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Macaluso posted:Do the books go into why the dragons being born are the reason that magic in the world becomes so much stronger? It's been awhile since I read the books, and I don't think this would be a spoiler by thread standards since its window for appearing has already passed, but I'm trying to tread carefully. At one point after commissioning the pyromancers to make wildfire, one informs Tyrion that production is ahead of schedule, and for some reason the rituals they use are working better. Tyrion starts questioning that, worried that he's being scammed for more money, and the pyromancer kind of hesitatingly asks if Tyrion has heard anything about dragons lately. Tyrion (truthfully, at the time) says no, and the Pyromancer backs off about it. Edit: According to a web search, the pyromancer mentions that records of their order show that wildfire became harder to produce after the last dragon died Bremen fucked around with this message at Jun 10, 2012 around 06:36 |
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The White Walkers appeared long before the dragons were born and they're pretty symbolic of the whole 'magic things that disappeared but are now coming back' motif.
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Red comet at night, warlock's delight. Red comet at dawn, god damnit Theon. 
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Zone of Danger posted:Seriously gently caress whoever decided GoT season 3 spoilers were the new hilarious troll in MMOs. Read the books if you don't want to get spoiled. Otherwise all it takes is someone who's bored with about 5 seconds of free time.
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Or FYAD being FYAD.Holy Calamity! posted:Robb. Robb. I just...I don't get it. Richard Madden will personally campaign for the award by one-on-one chats with the voters, where he will sex stare at them. whowhatwhere fucked around with this message at Jun 10, 2012 around 07:11 |
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Ambiguatron posted:Joffrey in the book shows textbook serial killer tendencies- he enjoys torturing animals, for one. He cut up a cat when he was young, has the Kingsguard release animals in the Red Keep for him to experiment on with his various crossbows, and makes people fight to the death and inflicts obscene tortures on people in his court. During the Blackwater, he actually kills people, firing his crossbow from the walls. I kind of like the show's portrayal better, just because I wouldn't be able to stand him if he was actually competent and could do something in battle.
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| # ? Jun 10, 2012 08:43 |
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iCe-CuBe. posted:
Can someone give me a rundown of this e-drama? Without spoiling future books of course (current books I don't care)
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Oh, curse you... I'd already laughed the first time it got brought up, but reading it again I start to see how loving funny it was. God drat.
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She just really, really hates any deviation at all from the text. She's like SanSan shippers only pissed that Amory Lorch was the one killed by Jaqen instead of a character named Weese, who was Arya's boss in the kitchens in the books (Arya worked there instead of for Tywin, who she never interacted with).
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whowhatwhere posted:She just really, really hates any deviation at all from the text. She's like SanSan shippers only pissed that Amory Lorch was the one killed by Jaqen instead of a character named Weese, who was Arya's boss in the kitchens in the books (Arya worked there instead of for Tywin, who she never interacted with). I'm apt to agree with her; Arya's arc in the novel was muuuuch better and could still have been adapted pretty much exactly.
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^^^ But with several extra characters introduced just for the sake of it. They needed to condense it down, and the way they did it was good enough.Macaluso posted:Sam is better looking than Theon Ned Stark is better looking than Theon after being beheaded and his head dipped in tar. On the other hand, Alfie Allen is better looking than his sister the pig-faced slag.
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CuddleChunks posted:Red comet at night, warlock's delight. 
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Bremen posted:It's been awhile since I read the books, and I don't think this would be a spoiler by thread standards since its window for appearing has already passed, but I'm trying to tread carefully. Neat! Saul Goode posted:The White Walkers appeared long before the dragons were born and they're pretty symbolic of the whole 'magic things that disappeared but are now coming back' motif. Yeah, but some magic things still existed before the dragons came too. Maybe the White Walkers are now getting stronger? Their army of wights was loving massive in that last scene.
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Holy Calamity! posted:Robb. Robb. I just...I don't get it. They don't want to split the Thrones voters between Dinklidge and Allen, but they also don't want to be seen as only backing one guy, so they went with someone who has no chance of stealing the spotlight from a possible second Dinklidge win.
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Universe Master posted:They don't want to split the Thrones voters between Dinklidge and Allen, but they also don't want to be seen as only backing one guy, so they went with someone who has no chance of stealing the spotlight from a possible second Dinklidge win. I'm still a little puzzled that they'd go for Dinklage over Allen, though. Wouldn't the same actor be less likely to get the same award twice in a row?
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NihilCredo posted:That's the best explanation I've heard and I feel dumb for not figuring it out. Bryan Cranston seems to prove that can very much happen: 2008 Emmy Award for Outstanding Lead Actor in a Drama - Series Breaking Bad 2009 Emmy Award for Outstanding Lead Actor in a Drama - Series Breaking Bad 2010 Emmy Award for Outstanding Lead Actor in a Drama - Series Breaking Bad
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Occasionally you get someone winning a career achievement Emmy, like Kyle Chandler in the last season of Friday Night Lights (although very much deserved and he should have won a couple), but usually the Emmy voters are rather lazy and just vote for the same people every year unless there's a really good reason not to. Considering this season was built around Tyrion and Blackwater is basically a perfect Emmybait episode for him, he's going to win.
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I kind of like the show's portrayal better, just because I wouldn't be able to stand him if he was actually competent and could do something in battle.
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Jedit posted:Ned Stark is better looking than Theon after being beheaded and his head dipped in tar. On the other hand, Alfie Allen is better looking than his sister the pig-faced slag. I dunno if you're talking about Lily or Yara here, but either way do you realize how cripplingly goony this makes you look. Also if they're promoting actors based on attractiveness (Kit, Richard), explain why the gently caress Nikolaj doesn't have twelve Emmies yet.
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Jonny Angel posted:I dunno if you're talking about Lily or Yara here, but either way do you realize how cripplingly goony this makes you look. Except for the part where Yara does kinda look like a pig.
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What I kinda don't get is why Dinklage is being considered as a supporting actor, he's the closest the show has to a lead. He's even the first name to come up on the opening credits.
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DoctorStrangelove posted:What I kinda don't get is why Dinklage is being considered as a supporting actor, he's the closest the show has to a lead. He's even the first name to come up on the opening credits. It's an ensemble show and he has a better chance of winning supporting.
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kiimo posted:Except for the part where Yara does kinda look like a pig. I mean, the makeup's not doing her any favors but she's sti—gently caress it, why am I getting into this. Toast Museum fucked around with this message at Jun 10, 2012 around 16:38 |
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kiimo posted:Except for the part where Yara does kinda look like a pig. Apraxin fucked around with this message at Jun 10, 2012 around 16:39 |
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Oh hey, my first double post. Might as well put something in it. vvvvvvvvvvv I'd recommend it. For anyone on the fence about picking up the books, think about it this way: it's going to take two seasons for them to adapt Book 3, which book readers generally agree is the best one. That's two whole years in which some rear end in a top hat can carelessly spoil it for you. Apraxin fucked around with this message at Jun 10, 2012 around 16:55 |
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kiimo posted:Except for the part where Yara does kinda look like a pig. Imma just take this as "Yara is kinda cute and pigs are adorable as all hell", which is a statement I can completely agree with. Also holy gently caress, Arya and Tywin's scenes were some of the best stuff in this season, and if those represent a DOWNgrade from her book arc, maybe I ought to read these books.
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Jonny Angel posted:Also holy gently caress, Arya and Tywin's scenes were some of the best stuff in this season, and if those represent a DOWNgrade from her book arc, maybe I ought to read these books. It's not even about the scenes being better or worse, per se. It's that show-Arya just kind of hangs out having awesome scenes for a while, whereas book-Arya has more of an arc.
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whowhatwhere posted:She just really, really hates any deviation at all from the text. She's like SanSan shippers only pissed that Amory Lorch was the one killed by Jaqen instead of a character named Weese, who was Arya's boss in the kitchens in the books (Arya worked there instead of for Tywin, who she never interacted with).
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It's terrifying that we won't see this shows conclusion for probably another 7 years *_*
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hobbez posted:It's terrifying that we won't see this shows conclusion for probably another 7 years *_* Seriously. They're filming season 3 and 4 back to back right? Show them back to back damnit 
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Boy this off season sure has been flying... Uggg... what do you mean it's only been a week?
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The way they handled Arya's arc in the books sounds like it makes much more sense, is much more explicit in its development of the character, and is a dramatic improvement in raw storytelling over the show. It also would have denied us several episodes worth of Charles Dance and Maisie Williams glaring acting chops at each other, so gently caress that poo poo. I was initially torn about it, but then one of those scenes was on while I was eating some cereal, and gently caress that poo poo. That was great television. Also, I don't know what y'all goony assholes are talking about, Yara is pretty as heck, as well as having awesome scenes.
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hobbez posted:It's terrifying that we won't see this shows conclusion for probably another 7 years *_* At least it's better than the book conclusion in 14 years
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Toast Museum posted:It's not even about the scenes being better or worse, per se. It's that show-Arya just kind of hangs out having awesome scenes for a while, whereas book-Arya has more of an arc. This. Really, it's weird that they spent so much effort on adding an arc to Dany's story that was kinda 'eh' and then took away a much better arc in Arya's plotline. It wouldn't even have been that hard to keep the arc and the Tywin scenes. Away all Goats posted:Seriously. They're filming season 3 and 4 back to back right? Show them back to back damnit That was a rumor/bit of fan speculation that turned out not to be true. They're not being filmed back-to-back.
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Axeface posted:Also, I don't know what y'all goony assholes are talking about, Yara is pretty as heck, as well as having awesome scenes.  Cute as a button 
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hobbez posted:It's terrifying that we won't see this shows conclusion for probably another 7 years *_* What worries me is being able to keep the gang together that long. If the wrong actor dies, or gets pissed off and wants to leave, that can be a major problem. Most people already don't like The New Mountain... can you imagine the uproar over Arya 2.0?
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Macaluso posted:Neat! They could be getting stronger. Either way, the very first scene of the series showed White Walkers. I have no idea how much time passed between that scene and where we are now but I imagine the White Walkers have been building their army of walking dead for quite a while.
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Arya's arc in Book 2 is likely going to get spread out Season 3+4, and for anyone who's read the book and seen the show it is very obvious why they are doing it that way. I seriously doubt it's been cut out entirely.
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KamikazePotato posted:Arya's arc in Book 2 is likely going to get spread out Season 3+4, and for anyone who's read the book and seen the show it is very obvious why they are doing it that way. I seriously doubt it's been cut out entirely. The problem is that it could just as easily have been done in Season 2. While the Arya/Tywin scenes were great, the book scenes that were cut were better.
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KamikazePotato posted:Arya's arc in Book 2 is likely going to get spread out Season 3+4, and for anyone who's read the book and seen the show it is very obvious why they are doing it that way. I seriously doubt it's been cut out entirely. I assume that's that's true. But still, something should have changed her at Harranhal. It feels like she's the same character at the end of the season that she was at the start. That's not a good writing adaptation IMO, considering how much Harranhal forever changed her in the book. Also it was fine replacing her scenes with Tywin in the middle of the season, but towards the end, they gave her almost nothing to do. In the last 3-4 episodes, they just took out some of her scenes and replaced them with nothing.
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Azure_Horizon posted:The problem is that it could just as easily have been done in Season 2. While the Arya/Tywin scenes were great, the book scenes that were cut were better. Ah, but are they better than Arya scenes in book 3 that they'll cut/compress in order to fill her book 2 arc in? This is a rhetorical question, don't answer this, you might get probated if you answer this.
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