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Call Me Abey
Feb 14, 2002
What in the hell is wrong with your ability to live your a basic life?

Camp Something Awful,

One of our more renowned forums administrators was contacted recently by Slate cartoonist, multiple blogger, intense chocoholic, daydreamer, reluctant runner, birdwatcher Donna Barstow, in regards to her works being posted on Something Awful.



https://twitter.com/cartooness/stat...912671833751553

Apparently, some of you scumbags haven't been respecting the "copyright" of her "work", especially after she "lost" her "job" making "political cartoons". Since apparently she's under the impression that her scribblings are a moneymaker for some reason, and management wishes the forum not to be a hateful, racist, stealing, illegal site, our attorney Leonard J. Crabs has advised us to implement a new rule.

From henceforth, it's no longer OK to post her stuff unless it's in Fair Use. Specifically, if you are critical of her artwork, listed from the sites below or any of her works, you have to add at least 30 words of criticism.

http://opedcartoons.com/
http://thecartoons.net/
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/ink-blots-cartoons

Again, respect Fair Use explicitly for Donna Barstow's work. If you aren't sure your post meets the "Fair Use" requirement, I urge you to contact Donna directly:

https://twitter.com/cartooness/

I thank all of you for your time.

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Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

WHY AM I YELLING? I AM VERY CONFUSED RIGHT NOW! I SEEM TO HAVE MISPLACED MY KEYS.


Hell if her job was drawing political cartoons, I could see why she got fired.

@fart.

Call Me Abey
Feb 14, 2002
What in the hell is wrong with your ability to live your a basic life?

Please do not Fartshame in this thread. While I have yet to codify a rule against Fartshaming, this is not the time or the place for that discussion.

HClChicken
Aug 15, 2005

Highly trained by the US military at expedient semen processing.


Can I include 30 words about a parody of her work in the same post?

Call Me Abey
Feb 14, 2002
What in the hell is wrong with your ability to live your a basic life?

HClChicken posted:

Can I include 30 words about a parody of her work in the same post?

Absolutely. That's Fair Use, and that's the law. Respect the Law.

Volcott
Mar 30, 2010


BLEEP BLOP BLORP GAY MARRIAGE

A Good Cartoon.

change my name
Aug 27, 2007

My anime is augmented.


Just a reminder of what a talented little artist she is

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...oons-is-no-joke

quote:

She began her career by sending in a batch of what are called "gags" (captions, really) to three male cartoonists who had been published regularly in The New Yorker. They responded that they didn't buy gags, and she realized she would have to learn to draw her own illustrations.

"It wasn't easy to learn," she said. "Say I wanted to include a chicken in a cartoon. I didn't know what one actually looked like. Where do you put the feathers? How do the feet go?"

Saint Sputnik
Mar 31, 2007

yeah swing low, sweet
jewel-encrusted chariot
make me young again
make me well

I'm touched that she remembered us, since nothing came of her first threat.

Call Me Abey
Feb 14, 2002
What in the hell is wrong with your ability to live your a basic life?

Saint Sputnik posted:

I'm touched that she remembered us, since nothing came of her first threat.

What was her first threat?

Toffile
Sep 10, 2008

   'Cause she's so high
      High above me,
       she's so lovely

                - Everclear

Is this an excellent example of posting content by Donna Barstow under fair-use?

Abeya Minora posted:

What was her first threat?

http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...=675&perpage=40

betaraywil
Dec 30, 2006

Gather the wind
Though the wind won't help you fly at all



This cartoon is so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so very dumb.

Meursault Horny
Sep 9, 2003



Can we use this thread to brainstorm some ways to make Something Awful even more hateful, vile, stealing, and illegal?

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

What?




This comic appears to imply that the Rapture will consist of everyone on a freeway in the middle of a deserted wasteland having rockets strapped to their bottom of their cars and blasting off into the sky in trajectories and perspective that would make both rocket scientists and artists go into seizures. SAID COMIC WAS MADE BY DONNA BARSTOW AND IS BEING USED UNDER FAIR USE REGULATIONS

She also thinks Ted Rall is noteworthy enough to link to, which explains pretty much everything about this woman.

Saint Sputnik
Mar 31, 2007

yeah swing low, sweet
jewel-encrusted chariot
make me young again
make me well

Keep me updated on her tweets, she has me blocked. She blocked excellent alt cartoonist Matt Bors too, because he criticized a cartoon of Obama with Chia Pet hair.

change my name
Aug 27, 2007

My anime is augmented.




I for one am certainly glad that she's been able to so perfectly capture the cultural zeitgeist that defined early 2007, creating work that has endeared to the masses for years to come. For without terrible cartoons to come before them, how would competent cartoonists flourish and learn? In doing a disservice to the craft, Ms. Barstow has, pardon the pun, raised the bar for her successors.

Iluvlortab
Jul 19, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post


A "cartoon" from DonnaBarstow@fart...from Psychology Today


This drawing is to political cartooning as much as my dog's dump is to urban art. It was even placed in a "stellar" magazine known for it's peer reviewed (hahahahahaha) and accurate information. It makes no sense and the shading is crap. I mean all this in a satirical fashion of course. Fart.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008




Coming from someone who's twitter handle is "@cartoness", I'm not surprised that she interprets the notion that womyn who are mothers and who might be into nerdy mass produced culture, aside from other mass produced culture such as written books and political cartons, are nothing more than the selfish children's wishes to see a movie. Way to reinforce culturally enforced gender roles.

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

What?


My mom really enjoyed both District 13 and Inglorious Basterds and ever since then I've learned not to assume she'll dislike a movie.

Posted on her Twitter feed:

quote:

Jack ‏@fnool
@cartooness That site really is "something awful" ! God bless

1stGear fucked around with this message at Jul 3, 2012 around 01:49

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008




Here's my review, all 30 words about Donna Barstow:

Bigoted racist, bigoted racist, bigoted racist, bigoted racist, bigoted racist, bigoted racist, bigoted racist, bigoted racist, bigoted racist, bigoted racist, bigoted racist, bigoted racist, bigoted racist, bigoted racist, bigoted racist.

Vertigus
Jan 8, 2011



God Bless These United States for allowing me to experience the joy of a self-styled media maven from a popular magazine harshly rebuking Twitter user "@fart".

Toriori
Jan 4, 2012

No Yanda's allowed

Haha, someone remind this lady it's called "something awful", not "something nice". *puts on sunglasses*

Toffile
Sep 10, 2008

   'Cause she's so high
      High above me,
       she's so lovely

                - Everclear

Original: http://opedcartoons.com/2010/09/15/...s-a-no-brainer/

"Building a mosque near Ground Zero? It’s a NO-brainer."



Apparently the ability to build a mosque in the remains of a decrepit Burlington Coat Factory means that the President of the United States of America is an idiot. Notice the flowing connection between the two over the 3 watermarks, which form a rough triangular pattern. This indicates the growing disconnect of the 3 branches of federal government, as the Executive branch continues to gain more power and swing away from the Legislative branch, only being held in place by the SCOTUS.

Also it looks like a majority of her cartoons are no longer online, after her syndicate dumped her in favor of a Pulitzer prize winning liberal male cartoonist.

illiniguy01
Feb 19, 2011

Sweat, Ubu. Sweat. Good paranoid schizophrenic.


Hi, I don't know what chickens look like. I hope to one day overcome this to be able to get fired at my own big time hot shot job.

Chunderstorm
May 9, 2010



Calling it now that she claims she got a huge response from Something Awful and that even though we thoroughly torched her she proved that we were bashful and hateful and etc. and thus she wins.

Can't wait to see how this unfolds.



THE AUDACITY.

dee eight
Dec 18, 2002

MONTANA
CATDRUG
CARTEL

I'm pretty sure I've seen Donna Barstow cartoons before. Not worth thirty words.

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

WHY AM I YELLING? I AM VERY CONFUSED RIGHT NOW! I SEEM TO HAVE MISPLACED MY KEYS.


Iluvlortab posted:

A "cartoon" from DonnaBarstow@fart...from Psychology Today


This drawing is to political cartooning as much as my dog's dump is to urban art. It was even placed in a "stellar" magazine known for it's peer reviewed (hahahahahaha) and accurate information. It makes no sense and the shading is crap. I mean all this in a satirical fashion of course. Fart.

I feel the need to point out that the following was captioned underneath this cartoon:

"couple on date at the movies where guy thinks she wants commitment, but she wants butter on her popcorn"

I would never have guessed if she didn't specify what was going on.

Women just want butter on their popcorn. That's misogyny.

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008


Toffile posted:

Original: http://opedcartoons.com/2010/09/15/...s-a-no-brainer/

"Building a mosque near Ground Zero? It’s a NO-brainer."



Apparently the ability to build a mosque in the remains of a decrepit Burlington Coat Factory means that the President of the United States of America is an idiot. Notice the flowing connection between the two over the 3 watermarks, which form a rough triangular pattern. This indicates the growing disconnect of the 3 branches of federal government, as the Executive branch continues to gain more power and swing away from the Legislative branch, only being held in place by the SCOTUS.

Also it looks like a majority of her cartoons are no longer online, after her syndicate dumped her in favor of a Pulitzer prize winning liberal male cartoonist.

Oh boy, look at the quote in her comments section.

Donna Barstow posted:

The question, Chris, is why they want to build right there? Have you ever heard of a church wanting to build so badly in one spot? It’s a total lack of common sense and sensitivity.

The nature of limited property space in the City of New York, Manhattan especially, factors one decision to continue building a lot Donna. When one sees a viable location to open a center that will cater to thousands of people, with and without faith, one usually would like to open it where it will work.

Wanup Vodka
Sep 24, 2011

Fermented grass mixed in a bathtub with turpentine, bleach, and methamphetamine.



I honestly don't get what the joke is supposed to be here. She collects salt and pepper shakers. Ha ha? Like, why is this a humorous concept? It's slightly bizarre, sure, but, like, why is it deemed "funny" enough to write/"draw" a comic about it? So like, she's a wife and a mother and a business woman that likes to collect salt and pepper shakers. Is the joke that she's useless in all other aspects? Or is the joke literally "look at all these shakers?" Speaking of which, none of the "shakers" look like salt shakers. They just look like amorphous blobs, just sorta floating over what is supposed to be her desk. Her face doesn't really look like it exists, in fact, when I first saw this drawing, I thought the woman depicted was a bird standing on some sort of hat rack. Finally, I don't know what the gently caress windows look like in whatever world Donna inhabits, but the windows on those buildings sure don't look like any in mine. I would forgive the fact nothing looks the way it should if it were artistically valid, or stylized, or, appealing in pretty much any way, but this just look like someone who can't loving draw.

Why does this person have a job while so many Americans are out of work? Why is she allowed to draw a stupid piece of unfunny poo poo in MSPaint, call it a day, and go birdwatching or running (reluctantly) while most of us are having our houses foreclosed on? This drawing makes me angry for reasons I cannot comprehend.

Unguided
Nov 18, 2009

I like to use the word games in every sentence. Sometimes it doesn't work out so well though games.
- GamesMasterJasper

LP97S posted:



Here's my review, all 30 words about Donna Barstow:

Bigoted racist, bigoted racist, bigoted racist, bigoted racist, bigoted racist, bigoted racist, bigoted racist, bigoted racist, bigoted racist, bigoted racist, bigoted racist, bigoted racist, bigoted racist, bigoted racist, bigoted racist.

That drawing makes Mexico look like it's laid back and chilling in the ocean on an invisible reclining deck chair, the Baja peninsula as an arm. It's all ready for summer, even got a little drink.

Smithersnz
May 10, 2005

We freaked out yesterday. Let's just freak in tonight


change my name posted:



I for one am certainly glad that she's been able to so perfectly capture the cultural zeitgeist that defined early 2007, creating work that has endeared to the masses for years to come. For without terrible cartoons to come before them, how would competent cartoonists flourish and learn? In doing a disservice to the craft, Ms. Barstow has, pardon the pun, raised the bar for her successors.

Legs are overrated. I'm counting the quote as 30 words.

Jeff Wiiver
Jul 13, 2007

So I parallel double park that mutha fucka sideways
Old folks talkin bout "Back in my day..."
But homie this is my day


I was going to make fun of this lady but I just can't bring myself to do it. Granted, her "cartoons" are god awful, she obviously has zero artistic ability, but then this line from a blog about Gabrielle Giffords just made feel bad for her: "They were really just newlyweds, married barely 4 years. There’s a great picture of them that looks like how I would like to look at my husband if I got married."

Vargo
Dec 27, 2008

like a record baby

I'm the @SchneidRemarks that she said had a nose which was growing.

I showed her screenshots from the Political Cartoon Thread and told her I would countersue her in Crazyland.

In all seriousness, as one of Something Awful's movie guys, I get genuinely upset anytime someone accuses this site of any kind of piracy. It's genuinely offensive and I don't want it to reflect on any of the writers on this site.

Evaluation Unit
Apr 7, 2004
I SURE HOPE THIS GRUESOME TERRORIST ATTACK DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH COMIC-CON


After having spent nearly $100k on an art education in the illustration field and being told how great it would be to have your stuff published in The New York Times, it's people like this...

At least I know what a chicken looks like.

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

WHY AM I YELLING? I AM VERY CONFUSED RIGHT NOW! I SEEM TO HAVE MISPLACED MY KEYS.


Well if anything I've been inspired to become a political cartoonist because the bar is apparently set this low.

ChuckMaster
Jul 13, 2006

Evil baby bunnies cannot be fed solid food until after the first week.

change my name posted:



I for one am certainly glad that she's been able to so perfectly capture the cultural zeitgeist that defined early 2007, creating work that has endeared to the masses for years to come. For without terrible cartoons to come before them, how would competent cartoonists flourish and learn? In doing a disservice to the craft, Ms. Barstow has, pardon the pun, raised the bar for her successors.

Why is the chair floating out in space? God, perspective lines!

Iluvlortab
Jul 19, 2008

by Y Kant Ozma Post


ChuckMaster posted:

Why is the chair floating out in space? God, perspective lines!

Perspective is for plebeian hacks. The table only stays up on two front legs. The whole cartoon is an amazing display of "couldn't-give-a-poo poo-itis. She's truly a paragon to be emulated. It's probably why she "lost" her "job."

Volume
May 2, 2008

My gimmick is stale and I should get a new one, but I have less imagination than a small cartoon boy.




Look at that head. Look at it! It's like a bag of marbles. Who's head is shaped like that? What sort of head did Donna reference when she drew that? How-


PT6A
Jan 5, 2006
GET FUCKED


Volume posted:



Look at that head. Look at it! It's like a bag of marbles. Who's head is shaped like that? What sort of head did Donna reference when she drew that? How-




Beyond that, what in the name of gently caress is the point of this cartoon? The woman is upset because she's in love with a bisexual person? I've never seen a Far Side that confused me after thinking about it, but this... what the gently caress is going on? What motivated a person to make this? What is its point?

Wanup Vodka
Sep 24, 2011

Fermented grass mixed in a bathtub with turpentine, bleach, and methamphetamine.



Well maybe the tax payers should show up to a goddamned meeting once in a while and then they wouldn't be in this mess! If you don't show up why do you expect your opinion to matter?


EDIT: Just realized this wasn't from her, she just posted it up on her blog. It's still stupid.

Wanup Vodka fucked around with this message at Jul 3, 2012 around 02:43

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Click Beelay
Oct 13, 2011



gently caress this old bag for using "- NOT!" in anything since 1990.

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