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Lolie
Jun 4, 2010


Atlas' latest "I'm killing myself" thread. The Bitcoiners finally got pissed off enough with him pulling that poo poo to contact the police. When contacted by the police, he claimed his account had been hacked.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77826.0

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Peven Stan
Feb 1, 2006


Ironic that the most viable business plan for a ponzi scheme were explicit ponzi schemes

President Kucinich
Feb 21, 2003

Wealth is the product of man's capacity to think.


Powered Descent posted:

I use a tame black hole for a filing system. Behold Atlas's brainchild:



Some choice parts of this plan (outside of multiple syntax errors):

The name "Woolong" is also the name of the computer currency of Cowboy Beebop.

Atlas expected the company to build the "woolong device" for him.

His super secret big time investor for the device was his broke rear end child cousin.

His previous plan of selling hats for TF2 was a better idea.

Oxford Comma
Jun 26, 2011



What's the connection between BitCoins and cult leader Ron Paul?

Less Fat Luke
May 23, 2003

Just the tip!


Oxford Comma posted:

What's the connection between BitCoins and cult leader Ron Paul?
Mental retardation.

Pocket Billiards
Aug 29, 2007
.

http://www.meetmystery.com/dvdcdoffer.html

You can use Bitcoins to pay for your how to pick up women instructional dvd sets.

Tube
Jun 1, 2000

I'm going off the rails on a CRAZY TRAIN!



Pocket Billiards posted:

http://www.meetmystery.com/dvdcdoffer.html

You can use Bitcoins to pay for your how to pick up women instructional dvd sets.

This is a landmark day in Bitcoin history. Finally, there is a product that is as valuable as the Bitcoins it's purchased with.

LethalGeek
Nov 4, 2009

Angry Duck is watching you...


Funny I was just thinking about this terrible poo poo the other day and peaked at Magic The Gathering Exchange to see the price was still floating at $5. Getting reminded of all the highlights from the giant thread here has brought me so much joy, it's like remembering that Christmas as a kid when I get the SNES (). I shouldn't be this entertained by horrible people ripping each other off.

I'm still sad we mined out all the humor last year with our Illuminati super computers and caused Bitcoins to crash since it interfered with our master plans for the world

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010

Niles Hokkanen's Pocket Guide to Mandolin Chords is hands-down the best mandolin chordbook you can buy, and a damn steal at less than the cost of a decent pint. It doesn't just show you the chords, it actually explains the concepts behind them.

I wanted to point out that while it may not be illegal to take somebody's integers (I really have no idea on that point), it's typically illegal to gain unauthorized access to a computer system. For example, see http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/d...&file=484-502.9 section 502. So presumably the FBI or some form of law enforcement should be involved when a buttcoin exchange is hacked.

Razorwired
Dec 7, 2008

It's about to start!

So we've covered that cops go to mining houses to check if there's a grow op. Have Buttcoin enthusiasts ever get dinged for their massive fire hazards?

IronClaymore
Jun 30, 2010



Oxford Comma posted:

What's the connection between BitCoins and cult leader Ron Paul?

BitCoins assume that a currency can exist without a sovereign state and an actual government of an actual nation of actual people. Ron Paul...similar but actually not. History: when money ceased to be precious metals and barter and become a metaphorical concept with no physical reality, it was ultimately governments that ensured the fact that it represented something real. Ultimately, money is a flimsy concept that relies on everyone believing it has value, but at least its base is...semi solid. BitCoins work by people believing it has value, without any actual basis at all.

Were you to purchase goods or services from me in real currency, whether my native Australian dollar or US$ or euros or British pounds sterling, I could accept it, exchange it to my native currency, and use it to pay my taxes. You pay me in BitCoins...yeah like the ATO (our equivalent of IRS) is going to accept that. Hell, you could pay me in some hyper-inflationary currency from a tiny nation on the brink of total collapse, and I'd still have a chance of using it.

IIRC, Ron Paul re-floated the idea of moving back to the gold standard, where the US$ represents an actual physical piece of real Au-197 out in Fort Knox. This removes the need for a government to guarantee the worth of your piece of paper money (done by its ability to interact with other governments, pay for public services, borrow from/lend to banks, employ people, etc). Even with this, BitCoins are still worthless data. At least gold is shiny, and you can turn it into a colluloid and treat cancer. So, any connection to Ron Paul would be due to idiots somehow moving in the opposite direction to what he advocates in the practical sense, while trying to emulate the spirit of what he believes, and failing miserably.

Edit: now that I think about it, if I worked in the US as an employee of the energy industry, BitCoins would have value to me. As the power plant at my back pumps coal smoke into the atmosphere to kill polar bears and wipe out Polynesia, I'd laugh evilly while lying naked on my bed of hard currency banknotes, knowing that at least some of it all came from BitCoin production.

IronClaymore fucked around with this message at May 27, 2012 around 10:34

Fire_Monkey
Sep 11, 2001


Was it also Logansryche's giftcard store that could not do simple maths? I forget the actual figures, but 10% of any price is $5.

ymgve
Jan 2, 2004




Someone made a list of the largest Bitcoin hacks/scams/losses:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83794.0

kissekatt
Apr 20, 2005

I have tasted the fruit.

Powered Descent posted:

Oh, and for reference, Logansryche isn't a kid, he's a grown-rear end man.
He's a grown-rear end man who went through Walmart's managerial training program twice before being fired making him eminently qualified to own and manage a movie theatre.

President Kucinich posted:

Making just stupid bets and then welshing on them openly before disappearing, and then reappearing with dead giveaway Ayn Rand related names.
What, you didn't find Atlas' impersonation of a retired horse trader* convincing?

*Yes, seriously.


Oxford Comma posted:

What's the connection between BitCoins and cult leader Ron Paul?
Internet libertarians.

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007



The Bitcoin Show will forever be the greatest television show to ever be produced. I'm still pissed about our motherfucking quadrocopter, though. Bruce hyped it up for weeks as something the chat could control, when it ended up being we could tell the dude driving it what buttons to push on his iphone.

Fire_Monkey
Sep 11, 2001


homeless snail posted:

The Bitcoin Show will forever be the greatest television show to ever be produced. I'm still pissed about our motherfucking quadrocopter, though. Bruce hyped it up for weeks as something the chat could control, when it ended up being we could tell the dude driving it what buttons to push on his iphone.

The quadrocopter was fantastic. They had already spent a small fortune on the show, and then Bruce drops a few hundred bucks simply because chat said it was a good idea. It was like he was trying so hard to be our friend. Of course, like Bitcoin itself it was all hype before a brief flight and finally crashing, never to go up again.

H1KE
May 7, 2007

Somehow, I don't think they'd approve the franchise...


Holy poo poo they have Bitcoin Magazine! It's quite possible we may see the lofty heights of comedy come to fruition once again people. I sort of want to buy one, then scan every page and distribute it. Of course, they'll sic the Bitcoin Police on me, but I'll just claim that it's the free market at work.

E: "If you email them I'm sure they'll sell you the May issue, or you can wait until it goes for sale in Barnes & Nobles."

H1KE fucked around with this message at May 27, 2012 around 12:42

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003



kissekatt posted:

What, you didn't find Atlas' impersonation of a retired horse trader* convincing?
Oh god, that was one of the more inspired moments of in that thread. I really wish I could see the line by line thought process Atlas went through to think that pretending to be, of all things, a 70 year old retired man who traded horses for a living was the best and and most believable alternate persona to take.

Decrepus
May 21, 2008

All that you have found is your inevitable punishment.

What is this deal about Bruce being a pedo? I knew he was incompetent but I must have stopped following Bitcoin before this happened.

ymgve
Jan 2, 2004




Someone found him on another forum where he talked about traveling to Thailand and paying "boys" for sex.

NerdPolice
Jun 18, 2005


What if bitcoin mining didn't mine bitcoins at all, but it was mining comedy. We haven't witnessed awesomeness equal to the old thread because the difficulty grew exponentially harder, producing less comedy.

Photex
Apr 6, 2009

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ymgve posted:

Someone found him on another forum where he talked about traveling to Thailand and paying "boys" for sex.

I wish it was as simple as this, Bruce wanted the next large Bitcoin Conference to happen in Pattaya, Thailand which is pretty much the sex capital of the world. Every single one of his real followers blasted him for this choice saying okay Thailand is okay but the biggest buttbanging, boylovin', sleazetown city in all the world? Goons then dug up some really disgusting posts on Boy Love sites with one of Bruce's old handles where he was explaining how to pick up and make love to "Boys" in the city.

Taeke
Feb 2, 2010


Yesterday, I had my first encounter with bitcoins in the real world. A friend of mine uses it to buy drugs online.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009


Taeke posted:

Yesterday, I had my first encounter with bitcoins in the real world. A friend of mine uses it to buy drugs online.
Pretty sure this is the intended purpose all along. They're like the 'tobacco water pipes' of the currency world. Inefficient for what they claim to be, but you couldn't just call them Bongcoins.

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007



Yeah you can.

I Greyhound
Apr 22, 2008

*For the CRASH! that BLAM!s


The other main draw for Bitcoiners is intense distrust of central banking currency control. They have the firm belief that the Federal Reserve just creates money for the sole purpose of sapping the citizens' cash via inflation to make the fat cats rich riCH RICH. Most of the bitcoin forum members want a currency with a maximum of 0% inflation, and would prefer deflation, and have no understanding of what problems occur in a deflationary currency situation.

Coupled with stories like the trade site manager who didn't pay for persistent storage on the virtual machine hosting the site and then rebooted it, wiping several thousand Bitcoins from existence, and you've got.

Oxford Comma
Jun 26, 2011



I always assumed Internet Libertarians liked BitCoins because it was their way of striking back at the Zionist Jew Bankers they believe run the world. At least, that's the impression I get whenever I hear Ron Paul discussing the evils of the Fed - he seems to be implying a Jewish conspiracy without openly saying so.

Shasta Orange Soda
Apr 24, 2007


kissekatt posted:

What, you didn't find Atlas' impersonation of a retired horse trader* convincing?

*Yes, seriously.

quote:

A couple years back I began to get severe arithritis in my hip and it limited what I usually did. My grandson let me sit in on his gaming and I gradually began to play myself; eventually I got myself setup with a PC. I used to be a horse trader back in the day and I like how in Team Fortress 2 you can trade the items and commodities you earn.

I am about to add some technologies I've been experimenting with to the TF2 trading system and make things a little easier for people who make money with this gig, through Bitcoins.

In the end, I'm glad I'm seeing the world change from the inside-out and that I'm now able to do my part.

spidoman
Feb 18, 2007


But did Manny and Marlene ever get together after El Show de Bitcoin?!

Fire_Monkey
Sep 11, 2001


Also, what happened to that guy who opened a scam school in Korea (I think) and combined the arrogance of Atlas with the scuminess of Bruce? I can't recall his name at the moment though.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006



Oxford Comma posted:

What's the connection between BitCoins and cult leader Ron Paul?

It's the libertarian equivalent of a currency system.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009


They just dressed up the hexadecimal system, which should be well known to these supposed computer experts, as an esoteric and therefore superior number system, and then throw in a mention that "hey, you don't have to use the numbers that nobody recognizes, you can just use plain hex" at the bottom.

I'd love to see what time/date/weight/measure systems they'd use in their floating seastead bongcoin fortress.

shuriken
Dec 2, 2002


Guavanaut posted:

They just dressed up the hexadecimal system, which should be well known to these supposed computer experts, as an esoteric and therefore superior number system, and then throw in a mention that "hey, you don't have to use the numbers that nobody recognizes, you can just use plain hex" at the bottom.

The idea that changing the base of your numeral system will somehow allow you to better represent whole numbers is so absurdly wrong it's mind boggling. How could you even get that far without understanding why it's retarded?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009


It has numbers that are so special that you have to install an obscure font to even see them, so it must be better.

shuriken
Dec 2, 2002


That makes sense. Can I buy extra copies of the font, in case it gets banned by the government?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009


Yes, but you have to pay using Fontcoins, a bitcoin fork that only one place on the internet accepts.

DeathSandwich
Apr 24, 2008

I fucking hate puzzles.


It seems as though I missed the last thread for this and never really understood the concept from a logical perspective. The only thing I really understand is that it's some sort of libertarian bullshit wet dream. Can someone explain to me why this exists? A theoretical moon currency with no backing, no government support, and apparently you can mine for it? Does anyone besides crazy libertarians buy into this poo poo aside from the previously mentioned drug dealers/money launderers?

gnarlyhotep
Sep 30, 2008

I'd like to reserve the volleyball court


DeathSandwich posted:

It seems as though I missed the last thread for this and never really understood the concept from a logical perspective. The only thing I really understand is that it's some sort of libertarian bullshit wet dream. Can someone explain to me why this exists? A theoretical moon currency with no backing, no government support, and apparently you can mine for it? Does anyone besides crazy libertarians buy into this poo poo aside from the previously mentioned drug dealers/money launderers?

http://buttcoin.org/what-are-buttcoins

This is your best source for a summary of all things butt and coin related.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

FEED ME YOUR
FOXCONN BABIES!


Fire_Monkey posted:

Also, what happened to that guy who opened a scam school in Korea (I think) and combined the arrogance of Atlas with the scuminess of Bruce? I can't recall his name at the moment though.

That's the great Matthew N. Wright, who has taken the place of Atlas as most hated on the Bitcointalk forums (they had a poll!). He's the creator of Bittalk.tv (who took my buttcoin images without attribution and I filed a DMCA against him) and of the delayed-but-shipped Bitcoin Magazine. He's also left about 20 other failed projects in his wake.

MNW has a history as long at Atlas but had mostly flown under the radar. He even came here and shitposted for a while before being banned.

Here's a big post I made a month ago in the YOSPOS thread

quote:

I was looking over my twitter when I saw some weird stuff about some guys in bitcoin again, convincing an underage azn teen to be a bitcoin spokesperson ... by taking school girl photos in a playground?

Some of you might know Matthew N. Wright. He's taken over the unofficial role of bitcoin spokeman since Bruce Wagner was chased off by the heat over his con artist past. When SA was in the thick of it, gibbis found out he ran a fake school in Korea and MNW even came here and paid the to spout off in the GBS bitcoin thread. He's also the proprietor behind BitTalk.tv (which stole my images from the cosbycoin hack from buttcoin to use in his lovely web tv show), The BitCoin Better Business Bureau, started the Bitcoin magazine which went nowhere and is generally the most hated person on the Bitcointalk forums.



Somehow he got hooked up with this girl and convinced her to promote bitcoins. In exchange he would take photos of her that many people find uncomfortable and record a video on facebook of her in her underwear for some reason and she got exposure? Bitcoins? I have no idea what the trade off is here. Matthew describes his reasoning below:

quote:

Since I came to Korea 7 years ago, I have been trying to teach Koreans how to be more entrepreneurial. While it is true that overall Koreans are highly resourceful, the problem is that they tend to rely on family and friends more than complete strangers, and thus are not so often promoted to build new businesses with a competitive edge and basically copy the same cookie-cutter approach to everything (barely anything but franchises exist here).

I did however run an international college prep school for some three years, and during that time I taught many of my students to harness their talents to make money aside from their family's income. I taught an aspiring artist how to price and get paid for his work, I helped a girl with no idea what she wanted to do but loved dance to eventually fall in love with acting, I've helped a fluent English and Korean speaking student to get work as a translator, and I've gotten a few people into programming and music (my favorites!).

For a long time my passion was helping to change the lives of my students and help show them what I thought was a better life outside the rigid and gloomy Korean machine. More or less though all students are at the whim of their parents and cannot do anything they want due to outrageous study schedules and ridiculous restrictions on their activities (these kids can't get a job until they are 18 in most cases, whether by family's wishes or by work restrictions, and even when they do it's barely $3.50 an hour).

Well, almost all students that is. Sometimes you meet the true born entrepreneurial types that will never take no for an answer and are always looking for a new challenge, to take risks and learn fast. Even though I no longer run that college prep school, I still meet many students in my daily life filming ridiculous stunts in public, at skateparks, concerts, etc. A while back I met a young girl who has shared her interest in modeling and she shared with me her dream of breaking out of the redundant system that is Korea and doing something important in her life. After she learned about Bitcoin, she decided she would continue to pursue being a model, but to make Bitcoin a part of it somehow.

In recent days I have seen (and proofread) articles about this "Girls Gone Bitcoin" stuff. Personally, I don't think taking your clothes off on camera empowers you, I think it degrades you. That could just be my upbringing shining through though. Nonetheless, the idea of empowering young women to be able to earn money, like the young artist in Thailand who wants to sell her designs but has no way to receive money, or the aspiring producer who comes to Korea just to film a documentary on other high schoolers and their obsession with makeup and surgeries, all of these young women can benefit from Bitcoin in a non-degrading way.

I often take the trolling stance on things and bash them down for being poorly executed, and this usually leads to me decided to take matters into my own hands. Well, this time won't be any different.

Introducing the first model in South Korea to promote Bitcoin-- the beautiful Yoon Yeonghwa.

She is only interested in using Bitcoin, not fiat, and she's disgusted with the way that the world has with putting someone down just because you don't follow their rules. If there is ever a legitimate and classy organization designed to help the women of the world earn Bitcoin without requiring them to be cheap strippers, she will be the poster child.

Show her some love everybody. http://www.facebook.com/yeonghwayoon .

I'll continue to work with her in photography and film but I welcome suggestions for money making ideas for her that aren't tasteless.

Peace.


This lady is apparently 17 years old, dressed up in school girl uniforms and posing on a playground, evoking feelings of someone much, much younger.

Apparently he's a pretty creepy pedo, living in korea, lusting after underage girls and hoping they will get naked for virtual coins. He doesn't say this obvisouly, but he definitely doesn't hide the fact that he thinks pedophilia is a-ok.








After that he locked the thread.

There's been three threads on this so far, and each time they get derail about how creepy this is he argues semantics on the meaning of pedophilia and seems it's prefectly normal and a healthy way to promote bitcoins. I won't post all the posts but it's creepy as gently caress

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75218.20
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75493.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76044.0

http://www.facebook.com/yeonghwayoon (probably NSFW in the US (UNLESS YOU'RE KOREAN, RIGHT???))
http://www.facebook.com/matthew.n.wright (creepy gently caress)


His latest adventure was collecting donations for some sort of task force to "De-troll Bitcoins"

quote:


De-troll Bitcoin
May 16, 2012, 07:59:26 AM
#1
Why should internet trolls be allowed to gang up on people who have a point and spread FUD and misdirection? Why can't we equally use our numbers against them too so that they lose their misdirecting powers? 1 for 1!

Trolls (name your site, reddit, SA, anywhere) get their power from their anonymity and numbers. They succeed in doing what they do because their targets are spread thinly, they remain anonymous, and because they are anonymous they don't need to back up anything they say.

Since we are the ones trying to change the world for the better and they seem to be the uptight assholes with an agenda against innovation, we have to stick together for our causes. Every initiative uses fuel though, and I think money might be a good kind.

This particular campaign is related to an internet community that Bitcoin could be used quite well in given the right understanding of it. Unfortunately, like many places, WIRED magazine's article about how "bitcoin has already failed" and inbred hatred of anything free and open has caused a bias. This means that if anyone mentions "bitcoin", 10 anonymous accounts pop-up calling it a scam and saying that person talking about it is probably trying to sell something etc.

You cannot win an argument if your voice is not as loud as the opponents unfortunately, and as is with society, louder voices win even if they're flat out lying. We need to at least match the voice of detraction. For every 10 fake accounts that cannot defend a point, we need 10 real people willing to argue it. Think of it like a chess game that I want to pay to be played.

There is no "winning" this game, but losing the game because something nocked the pieces off the board or told you to look in another direction while they placed their queen next to your king is cheating. Trolls cheat. They cannot win a real argument, and it takes power-in-numbers to make a troll infested place into a platform where a real debate can take place.

I will update the spots below regarding vacancies in the campaigns. The payment will be decided based off of donations and private investments.

PM me for more information. (Skype users will be given higher priority)

Spots available:

185/200

Current donations/investments to this campaign:

20 BTC - Private investment

Donations to this campaign can be made at 1MCYmbrnVYVuBgduTNswoD9YCkXLJj9S73


Also, he still reads these forums looking for namedrops.



Bonus unrelated awesome pic

FCKGW fucked around with this message at May 27, 2012 around 16:10

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Apr 17, 2003



Pham Nuwen posted:

I wanted to point out that while it may not be illegal to take somebody's integers (I really have no idea on that point), it's typically illegal to gain unauthorized access to a computer system. For example, see http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/d...&file=484-502.9 section 502. So presumably the FBI or some form of law enforcement should be involved when a buttcoin exchange is hacked.

Most of the exchanges are borderline legal anyways (something about banking regulations) so calling local law enforcement runs the risk of shutting down the whole operation. When your customers are happy that you managed return 50% (or whatever it was) of the "losses", there's no point in alerting the authorities.

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