boards that works sans DSDT) and a Gigabyte HD 6450 (it seems like some people using other branded 6450's are having issues though)

p.s. anyone debating if you should build a hackintosh, you can do this for under $600 :o



johnnyXcrane posted:

Hey, i want to do a hackintosh now.

Thats my hardware:
Gigabyte GA-P55-UD3L
Intel Core i5-760 Box 8192Kb, LGA1156
4GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3-1333 CL9
MSI N450GTS Cylone 1GD5/OC, 1024MB, GDDR5, PCI-Express

Which installer/loader should i use for it?
And should i use the Mountain Lion GM already?

I'm almost positive everything you need is already in Uni/Multibeast, either way they have your mobo in the DSDT database, I'd get you some more specific links to post here but I don't know what revision your board is

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invid
Dec 19, 2002


What would be a recommended nVidia based graphic card to go with a new Z77/Ivy setup? I'm looking at the GTX 570, or should I just get the more expensive GTX 670. The rig will be mainly used for video, 3d rendering, photoshop, after effects etc. I also plan to dual-boot into Win 7 for D3, WoW, Steam etc.

My assumption is that nVidia based cards will be supported when Mountain Lion goes retail, as I intend to run ML on the new rig.

ACID POLICE
Dec 21, 2008



invid posted:

What would be a recommended nVidia based graphic card to go with a new Z77/Ivy setup? I'm looking at the GTX 570, or should I just get the more expensive GTX 670. The rig will be mainly used for video, 3d rendering, photoshop, after effects etc. I also plan to dual-boot into Win 7 for D3, WoW, Steam etc.

My assumption is that nVidia based cards will be supported when Mountain Lion goes retail, as I intend to run ML on the new rig.

it can vary from gpu to gpu (and even from manufacturer to manufacturer), so it's best to go somewhere like tony to see what cards people are using and find one that a lot of people say works well out of the box.

my understanding though is that nVidia is (in general) pretty well supported. i use a 6450 myself, but i'm building another goon a hackintosh with a geforce 210, which took less hacking to get working.

http://www.tonymacx86.com/viewforum.php?f=15
http://www.tonymacx86.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=11366

invid
Dec 19, 2002


ACID POLICE posted:

it can vary from gpu to gpu (and even from manufacturer to manufacturer), so it's best to go somewhere like tony to see what cards people are using and find one that a lot of people say works well out of the box.

my understanding though is that nVidia is (in general) pretty well supported. i use a 6450 myself, but i'm building another goon a hackintosh with a geforce 210, which took less hacking to get working.

http://www.tonymacx86.com/viewforum.php?f=15
http://www.tonymacx86.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=11366

Sounds like it might work, I guess it is best to just wait since I am in no hurry.

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

Assuming you get a high end card like a 570 or 670, games like D3 and WoW will run perfectly under OS X. One of the best advantages of a Hack, there's no need to dual boot because you can overcome the performance deficit with brute power.

Given that you also want to run pro apps I would research quite carefully which cards are and are not supported for OpenCL under 10.8. I believe there are a few weird things like cards with >=2GB VRAM not working properly, plus oddities like high end cards being outperformed by low end parts.

BrettRobb
Jul 3, 2004

Four measures of cheap Vodka combined with a bottle of Bawls™

I actually rated higher in geekbench in osx, than in windows 7. Not sure if this is normally the case, but at least I knew I was on the right track.

However, my osx boot has been unused ever since I got it running smooth. Just find the back and forth between it and windows to be annoying, and I never pulled the trigger on getting an airport compatible card.

invid
Dec 19, 2002


~Coxy posted:

Assuming you get a high end card like a 570 or 670, games like D3 and WoW will run perfectly under OS X. One of the best advantages of a Hack, there's no need to dual boot because you can overcome the performance deficit with brute power.

Given that you also want to run pro apps I would research quite carefully which cards are and are not supported for OpenCL under 10.8. I believe there are a few weird things like cards with >=2GB VRAM not working properly, plus oddities like high end cards being outperformed by low end parts.

Good suggestion, I was worried that gaming performance on Mac OS X wont be up to standard as on a Windows platform especially when running an Ivy/Z77 setup.

It seems that the AMD 6870 is the highest(?) end card that is regularly recommended and is quite stable, but, I do want to utilize CUDA/OpenCL.

ilc23
Jun 30, 2012


I gave away my hackintosh to my computer illiterate best friend.

This may be something really stupid I just did.

BrettRobb
Jul 3, 2004

Four measures of cheap Vodka combined with a bottle of Bawls™

I see ubuntu in that computers future

Martytoof
Feb 25, 2003



Awesome.

Awesome to
the MAX.



invid posted:

Good suggestion, I was worried that gaming performance on Mac OS X wont be up to standard as on a Windows platform especially when running an Ivy/Z77 setup.

It seems that the AMD 6870 is the highest(?) end card that is regularly recommended and is quite stable, but, I do want to utilize CUDA/OpenCL.

I have a 6870 and new versions of Chameleon have basically made my life a living hell, for what it's worth. I'd hold off on this recommendation until 10.8 comes out and people can freely talk about it on tonymac.

Foiltha
Jun 12, 2008


GTX 560 Ti also works out of the box with the official NVIDIA drivers as long as you're running 10.7.3. I think you might need to patch to make OpenCL work though.

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ACID POLICE
Dec 21, 2008



It's not too hard to find a card that works out of the box, I mean typically the hardware you'd be reccomended is stuff that either Apple has used in their machines or hardware supported by their drivers (the case for the 6450, at least when I got it, I believe). So, there's no performance decrease from running the same cards in Windows or whatever (unless there isn't QE/CI support for the GPU you're trying to use, in which case yeah you will take a notable performance hit)

Like I just got a Zotac GeForce 210 running perfectly and I didn't need to do a thing.

http://www.tonymacx86.com/wiki/inde...cs_Acceleration

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