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Dex
May 26, 2006

Quintuple x!!!

Would not escrow again.

VERY MISLEADING!


Sammus posted:

Jesus. I've never burned up a graphics card, and I know I pushed the lovely one in my old laptop well beyond its limits with just games. How can it possibly be more profitable to replace cards than to simply.. I don't know, cap their performance just a little bit below the burning up point?

It's not a matter of overclocking them until they burst into flames - all hardware has an expected lifespan. If you were playing games that stressed your system 24/7 somehow, you'd see them failing frequently too.

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Tarranon
Oct 10, 2007

no more howling at the weather


Decrepus posted:

Does anyone have that picture of all the graphics cards boxes piled up? They are stacked really neatly in a crisscross pattern. I am trying to show my friend how stupid people are but I can't find the pic with gis.




They're not exactly kris krossed.

But I am jelly.

frodnonnag
Aug 13, 2007

If I'm not asking to be unbanned from SS13, someone else is probably using my account!

Tarranon posted:



They're not exactly kris krossed.

But I am jelly.

I like the cheeseburger in that picture.

JazzFlight
Apr 29, 2006

Oooooooooooh!



I like how the guy thinks you should be jealous of all those graphics cards. That's like not only having a really top-end sports car, but 40 of them and all in the same color. I mean, sure, I'd like one of those, but unless I'm selling the rest, it's a bit excessive.

Of course, these are Bitcoin miners we're talking about here...

bucketmouse
Aug 16, 2004

enhance enhance enhance


What are the boxes in that picture that aren't radeons? Did the guy actually buy out the stock of some superior (in a Mhash/sec sense) videocard and then just buy a bunch of radeons on top of that?

Greyhawk
May 30, 2001
I CHOO-CHOO-CHOOSE YOU

Those are HIS (as in the company HIS) Radeons. They're designed to run especially cool in multi-card setups (for what counts as "cool" in the gfx card business).

Teabiscuit
Jul 21, 2005


It's fine guys my mom pays the electricity bills and I have plenty of extra space in my basement room. It's free money!

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time. I know who you are.

You are destiny.


spoon0042 posted:

The hashing algorithm central to bitcoin is (in computer sciencey terms) a simple integer operation. Your typical desktop CPU can perform one (or possibly two, I forget) of these at a time per core. So you get something like 4 or 8 (times 3-4 GHz divided by however many operations the whole algorithm actually takes) for a high end processor. Graphics cards on the other hand run somewhat slower but are designed with thousands of processing units capable of all doing the hashing operation simultaneously.

They (bitcoiners) measure this stuff in I think "megahashes per second" and I think I remember even lower end graphics cards getting 200-400 MHash. Higher end cards will of course typically get more, while even the highest end consumer CPUs get only like single digits MHashes. Then of course you can cram four of the things onto specially designed motherboards (I almost said "in a box", but the crazier ones don't bother).

Christ. No matter how dumb bitcoiners are, the technical aspect of it all is fascinating as hell.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006



Smart Car posted:

If BitCoin miners were sensible about making money, they wouldn't be mining BitCoins in the first place.

And the mining analogy makes sense seeing how it's led to people getting injured.

And both real world mining and Bitcoin mining take place underground.

etalian fucked around with this message at Aug 12, 2012 around 21:59

Smart Car
Mar 31, 2011



etalian posted:

And the mining analogy makes sense seeing how it's led to people getting injuring.

And both real world mining and Bitcoin mining take place underground.
There's a remarkable amount of similarities between BitCoins and a gold rush too. There's too high expectations of results from most of the miners and most of the real profit coming from providing (loans for) the equipment are the two biggest parallels. Of course an actual gold rush at least provides something of value, beyond the entertainment values that is.

Endymion FRS MK1
Oct 28, 2011


Why do I always see HD5000 series Radeons? Aren't they getting a bit long in the tooth and outclassed GPGPU-wise by the newer 6- and 7000s?

SG-83
Sep 6, 2004

I guess it's not just a dog thing!

frodnonnag posted:

I like the cheeseburger in that picture.
Probably cooked right beside the strawberries.

Too Poetic
Nov 28, 2008
BATH SALTS BATH SALTS BATH SALTS ***SNNNNRT*** I FUCKEN LOVE BATH SALTS GIMME MORE FUKKIN BATH SALTS I CAN'T GOD DAMN SHUT UP ABOUT THE BATH SALTS

Endymion FRS MK1 posted:

Why do I always see HD5000 series Radeons? Aren't they getting a bit long in the tooth and outclassed GPGPU-wise by the newer 6- and 7000s?
Probably looking at old pictures. Everyone is using newer cards now.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003

He's AWESOME!


Endymion FRS MK1 posted:

Why do I always see HD5000 series Radeons? Aren't they getting a bit long in the tooth and outclassed GPGPU-wise by the newer 6- and 7000s?

This is conjecture, but I'd bet their price for performance in this specific area is slightly better still.

Lolie
Jun 4, 2010


Smart Car posted:

There's a remarkable amount of similarities between BitCoins and a gold rush too. There's too high expectations of results from most of the miners and most of the real profit coming from providing (loans for) the equipment are the two biggest parallels. Of course an actual gold rush at least provides something of value, beyond the entertainment values that is.

It goes even further. If you leave the fruits of your labour with the depository (exchange), the depository might get robbed or simply disappear with your deposits. You also never know whether holding or selling what you've mined is going to be a better option because the price is subject to wild fluctuations.

Zerilan
Jan 11, 2008

You can't always run from what scares ya.


So when these miners consider their profits, are they also including the medical bills from treating heat stroke?

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009
I love cruise ships and they have never ever done anything wrong ever and are 100% correct always because I worked on one once.

Endymion FRS MK1 posted:

Why do I always see HD5000 series Radeons? Aren't they getting a bit long in the tooth and outclassed GPGPU-wise by the newer 6- and 7000s?

There was a thing where this one model of card was apparently the best for Bitcoin, even though it was a bit older. I don't know if there was any truth to it, but who needs truth when you've got Bitcoin?

Monocle Smile
Aug 19, 2003

Sounds great...

Since Goons have known about bitcoin almost as long as it has existed, I'm curious what the exchange rate was on the first day of the first SA bitcoin thread. Anyone happen to know that offhand?

Dex
May 26, 2006

Quintuple x!!!

Would not escrow again.

VERY MISLEADING!


The BFC thread started before they were $1 if memory serves, the GBS thread was started by somebody who thought they were a good idea(yep) so I'm assuming it was around the time they were trading for a couple of dollars at least.

mr. stefan
Apr 26, 2012

Your posts smell very much like each other! Are you husband and wife?


Zerilan posted:

So when these miners consider their profits, are they also including the medical bills from treating heat stroke?

I think its been well established at this point that bitcoin miners do not know the difference between profit and revenue.

Angela Christine
Oct 4, 2008

LIL CUTIES


frodnonnag posted:

I like the cheeseburger in that picture.

That is to show that the finished rigs run hot enough that he can grill meat in his mining room.

Dr. VooDoo
May 4, 2006

O, for a muse of fire

SG-83 posted:

Probably cooked right beside the strawberries.

Oh man someone post that picture again every time I see those dusty, moldy strawberries it perfectly encompasses just what BitCoin is

Install Gentoo
Aug 4, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 12 hours!


Monocle Smile posted:

Since Goons have known about bitcoin almost as long as it has existed, I'm curious what the exchange rate was on the first day of the first SA bitcoin thread. Anyone happen to know that offhand?

I don't know when the first SA bitcoin thread was, but the first time I heard of bitcoins being exchanged for an actual item was when, on May 22, 2010, this dude traded 10,000 bitcoins for $25 of pizza: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?t...msg1195#msg1195

That would be 1 bitcoin = $0.0025

When Mt Gox first opened their site for bitcoin trading, the going rate was $0.05 per bitcoin; they opened that on July 17, 2010.

Here's bitcoin price history from opening of the site to the end of 2010:


The scale on the left side is for the volume bars, it's the amount of US dollars being traded on the exchange for each day. The scale on the right side is the price of bitcoins in dollars, and the rectangle for each day is of course a standard financial "candlestick" display.

Install Gentoo fucked around with this message at Aug 13, 2012 around 03:14

SG-83
Sep 6, 2004

I guess it's not just a dog thing!

Dr. VooDoo posted:

Oh man someone post that picture again every time I see those dusty, moldy strawberries it perfectly encompasses just what BitCoin is

Here you go, some nice dehyrdrated berries.



slogsdon
Jun 26, 2012

Tesla Explosion Fight Force

SG-83 posted:

Here you go, some nice dehyrdrated berries.





There's no way that would pass any sort of inspection.

Shasta Orange Soda
Apr 24, 2007


slogsdon posted:

There's no way that would pass any sort of inspection.

And now you know why libertarians hate regulation.

The Bible
May 8, 2010



slogsdon posted:

There's no way that would pass any sort of inspection.

Well then I have some good news about a libertarian country for you...

Bieeardo
Aug 21, 2000

Someone bold, someone blue, someone borrowed, someone new...


Oh god, I never noticed the blueberries before.

MisterOblivious
Mar 17, 2010


Bieeardo posted:

Oh god, I never noticed the blueberries before.

Tonight is also the first time I've noticed the blueberries. Still less moldy than the raspberries I bought at the farmer's market last week :/

Alan Smithee
Jan 3, 2005

From the greatest bedroom filmmaker of our times, director of "Wigga Please", "Feminazis II: Space Master Race", comes "Video Game: The Movie: The Game: The Movie". Directed by Alan Smithee. Written by Alan Smithee. Starring Alan Smithee. Produced by Skoolmunkee

sealed in this package is a bag of my neckbeard leftovers

ellspurs
Sep 12, 2007
Kappa :o

Going back a few pages, the news that Bitcoinica is being sued has reached the BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19244210

Lolie
Jun 4, 2010


ellspurs posted:

Going back a few pages, the news that Bitcoinica is being sued has reached the BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19244210

Unfortunately, they've pretty much just regurgitated the ArsTechnica article which was a reprint of the Verge article. The original Verge article got significant facts wrong and made things sound less hosed up than they really are. None of these articles have highlighted the MtGox hack in July, let alone the connection of Zhou to that hack or Zhou's claims that some Chinese guy was responsible for the MtGox heist.

Angela Christine
Oct 4, 2008

LIL CUTIES


SG-83 posted:

Here you go, some nice dehyrdrated berries.





"These berries were dehydrated using filtered, recycled heat" in what way is that heat filtered? Is he calling the screens the berries sit on filters?

Therion
Jun 26, 2010



Through fans, obviously

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001


Through the patina of neckbeard hairs, cat fur, and cheetoh dust built up on the vents of the computer cases.

SixtySix
Jun 4, 2005



what does "filtering heat" even mean?

Miskatonic U.
Aug 13, 2008

Do you read Sutter Cane?


SixtySix posted:

what does "filtering heat" even mean?

It's between "blistering heat" and "scorching heat"

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001


SixtySix posted:

what does "filtering heat" even mean?

The energy used to generate the heat was filtered through power lines and retarded use of GPUs?

SixtySix
Jun 4, 2005



are those food-grade unpainted window screens at least?

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The Bible
May 8, 2010



SixtySix posted:

are those food-grade unpainted window screens at least?

If they aren't and you or your family dies, you'll know never to buy from that guy again.

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