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readingatwork
Jan 8, 2009

Probably neither reading nor working.


taupoke posted:

Why is it that people who espouse the free market system always have no idea how a free market actually works?

Because conservatism and to a lesser extent libertarianism aren't political philosophies so much as they're doomsday cults dedicated to the worship of greed, selfishness, a few charismatic personalities, and a constant fear of the "other".

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Mr. Pumroy
May 20, 2001

how i wonder what you are


Yaos posted:

Bitcoin transactions can not be reverted, even if somebody steals your wallet and spends it all on Slim Jims you have no way to recover your BitCoins.

Don't forget about the physical effects of BitCoin.


Can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. No apologies for running with the big dogs. This is a man's currency you don't get to half rear end it. Go large or go home. End the Fed. A is A.










taupoke
Apr 26, 2008


HOLY SHIT I'M TRIPPING BALLS


How does this chucklefuck explain away the making of a limited amount of currency? If you have a finite source of currency won't that just gently caress you over when the economy grows and becomes worth more CosbyCoins? Or will each CosbyCoin become ridiculously overvalued until no one can afford them and you have a crash?

Toad on a Hat
May 27, 2004

He never raised his voice. That was the worst thing. The fury of the Time Lord.

And then we discovered why. Why this doctor, who had fought with gods and demons, why he'd run away from us and hidden.

He was being kind.



Hahahaha I never saw these. God drat!

Bioshuffle
Feb 10, 2011

DISREGARD THIS POST, I AM A STUPID ENTITLED TWAT, SCREW THE POOR


Mr. Pumroy posted:

Can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. No apologies for running with the big dogs. This is a man's currency you don't get to half rear end it. Go large or go home. End the Fed. A is A.



How much would all this gear make for whoever put it together? I'm a little confused by the mining bitcoins concept, but this is the first time I've seen these rigs.

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010


Bioshuffle posted:

How much would all this gear make for whoever put it together? I'm a little confused by the mining bitcoins concept, but this is the first time I've seen these rigs.

Essentially, the goal is to run up as large as possible an electricity charge as possible on your parents, landlord's or employer's bill. You're probably using $10 of electricity to make $5, but since you aren't the one who pays it, that's $5 of pure profit!

Don't even get started on the environmental impact of Bitcoin mining.

pathetic little tramp
Dec 12, 2005

HE IS GLISTEN


Bioshuffle posted:

How much would all this gear make for whoever put it together? I'm a little confused by the mining bitcoins concept, but this is the first time I've seen these rigs.

If I remember correctly, it takes something like 20,000 dollars worth of video cards to get your system up to the point that it can generate something like 5 bitcoins a day (remember the difficulty increases as more bitcoins get generated).

And I think someone did the math a while back that bitcoins have to be worth at least 20 dollars a piece to outweigh the electricity usage.

Also, cops will start investigating you for having a growhouse because your house is so loving hot.

Xarthor
Nov 11, 2003

Is Your Printer Out
of Ink or Toner?

Check out my
Thread in SA-Mart!


Does anyone know whatever happened to Atlas? drat I miss laughing at that kid.

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010


My fiat money would be on him having taken up an exciting and competitive career in the fast food industry in order to pay off outstanding power bills.

Adventure Pigeon
Nov 8, 2005

I am a master storyteller.

pathetic little tramp posted:

If I remember correctly, it takes something like 20,000 dollars worth of video cards to get your system up to the point that it can generate something like 5 bitcoins a day (remember the difficulty increases as more bitcoins get generated).

And I think someone did the math a while back that bitcoins have to be worth at least 20 dollars a piece to outweigh the electricity usage.

Also, cops will start investigating you for having a growhouse because your house is so loving hot.

The best part is after the cops finish, they won't arrest you, but they'll think less of you than if you actually had a growhouse.

CHRISTS FOR SALE
Jan 14, 2005

"fuck you and die"


tetsuo posted:

reminder that this happened and people who society trusts to drive, own land and use sharp objects still listen to this mans every word http://falkvinge.net/2011/05/29/why...s-into-bitcoin/


Oh yes please! If you're so idiotic as to put your money into a currency with absolutely no legal support in any way, get the gently caress out of the marketplace...you're just making it harder for us smarter investors to make money.

Shasta Orange Soda
Apr 24, 2007


Xarthor posted:

Does anyone know whatever happened to Atlas? drat I miss laughing at that kid.

While momentarily distracted pulling up a bootstrap, he was run over by a public bus full of welfare recipients.

Amarkov
Jun 21, 2010


taupoke posted:

How does this chucklefuck explain away the making of a limited amount of currency? If you have a finite source of currency won't that just gently caress you over when the economy grows and becomes worth more CosbyCoins? Or will each CosbyCoin become ridiculously overvalued until no one can afford them and you have a crash?

No, you see, that's a good thing. Unlike evil fiat inflationary currencies that steal your money, deflationary currencies let you invest in the future just by stashing money in your (virtual) mattress. The best part is that Bitcoin isn't even backed by anything, so your silly "overvaluing" is impossible.

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010

Down with the Illuminati Scum
www.thesecretworld.com


Xarthor posted:

Does anyone know whatever happened to Atlas? drat I miss laughing at that kid.

He probably followed trough with what he posted and killed himself.

e- Seriously it looks like he was expunged from the forums or at least got his name changed.

Cao Ni Ma fucked around with this message at May 26, 2012 around 18:03

OldMemes
Sep 5, 2011

I have to go now. My planet needs me.


So, let me get this straight, you run a program to make bitcoins? And people run multiple overclocked computers just to generate bitcoins, which no have gold backing or economic value, and expect a return?

Have any of Ayn Rand's ideas ever worked, or is she considered a hack by anyone who isn't a liberterian?

OldMemes fucked around with this message at May 26, 2012 around 18:05

Tars Tarkas
Apr 13, 2003

Rock the Mok


OldMemes posted:


Have any of Ayn Rand's ideas ever worked, or is she considered a hack by anyone who isn't a liberterian?

Her ideas worked so well she died poor on Social Security and Welfare

Kal
Jun 3, 2007



But the people running like 10 top end graphic cards 24/7 in their bed rooms to the point of getting heat strokes have to actually get something out of it, right? If not, why the hell would they do it?

aeternum
Sep 3, 2003



How do you know someone is an idiot? They think BitCoin is a great idea.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001


Kal posted:

But the people running like 10 top end graphic cards 24/7 in their bed rooms to the point of getting heat strokes have to actually get something out of it, right? If not, why the hell would they do it?

Presumably someone else is footing the electric bill.

mrwuss
Nov 24, 2006


Kal posted:

But the people running like 10 top end graphic cards 24/7 in their bed rooms to the point of getting heat strokes have to actually get something out of it, right? If not, why the hell would they do it?

They get to dream the dream, the power used is not even covered by the magic money produced at this point anymore.

CHRISTS FOR SALE
Jan 14, 2005

"fuck you and die"


Mr. Pumroy posted:

Can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. No apologies for running with the big dogs. This is a man's currency you don't get to half rear end it. Go large or go home. End the Fed. A is A.












See now that actually looks really awesome. Not in a "I wanna make a buttload of cash" way, just in a "how can we make this work" kinda way.

OldMemes posted:

So, let me get this straight, you run a program to make bitcoins? And people run multiple overclocked computers just to generate bitcoins, which no have gold backing or economic value, and expect a return? :pysduck:

Have any of Ayn Rand's ideas ever worked, or is she considered a hack by anyone who isn't a liberterian?

Well, there's that statue called "The Objectivist", which is a reference to Atlas Shrugged. It's a major landmark on Wall Street, and objectivism seems to be the driving force behind a lot of the decisions made in the financial markets.

Objectivism is really a philosophy for yourself, and she makes some interesting points about using reason as a basis for morality, rather than some sort of belief system. I think a lot of people misconstrue it as a reasoning for being absurdly selfish or self-serving, and general assholery. But I think almost any 20th-century philosophy could be considered in that manner. Would some find existentialism and nihilism to be grounds for doing anything, because nothing matters? I think a superficial understanding of these philosophies can certainly lead one to that sort of thought pattern.

ChubbyEmoBabe
Sep 6, 2003

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Harold Ramis Drugs
Dec 6, 2010

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Do any of you guys know the conversion rate between isk and bitcoins is? I've been considering moving to a safer, more stable currency

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

Mass extinction, darling, hypocrisy. These things are not good for me. Do you see what I see, dear?


OldMemes posted:

So, let me get this straight, you run a program to make bitcoins? And people run multiple overclocked computers just to generate bitcoins, which no have gold backing or economic value, and expect a return?

Have any of Ayn Rand's ideas ever worked, or is she considered a hack by anyone who isn't a liberterian?

I've read all of Ayn Rand's ramblings (compiled alongside the rantings of Alan Greenspan, her BFF) in a book called "Capitalism."

No. None of her ideas have ever--nor will ever--work. They are poisonous ideals that could not work.

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

Z is the new C

Xarthor posted:

Does anyone know whatever happened to Atlas? drat I miss laughing at that kid.

Forget Atlas. What happened to that pedo guy?

AuMaestro
May 27, 2007



I'm too cheap to buy a computer case, but I'll be damned if the fans and power supplies on my mining rig aren't full of LEDs.

Meho
Feb 1, 2006
Born to Lurk

No Bitcoin Rap? For shame.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBfeLdjNVKY

Anyone knowif Bruce ever went to jail?

Mr Luxury Yacht
Apr 16, 2012


Meho posted:

No Bitcoin Rap? For shame.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBfeLdjNVKY

Anyone knowif Bruce ever went to jail?

For the fraud or the pedophilia?

Ashenai
Oct 5, 2005

You taught me language;
and my profit on't
Is, I know how to curse.

taupoke posted:

How does this chucklefuck explain away the making of a limited amount of currency? If you have a finite source of currency won't that just gently caress you over when the economy grows and becomes worth more CosbyCoins? Or will each CosbyCoin become ridiculously overvalued until no one can afford them and you have a crash?

You can trade fractional bitcoins. Theoretically, if a bitcoin becomes worth a million dollars, you can just trade 0.000001 bitcoins for your slimjims.

Meho
Feb 1, 2006
Born to Lurk

Mr Luxury Yacht posted:

For the fraud or the pedophilia?

Either answer would be acceptable.

Looks like they haven't posted a new show on anything over there in months.

ymgve
Jan 2, 2004




Depending on your video card and how much you pay for electricity, mining is still profitable.

Of course, it's "profitable" in the sense that you might earn a dollar a day for each video card you've got, so you're better off looking through street gutters for quarters.

Good Citizen
Aug 12, 2008

Mew Mew Mew Mew
Mew Mew Mew


Zero One posted:

Forget Atlas. What happened to that pedo guy?

You're going to need to narrow that down, like, a lot.

Nobody will ever top logansryche as king of the bitcoin losers, though. There's really nobody else who could even compete.

Ashenai
Oct 5, 2005

You taught me language;
and my profit on't
Is, I know how to curse.

ymgve posted:

Depending on your video card and how much you pay for electricity, mining is still profitable.

Of course, it "profitable" in the sense tnat you might earn a dollar a day for each video card you've got, so you're better off looking through street gutters for quarters.

I don't think it is, if you consider amortization costs, and wear and tear on your hardware (bitcoin mining is extremely hardware intensive.)

Jigsaw
Aug 14, 2008


Does anyone have a link to the thread where Atlas registered and started debating everyone? It seems to have disappeared from my bookmarks.

ymgve
Jan 2, 2004




Ashenai posted:

I don't think it is, if you consider amortization costs, and wear and tear on your hardware (bitcoin mining is extremely hardware intensive.)

That's true too. If anyone wants to crunch the numbers themselves, here's a site that lets you put in numbers and predict the (lack of) profit: http://bitcoinx.com/profit/

If you really want to earn Bitcoins, it looks like the best way is to take up hacking.

edit: I forgot, you could also set up a pyramid or ponzi scheme. That works too.

Buff Skeleton
Oct 24, 2005



AuMaestro posted:

I'm too cheap to buy a computer case, but I'll be damned if the fans and power supplies on my mining rig aren't full of LEDs.

Believe it or not, most hardware (especially fans) these days is cheaper when it comes with tons of obnoxious LEDs plastered all over.


Also, those bitcoin-dehydrated strawberries are hilarious. They look diseased.

Mulatto Butts
Aug 9, 2006

BLACK ASS MOMMA
WHITE ASS DADDY


Good Citizen posted:

You're going to need to narrow that down, like, a lot.

Nobody will ever top logansryche as king of the bitcoin losers, though. There's really nobody else who could even compete.

Did he ever stop adding different types of soda to his fictional movie theatre that plays Tailspin reruns 24/7?

Space-Pope
Aug 13, 2003

Action Squirrel!

Mr. Pumroy posted:

Can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. No apologies for running with the big dogs. This is a man's currency you don't get to half rear end it. Go large or go home. End the Fed. A is A.
Well, as a backup plan, they could host a totally sweet LAN party.

Too bad they probably don't have friends.

Edit:

Mulatto Butts posted:

Did he ever stop adding different types of soda to his fictional movie theatre that plays Tailspin reruns 24/7?
You forgot. Tailspin reruns on a $300 Epson projector, from a Tailspin DVD.

Space-Pope fucked around with this message at May 26, 2012 around 18:43

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012


I think my favorite bitcoin thing is that dude who got brain damage beacuse he stayed in a super hot room.

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Loden Taylor
Aug 11, 2003

Let me guess. The surface of the Sun? Only dream I ever have. Every time I shut my eyes, it's always the same.


Does anyone have that video of the very first Bitcoin Show where they didn't really know what they were doing, so it was like 2 minutes of the intro animation looping while you heard them shouting at each other from across the room because they had left their mics on?

That pretty much summed up Bitcoins in one hilarious technical-difficulty filled clip.

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