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FotS is also fun when you decide "gently caress guns gently caress everything" and go full kachi stacks (with supplemental armstrong guns anyways because they're fun). It lets you play around with some of the other mechanics that you usually neglect like line of sight and creeping along forests, since if you don't you'll get shot to death and that is bad. I was doing a coop campaign with a buddy and my happiest memory is winding up as reinforcements and arriving at basically the same exact spot that a larger nontraditional enemy force showed up and massacring them.
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Murderion posted:FotS is total war with the brakes off - it's a mad race to get the most money for the biggest, baddest toys you can get your hands on. While in Shogun you have to balance food against development, in FotS the only things holding you back are money and people getting prissy when you demolish a tea house to build a sweatshop. It's utter apocalyptic hellfire that pushes the engine to its limits and makes a downright mockery of a lot of the battle mechanics. The agent and general skill trees are streamlined and a lot better than vanilla S2. I think Shogun 2 probably has the most interesting setting in terms of the variety of units it gives you - every different unit actually plays a different role and nothing is really a straight upgrade, rather than the various units in something like Rome 2/Medieval where you have a bunch of different factions with slightly different units that aren't really much different from each other at all. The battle AI definitely has a few weaknesses though - it's very bad at sieges, either on offense or defense, and in the open field battles it has a habit of just forming one HUGE line of all its troops and then refusing to move until you attack it. Still, it's a setting I'd like to see them go back to at some point, since it's a fairly unique one as far as military history goes.
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The Cheshire Cat posted:Still, it's a setting I'd like to see them go back to at some point, since it's a fairly unique one as far as military history goes. They really should do a Chinese Total War at some point if we want to see Medieval combat with the crazy turned all the way up. For all sorts of reasons I'm actually amazed that they haven't done it already.
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Battles with friends by your side are so much more fun — now’s your chance to invite a few buddies to Total War: ARENA. Below you'll find 3 free Alpha keys; just hand them out and team up to play with allies! 1) 76A9Q-G8CX3-FNWL2 2) 5607Y-4TFLM-NBQ40 3) C3NTH-HDKWY-KEV33 Your friends can redeem these keys on Steam to download the game immediately. They'll be playing within minutes! Don't lurk, post if you take one
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Ahdinko posted:Battles with friends by your side are so much more fun — now’s your chance to invite a few buddies to Total War: ARENA. Below you'll find 3 free Alpha keys; just hand them out and team up to play with allies! Thanks, I took number 1.
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Jul 9, 2015 20:49
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Boom, first time i actually was fast enough for one of these. 2 is taken, thank you so much!
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I grabbed this one, thanks for giving these away.
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All my friends are already in so you guys can have these 1) MKX0Y-9Z92N-EP69C 2) HJ6X4-E8VBW-M8I4A 3) NFRAC-95W6X-GLZ24
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Mans posted:All my friends are already in so you guys can have these Grabbed this one. Thanks a lot for the code. edit: I have no idea what the gently caress I'm doing. Gimnbo fucked around with this message at 07:30 on Jul 10, 2015 |
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Jul 10, 2015 05:05
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Mans posted:2) HJ6X4-E8VBW-M8I4A Thanks bro, I'll be sure to check this out tomorrow night!
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Mans posted:3) NFRAC-95W6X-GLZ24 Took this one, thanks a ton!
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Keys for everyone! 1) KTTV9-CBKNA-AF8WJ 2) 97B0J-KXK3K-A4IGL 3) WY357-V2GW0-2EN73 On that note I can't even play Arena anymore, I lose the connection to the game on every match. Any one else running into this? All is fine during match making, loading, picking spawns etc but when the actual game starts I drop out straight away or within a minute or so. Once I drop out I can go straight back into the queue so there is a connection there. It doesn't seem to be the internet itself as other games work fine and streaming music etc doesn't have any problems.
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Sheizerbrick posted:3) WY357-V2GW0-2EN73 Grabbed it, thanks buddy.
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Sheizerbrick posted:Keys for everyone! Grabbed it and... no MacOS support. I'm dumb. Will pass out codes when/if I get them.
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Here are three more if anyone's interested 1) NPHNG-ZN8M4-W9X84 2) CLGM5-A5Z8L-YW45K 3) HRC44-3PPY9-58W7C
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peer posted:Here are three more if anyone's interested Grabbed this one! Thanks peer! Can't wait to kite some fuckers!
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peer posted:Here are three more if anyone's interested You're a baller, and I want you to know that!
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My Arena commander is up to level 3 now with no way to get back down, does that mean I get dropped into tier 3 matches or is that only dependant on my (still tier 1) units?
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Did friend invite keys go out for arena? I cant see them anywhere if they did. Would be awesome to invite my friend to play.
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queeb posted:Did friend invite keys go out for arena? I cant see them anywhere if they did. Would be awesome to invite my friend to play.
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Asehujiko posted:My Arena commander is up to level 3 now with no way to get back down, does that mean I get dropped into tier 3 matches or is that only dependant on my (still tier 1) units? I've been wondering about this too.
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Asehujiko posted:My Arena commander is up to level 3 now with no way to get back down, does that mean I get dropped into tier 3 matches or is that only dependant on my (still tier 1) units? commander level is what affects your matchmaker tier so yes, even if you only have tier 1 units you'll be put against tier 5 generals i think. i don't know how they plan to develop a mechanism to introduce new friends to the game. I've let Alexander propusely on tier II because otherwise i'd force my new friends into tier V\VI matches.
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Mans posted:commander level is what affects your matchmaker tier so yes, even if you only have tier 1 units you'll be put against tier 5 generals i think.
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 In Arena you can control the units of CPU and dropped allies. Nothing like desperately clicking on other units while you're being pushed back into your base to learn how the game works. Suddenly I had the weight of a fifth of my team pushing the bad guys right back out.
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Holy poo poo the Germania map sucks balls. CA: "let's give both sides A loving CASTLE around their cap, surely this won't prompt a giant loving stalemate at tiers where nobody can take siege weapons!"
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Figured i'd give this arena thing a try. Is it as tedious as i think or is it actually fun?
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TwatHammer posted:Figured i'd give this arena thing a try. Is it as tedious as i think or is it actually fun? -Your teammates milling around 50 meters behind the front line while you get crushed? -Your teammates defending your cap circle with all their units while half the map in front of it is empty and you are getting crushed on the front line? -Your teammates defending the empty space behind the cap circle while the enemy caps in front of them? -Your teammates parking their armies in a forest and alt tabbing out? -Your teammates ceding control of all their units to you at the start of the game, leaving you do do the micro of two people for the rest of the game with no interface support for controlling more than 3 units at the same time? -Your teammates shooting catapults into your melee fights, killing your troops about three times as fast as the enemy? If the answer to any of the above is "not very high", you don't want to play this game. If the answer is "yes I can handle the worst teammates that a World of Tanks style game can produce", you'll find it to basically be world of tanks but with the tanks replaced by tiny barebones total war armies.
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I've been playing a lot of CK2 for the last years so the standard Total War campaign feels a bit shallow in comparison but Total War still has some great battles sometimes when the AI manages to finds it's rear end. At very least I had a lot of fun blowing up a far more numerous army of dudes with swords and spears with my cannons and then having my rifle dudes shoot the ragged survivors to death when they got close.
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Asehujiko posted:So basically I hosed myself out of playing Militiades for now until I get some tier 3 greek units? it's not that bad to use tier II units on a tier III general but to avoid some frustration i suggest unlocking tier 3 unit with Leonidas, yes  Also, you can see when your general gains a tier by the dots bellow his tier when you unlock skill levels. Fill it up and he goes up a tier. So unlock as much skills as you can without filling it and you're good.
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Arena is the closest thing to Myth since Myth 2. Which is more an indictment of videogaming than an endorsement of Arena since it's not actually all that mythy but still. Anyway I like it
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Is there a place where we organize coordinated Arena goonery? edit: This game is everything bad about World of Tanks but with a sense of detachment that makes losing battles a lot less frustrating. I've yet to get actually frustrated at losing a game. Maybe it gets worse as you go up the ladder. Gimnbo fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Jul 11, 2015 |
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FreudianSlippers posted:I've been playing a lot of CK2 for the last years so the standard Total War campaign feels a bit shallow in comparison but Total War still has some great battles sometimes when the AI manages to finds it's rear end. At very least I had a lot of fun blowing up a far more numerous army of dudes with swords and spears with my cannons and then having my rifle dudes shoot the ragged survivors to death when they got close. If you manage to whup the other guys enough with your artillery, consider putting your infantry in rank fire mode and holding fire until the poor bastards get to maybe half your riflemen's range; the enemy units frequently suffer 100% casualties before they get out of range.
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Arena seems like fun but victory seems entirely based on how well even a small part of your team is working together. If you have two people working on their movement and organizing flanks you have a good chance of destroying a part of the enemy army, and if you have 3 or 4 roaming around together and picking on the weakest side its a steamroll. Players seems to want to just immediately separate into their own little hosts and get picked off one by one though, or abandon you to go run to the other side of the map once you've engaged a group larger than your own. I like that they brought unit painting back in though, and hope they at least reconsider the idea of their next mainline release having a structured multiplayer mode of some kind going forward. For all it's faults I think the Shogun 2 multiplayer was more compelling than the old freeform system they went back to afterwards. Sharkopath fucked around with this message at 08:24 on Jul 11, 2015 |
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In Shogun 2, can you only build one encampment per province, or can you build all encampment types as long as you have the slots for it? Going crazy trying to figure this out without researching for 20 turns. Edit: I'm going to assume it's just one. Funny how the best strategy in Shogun is to never upgrade any buildings except the one you start with, because growth will always earn you more than buildings. Party In My Diapee fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Jul 11, 2015 |
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I also have 3 Arena alpha keys to give away, enjoy: 1) WL45Q-RDDBY-XIL80 2) 3R5ZZ-QXCVH-B9G77 3) LMJEY-YVL77-8LH72 Redeemable on Steam. Try to find someone to play with because solo play can be quite frustrating! I always thought WoT players were the worst, but this taught me it can always get worse!
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Vodos posted:3) LMJEY-YVL77-8LH72 Got it, thanks!
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Vodos posted:2) 3R5ZZ-QXCVH-B9G77 Grabbed this, cheers!
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I'm probably going to regret this. Been watching Sharpe and getting a hard on for musket warfare, so I've decided to reinstall Empire Total War. What mods are there to make this the least painful I can? No butt ugly towns, no horrendous star forts, no pop-gun muskets and actual line combat?
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Does anyone with Arena experience know why Drop Shields is grayed out like 90% of the time? I mash F as hard as I can but my hoplites are just too emotionally attached to their shields to murder skirmishers.
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