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So who is Asher
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| # ? Aug 6, 2012 08:24 |
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| # ? May 23, 2013 23:51 |
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I was expecting her to decide to use the time machine to go back a few hours to stop the bomb, and getting crazy guy to make the call or something. I guess not.
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| # ? Aug 6, 2012 10:10 |
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Aphrodite posted:I was expecting her to decide to use the time machine to go back a few hours to stop the bomb, and getting crazy guy to make the call or something. I guess not. I think what they were trying to say without saying it is the time machine doesn't work, and the dude is genuinely crazy in addition to being from the future. But it's not 100% clear and it would be badass if every so often in season two she goes to that weird basement place and has to deal with that guy in order to travel time.
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| # ? Aug 6, 2012 10:51 |
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Seemed pretty clear. The "time machine" was a wigwam of bicycle wheels with a tuba in the middle. Didn't look too functional. So is the black guy scientist working for the gov. in the future the same as the computer dude on the libr8 crew? Whats up with that?
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| # ? Aug 6, 2012 11:54 |
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I really liked this outcome. All in all this show doesn't seem so bad. If they do a second season, I will probably watch it. Why did Sonya need to shoot Travis? Was Kagame so afraid that he would reach for power again?
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| # ? Aug 6, 2012 12:34 |
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I enjoyed the first season. I just hope it doesn't get cancelled after ending on a cliffhanger like Endgame did. 
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| # ? Aug 6, 2012 15:07 |
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Air is lava! posted:I really liked this outcome. All in all this show doesn't seem so bad. If they do a second season, I will probably watch it. He seemed unstable enough to me that I wouldn't trust him to not gently caress up over the next 60 years
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| # ? Aug 6, 2012 18:53 |
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Oh hey cool, at least I was right in speculating about the suit projecting a protective field. So what are the theories as to why Alec sent Kiera back? Whose mother is she supposed to be? And she didn't seem too bothered about blowing her cover in front of that agent, and then, confusingly, said to Kellog afterwards "I almost blew my cover" - No, you DID blow it and you know it! I saw you looking at that guy as he watched you disappear! It was a bit of a mess, plot-wise. I could never tell if I wasn't quite following what was going on at times because I was being dense, the writing was not being clear enough, or they were keeping things intentionally ambiguous and hidden, or a combination of all the above. I'm also a bit confused about which variant of time travel they're going with. I can't tell which side of the whole being able to change the past/future vs fate finding a way to make what is "supposed" to happen happen vs creating separate timelines to avoid paradoxes - aaactually I don't really want to think about it much more than that. What I enjoyed about the show was the fish-out-of-water aspect, and Keira's cool gadgets, and her struggling to use them while hiding the fact she's using them, nearly getting caught out etc. When the time travel aspect stops being the background device that enables the scenario, and becomes more and more of a central plotline in itself, is where all the logic breaks down and you're in a "time travel show  ", which is where this looks like it's going.Overall, I enjoyed Continuum and would place it in my own personal order of preference alongside other sci-fi series discussed here as follows: V < Falling Skies < Continuum < Alphas < Fringe < DS9 < Farscape < BSG I might swap Fringe and DS9 around, I don't know, haven't seen after S3 of Fringe yet. The other star trek series' contain episodes ranging all over that scale for me, from the top to the VERY bottom - I only included DS9 as a whole entity because it's my favourite, and is the more serialised of the bunch and as such the only star trek series I watched as a whole continuous story from start to finish. I will eagerly await being told just how wrong I am  EDIT: and I forgot about Stargate. And probably a bunch of others. Gah. Cactus fucked around with this message at Aug 6, 2012 around 19:39 |
| # ? Aug 6, 2012 19:35 |
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Air is lava! posted:I really liked this outcome. All in all this show doesn't seem so bad. If they do a second season, I will probably watch it. To me it seemed like Kagame told her no such thing and SHE was afraid that he would reach for power again?
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| # ? Aug 7, 2012 02:42 |
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Cactus posted:I'm also a bit confused about which variant of time travel they're going with. I can't tell which side of the whole being able to change the past/future vs fate finding a way to make what is "supposed" to happen happen vs creating separate timelines to avoid paradoxes - aaactually I don't really want to think about it much more than that. They seem to be keeping it intentionally vague, but it's either a deterministic model (You can't change anything. If you go back and do something, that thing had already happened in the timeline you just left), or it's a Back To The Future model (You can change whatever you want, but if you change something and then go forward, you end up in the modified timeline) that is only diverging very slightly, if at all. Reasoning: In the conversation between Old Kagami and Young Alec (Alec 2), he mentioned Old Alec (Alec 1) telling him 'about this conversation' when they spoke in prison. The implication then being Alec 1 had experienced that conversation already as a child. This also implies in the future Kiera came from, there was at the very least one other Kagami (From *another* timeline) running around in the past. Meaning all this time travelling already happened. My sinking suspicion is that the message Alec sent back to himself is the only thing changed between the current timeline and Kiera's. Without that message, Alec 2 could easily assume Kagami lied about being sent back by Alec 1, and grow up working to change the world for what he thinks is the better. He also would have remembered poking around with the suit in the past, and would probably be smart enough not to do something dumb like *not* repeating the events that got him that far. Or if you want to avoid the open loop, you could easily start with a timeline where the only thing Alec invents is the time machine, which he uses to send his younger self all the advancements of the past 60 years. Assume he does this again as an old (and rich) man, after only a few timelines you'd end up with an *extremely* accelerated rate of technological advancement. (And probably a lot of regrets) Drakkus fucked around with this message at Aug 7, 2012 around 06:16 |
| # ? Aug 7, 2012 06:13 |
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It's also very possible that the purpose of sending them back is to warn Alec about the explosion that kills all the big wigs.
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| # ? Aug 7, 2012 09:21 |
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You don't use spoiler tags for speculation. It's not necessarily separate timelines. it can be just one too.
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| # ? Aug 7, 2012 10:09 |
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Well, except that Kellog's mom was killed, and Future Alec seemed to think that it's possible to change the past. Not sure how you can resolve the Kellog paradox with one timeline.
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| # ? Aug 7, 2012 10:21 |
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He thought she was his mother. He wasn't certain. He's adopted or something, isn't he?
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| # ? Aug 7, 2012 10:42 |
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Grandmother. *Grand*mother.
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| # ? Aug 7, 2012 11:04 |
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 was the best thing, he went the whole hog on that bad boy!
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| # ? Aug 7, 2012 11:56 |
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Benbola posted:It's also very possible that the purpose of sending them back is to warn Alec about the explosion that kills all the big wigs. I think we are watching a second round of time travel. It all happened once by accident and now the ones who are aware of it have slightly manipulated events to get what we are seeing now.
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| # ? Aug 7, 2012 14:58 |
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That was genuinely good. It's a shame it took them ten episodes to get there though.
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| # ? Aug 8, 2012 00:02 |
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We'll see if it ever comes back. I wanted to see a season 2 of Todd and the Book of Pure Evil
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| # ? Aug 8, 2012 01:42 |
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GreenNight posted:We'll see if it ever comes back. I wanted to see a season 2 of Todd and the Book of Pure Evil You mean season 3? e: If you didn't you've got a whole season you haven't watched!
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| # ? Aug 8, 2012 02:22 |
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So I sat through Tera Nova, but I could only make it to ep 5 of this. Is there anything redeeming at all about this show in the last episodes or is it just more sci-fi CSI?
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| # ? Aug 8, 2012 02:28 |
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KNITS MY FEEDS posted:You mean season 3? OH GOD 
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| # ? Aug 8, 2012 02:33 |
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Well I am really starting to enjoy this. The finale brings up a plot direction, perhaps. What if she was sent back to "lead" the revolution before the corporations take over. The flashbacks she has pretty much show the future corporate world as truly evil/bad. She was already questioning things in 2077. With her suit and implants she and Cigarette Smoking Man Junior would make a pretty kick rear end corporate crime fighting team. + in the next few seasons perhaps the evil corporations send back a little surprise(Canadian Terminator) to deal with her.
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| # ? Aug 8, 2012 04:10 |
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If it was that simple, there's the simple fact Alec is the creator of the largest and most powerful corporation and the majority of the most impressive technology in the future. Including the time travel device. If one chick back in time could make that big a difference, it's easier to just send a loving note that says "Hey dude I'm you from the future, by the way the world goes to poo poo, when you own 25% of it maybe not let that happen. Thanks.". The end, problem solved.
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| # ? Aug 8, 2012 04:36 |
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Watching the 10th episode I felt that about 30% of it was dragging it's heels saying, "we're about to tell you something big," and then they end on a cliff hanger. If they do a season 2, I sure hope it starts with a big reveal. But most likely they'll have to have a bunch of exposition scenes for the people who missed season 1. Seeing how TV shows are basically really long movies these days, sometimes I wish they could just pay for the whole series up front to avoid these retread moments.
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| # ? Aug 8, 2012 05:10 |
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Benbola I agree with you wholeheartedly, the finale was entertaining but it was far more intriguing than satisfying. Where we're at now should have been half way through the season, not the end of it. I like this show's ideas and most of the actors, if Continuum had Nikita's pacing I'd be all over it, but as it is I'm leaving each episode wanting more and not in that good way.
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| # ? Aug 8, 2012 06:58 |
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Boogaleeboo posted:If it was that simple, there's the simple fact Alec is the creator of the largest and most powerful corporation and the majority of the most impressive technology in the future. Including the time travel device. If one chick back in time could make that big a difference, it's easier to just send a loving note that says "Hey dude I'm you from the future, by the way the world goes to poo poo, when you own 25% of it maybe not let that happen. Thanks.". He did that too. We don't know that's what he wants, though.
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| # ? Aug 8, 2012 12:41 |
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Drakkus posted:They seem to be keeping it intentionally vague, but it's either a deterministic model (You can't change anything. If you go back and do something, that thing had already happened in the timeline you just left), or it's a Back To The Future model (You can change whatever you want, but if you change something and then go forward, you end up in the modified timeline) that is only diverging very slightly, if at all. Yeah that's all well thought out and all but at the end of the day time travel, for obvious reasons, makes absolutely no sense and as such I just wish it hadn't become this much of an important part of the story they're telling. I would've been happy with just one time travel incident to get them all there (in the past - our present) and for the rest of the story to just be how they adjust to living in a different time & culture. All this while wrestling with a waning motivation for "the cause" as they slowly come to realise they're never ever going to see if their actions have worked, only because of those actions they've made it extremely difficult to do what they now want: to make a new life for themselves as ordinary citizens. That's how I wish it had gone. Time travel, when used as a central plot point, usually becomes too convoluted to be followed with reasonable effort and/or just riddled with plot holes whichever way you look at it. And I agree with the sentiment that there should have been more. I'm getting really really sick of certain series' that just pace things far too slowly for no good reason, especially in this day and age where we have Vampire Diaries, Nikita, Pretty Little Liars, Revenge, 24 etc, to show us how moving a story along at a brisk pace is done. Slow and measured storytelling suits some series' but not ones like this.
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| # ? Aug 8, 2012 21:57 |
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In every scene they showed Kiera's husband I couldn't help feeling he is also a terrorist. No idea why though.
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| # ? Aug 10, 2012 11:47 |
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Merope posted:In every scene they showed Kiera's husband I couldn't help feeling he is also a terrorist. No idea why though. He's involved somehow. You can tell from his reaction to finding out she was in the room in the pilot.
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| # ? Aug 10, 2012 12:53 |
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Continuum's getting a second season!  http://www.showcase.ca/blog/archive...season-two.aspx
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| # ? Aug 25, 2012 20:36 |
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Color me surprised and happy Also, holy poo poo, I didn't realize it did this well: quote:Showcase announces the renewal of its #1 series that swept the nation this summer, Continuum. The phenomenally successful series will begin production on its 13 episode season two order in 2013.
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| # ? Aug 25, 2012 21:10 |
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That's awesome I love this show!
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| # ? Aug 26, 2012 04:03 |
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gently caress yes, I was really worried it'd be gone, really starting getting into it at the end.
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| # ? Aug 26, 2012 09:48 |
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Oh, hooray.
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| # ? Aug 27, 2012 01:34 |
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| # ? Aug 27, 2012 23:39 |
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Tuxedo Jack posted:
I guess that rules out having Lexx style nudity from now on.
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| # ? Aug 27, 2012 23:43 |
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Tuxedo Jack posted:
Heh, I wondered how long it would take for that to happen. I assume they're going to air it pretty soon then maybe air season two at roughly the same time as Canada?
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| # ? Aug 30, 2012 19:39 |
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El_Matarife posted:I assume they're going to air it pretty soon then maybe air season two at roughly the same time as Canada?
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| # ? Aug 30, 2012 21:04 |
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| # ? May 23, 2013 23:51 |
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I've only seen the first three episodes so far, but I'm really enjoying this show. I'm glad to hear that Sci-Fi(gently caress SYFY) is picking it up.
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