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Kalix
May 8, 2009


This is a super general question:

I have a Macbook Air 2010. I want to upgrade sometime soon and was eyeing the 15inch retinaMBP -- but i'd like to wait for it to be cheaper.

Part of my desire to upgrade is that I want more power. I carry my laptop everywhere, but I do appreciate screen real estate.

I'm basically torn between, Hackintosh and buying as many monitors as I can + a macbook laptop or saving the money and just getting a rMBP.

I was looking at the Hackintosh because it seems cost effective and I'll have as much power as I want.

I realistically don't need a lot; I really just need more Ram and a better CPU than this core2duo.

But I tend to look at lot of documents, videos and other stuff simultaneously.

A rMBP could be plugged into a couple of external and the screen on the laptop itself is a huge bonus.

I'm not in a huge rush - but a Hackintosh would mean I could start sooner than waiting for a newer rMBP...

Kalix fucked around with this message at Nov 6, 2012 around 05:41

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The Cosby Mysteries
Oct 4, 2007

Happy Birthday, Mr. President

ACID POLICE posted:

10.8 has no problem with sandy bridge - 10.7 did sandy bridge fine and 10.8 does ivy bridge natively

you should not go straight from 10.6 to 10.8 in an upgrade though. it is possible for things to get really broken that way even on an actual Mac, i'd recommend you save what you need and reinstall 10.8 from scratch with UniBeast/MultiBeast. follow some guides on the forums of tonymac for your motherboard/video card specifically.

e: i would think your best bet is to make a UniBeast 10.8 usb drive on a system that works and boot from that on your PC. try booting with -x, it might let you get into your OS with less errors

Thanks for that Acid Police I've tried that and Mountain Lion is running much more smoothly than Snow Leopard.

I've got another question though, I've installed the Cuda drivers and Multibeast kext for my graphics card (Asus NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560) but for some reason when playing flash videos it randomly freezes. I have to click on it again for it to continue but it seems like I can only play videos for a certain period of time before it just stops playing. Is there a particular reason for this? Flash Player was downloaded and I also don't have audio running yet but the network connection seems to be fine.

invid
Dec 19, 2002


Kalix posted:

This is a super general question:

I have a Macbook Air 2010. I want to upgrade sometime soon and was eyeing the 15inch retinaMBP -- but i'd like to wait for it to be cheaper.

Part of my desire to upgrade is that I want more power. I carry my laptop everywhere, but I do appreciate screen real estate.

I'm basically torn between, Hackintosh and buying as many monitors as I can + a macbook laptop or saving the money and just getting a rMBP.

I was looking at the Hackintosh because it seems cost effective and I'll have as much power as I want.

I realistically don't need a lot; I really just need more Ram and a better CPU than this core2duo.

But I tend to look at lot of documents, videos and other stuff simultaneously.

A rMBP could be plugged into a couple of external and the screen on the laptop itself is a huge bonus.

I'm not in a huge rush - but a Hackintosh would mean I could start sooner than waiting for a newer rMBP...

I think it generally depends on whether you need the portability aspect of a laptop or more of a desktop like machine.

With that being mentioned, i think a Hackintosh Mac-Mini build might suit your budget and needs. TonyMacx86 has a great guide to build one here: http://www.tonymacx86.com/248-build...-mini-2012.html

Demie
Apr 2, 2004


The Cosby Mysteries posted:

Thanks for that Acid Police I've tried that and Mountain Lion is running much more smoothly than Snow Leopard.

I've got another question though, I've installed the Cuda drivers and Multibeast kext for my graphics card (Asus NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560) but for some reason when playing flash videos it randomly freezes. I have to click on it again for it to continue but it seems like I can only play videos for a certain period of time before it just stops playing. Is there a particular reason for this? Flash Player was downloaded and I also don't have audio running yet but the network connection seems to be fine.

CUDA drivers have nothing to do with this, you want to install Nvidia Quadro drivers and patch them to work with OpenCL. You might have to do it manually if MB doesn't cut it.

example here

http://www.tonymacx86.com/221-new-n...ntain-lion.html

Shane-O-Mac
May 24, 2006

Hypnopompic bees are extra scary. They turn into guns.


It seems like the Hackintosh community has made enough progress on the Lenovo Y580 (laptop) for me to give it a shot. I'll be installing Mountain Lion and Windows 7 onto a single 500GB drive. I'm following this guide (search for the section that says "Installing Win7 and Lion on the same HDD").

My problem is that I have an existing Windows installation that I don't want to get rid of. Is there a way for me to clone the entire installation, then place it onto the newly-created Windows partition?

Along the same lines, how should I partition my hard drive for the dual-boot? I mean in terms of using it for a hackintosh, and just in general. For example, should I just make it half OSX and half Windows, or should there be other partitions for storage, backup, etc? I know that the dual-boot process will make some small partitions. I'm not including those in my question.

Experto Crede
Aug 19, 2008

Mod Secrets #281 - FrancisYorkPatty is the one who bought most of those frog avatars


Shane-O-Mac posted:

It seems like the Hackintosh community has made enough progress on the Lenovo Y580 (laptop) for me to give it a shot. I'll be installing Mountain Lion and Windows 7 onto a single 500GB drive. I'm following this guide (search for the section that says "Installing Win7 and Lion on the same HDD").

My problem is that I have an existing Windows installation that I don't want to get rid of. Is there a way for me to clone the entire installation, then place it onto the newly-created Windows partition?

Along the same lines, how should I partition my hard drive for the dual-boot? I mean in terms of using it for a hackintosh, and just in general. For example, should I just make it half OSX and half Windows, or should there be other partitions for storage, backup, etc? I know that the dual-boot process will make some small partitions. I'm not including those in my question.

The consensus is pretty much that you need to have windows installed first anyway. To resize it, download ubuntu, make a live usb/cd/whatever and use the included GParted app to resize your ntfs partition to the correct size, then follow your guide.

Shane-O-Mac
May 24, 2006

Hypnopompic bees are extra scary. They turn into guns.


Experto Crede posted:

The consensus is pretty much that you need to have windows installed first anyway. To resize it, download ubuntu, make a live usb/cd/whatever and use the included GParted app to resize your ntfs partition to the correct size, then follow your guide.

Ooh I didn't even think about resizing it, thanks! I'll still clone my current installation just in case I gently caress it up. I'd still like some info on which cloning software to use, and on how I should partition my drive, if anybody's offering it.

Experto Crede
Aug 19, 2008

Mod Secrets #281 - FrancisYorkPatty is the one who bought most of those frog avatars


Shane-O-Mac posted:

Ooh I didn't even think about resizing it, thanks! I'll still clone my current installation just in case I gently caress it up. I'd still like some info on which cloning software to use, and on how I should partition my drive, if anybody's offering it.

Again, in linux, the dd command will be your best friend for cloning. If you're not too comfortable in the terminal there are plenty of GUIs that'll do the job.

(Also, good job on cloning, the amount of posts that go along the lines of "I borked my system, have no clone, halp! " around the place is unbelievable.)

EDIT: In fact, just added a bit to the OP about cloning because you brought it up, also because I told martyoof I would and I don't want to let him down

Experto Crede fucked around with this message at Nov 21, 2012 around 01:09

Martytoof
Feb 25, 2003



Awesome.

Awesome to
the MAX.



That's RIGHT, you WOULDN'T


Shane-O-Mac
May 24, 2006

Hypnopompic bees are extra scary. They turn into guns.


poo poo, I may have a problem. Setting up dual boot requires that I have a GUID partition table, but I'm currently using msdos. I already made a backup of my current Windows installation using Acronis True Image. What should I do? If I reformat my hard drive with a GUID partition table, would I be able to restore my backup? Would it reset the partition table to msdos? Would it not work at all? Thanks for all the help so far.

Lynxifer
Jan 2, 2005
Comedy "Buttsecks" Option

So I have a question I think is best suited for this thread over the Mac Hardware Thread; I have a MacPro3,1 running Mountain Lion, but I'm stuck with the Nvidia 285GTX Mac edition, which kinda sucks rear end a little bit these days.
I'm looking to upgrade the card to something a little newer from Nvidia, and I keep seeing people commenting on the latest nvidia drivers and saying "Oh this supports the 680GTX out the box" yet, I can't find anything definitive.

I'd love to upgrade the card, but don't want to sink money on a device that wont work at all. Can anyone give me any advice as to this?

Martytoof
Feb 25, 2003



Awesome.

Awesome to
the MAX.



I don't have an actual answer for you, but just remember that whatever non-EFI card you put in, you will see nothing but a black screen until the OS loads the drivers, so things like the apple logo, boot selection, safe mode, recovery partition, they'll all be unavailable to you unless you a) do them blind, b) swap in your old video card.

Also, netkas.org does a lot of work retrofitting video cards into actual Macs in addition to Hacks, I believe, so they might be able to provide you a better answer. Check their forums if you can't find anything on the main site.

Martytoof fucked around with this message at Nov 24, 2012 around 20:06

joe944
Jan 31, 2004

What does not destroy me makes me stronger.


I've got an old lenovo T510 with the i5 that seems like a good fit for a hackintosh. I'm planning to throw an ssd in it eventually but I figured I'd do a proof of concept with the current setup first. I work only with linux and have nfs shares at home so I'm trying to get rid of windows wherever possible.

I'll be attempting to install mountain lion 10.8.2 shortly. Any advice about the best way to transition to the SSD from the current drive once I get osx installed?

Edit: Awesome, that should work nicely.

joe944 fucked around with this message at Nov 24, 2012 around 21:07

Martytoof
Feb 25, 2003



Awesome.

Awesome to
the MAX.



CarbonCopyCloner or SuperDuper! will do what you want. Once you have your setup working, put the SSD in an external SATA to USB drive enclosure, run Disk Utility, format the SSD as GUID, then run CCC or SD! and clone your internal drive to the SSD. Before you make the swap just don't forget to re-run MultiBeast on the new drive to reinstall the bootloader which won't be migrated over. You can either install the bootloader from MultiBeast or you can download and run the standalone bootloader installer of your choice.

I use SuperDuper which I actually purchased, but I think the nagware freeware version will do basic cloning without being paid.

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


ShirtPocket uses this as a draw right on their webpage for SuperDuper (emphasis mine):

ShirtPocket posted:

You can download SuperDuper! v2.7.1 right now and back up and clone your drives for free— forever!

Regarding the nVidia 680GTX, as soon as there's actually a shipping Mac with a 680-based card (the 680MX available as an option in the high end new iMac) they (Netkas et. al) can copy the EFI-compatible video ROM from it and modify it to be flashable to a retail PC card version, especially since the mobile version in the iMac is just a downclocked version of the desktop version. And then you'll get all that stuff you miss out on that you mentioned- visible single user boot, recovery partition, etc.

Edit: Just wait and eventually there'll be a post on netkas.org about how to flash a particular card model to Mac compatibility. It all depends on whether the card manufacturer follows the reference specs closely or not; sometimes they'll skimp on the flash ram needed to hold the EFI/video BIOS, sometimes not. In most cases the video BIOS is larger for a Mac-specific card, if the manufacturer decides "Eh, we can save $2 per card if we only include 32 or 64 MB of flash RAM instead of 128 MB" and ships a card without enough flash RAM then the card is useless for Mac purposes or can only function after OSX is loaded.

Binary Badger fucked around with this message at Nov 25, 2012 around 00:03

dox
Mar 4, 2006


I'm taking the dive and building my first Hackintosh. The mobo I selected seems like it is a breeze to setup based on guides at tonymacx86. My primary goal is to use this side-by-side with my Windows gaming setup using Synergy. I like OS X for mail, irc, to do lists, and rss... so I figure it'll be a good fit.

Here's my build with an SSD I already own:

Hopefully this should be really straight forward and I can inspire those with doubts!

revmoo
May 25, 2006

Reverend Moo

I am building a new DJ setup with Traktor Pro 2. Is a Hackintosh viable for such a purpose?

Martytoof
Feb 25, 2003



Awesome.

Awesome to
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revmoo posted:

I am building a new DJ setup with Traktor Pro 2. Is a Hackintosh viable for such a purpose?

A hackintosh is viable for anything that a Mac can do, but if you're going to be using it in the field then it sounds like you're looking for a mobile/laptop solution which can be slightly hairier and more trouble to get setup/working. It's far from impossible, but it's not as simple as a desktop Hack.

Moreover though, if you're going to be making money with it and need reliability you need to either be really up on the concepts behind how MacOS works in case something breaks and you need to diagnose it in the field, or you should consider a real mac where you can take it to a fruit stand and they'll either fix it for you or offer you options. Just my two cents.

revmoo
May 25, 2006

Reverend Moo

Its for a permanent setup in my house so I'm not worried about toting it. Anyway I have an asus p5q se plus with a c2d and a gtx 260 to use. Is that decent hardware to use ? What steps do I need to take to get it running? I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty on the cli if need be.

Ill be running a traktor audio 6 but since that's usb and mac compatible I assume it will just work out of the box.

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

That should be fine. The only things that tend not to work out of the box are ethernet and audio, and it looks like you only need USB audio so that's taken care of.

Action Jackson!
Sep 23, 2004



dox posted:

I'm taking the dive and building my first Hackintosh. The mobo I selected seems like it is a breeze to setup based on guides at tonymacx86. My primary goal is to use this side-by-side with my Windows gaming setup using Synergy. I like OS X for mail, irc, to do lists, and rss... so I figure it'll be a good fit.

Here's my build with an SSD I already own:


Hopefully this should be really straight forward and I can inspire those with doubts!

I just build that exact hackintosh (minus the power supply) for my wife and it works great.

revmoo
May 25, 2006

Reverend Moo

Cool well I will give it a shot. I have a bunch of different nics lying around so I'm not worried about connectivity.

nerdrum
Aug 17, 2007

where am I


Has anyone read about the 7xx0 support on Netkas? Apparently the 10.8.3 beta has support.

I'd really like my z77/i5 3570k/7750 setup to run osx right now.

concise
Aug 31, 2004

Ain't much to do
'round here.

nerdrum posted:

Has anyone read about the 7xx0 support on Netkas? Apparently the 10.8.3 beta has support.

I'd really like my z77/i5 3570k/7750 setup to run osx right now.

This would be the best thing

Demie
Apr 2, 2004


nerdrum posted:

Has anyone read about the 7xx0 support on Netkas? Apparently the 10.8.3 beta has support.

I'd really like my z77/i5 3570k/7750 setup to run osx right now.

Sounds like that 10.8.3 beta specifically has drivers for the core that's in 79xx cards. It would be cool, though. I made the mistake of doing a MicroATX build and it looks like the 7750 is the only low profile card worth using.

VISMAL
Aug 30, 2006


So I am thinking about buying these two items because I really want to build my first machine and I don't have a lot of extra money right now.

Motherboard=
Gigabyte Intel Z77 LGA 1155 Dual UEFI BIOS ATX Motherboard GA-Z77-DS3H
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007R21JWC...onymacx86com-20

Processor =
Intel Core i3-3225 Dual-Core Processor 3.3 GHz 3 MB Cache LGA 1155 - BX80637i33225
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0093H8H8I...onymacx86com-20

I have never used an i3, are they any good these days? The only computer I currently have is a 2 ghz core duo, I imagine even the i3 is a good deal better than this. It has an integrated HD 4000 GPU so I could add a video card somewhere down the line right?

I have a case power supply, ram, and hard drives so I should be able to get this going with these two and a wireless card I think, or should I wait till I can afford a video card and stronger processor off the bat?

Thanks


EDIT

I also have a PNY 8800GT video card but I am not sure about its compatibility or quality.

(http://www.amazon.com/PNY-GeForce-S...B/dp/B000XD1JJK)

VISMAL fucked around with this message at Dec 5, 2012 around 19:02

io_burn
Jul 9, 2001

Vrooooooooom!


Hey dudes,

I'm currently rocking a ~2.5 year old MacBook Pro and am starting to do the whole "Ehh I should get something new" dance looking at desktops as my iPad has replaced 99% of the mobile stuff I'd use my laptop for and am sort of put off by the glued together construction of the new iMacs. (Not to mention buying a Mac Pro these days seems beyond insane.) Are any of you guys using a Hackintosh as your real, production-level work machine? How viable is that? I mean, I don't at all mind exclusively picking parts from a Hackintosh-friendly guide.

My main experience with the whole Hackintosh ritual comes from the days of the Dell Mini 9 when everyone was hot to trot on shoehorning OSX into that. Things just seemed to break, and you'd be at the mercy of the Hackintosh community to figure it out, release a new .kext or whatever, etc. Are things still the same, or are we at the point now where if you use your brain when picking out parts all you need to do is wait for support for "big" system updates?

I guess I'm just looking for some kind of reassurance that a Hackintosh is viable as a work machine these days.

Experto Crede
Aug 19, 2008

Mod Secrets #281 - FrancisYorkPatty is the one who bought most of those frog avatars


VISMAL posted:

So I am thinking about buying these two items because I really want to build my first machine and I don't have a lot of extra money right now.

Motherboard=
Gigabyte Intel Z77 LGA 1155 Dual UEFI BIOS ATX Motherboard GA-Z77-DS3H
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007R21JWC...onymacx86com-20

Processor =
Intel Core i3-3225 Dual-Core Processor 3.3 GHz 3 MB Cache LGA 1155 - BX80637i33225
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0093H8H8I...onymacx86com-20

I have never used an i3, are they any good these days? The only computer I currently have is a 2 ghz core duo, I imagine even the i3 is a good deal better than this. It has an integrated HD 4000 GPU so I could add a video card somewhere down the line right?

I have a case power supply, ram, and hard drives so I should be able to get this going with these two and a wireless card I think, or should I wait till I can afford a video card and stronger processor off the bat?

Thanks


EDIT

I also have a PNY 8800GT video card but I am not sure about its compatibility or quality.

(http://www.amazon.com/PNY-GeForce-S...B/dp/B000XD1JJK)

What are you aiming to do exactly? If it's just basic desktop stuff (office/web/etc.) it should be fine, the card is compatible with no issues either, just set a GraphicsEnabler=Yes bootloader.

VISMAL
Aug 30, 2006


Experto Crede posted:

What are you aiming to do exactly? If it's just basic desktop stuff (office/web/etc.) it should be fine, the card is compatible with no issues either, just set a GraphicsEnabler=Yes bootloader.

Hey thanks, yea I thought I remembered reading that the card would work, thats awesome.

I mainly want to build a computer, I need a new one as my iMac is having trouble and my macbook could be in better shape as well. I am going to use this machine as my main machine doing internet movies, light photo editing and eventually some music production,all of which my macbook can handle decent enough.

I know the specs could be better but even as I listed it it should be a decent amount better than my macbook 2ghz core 2 duo with 3 gigs of ram right?

Do you think its a decent enough build keeping in mind it will cost me less than $300 or should I change out any parts?

Experto Crede
Aug 19, 2008

Mod Secrets #281 - FrancisYorkPatty is the one who bought most of those frog avatars


VISMAL posted:

Hey thanks, yea I thought I remembered reading that the card would work, thats awesome.

I mainly want to build a computer, I need a new one as my iMac is having trouble and my macbook could be in better shape as well. I am going to use this machine as my main machine doing internet movies, light photo editing and eventually some music production,all of which my macbook can handle decent enough.

I know the specs could be better but even as I listed it it should be a decent amount better than my macbook 2ghz core 2 duo with 3 gigs of ram right?

Do you think its a decent enough build keeping in mind it will cost me less than $300 or should I change out any parts?

Yeah, this build, whilst not being the most powerful will pretty much blow a C2D out of the water.

The only suggestion I'd make is the graphics card. An 8800GT is a bit long in the tooth and could be a serious bottle neck. Your listed processor has a built in Intel 4000 which is fully OS X compatible and will probably be better than a 8800GT in the sort of tasks you want to do.

VISMAL
Aug 30, 2006


So just stick with the HD 4000 GPU ON THE i3? I could just upgrade cards in a few months anyway. I just wanna get the bare minimum to get it running fairly well and upgrade as I go.

Thanks for the help.

utonium
Dec 17, 2002


I don't see anything like this in the OP, but every few months or so, Lifehacker puts up a Hackintosh Build guide. This one is from just a couple weeks ago: http://lifehacker.com/5960732/give-...ckintosh-builds

I can't say for sure if they're spot on, and it looks like all their links go to Amazon, but the PCPartPicker links are pretty cool. If you're completely lost on how to start I suppose it's handy.

For anyone planning on running Mountain Lion, you'll greatly improve your experience by throwing an SSD and 8GB of RAM in your machine.

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

io_burn posted:

My main experience with the whole Hackintosh ritual comes from the days of the Dell Mini 9 when everyone was hot to trot on shoehorning OSX into that. Things just seemed to break, and you'd be at the mercy of the Hackintosh community to figure it out, release a new .kext or whatever, etc. Are things still the same, or are we at the point now where if you use your brain when picking out parts all you need to do is wait for support for "big" system updates?

I guess I'm just looking for some kind of reassurance that a Hackintosh is viable as a work machine these days.

10.7 and 10.8 have been basically perfect.

I don't recall my 10.7 install because this thread is too young, but I'm pretty sure the point releases were quite painless.

System 10.8 installed unmodified and booted straight up using the latest release of Chameleon. Running MultiBeast gave me sound and ethernet.

Martytoof
Feb 25, 2003



Awesome.

Awesome to
the MAX.



Yeah, I basically forget that I'm running a fake mac 360 days out of the year. The other five days I'm worried about updating to the latest OS release.

And even on my Dell Mini 10v, I was pleasantly surprised by OSX 10.6 on that thing. It was pretty much flawless until Apple killed the ability to throw OSX on an Atom somehow.

Don't get me wrong, if I had $2000 I'd buy a fancy rear end iMac and not give it a second thought, but I've got ten places to put every dollar right now and a Hack has been so trouble-free for me that I'm so pleased with how easy it's been.

Experto Crede
Aug 19, 2008

Mod Secrets #281 - FrancisYorkPatty is the one who bought most of those frog avatars


Yeah, I don't think any of us would give up a real mac for a hackintosh. That said, there are advantages to hackintoshing. The main one being an expandable desktop mac which isn't based on an almost three year old processor set and ridiculously outdated GPUs.

Besides Martyoof, I consider the ing over updates and such as part of the fun.

Experto Crede fucked around with this message at Dec 6, 2012 around 12:33

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001


I'm parts picking for my next PC: how do you guys balance out performance hardware with OSX86 compatibility? I want something that can play Windows games well but also use OSX for daily browsing, chatting, video watching, etc tasks that I currently do in Ubuntu.

io_burn
Jul 9, 2001

Vrooooooooom!


Craptacular! posted:

I'm parts picking for my next PC: how do you guys balance out performance hardware with OSX86 compatibility? I want something that can play Windows games well but also use OSX for daily browsing, chatting, video watching, etc tasks that I currently do in Ubuntu.

This is exactly where I'm at too. Thinking of following the "mid" level guide from the LifeHacker link above and just getting a slightly better CPU and video card.

Martytoof
Feb 25, 2003



Awesome.

Awesome to
the MAX.



It depends on what you mean by "performance". There are a lot of motherboards that will support a high performance i5 or i7 CPU which are readily supported by OSX. Those are pretty standard. If you're looking at some sort of motherboard that is not quite as mainstream but is more overclock friendly then you might be in for a little harder time, but for the most part you won't have to look hard to find a well performing cpu/mobo combo.

As for video cards, that tends to be where things break down a little. Driver support on Windows is pretty much day one, whereas OSX support can be spotty until Apple itself supports the card, or at least the base chipset or variant. The answer is: a lot of research, by means of browsing forums and seeing what people's success rates are. This is how I ended up with my AMD 6870 card which was a pretty good performer at the time (though not top of the heap). It was a card that I knew would satisfy my Windows gaming needs at the time and also be supported by OSX out of the box.

io_burn
Jul 9, 2001

Vrooooooooom!


How does WiFi and Bluetooth typically work with Hackintosh builds? I see a lot of references to cards like this one: http://www.amazon.co working out of the box as an Airport in OSX, but why is it included in Mini-ITX builds? Am I just a total moron or do they lack the additional PCI-E slot for it?

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Experto Crede
Aug 19, 2008

Mod Secrets #281 - FrancisYorkPatty is the one who bought most of those frog avatars


io_burn posted:

How does WiFi and Bluetooth typically work with Hackintosh builds? I see a lot of references to cards like this one: http://www.amazon.co working out of the box as an Airport in OSX, but why is it included in Mini-ITX builds? Am I just a total moron or do they lack the additional PCI-E slot for it?

Basically you get an adaptor for letting you plug a mini pci-e int a 1x slot with antennas.

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