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Mr. Trampoline posted:It's east of the entrance to the boss room. In the middle of some spikes on the floor is the door to the shop. Sweet, thanks. I could have sworn I checked that shop before.
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One complaint of mine would be that most of the time I have no idea what I accomplished / how I made something happen. At times some doors that were previously closed are now open, or I hear the jingle-jangle noise when I do something correctly but have absolutely zero idea what that accomplished, if anything at all. The game could be a little clearer on that. More specifically, I have no idea how I opened the trapdoor leading to the chest with the bronze mirror near the entrance to the dark area. It was closed, I wandered around and happened to come back to it and it was open this time. :???: I also solved a couple of puzzles in the dark area after that and got the 'puzzle complete' noise, but nothing seems to have happened anywhere.
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Jul 14, 2012 22:24
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I'm going to give up on trying to beat the minecart boss for now, because he's kicking my rear end and I can't have the patience to kill him. How many drat shurikens does it TAKE? That and playing with keyboard is awkward and I need to use my controller. I might try to go back and see if I can find any life jewels. Zeether fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Jul 14, 2012 |
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Jul 14, 2012 22:33
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Zeether posted:How in the living gently caress do I beat the minecart boss in the Temple of the Sun? He takes way too many loving shurikens and I can't get up close because he'll hurt me too much. I just did that by knifing Ellmac in the face when on the high parts, mostly. I tossed some shurikens, too, once I got low on health. It shouldn't take that much, he's not very sturdy for a giant lizard. If you're having trouble, explore for health upgrades + ammo + other sub weapons (flares would probably work) and come back later.
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Jul 14, 2012 22:43
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Xerophyte posted:I just did that by knifing Ellmac in the face when on the high parts, mostly. I tossed some shurikens, too, once I got low on health. It shouldn't take that much, he's not very sturdy for a giant lizard. If you're having trouble, explore for health upgrades + ammo + other sub weapons (flares would probably work) and come back later.
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Jul 14, 2012 22:48
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poo poo, I just stood on that little scale in the Giants' Mausoleum and this time it displayed my weight in the La-Mulana script only once before deactivating permanently. I really hope they didn't change up that puzzle with the weights such that I just hosed myself over in a way that wasn't even possible originally.
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Jul 14, 2012 22:54
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In the inferno caves, can anyone tell me what you're supposed to do with the lamia statue near the entrance? I'm also somewhat lost as to where to go next after beating the first three bosses.
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Jul 14, 2012 22:58
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I just got the bronze mirror, and it's opened up some gates but I still can't actually enter them, is there something I'm missing? E: Nevermind, figured it out I think the boss has to be dead?
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Jul 14, 2012 22:58
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Also my mom only lets me spend five bucks a month to get my cool gaga avatars back so I guess I'm stuck with this one for a while.
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MonkeyforaHead posted:poo poo, I just stood on that little scale in the Giants' Mausoleum and this time it displayed my weight in the La-Mulana script only once before deactivating permanently. I really hope they didn't change up that puzzle with the weights such that I just hosed myself over in a way that wasn't even possible originally. Just warp back to the tablet, it resets itself.
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Jul 14, 2012 23:13
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Fliptwist posted:In the inferno caves, can anyone tell me what you're supposed to do with the lamia statue near the entrance? Go back to Guide Gate, in the upper right, there is an exit to the Sky Spring, that should be your next target. Oh. and you will need a helmet from the twin labyrinth first if you haven't already gotten it, look for a shop inside
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Jul 14, 2012 23:14
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So apparently they must have changed this from the original, in the guidance gate I can't figure out how to get the first Ankh stone thing to fight the first boss, I just get lightninged no matter which of the 4 tablets i attack.
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Jul 14, 2012 23:24
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goldjas posted:So apparently they must have changed this from the original, in the guidance gate I can't figure out how to get the first Ankh stone thing to fight the first boss, I just get lightninged no matter which of the 4 tablets i attack. It's not really changed, there's one at first that wont get you struck by lightning. What hung me up was that I was trying to hit each one once, when you have to hit them multiple times
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Jul 14, 2012 23:26
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goldjas posted:So apparently they must have changed this from the original, in the guidance gate I can't figure out how to get the first Ankh stone thing to fight the first boss, I just get lightninged no matter which of the 4 tablets i attack. There is a clue in about the same area, I wasn't aware that it was flagged as "protected" until after you read the clue though. I think the tablets are broken in the same order even as they were in the original, even if their features are different. Remember that you have to actually break them before moving to the next in the sequence. goldjas posted:drat it all that was it. I don't remember for the life of me if that was the same in the original or not. it was. Underwhelmed fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Jul 14, 2012 |
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Jul 14, 2012 23:27
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:It's not really changed, there's one at first that wont get you struck by lightning. What hung me up was that I was trying to hit each one once, when you have to hit them multiple times drat it all that was it. I don't remember for the life of me if that was the same in the original or not.
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Jul 14, 2012 23:28
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Bahamut is a big dumb jerk. "oh look at me I'm going to hide in the background and attack you over and over" I wouldn't even have as much of a problem with his high damage if I could just hit him more often! 
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Jul 14, 2012 23:33
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Underwhelmed posted:There is a clue in about the same area, I wasn't aware that it was flagged as "protected" until after you read the clue though. What the gently caress? I had read that clue about 10 times and still got lightninged every time, I thought I had done something wrong and scoured the rest of the Gate for ages for a solution that doesn't exist. Now I read the clue once again and recorded it, and now it worked. What a terrible puzzle.
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Jul 14, 2012 23:38
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Dropbear posted:What the gently caress? I had read that clue about 10 times and still got lightninged every time, I thought I had done something wrong and scoured the rest of the Gate for ages for a solution that doesn't exist. Now I read the clue once again and recorded it, and now it worked. What a terrible puzzle. You don't have to save the clue or anything. It works fine from the start, but if you bone it up you have to leave the area to reset it.
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tooooooo bad posted:You don't have to save the clue or anything. It works fine from the start, but if you bone it up you have to leave the area to reset it. Then it must have bugged out somehow, since I'm 100% sure I've read the clue and started with the block the clue says you should, multiple times. Always got zapped. Huh.
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Jul 14, 2012 23:52
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Well now that's a new one. I wound up with a fairy who throws rolling shurikens while in the Temple of the Moon, and it proceeded to chuck one into a piece of wall with divine protection, getting me struck dead by lightning. 
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Jul 14, 2012 23:57
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If I wandered into the Temple of the Sun and saved with 3 hp and only the Hand Scanner should I just start over because cripes this seems completely hopeless.
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Jul 15, 2012 00:01
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Realtime impression of Baphomet fight: "Oh hey, it's just like last time, but this time I can just jump and spam whip on it over and over." "Attacks don't seem terribly difficult to dodge, I'll just keep hitting her while she's open. This is actually a lot easier than the origin--" "Wait, why is it standing up? Why is its trident spinning? Where did it go?!" "  "" "*dies horribly*
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Phoix posted:If I wandered into the Temple of the Sun and saved with 3 hp and only the Hand Scanner should I just start over because cripes this seems completely hopeless. They give you a lot of save slots for a reason 
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Phoix posted:If I wandered into the Temple of the Sun and saved with 3 hp and only the Hand Scanner should I just start over because cripes this seems completely hopeless. Yeouch, yeah, that sounds bad. It might be possible to get back without being hit... but it doesn't seem terribly likely. General hint for your next playthrough, don't leave the Guidance Gate until you find the Holy Grail, and buy the Glyph Reader as soon as you can.
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OK, I'm having a pretty serious recurring problem. When I install the game, everything works fine and dandy. I can save, no problems. However, after I close the game, even once, afterwards the game will never work properly again until I reinstall it. When I try to save it will show a blank box where 'saving' should be for a good 10-15 seconds, and then say 'saved', without actually saving the game. Then, if I close the game a second time, the window closes, but the music continues to play and the process won't ever close unless I force it to via ctrl-alt-delete. I've already redownloaded and reinstalled it, but it still happened a second time. Does anyone have any idea how to fix this?
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As much as I'm loving this game, the random failure of the save monuments is hugely frustrating. I've tried redownloading and reinstalling multiple times, and while it sometimes works (well enough that I've made it a decent distance into the game - up to getting the Bronze Mirror and poking around the Temple of Moonlight proper), it will sometimes crash on the Save screen with a little empty box in the middle of my screen. If I swap out to a different program and in again, it says it's saved, but it hasn't (not realizing this cost me a few hours of progress on the first day I played). Any advice? It seems to work fine for the duration of a single session, and then after I've quit and started the game up again later, it fails. e: Guess I'm not the only one with this problem.
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Wolpertinger posted:OK, I'm having a pretty serious recurring problem. When I install the game, everything works fine and dandy. I can save, no problems. However, after I close the game, even once, afterwards the game will never work properly again until I reinstall it. When I try to save it will show a blank box where 'saving' should be for a good 10-15 seconds, and then say 'saved', without actually saving the game. Then, if I close the game a second time, the window closes, but the music continues to play and the process won't ever close unless I force it to via ctrl-alt-delete. I've already redownloaded and reinstalled it, but it still happened a second time. Does anyone have any idea how to fix this? Run as administrator.
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Evil Eagle posted:Run as administrator. I kept getting a black screen when I first installed and admin was a work around. However if you are uncomfortable with running apps as administrator or don't want to keep confirming the uac prompt then move the game directory into your user directory.
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I just got to the Tower of Ruin. Literally the second screen in, I get crushed to death instantly by a brand new ceiling-mounted compress with no warning whatsoever. 
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So I got to Spring in the Sky and I think I did everything I could, I got the Scalesphere and the ankh jewel there. I found a miniboss, but he's loving crushing me. IIRC, this is the guy who guards the conception seal, right? What's the trick to him? His bouncing eye lasers are really hard to dodge and the only way I can hit him is by whipping him in the eye, but I can't not get hit when doing so. Am I missing something from somewhere else?
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:So I got to Spring in the Sky and I think I did everything I could, I got the Scalesphere and the ankh jewel there. I found a miniboss, but he's loving crushing me. IIRC, this is the guy who guards the conception seal, right? What's the trick to him? His bouncing eye lasers are really hard to dodge and the only way I can hit him is by whipping him in the eye, but I can't not get hit when doing so. Am I missing something from somewhere else? ...Wait, How did you get the scalesphere without first getting the Conception Seal?
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:So I got to Spring in the Sky and I think I did everything I could, I got the Scalesphere and the ankh jewel there. I found a miniboss, but he's loving crushing me. IIRC, this is the guy who guards the conception seal, right? What's the trick to him? His bouncing eye lasers are really hard to dodge and the only way I can hit him is by whipping him in the eye, but I can't not get hit when doing so. Am I missing something from somewhere else? His claws don't have a hitbox. My strategy was to whip him a couple times, hop under the platform and start swimming beneath him as he fires the laser, then come up on the other side and whip him a couple more times. Repeat. There's a very specific rhythm between his shots you have to exploit for that to work. If you slip out of it, the best place to restart it is from straight beneath him in the water. Super Jay Mann posted:...Wait, How did you get the scalesphere without first getting the Conception Seal? It's just in a regular old treasure chest at the top of the lift just outside his room, locked by a regular weight pedestal I think?
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:So I got to Spring in the Sky and I think I did everything I could, I got the Scalesphere and the ankh jewel there. I found a miniboss, but he's loving crushing me. IIRC, this is the guy who guards the conception seal, right? What's the trick to him? His bouncing eye lasers are really hard to dodge and the only way I can hit him is by whipping him in the eye, but I can't not get hit when doing so. Am I missing something from somewhere else? I kamikaze'd his head with the knife.
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MonkeyforaHead posted:His claws don't have a hitbox. My strategy was to whip him a couple times, hop under the platform and start swimming beneath him as he fires the laser, then come up on the other side and whip him a couple more times. Repeat. My strategy was even simpler, get just out of range of his claws and time your jump+attack so that he fires his laser when you were smacking him in the face, then just watch as it sails harmlessly around you. You don't even have to move unless the laser bounces back to where you are, but you can just jump to avoid that too. Easiest fight in the game by far.
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Has anyone had any luck getting this working under wine? I've installed DirectX 9 and everything runs fine right up to the point where I hit the menu screen, at which point it becomes clear I have no keyboard or mouse input. (I can't skip the intro cutscene either.) Failing any wine-specific advice, could someone tell me whether I'm meant to be able to use the mouse, the keyboard or both in the opening menu? It would at least narrow the problem down.
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Oh holy wow did they make the 2nd boss way harder. Was not expecting that. Edit: Was there anything more in the Mausoleum besides the second boss, ground shurikens, and hermes boots? I've looked everywhere and that's all I've found, but seems sort of scarce. goldjas fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Jul 15, 2012 |
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MonkeyforaHead posted:His claws don't have a hitbox. My strategy was to whip him a couple times, hop under the platform and start swimming beneath him as he fires the laser, then come up on the other side and whip him a couple more times. Repeat. Thanks, this is what I ended up doing. I don't think I was timing my hits right before as I wasn't aware that you could just jump straight up and hit him.
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pumpinglemma posted:Has anyone had any luck getting this working under wine? I've installed DirectX 9 and everything runs fine right up to the point where I hit the menu screen, at which point it becomes clear I have no keyboard or mouse input. (I can't skip the intro cutscene either.) I'm having the same problem and haven't found a solution yet. I'd really like to play this game 
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I guess I was just lucky, because I honestly thought they made Bahamut much easier than the original. Only died to him three times before I killed him. Maybe it's because he didn't do that background fireball attack much for me?
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I know almost everyone disagrees, but I don't like how completely arbitrary some of the changes are. The most egregious example that comes to mind is the Bronze Mirror. In the original game that item had its own special room dedicated to it and it was practically unmissable. After all, it was a vital, special item which opens up the latter 60% of the game. Now? It's just shoved in some random chest with no fanfare at all, which has a pretty unintuitive solution to open it. Why? Why the heck would you make that change? How does it even remotely improve the gameplay? I don't like how a few items have been just shoved into shops now either, it really removes a lot of the sense of accomplishment you get from progressing in the game. So meh, I'm not overly impressed. MCXD fucked around with this message at 02:00 on Jul 15, 2012 |
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MCXD posted:So meh, I'm not overly impressed. They wanted to remake the game so that veteran players wouldn't have exactly the same experience again. If you want to play the exact same freeware game that you played seven years ago, why would you even buy the remake?
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