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eXXon
Aug 19, 2002



Wind and Mobilicity are not the exactly same. Sure they used the same bands and so are compatible phone-wise, but Mobilicity usually has more generous plans, including promotional plans that are sometimes (but increasingly rarely) lifetime rather limited term, whereas Wind's tab basically pays for your phone if you stay with them for 3 years. Also Mobilicity offers increasingly generous discounts on your plan if you pay for multiple months (in advance?), which is roughly comparable to Wind's tab but locks you in for up to a year at a time. If you do pay for a year you can get unlimited everything for $30-35 right now, compared to $40 for Wind. However given that Mobilicity doesn't tend to discount all of their phones regularly it might be wiser to get a phone from Wind first and switch over if you don't like the service.

Mobilicity's also -owned and so is for now safe from whatever fuckery Ottawa chooses to do with foreign ownership regulations. They use completely different towers so you may get crap reception with one but not the other depending on where you live. Both use higher frequencies than the big 3 and hence tend to suck indoors, although I've found I can use both Mobilicity and Rogers at some points in the subway in Toronto (Bloor and St. Clair station platforms, which I think are shallower than most stops).

eXXon fucked around with this message at Jun 25, 2012 around 12:42

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eXXon
Aug 19, 2002



I'm sure you'll all be sad to know that Rogers' profits have slumped as they are signing up record numbers of victims customers with subsidized smartphones. I guess I'm supposed to feel sorry for them because there's no way they'll make up those subsidies within a year of their ridiculous $60/month+ plans.

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It [Rogers] estimates about 60 per cent of its subscriber base is now on smartphones, but chief financial officer Bill Linton, who retires Wednesday, said the newest subscribers are less willing to pay monthly fees that exceed $100, opting for cheaper plans.

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chief financial officer Bill Linton, who retires Wednesday, said the newest subscribers are less willing to pay monthly fees that exceed $100, opting for cheaper plans.

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the newest subscribers are less willing to pay monthly fees that exceed $100, opting for cheaper plans.

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subscribers are less willing to pay monthly fees that exceed $100

No loving poo poo!

eXXon
Aug 19, 2002



iLikeMidgets posted:

Speakout is really good if you're not a heavy user. My wife and I are pretty much together 24/7 and her Speakout phone is hardly used. We loaded it up with $25 and haven't had to top it in 6 months.

Just keep in mind there's a $1.25 911 charge per month so if you make a short call once a week or so you might end up paying as much for the 911 fee as your calling. That's still less than half of Rogers' bullshit, oughta-be-illegal GRRF.

eXXon
Aug 19, 2002



EKDS5k posted:

So I called Mobilicity and asked about their $30 thing, as I decided that the extra $3 would be worth having the roaming minutes if nothing else. The rep told me that I could actually keep my half off promotion, and that by switching to the new $45 plan, I would get everything I had already, plus 30 minutes of roaming, for $22.50, which is $5 less per month than what I was paying. gently caress yeah.

Aren't their new promotion plans only for a year though? It's a bit of a gamble to switch if you're on a slightly less attractive lifetime plan.

eXXon
Aug 19, 2002



In case anyone missed it, Mobilicity's back to school plans ($25 unlimited voice+text+data, $35 adds voice+unlimited North American+global text) are back and the Galaxy Nexus is down to $300. The BTS plans are lifetime, not limited to 12 months.

eXXon
Aug 19, 2002



iLikeMidgets posted:

I have a retentions plan with Rogers.I have about 14 months left on a three year contract. I haven't done a hardware upgrade since 2006/07.

Why/how did you get a retentions plan with a 3 year contract without getting a new phone in the first place?

eXXon
Aug 19, 2002



Just buy a phone and try it, you can return them within something like a week if you only use them to test signal strength. Hell, get one from Wind too to compare.

eXXon
Aug 19, 2002



I love how the 3G is 3x faster and better ping than LTE.

eXXon
Aug 19, 2002



teethgrinder posted:

She's switching from Mobilicity which has just been utterly useless. They keep blaming everything but their lovely network for her lack of reception everywhere in downtown Toronto.

I get good reception everywhere in downtown Toronto . Voice quality is a different matter.

eXXon
Aug 19, 2002



Wind mobile is apparently going up for sale soon. This sounds like potentially good news to me, as long as Robellus don't get their dirty hands on it. It seems unlikely that they would, even as toothless as the CRTC is right now. Isn't more spectrum going up for auction soon?

At the worst, it seems likely that Wind iwll be sold to some other foreign backers and nothing will change. There's also a chance that Mobilicity's owners could buy it up. I could see a merger of the two being a good thing - an expanded network and lower costs after redundancies are removed. If the two brands remain separate, there's a chance they could raise prices and stop competing, but that seems unlikely with Robellus' discount brands around. But feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

eXXon
Aug 19, 2002



teethgrinder posted:

Outdoors it's fine, but indoors, where we live, where she works, everywhere we go it's brutal. She's tried it with both a Nokia e73 and Nexus 4.

I can see some people complaining about Nexus 4 reception online, but I can't really judge whether it's the phone's fault. Most people don't seem to have trouble and I haven't really noticed the savvier people on SA complain.

I get some reception indoors and at underground subway stations (in the middle of the Bloor station platform, for example). I probably get worse signal than I used to with Rogers but it still usually works if I'm close to a window.

Otherwise, Mobilicity/Wind only have high frequency parts of the spectrum now, and they're more easily absorbed by anything, so they're going to have worse reception deep inside buildings regardless of what phone you use. More towers can only help so much if there's several metres of concrete between you and the nearest tower, so it's not really an issue with the network as much as MobiWind not having any low frequency parts of the spectrum. Maybe one day they will.

ZShakespeare posted:

I think it's more likely that Rogers, Bell, or Telus rolls in with a dump truck full of burlap sacks with dollar signs on them just so that they can return to regular business and not have to offer discount plans to compete. I'd expect Mobilicity to follow suit too. After Orascom I'd be surprised if any foreign telecom would be crazy enough to invest in this market.

The quotes in the articles I read claimed that Rogers isn't interested. They have dump trucks full of money but they're probably saving some for the next spectrum auction and I hope/pray the CRTC would actually deny their bid to buy Wind if it ever came to that.

eXXon
Aug 19, 2002



Shofixti posted:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...rticle11100134/

Welp. Lots of people predicted this would happen when those 3 companies launched, but I was naively optimistic and hoped that Canada would lose its status as mobile shithole of the world. It was a good run while it lasted.

gently caress this poo poo.

eXXon
Aug 19, 2002



This is the worst. gently caress the useless failures at the CRTC.

eXXon
Aug 19, 2002



CLAM DOWN posted:

The article says it hasn't been approved by the CRTC (or the Competition Bureau, or Industry Canada, or shareholders/debtholders) yet...

Regardless, it means Mobilicity's brass want out. Maybe shareholders don't; we'll see. But I can't see how this could possibly end well. Maybe the CRTC will get up off its rear end and reserve more of the new spectrum for Wind/Mobilicity, but if they don't have the money to pay for it then even that fantasy is a moot point.

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eXXon
Aug 19, 2002



I was saying gently caress the CRTC for letting it get to this point and failing miserably at encouraging competition.

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