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yaoi prophet
Apr 9, 2007

"keep twisting junior all you get is clicks." - Barack HUSSEIN Obama, 2012


I played a game of TDM where half the other team would do some Harlem Globetrotters poo poo with the flag; throw it between people moving at 100+ in midair in opposite directions, drop it and pick it up right when someone on my team was about to grab it, etc. It was great.

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MadHat
Mar 31, 2011


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsWklf4qJeQ

It is beautiful.

Hanks Lust Cafe
Mar 18, 2011



A classic in the similar vein:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5U8h5-V1v4

homerlaw
Sep 21, 2008

Plants are the best ergo Sylvari=Best


How good are infiltrators, I've been enjoying pathfinder to start out with but the infiltrator looks fun, is it worth it?

Quickpull
Mar 1, 2003

We're all mad here.

Ok, from the steam pack I've got the three classes I'm most interested in unlocked: Technician, Raider and Infiltrator. What stock stuff do I need to upgrade right away for these three classes?

Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Secret Quest Is Not Quite How I Remember It


Quickpull posted:

Ok, from the steam pack I've got the three classes I'm most interested in unlocked: Technician, Raider and Infiltrator. What stock stuff do I need to upgrade right away for these three classes?
Technician needs the Mechanic perk like, forever. Infiltrator people love using/hate being murdered by the Jackal (also, Survivalist perk is kind of a big deal). Raider I'm no expert on.

Also, you have to play a class to rank up their equipped items, perks, their "armor". Since it's double experience times, those will go up fast enough.

The Joe Man
Apr 7, 2007

Flirting With Apathetic Waitresses Since 1984

Quickpull posted:

Ok, from the steam pack I've got the three classes I'm most interested in unlocked: Technician, Raider and Infiltrator. What stock stuff do I need to upgrade right away for these three classes?
Tech Thumper is absolutely necessary, but all 3 are huge xp dumps.

Section Z posted:

Technician needs the Mechanic perk like, forever.
This is wrong. Really wrong.

EDIT: Just noticed you've only been playing for like 2 weeks...

The Joe Man fucked around with this message at Jul 4, 2012 around 23:55

Hanks Lust Cafe
Mar 18, 2011



The Joe Man posted:

Tech Thumper is absolutely necessary, but all 3 are huge xp dumps.

I wouldn't say the Thumper is necessary at all, the Tech SMG is one of the best automatic weapons in the game. It's a nice anti-INF solution because you can just spray a bunch of cyber bullets in a room and knock an Infiltrator out of their cloak.

The Joe Man
Apr 7, 2007

Flirting With Apathetic Waitresses Since 1984

Hanks Lust Cafe posted:

I wouldn't say the Thumper is necessary at all, the Tech SMG is one of the best automatic weapons in the game. It's a nice anti-INF solution because you can just spray a bunch of cyber bullets in a room and knock an Infiltrator out of their cloak.

An SMG is somehow better than a 1-2 hit kill explosion weapon with a forgiving AoE...indoors??


What??!!??!?

EDIT: You said, "spray around the room" so I assumed you meant indoors. Like the gen room. The worst room.

For the new player, you job as an (effective) tech is to lay down turrets near the flag or nearby cap routes. Guard the flag stand from a high point with your thumper and keep an eye on base turret and radar health, repairing as necessary. You'll also be primarily responsible for upgrading those base turrets and radar, so do it when you have enough credits because they're pretty much useless until level 3-4. Only go in-base to repair the generator if there is NOTHING else to do.

The Joe Man fucked around with this message at Jul 5, 2012 around 00:16

Hanks Lust Cafe
Mar 18, 2011



The Joe Man posted:

An SMG is somehow better than a 1-2 hit kill explosion weapon with a forgiving AoE...indoors??


What??!!??!?

It's better outside (where you should generally be, even as a Technician) and a passable alternative to the Thumper indoors. Just sayin' that that our new pal doesn't really need to scrounge up 88k XP for it right away.

The Thumper is certainly a lot more fun than the default SMG. Almost any automatic weapon in this game can be filed under "Effective, but joyless."

But yeah, the Mechanic perk isn't really necessary. I usually run the vehicle perks on my Tech (Pilot/Wheel Deal).

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

Rodents of unusual size? I don't think they exist.

I've been playing and enjoying Doombringer a lot. However it gets really trite when I'm trying to defend the flag and some jerk playing another type of class gets in my face and tries to kill me (they can't). I'll just sigh and rev up my chaingun and they'll die.

Like, oh some infiltrator is trying to stab me. Some guy just destroyed my inventory station. Some sniper thinks they can kill me. STOP IT GUYS I'M TRYING TO SHOOT FLAG CAPPERS YOU CAN'T KILL ME SO GO DO SOMETHING ELSE (thanks for the credits so I can constantly rebuild my inventory station I guess)

Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Secret Quest Is Not Quite How I Remember It


Mechanic is a bad secondary for Tech? But, but... Fix things faster Maaaan! Tech are supposed to fix things fast right? Pro-Techs don't spend much time in the generator room right? Mechanic means I spend less time in the generator room when I swing by to fix it occasionally!

I can see the reasoning easy enough though. Granted Survivalist won't feel like as much of a huge gamechanger on a Tech. I mean, what Secondary perk are you using on your Tech instead of Mechanic, and is it making a huge difference in Tech specific play? Though from a "don't throw your experience at Mechanic in the first place" angle, I could see where you are coming from.

As for the Pilot perk, not like that's exactly something specific to Techs, anybody with an income can go Joyriding. Though can see it's appeal over Mechanic, and on a Tech you wouldn't be sacrificing a Must Have, like not using Ego on a Pathfinder, or not using Survivalist on an Infiltrator.

Meldonox
Jan 13, 2006

Hey, are you listening to a word I'm saying?


Bought the starter kit right before it went off sale, been dicking around ever since. Is there any hard and fast rule as to what's good and what's poo poo to blow gold on generally?I figured I'd just grab whatever dailies catch my eye and blow XP willy-nilly until the bonus weekend ends.

On a side note, I unlocked brute for the hell of it and I'm doing surprisingly well for myself doing suicide runs dropping mastered fractals on the enemy flag as they defend it.


vvv That sounds amazing, thanks~

Meldonox fucked around with this message at Jul 5, 2012 around 00:49

Hanks Lust Cafe
Mar 18, 2011



Meldonox posted:

Is there any hard and fast rule as to what's good and what's poo poo to blow gold on generally?.

I'm going to update the second post in this thread with a primer on some of the better unlocks for each class.

Xae
Jan 19, 2005



BattleMaster posted:

I've been playing and enjoying Doombringer a lot. However it gets really trite when I'm trying to defend the flag and some jerk playing another type of class gets in my face and tries to kill me (they can't). I'll just sigh and rev up my chaingun and they'll die.

Like, oh some infiltrator is trying to stab me. Some guy just destroyed my inventory station. Some sniper thinks they can kill me. STOP IT GUYS I'M TRYING TO SHOOT FLAG CAPPERS YOU CAN'T KILL ME SO GO DO SOMETHING ELSE (thanks for the credits so I can constantly rebuild my inventory station I guess)

Works great until the Pathfinders get smart enough to just spinfusor spam the flag from at/beyond draw distance.

The more I play I wish they would just disable Fractals and Plasma weapons until they can sort them out. Fractals are just annoying and Plasma gun/cannon venture way too far into Pay To Win.

Hanks Lust Cafe
Mar 18, 2011



Section Z posted:

Mechanic is a bad secondary for Tech? But, but... Fix things faster Maaaan! Tech are supposed to fix things fast right? Pro-Techs don't spend much time in the generator room right? Mechanic means I spend less time in the generator room when I swing by to fix it occasionally!

I can see the reasoning easy enough though. Granted Survivalist won't feel like as much of a huge gamechanger on a Tech. I mean, what Secondary perk are you using on your Tech instead of Mechanic, and is it making a huge difference in Tech specific play? Though from a "don't throw your experience at Mechanic in the first place" angle, I could see where you are coming from.

Mechanic is certainly a decent Tech perk for that slot, but really only for the Tech. Being that an extra 10 percent repair rate isn't very much time saved at all, Survivalist is a good alternative that happens to be fantastic for the two other classes he mentioned, Inf and Raider. Survivalist is the poo poo!

quote:

As for the Pilot perk, not like that's exactly something specific to Techs, anybody with an income can go Joyriding. Though can see it's appeal over Mechanic, and on a Tech you wouldn't be sacrificing a Must Have, like not using Ego on a Pathfinder, or not using Survivalist on an Infiltrator.

Vehicle perks are great on Tech because you have your very own super-repair tool on hand at all times.

Hanks Lust Cafe fucked around with this message at Jul 5, 2012 around 01:00

fermun
Nov 4, 2009


Tech pilots are a thing because you have a repair tool on hand straight from spawn. On respawn, you can quickly deploy your turret and grab a new shrike, then when it gets damaged and things are calm, you can heal up. I find it's most useful when your team has trouble keeping a generator up, I usually run pathfinder pilot instead as sometimes you'll have your shrike taken out while trying to get the enemy capper, and if that happens, you need thrust and 2 nitrons to stay up with them for the one last shot at making the play. My shrikes die more frequently, but I rarely have a problem getting the kills to afford a new one before my shrike is blown up. The shorter lifespan of my shrikes though means that if the gen gets taken out, I have to switch roles or clear the gen room out just to get a new shrike.

Thor-Stryker
Nov 11, 2005



I've started running Bounty Hunter and Sonic Punch on my sensor-thumper-tech. Spend the first few minutes in the gen room thumping/meleeing anything that comes in (into pits or otherwise.) then upgrade/switch to shrike play.

Bounty Hunter works amazingly well across the board, the down-side is you might want to have better than average skills if you want to be using it in a perk-slot.

Dagam
Sep 7, 2006


Meldonox posted:

Bought the starter kit right before it went off sale, been dicking around ever since. Is there any hard and fast rule as to what's good and what's poo poo to blow gold on generally?I figured I'd just grab whatever dailies catch my eye and blow XP willy-nilly until the bonus weekend ends.

On a side note, I unlocked brute for the hell of it and I'm doing surprisingly well for myself doing suicide runs dropping mastered fractals on the enemy flag as they defend it.


vvv That sounds amazing, thanks~
Definitely get survivalist perk. The steam starter pack comes with a lot of stuff that I took early or currently high on my list. It depends on what role you like. If you like generator wars, get raider and grenade launcher. It takes the idea of fractal spamming to something you control better. A raider with grenade launcher, whiteout grenade, looter/survivalist is a nightmare to dislodge from a base, more so than the brutes. It's underplayed but good. For the stealthy option get jackal for infiltrator. If you like the mortar, try mortar deluxe. The projectile is faster which gives you more range and opens up better mortaring spots. For doombringer HOF definitely get mines.

Hanks Lust Cafe
Mar 18, 2011



I don't like using Bounty Hunter because it makes me feel like my position on the scoreboard is dishonest.

fermun
Nov 4, 2009


Raider with grenade launcher, whiteouts, looter/survivalist is also one of the best to take out turrets, chasers, snipers, and HoFs. You're an all-around offensive player. For your secondary weapon, you've got a choice of 3 different bullet weapons, the highest damage is the NJ5B, but it's difficult to hit with early, the easiest bullet weapon to learn bullet weapons is the desert NJ4, which has the highest rate of fire so gives the most feedback.

Dagam
Sep 7, 2006


Hanks Lust Cafe posted:

I don't like using Bounty Hunter because it makes me feel like my position on the scoreboard is dishonest.

I actually use bounty hunter on every class because I don't need any other perk to get kills as much as the added credits for orbital strikes (and more refund) and more xp at the end.

Dagam
Sep 7, 2006


fermun posted:

Raider with grenade launcher, whiteouts, looter/survivalist is also one of the best to take out turrets, chasers, snipers, and HoFs.
Not really. It's the super gently caress-off option for base raiding--people are helplessly knocked around and blinded until they die. But outside with the grenade launcher it would be mediocre at best.

Hanks Lust Cafe
Mar 18, 2011



homerlaw posted:

How good are infiltrators, I've been enjoying pathfinder to start out with but the infiltrator looks fun, is it worth it?

Totally missed this post. Infiltrators are the most combat-ready of the light classes. They have some really cool weapons (sticky explosives, throwing knives) and the cloak is good for getting into places that the enemy doesn't want you to be. They're pretty much the best at taking out the generator.

Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Secret Quest Is Not Quite How I Remember It


Some of these high rankers are so adorable. There was this one rank 39 Raider (second highest on server, other was a rank 40 on our team). He was doing low low in ins team scores in Capture and Hold mode. I was Pathing it up to rank Thrust pack.

Kine: Oh, the Doombringer is rank 9. Big surprise.
Me: Rank doesn't equal skill man.
Kine: Spoken like a true copper.
Me: I just know when I hit 40, my aim will still be just as bad.

later on,
Me: Kine, How come you're the highest ranked person but you're one of the lowest in score?

No response, but he quit the match a minute later.

As for Bounty Hunter, I figure Bounty hunter is more important than Safty third if you are a kamikaze Brute. That's +300 a kill and another +100 for Belt kills

fermun
Nov 4, 2009


Dagam posted:

Not really. It's the super gently caress-off option for base raiding--people are helplessly knocked around and blinded until they die. But outside with the grenade launcher it would be mediocre at best.

No, grenade launcher is still the best weapon for taking out base assets or dropping on a flag stand and the NJ5B will tear apart any defenders who try to make you stop.

Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Secret Quest Is Not Quite How I Remember It


fermun posted:

No, grenade launcher is still the best weapon for taking out base assets or dropping on a flag stand and the NJ5B will tear apart any defenders who try to make you stop.
I don't even have it yet, and I'll agree the Grenade launcher is better for that sort of thing. Sure, they wont stick to base assets and are less damage per shot, but more shots to spam across the entire flagstand, bouncy explosives that kaboom on contact with the enemy? Yes please I would like something that reminds me of the Quake 2 Grenade Launcher.

Meldonox
Jan 13, 2006

Hey, are you listening to a word I'm saying?


Man, I had my first match in the big leagues and it was a goddamn riot. Folks were getting mad (as well they should) because I was generator camping with a brute, spitting out fractals left and right. To stay loyal to the original Tribes, as I've done in every single match so far, the entire time I spammed shazbot.

This time, so did everyone else.

For something like fifteen minutes hardly a second passed without someone spamming shazbot. Both teams were doing it, seemingly everyone did but two or three people who were getting pissy about it. I died a few times because I was simply laughing too hard at the deluge of shazbot to bother dodging poo poo or getting away from my poorly-aimed fractal.

Video games.

fermun
Nov 4, 2009


Next you have to learn the wonders of fatty VGCA. UH-HUH.

yaoi prophet
Apr 9, 2007

"keep twisting junior all you get is clicks." - Barack HUSSEIN Obama, 2012


It's even called VGS, I think if a minute goes by without someone saying it something's gone horribly wrong.

Rixen
Feb 18, 2005

Have you had your Reich today?

fermun posted:

No, grenade launcher is still the best weapon for taking out base assets or dropping on a flag stand and the NJ5B will tear apart any defenders who try to make you stop.

Wait a second I recognize that name now!

You're that dude who was really amazing with the Shrike! You tricky flying bastard, I hate you.

So I joined your team the following match <3.

MrLonghair
Nov 2, 2004



Section Z posted:

As for Bounty Hunter, I figure Bounty hunter is more important than Safty third if you are a kamikaze Brute. That's +300 a kill and another +100 for Belt kills

poo poo, that's right. Miss out on a single extra fractal in the belt but what does it matter when you'll be rolling in credits. Just bought it on my throwoff account, time to roll out.



e: One round later, I experienced a post-4AM evil cackle. I regret wasting 18k exp on survivalist. Thank you!

e: And every round after that was dying to only bullet weapons. This game is loving dead to a deserving death if they don't lift a finger, what's the use of a non bullet weapon if they're going to cut you down better than anything else? A thumper only makes it a little harder to get cut down by a bullet weapon if you hit the motherfucker, same for plasmas and discs, and that's just indoors.

One round of fun, nine rounds of gently caress this game.

MrLonghair fucked around with this message at Jul 5, 2012 around 03:26

fermun
Nov 4, 2009


Rixen posted:

Wait a second I recognize that name now!

You're that dude who was really amazing with the Shrike! You tricky flying bastard, I hate you.

So I joined your team the following match <3.

US West servers, Sunstar? I think you were a bronze rank soldier? I do shrike a lot though, I think it's the most fun thing in the game. Then when I do get blown up I hop out to shoot bolts at the rude jerk who hurt my lovely shrike.

Tryke
Jun 26, 2008


I didn't realize this game was out of beta until the Steam sale hit. What are my chances of playing with goons? This game could benefit from some party matchmaking.

Name in-game is Tryke, same as my forum handle.

Luminous Cow
Nov 2, 2007

Well you know there should be no law
on people that want to smoke a little dope.
Well you know it's good for your head
And it relax your body don't you know.



I am absolutely terrible at this game, but making that one perfect shot per round makes it all worth it. My best so far was shooting the Juggernaut's mortar at random and accidentally nailing an incoming shrike. I also just unlocked the Brute. Is the second fractal grenade worth it? Because I spent gold on it right out of the gate.

Hanks Lust Cafe
Mar 18, 2011



Luminous Cow posted:

I am absolutely terrible at this game, but making that one perfect shot per round makes it all worth it. My best so far was shooting the Juggernaut's mortar at random and accidentally nailing an incoming shrike. I also just unlocked the Brute. Is the second fractal grenade worth it? Because I spent gold on it right out of the gate.

Yeah, totally. The added duration is definitely worth the lower damage, because the whole point of the grenade is area denial.

Tryke posted:

I didn't realize this game was out of beta until the Steam sale hit. What are my chances of playing with goons? This game could benefit from some party matchmaking.


Unfortunately, all we've got is a barebones friend system and a password-protected custom server (which I wouldn't recommend for new players and doesn't get too many visitors, looking for a way to fix this). I'm working on a spreadsheet where active goons can post their handles and server regions.

Hanks Lust Cafe fucked around with this message at Jul 5, 2012 around 03:24

Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Secret Quest Is Not Quite How I Remember It


MrLonghair posted:

poo poo, that's right. Miss out on a single extra fractal in the belt but what does it matter when you'll be rolling in credits. Just bought it on my throwoff account, time to roll out.

Snip

e: One round later, I experienced a post-4AM evil cackle. I regret wasting 18k exp on survivalist. Thank you!
Survivalist is a Secondary, you can use Bounty Hunter and Survivalist at the same time It's Looter that's a Primary for whatever the hell reason.

sitchelin
Aug 15, 2007
JOCKEY OWNS

Stichelin it is, thank you!


Section Z posted:

Some of these high rankers are so adorable. There was this one rank 39 Raider (second highest on server, other was a rank 40 on our team). He was doing low low in ins team scores in Capture and Hold mode. I was Pathing it up to rank Thrust pack.

Kine: Oh, the Doombringer is rank 9. Big surprise.
Me: Rank doesn't equal skill man.
Kine: Spoken like a true copper.
Me: I just know when I hit 40, my aim will still be just as bad.

later on,
Me: Kine, How come you're the highest ranked person but you're one of the lowest in score?

No response, but he quit the match a minute later.

As for Bounty Hunter, I figure Bounty hunter is more important than Safty third if you are a kamikaze Brute. That's +300 a kill and another +100 for Belt kills

You need to be on my friend list. What's your name?

Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Secret Quest Is Not Quite How I Remember It


sitchelin posted:

You need to be on my friend list. What's your name?
I go by LaserAddict In Tribes land. Though to be clear, I wasn't the Doombringer he was talking about, I was just a merely like, lv 13 or so Pathfinder (surprisingly, to me anyways, getting top or near top scores on my team) commenting on these fun times vv

I can't ski over 150 on purpose or cap worth a drat, but I can float and shoot light discs down on people like a boss. That and go "Wabbit Season" Every time I get a shotgun kill.

The best part is when someone argues "Duck Season!"

Section Z fucked around with this message at Jul 5, 2012 around 04:12

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Kaal
May 22, 2002

In addition, a massively uptight cunt.

So it's still a mystery to me why Bella Omega got completely pulled from the server rotation. I wish one of the iterations was still around, it was a fun map.

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