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THE PWNER: Sep 7, 2006; Come daddy, I'll show you the end-game!

I clicked a banner ad on a fansite. Blizzard, please fix your security!!!!!!!

# ? Jun 17, 2012 18:33

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# ? May 21, 2013 15:52

Srice: Sep 11, 2011

0staf posted:

wait, who buys a smartphone because of the authenticator app? how are blizzard forcing people to buy smartphones?

People who want to use the RMAH but don't realize you can just get an emulator or something to run the authenticator.

# ? Jun 17, 2012 18:34

0staf: Jun 11, 2006; FFE or die trying

Can we just all agree, gently caress this corrupted earth, blizzard, mi$e mor$aime you'll be the first up against the wall

Srice posted:

People who want to use the RMAH but don't realize you can just get an emulator or something to run the authenticator.

the only solution is to buy this $60000 smarthphone with 120% going to blizzard, i see the light

# ? Jun 17, 2012 18:34

Beck: Dec 8, 2003

You shouldn't have put in the image macro, and your responses were way too obvious. This could have been a great thread, but you are bad at trolling.

Consider arguing with people about tech security in wowplayers.txt for a few days beforehand.

# ? Jun 17, 2012 18:36

Serisothikos: Dec 4, 2004; "It's SpongeBob. I'm a SpongeBob fan."

I'm gonna let everyone else deal with the rest of this post and just take a gander at this here:

GG GL posted:

the $60 PREMIUM price tag they charge for their games

Diablo 3 costs less than XCaliber 2097 for the SNES cost me Back In The Day and it's fun and has almost completely infinite replayability whereas that game was poo poo. I feel I've gotten rather more out of my money this time around.

Let's not talk about how dumb I was to buy that game

# ? Jun 17, 2012 18:37

Khorne: May 1, 2002; My image was too larg e so I got this

You can get an authenticator for free. Blizzard has offered them for the cost of shipping many times as well. There's no real need to debate the security of the open source windows authenticators, but let's leave it at them being significantly more secure than not having one and roughly as secure as a physical one.

People get hacked because:

They use the same email and password elsewhere. This is likely the #1 way people get compromised. Never use a password with value elsewhere. Every time a site is compromised any combination of information is going to be used to attack battle.net accounts. Most RMT sites don't encrypt user information and freely prey on their own users. Fansites get compromised all the time and don't notice, participated in it themselves, or don't post about it.
They share their information with someone else. Most people don't use a unique password for their game account, and even fewer people change their password immediately after sharing it with a friend.
They buy services. That guy who you sold gladiator to or who leveled your character for you? He's going to check your account in a few months, and if it doesn't work he might just check your email with your old password.
They download "addons", hacks, "mods", or "patches" and run them on their system. WoW addons themselves are secure. Addon.exe isn't. Many people don't know the difference. Ever tried to put up a fake hack? You will get a few thousand accounts pretty fast. Real hacks with stealthy callbacks that don't trigger antivirus/windows firewall/online virus scan sites are a literal goldmine. Especially if you sit on the information.
They bought their account from someone else. In BNet1.0 games you can still presend password recovery emails, and even if they email is changed the old key will work for them to get right back in and jack your poo poo. In the modern Battle.Net system changing things is hard, and even if you get it changed there's a decent chance they can steal it back. It's not uncommon for some of the RMT sites to photoshop fake ids to send to Blizzard to regain old accounts they sold. It's technically a felony, but the chance of Blizzard pressing charges is close to zero and most don't reside in the US.
They get compromised once and don't properly reclaim their accounts or secure their system. If you're particularly dumb you might not even change your email password. Clearly it was only your battle.net account "hacked". If you are a bit more savvy you might not notice that they changed your secret question, the sms recovery info, or the "recovery" email address most free providers provide.
They cycle through passwords. People with account and password lists have things that automatically go through them. Just because your information stopped working once doesn't mean they aren't going to try it in the future. There are still some groups out there still occasionally checking information from three or four years ago.
Why does flash constantly pop up that update thing? It's so annoying. Let me find a way to disable it. While it is pretty rare for battlenet accounts to get compromised like this these days, exploits like this are found extremely often. It's certainly a way you could lose your account, but with how easy the other methods are it's not used as often as you'd think. Most people don't want to own up to their poor account security and are likely to try and blame this.

In short, don't use the same password for anything you care about. If you ever get "hacked" reformat, change every password that matters, make sure you have control of your recovery options, make sure your secret question was not compromised (and if it was attempt to change it where ever it was used).

Email accounts, anything involving credit card information, and game accounts should all have unique passwords. Fan sites can all use a single disposable password, probably with a disposable email, that is a joke, because if you get "compromised" there it hardly matters.

# ? Jun 17, 2012 18:39

Serisothikos: Dec 4, 2004; "It's SpongeBob. I'm a SpongeBob fan."

Hey here's a tired slogan you can use when you go picket their offices:

BLIZZARD LIED, MY WIZARD DIED

See it rhymes and is topical.

# ? Jun 17, 2012 18:40

FUCK SNEEP: Apr 21, 2007

Good points, OP. I will definitely question any future purchases from Blizzard.

# ? Jun 17, 2012 18:41

messagemode1: Jun 9, 2006

I never thought about it before but this OP definitely opened my eyes. Gonna go get my refund right now, hope no one's hacked my account in the interim!!

vvvv s...poo poo!!! now I have to change my hotmail password

# ? Jun 17, 2012 18:44

Serisothikos: Dec 4, 2004; "It's SpongeBob. I'm a SpongeBob fan."

messagemode1 posted:

I never thought about it before but this OP definitely opened my eyes. Gonna go get my refund right now, hope no one's hacked my account in the interim!!

Sorry I just hijacked your session ID because that's certainly not a myth.

# ? Jun 17, 2012 18:47

Manslaughter: Apr 5, 2009

# ? Jun 17, 2012 18:48

Mirthless: Mar 27, 2011; Literally Caesar

Beck posted:

You shouldn't have put in the image macro, and your responses were way too obvious. This could have been a great thread, but you are bad at trolling.

Consider arguing with people about tech security in wowplayers.txt for a few days beforehand.

He's probably afraid that if he trolls too good that he'd end up having to spend

Really, I was almost entirely convinced until I got to the conclusion section of the post, where suddenly everything got too over the top stupid to be believable anymore. Stupider things have been said in the hacking thread/diablo bitching and unironic goons ironically posting it unironically in diabloplayers.txt

# ? Jun 17, 2012 18:51

Fleve: Nov 5, 2011

Are you guys sure you can trust 'gg gl' on this?

- If you look up 'gg gl' on google, you'll find among the links the site of Mersen, more specifically their 400V, 500V, 690V gL-gG Cylindrical Fuse. [evidence]

- Mersen is located at 374 Merrimac Street, Newburyport, MA 01950, United States. Of course everyone knows you shouldn't trust the immediate location, but! very close by is another firm, Adder Corporation. [evidence]

- Adder Technologies produces goods that are used by Apple, Dell, Lenovo and HP. Do you see the pattern here? No Samsumg in this list! [evidence].

- Of course we all know that Apple and Samsung are fierce competitors. It only stands to reason that this is but another convoluted attempt by the evil corporation that is Apple to come upon these forums in the guise of 'gg gl' and discredit the happy rainbow company that is Samsumg, keeping them from spreading joy and happiness with their phones that come pre-installed with some of the greatest software that you will never get rid of.

This conspiracy runs far deeper than we thought and now we are all part of it

# ? Jun 17, 2012 18:58

Serisothikos: Dec 4, 2004; "It's SpongeBob. I'm a SpongeBob fan."

Fleve posted:

Are you guys sure you can trust 'gg gl' on this?

- If you look up 'gg gl' on google, you'll find among the links the site of Mersen, more specifically their 400V, 500V, 690V gL-gG Cylindrical Fuse. [evidence]

- Mersen is located at 374 Merrimac Street, Newburyport, MA 01950, United States. Of course everyone knows you shouldn't trust the immediate location, but! very close by is another firm, Adder Corporation. [evidence]

- Adder Technologies produces goods that are used by Apple, Dell, Lenovo and HP. Do you see the pattern here? No Samsumg in this list! [evidence].

- Of course we all know that Apple and Samsung are fierce competitors. It only stands to reason that this is but another convoluted attempt by the evil corporation that is Apple to come upon these forums in the guise of 'gg gl' and discredit the happy rainbow company that is Samsumg, keeping them from spreading joy and happiness with their phones that come pre-installed with some of the greatest software that you will never get rid.

This conspiracy runs far deeper than we thought and now we are all part of it

Well, another thing to keep in mind is that Newburyport, MA, had an extraordinarily high rate of inbreeding among its original settlers and clearly some of that is what brought us the OP

# ? Jun 17, 2012 19:02

QuarkJets: Sep 8, 2008; We're on a mission from God

Smartphones also have GPS tracking features, Blizzard is forcing us to buy smartphones and wants to track our location at all times, they want to know when we're not playing their games and why

# ? Jun 17, 2012 19:03

Monomythian: Sep 3, 2008; Do you remember the Tsar ? Well, I'm like a Tsar.

GG GL posted:

The tricky thing with conspiracies is that they are so hard to prove, that any time you suggest one the conversation shuts down. It turns into a mud slingling, a hate filled beat down of smug dismissals. They call you crazy, they bring up �fake moonlanding� or �911 was inside job � strawmen to group you in with crazies that see conspiricies everywhere.

For that reason I am not going to present a conspiracy here; rather, I am going to present a series of facts, and leave it to the reader to decide if there is any connection or not. Is there anything you should be concerned about? Lets see.

Blizzards security record
It�s poor. In addition to the thousands of reports of compromised attacks every day. You would think this would make blizzard step up security, but they don�t even have case sensitive passwords. Gold farmers, who have stolen accounts for years, spam with impunity. And that�s not even mentioning their networks long standing susceptibility to SQL injection. But would blizzard WANT people to lose their accounts? No, of course not, it�s not like they are profiting off of it.

Oh wait.

Authenticator cost
Each authenticator sells for $6.50, and although that may seem small compared to the $60 PREMIUM price tag they charge for their games, keep in mind that there is virtually no overhead. Unlike spending hundereds of millions to make a game, they just have to chuck a quarter for a Chinese company to spit out a random number generator IC in a plastic key chain.
But Blizzards not in it for the money you say! After all, there is a free alternative!

Oh wait.

Is a $600 smartphone really free? But that�s besides the point, blizzard doesn�t profit off of phones do they? Before we answer that, lets step back for a bit, and look at Blizzards relationship with Korea.

Influence in Korea
Starcraft, doritos, TV, internet cafes, Blizzards influence and relationship with Korea has been known for a long time. They even announced Starcraft 2 there. Blizzard is everywhere in Korea.
Even the government.

http://wow.joystiq.com/2012/06/16/s...in-online-rpgs/

Korea bans botting in online games? What? How can a government ban something in a video game? Is blizzard this prevalent in Korea� this powerful.. to enact their will into law? Apparently.

But what does this have to do with blizzard profiting off of smart phones? Everyone knows that apple is the biggest smartphone manufacturer, and they are based in the US.

The number one smartphone manufacturer in the world

Is apple right? No, it�s not.
http://mashable.com/2012/04/27/samsung-number-one/

Samsung is the number one smartphone manufacturer in the world period. Not only this, but they also make � of the iphone:

http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/08/sa...iphone-4-parts/

So Samsung, beyond any other company in the world, has a huge financial interest in selling more smartphones. Where, you may ask, is Samsung located?

The US? No.

Japan? No.

Oh? They are Located in�. korea? What a coincidence!

There are 196 countries in the world, I�m sure these two colliding in the same one is purely chance; after all, Blizzard would never partner with another corporation to profit off its loyal fan base.

Paypal.
Heh, forgot about them did ya? But they are not partners with blizzard, they are just the payment company. That huge 15% fee goes directly to them, it�s their normal fee� isn�t it?

Oh wait.

https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=...ycNHvYTtBhh75Lw

Paypals fees are all under 3%. Why would Blizzard accept such a huge fee on their game? Do you think�. I mean is it possible� Blizzard gets a cut of that 15%? Is it possible, blizzard hid its cut in a service so you couldn�t hold them accountable? No, I�m sure it�s not. I�m sure Blizzard, the biggest game company in the world, the most profitable game company in the world, just got pushed around by paypal.

Yeah that�s it.

Conclusion
It is possible it is all a coincidence. Blizzard might just happen to have bad security, just happen to choose to do nothing about it, just happen to force people to buy smartphones, just happen to own the government in the country with the biggest smartphone manufacturer in the world, and just happen to not profit off of it despite a history of corporate collusion (such as with paypal). It is possible this is all just a coincidence, just as when a street urchin deals you the same card over and over. But although it�s POSSIBLE it�s just a coincidence, the 5th or 6th time that 2 of hearts come up, you have to wonder�.

Maybe the deck is rigged.

But no, Blizzard woud never do that to its customers� would they?

I�ll leave it for you to decide.

# ? Jun 17, 2012 19:10

Kewpuh: Oct 22, 2003; when i dip you dip we dip

What an unbelievably lovely thread that is now going to get stuck. Feel free anyone to poo poo it up.

# ? Jun 17, 2012 19:23

GAY KARATE MAN: Jun 24, 2011

I bought a smartphone before I knew there was an authenticator for it (a Samsung no less). Feed the insatiable Korean beast!

I'll give you bonus points if you find a way to work twitch SC2 streams into this.

# ? Jun 17, 2012 19:24

0staf: Jun 11, 2006; FFE or die trying

# ? Jun 17, 2012 19:24

Vargatron: Apr 19, 2008; WHY AM I YELLING? I AM VERY CONFUSED RIGHT NOW! I SEEM TO HAVE MISPLACED MY KEYS.

I'm glad you decided to reveal this "consfearacy" to all of us on the forums.

Edit: I'm assuming that image macros are still bannable even with threadshitting allowed in this particular thread?

# ? Jun 17, 2012 19:25

0staf: Jun 11, 2006; FFE or die trying

Kewpuh posted:

What an unbelievably lovely thread that is now going to get stuck. Feel free anyone to poo poo it up.

Bring back zeez you fucker

# ? Jun 17, 2012 19:25

FUCK SNEEP: Apr 21, 2007

Thanks for sticky mod

. Really want more people to know about this. Blizzard is going down...

# ? Jun 17, 2012 19:26

Kewpuh: Oct 22, 2003; when i dip you dip we dip

0staf posted:

Bring back zeez you fucker

What is zeez

# ? Jun 17, 2012 19:27

0staf: Jun 11, 2006; FFE or die trying

Kewpuh posted:

What is zeez

http://forums.somethingawful.com/fo...php?forumid=250

# ? Jun 17, 2012 19:28

Kewpuh: Oct 22, 2003; when i dip you dip we dip

0staf posted:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/fo...php?forumid=250

Oh, yea that's not coming back. Wasn't my call anyways.

# ? Jun 17, 2012 19:29

Serisothikos: Dec 4, 2004; "It's SpongeBob. I'm a SpongeBob fan."

Kewpuh posted:

What an unbelievably lovely thread that is now going to get stuck. Feel free anyone to poo poo it up.

Watch out or you'll be labeled an agent of the conspiracy!!!

# ? Jun 17, 2012 19:29

0staf: Jun 11, 2006; FFE or die trying

Kewpuh posted:

Oh, yea that's not coming back. Wasn't my call anyways.

Rip in peace i guess then

# ? Jun 17, 2012 19:29

Observe Me: Jan 21, 2006; I know shits bad right now with all that starving bullshit and the dust storms and we are running out of french fries and burrito coverings. But I got a solution!