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100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


Remember everybody: HELL TEMPLE IS HELL

I'm pretty excited for this remake, and I will probably buy it, wander around aimlessly for a couple hours and then give up in frustration, JUST LIKE LAST TIME.

Still, looking forward to it.

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100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


Ledgem posted:

Well I've been trying to get into the hell temple.
This is your problem here. Don't go in hell temple.

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


Where the hell is the grail point in the Inferno Caverns? I can't find it anywhere.

If I have to get to the entrance manually again I'm gonna freak out.

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


I loving hate the Inferno Cavern. I can't get anywhere without killing all my HP.

I'm never gonna get the chain whip if I can't get to the subboss with more then like 20 health.

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


I just got it. Subboss before the chain whip room is still kicking my rear end though.

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


Nalk posted:

Here you go.

Just put the unzipped "01" folder in the /data/music/ directory. You should then have a new option in the menu under music.

I can't promise everything is perfect however, I threw this together quickly.
Add this to the OP please.

How do I get into the room with the flares. I can see where it should be on the map, and another hint in the Inferno Caverns, but there doesn't seem to be any way to get through that wall.

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


Zeether posted:

How do I get the Guidance Gate boss to show up? I opened his room but the ankh is not there.
In the room with the extremely obvious trap, one of the skeletons has a hint. Think about what it says and look at all the rooms on that level carefully.

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


Control Volume posted:

Oh man. Oh MAN. There's a software combination out there that boosts non-whip weapons and it absolutely trashes bosses like no other when you use the axe, and it's available as soon as you have access to fairies. I wish I had it before I had taken down 5 bosses, but whatever. Read on, interested parties!

You'll need two pieces of software, one of which costs 300 coins. One is in a tent hidden by a breakable wall on the left side of that waterfall area on the surface, called mekuri.exe. The other requires a key fairy in the Spring in the Sky. Once you get that fairy, go up a screen and it'll hover over the shop and make it explode. Then you go inside and buy randc.exe. Combine the two and murder everything with your non-whip weapon of choice. For those having trouble getting the fairy to spawn, the pattern is 4 stars going in a diamond pattern. If you don't get that pattern, quickly leave the screen before the fairy appears, which resets it.
How do I get to the first one after finding it? I can't jump off the ladder.

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


Underwhelmed posted:

What did you do to it? If you stepped on the crumbly one before dropping the larger one onto it, then the answer is "yes"


By jumping from above, we are talking about the spring in the sky shop right?
No, the other one.

Oh, I need double jump I think.

100 HOGS AGREE fucked around with this message at Jul 18, 2012 around 14:54

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


I got in there, then got the Axe and with that combo killed the poo poo out of Ellmac. Get hosed guy.

I've been exploring the Graveyard of Giants and the Gate of Illusion and I can't seem to find anything useful in either.

Edit: Well, I found the illusion map and connected the graveyard to the gate, and found some warp points, but they don't seem to lead anywhere helpful.

Also, I loving hate those ice wizards.

100 HOGS AGREE fucked around with this message at Jul 18, 2012 around 16:14

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


Underwhelmed posted:

An exe combo will do it, but you can't get it until quite a bit later. I don't recall the exact pattern, I think it is a ring within a ring of stars that signals a coin fairy. Just trip the fairy point, and if it isn't the right type, exit the room before they come together and try again.

Recognizing Fairies:
Healing: Two stars spinning in a circle.
Attack: Two stars spinning in a square.
Key: Four stars spinning in a square.
Item: Four stars spinning, two in a circle, two in a square (Combination of Healing and Attack)

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


Zeether posted:

Ah! I see what I have to do. Flare gun on the sun symbol.
You can just jump and whip it. Just make sure it doesn't crush you.

Speaking of crushing, I finally defeated Shu and Nigoro are such dicks.

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


Thievery posted:

I don't think this works on anything other than the knife. My axe doesn't seem to do any more damage. :\
Yes it does.

If anyone else is going crosseyed at the Endless Corridor door puzzle, I edited the graphics to show numbers instead of symbols. Take this file: http://i.imgur.com/IFs8P.png, dump it in C:\UsersLa-Mulana\data\graphics\00 and rename it map08_1.png. Back up the old one if you want.

ALL the graphics for the game are in that folder, so don't poke around too much, there could be spoilers maybe.

100 HOGS AGREE fucked around with this message at Jul 18, 2012 around 22:35

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


tooooooo bad posted:

Not anymore. Bosses and minibosses do more damage and can take more damage. Some have a few slight behavior changes too.

e: new to the PC remake, supposedly it affects the Hell Temple too.
I read that slab once, saw the warning and then saw it turn around after I exited out, and I was like FUUUUUUCK NO man, never looking at that thing again.

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


Original music:

Nalk posted:

Here you go.

Just put the unzipped "01" folder in the /data/music/ directory. You should then have a new option in the menu under music.

I can't promise everything is perfect however, I threw this together quickly.
Here it is again. Really should put this in the OP.

I've been using it for two days, works great.

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


victrix posted:

edit: Actual question - why isn't my Grail working for save spots in Twin Pillars above Inferno, and the Moonlight temple? Some tablet said something about needing specific game software loaded, I have both the one hidden behind the village elder statue, and the one purchased in Inferno
The software you need to load to warp into backside areas is in the Graveyard of Giants in a chest.

I had it for ages before I realized what it did. So much unnecessary backtracking.

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


Elswyyr posted:

How the hell do you get a Key Fairy? I've tried a spawn point a million times, and the only four-star thing that ever appears is a Money Fairy.
I made a post earlier explaining how to identify each fairy. You have to watch the pattern, not just the number of stars. It looks similar to the weapon fairy, so you're probably seeing it and thinking it's the wrong one.

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


Oh jesus, the silver shield blocks those waterfall fish.

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


Mr E posted:

I would definitely use it, not necessarily as a straight up walkthrough, but as a reference when I get stuck.
Just do a rough outline of what you can get when.

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


Zeether posted:

How in the gently caress am I supposed to use the grapple claws in that vertical shaft with the flamethrowers in the Inferno Cavern? The tablet says something about it and I could grab a wall below the second set (loving hate how getting hurt makes you fall off) and nothing was there at all. Unless the room with the flares was the thing it's talking about.

You gotta open the wall up first.

As for getting down there without wanting to kill yourself in real life, the best way I found (and I got real good at this because of that sub-boss) is to stand at the top and jump down and hug the left wall so you miss the first flame jet on the first screen. Due to the timing on the flame jets, you'll also miss the first flame jet on the left on the second screen. Grab the wall before you hit the second flame jet on the left and then you should be able to do two well-timed wall kicks to get into the opening.

I did that like 20 times.

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


Underwhelmed posted:

Actually.... I was just thinking about this, you can freely change your jump direction once you hit a wall, I wonder if it is possible to get inside of there without the claw or the feather? I'm not in a place that I can try it out, but something to think about.
No, the flame jet right above the hole is timed so you will hit it if you just jump down. You need to either use the claw or double jump to give it enough time to not be in the way.

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


Does anyone have a screenshot of Eden before you get the fruit?

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


Super Jay Mann posted:

Nah, combining those programs in your memory grants certain special effects based on the combos. It's a holdover from the original where you collected literally dozens of MSX ROMs and combined them to do all sorts of crazy stuff.

Incidentally, if you're exploring and find a hidden alcove or such that has nothing but a chest full of money, chances are that location had a ROM in the original.
There were 84 total.

Be thankful, in the original you had to buy one just to enable saving (and only in Elder Xelpud's tent). You could unlock 4 save slots with a second one but you couldn't find that one until You reenter Guidance Gate from the Confusion Gate (Illusion in the remake) So for a couple hours you only get one save slot.

Nigoro hates you. They just hate you less in the remake.

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


Nalk posted:

Here you go.

Just put the unzipped "01" folder in the /data/music/ directory. You should then have a new option in the menu under music.

I can't promise everything is perfect however, I threw this together quickly.
I added this to the wiki, I credited you and poo poo of course.

http://lamulana.super-turbo.net/wik...ds_%28Remake%29

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


I just realized something horrifying. I don't remember the exact wording but Mulbruk said that her father was a great tailor. There's only one entity that makes clothes in this game.

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


Him.

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


How do I get into the right side of the Graveyard of the Giants?

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


Exodee posted:

For all the hype Hell Temple got, it's not too bad so far. (Besides the occasional 'gently caress you go back 6 rooms' traps of course.) I'm guessing it was worse in the original?

You're going to need bombs to open that up. Try finding another entrance to that area.
Yeah, find another entrance into the area that I can't figure out how to get into. Thanks for the A+ hint there.

Ok, well, I'm absolutely stuck then. I haven't found any new paths or items in like two hours of playing. Last thing I did was use the dragon skull in the Holy Mother's Shrine, but I haven't been able to find out what that did.

Here's my inventory currently: http://i.imgur.com/7OzJb.png

I haven't found a way to get into the backside areas for the Spring in the Sky, Chamber of Extinction, or the Endless Corridor. I'm going absolutely nuts here. I've beaten bosses for Guidance, Giants, Sun, and Spring.

TheUkuleleFanboy posted:

Any tips for the warp puzzle in the Illusion/Confusion Gate? I found the secret warp but it just takes me back to the warp that leads out of the warp maze.
That one got me for like 20 minutes. Walk through the wall that the ghost maiden walked through. The warp that takes you there moves you past that different looking warp that moves you backward.

100 HOGS AGREE fucked around with this message at Jul 21, 2012 around 16:39

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


Mercury_Storm posted:

In the Tower of Ruin in the room as far to the left as you can go from the entrance you can use your earth spears to throw down at a red thingy below you that opens up a pathway down. That opens up a lot of new stuff and had me stuck for a long time until I watched the walkthrough and realized you could do that.
Thank you. Figures you'd have to Push that thing on the ledge there

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


Haha, get hosed Viy! I died a couple times but then I managed to hit him enough times with the software boosted axe the first time his eye popped out that he immediately went to his second phase and only took another three hits to kill.

Edit:

nigoro.png

100 HOGS AGREE fucked around with this message at Jul 21, 2012 around 17:40

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


Ddraig posted:

So does the game play nice with the Wired 360 controller? I love games like this, but I have a real hard time playing them on the keyboard. Playing Iji using the keyboard was an exercise in frustration for me.
It's already configured by default.

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


Wow getting knocked down the Tower of the Goddess for the 20th time by a medusa head is just as fun as the first time it happened!

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

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Ciaphas posted:

Is there a wiki or anything for the remake yet? I'm going criminally loving bonkers trying to find all the spots for the Eden puzzle in the Temple of Moonlight.
Yeah, the wiki for the original has a section for the remake.

http://lamulana.super-turbo.net/wik..._and_the_Remake

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


Man I don't even remember the birth seal being hard to get. I just ran around jumping into every glowing seal I could find once I got the conception seal and unlocked it somehow?

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


Did that music pack posted in here earlier have correct loops? The one I reposted on the wiki?

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


BrainGlitch posted:

This game looks really awesome but I'm kind of bad at puzzles and remembering little details. If I wanted to get this what should I know and how should I go about starting this game?
Whip everything. Especially if there isn't an eye in the background in a particular screen.

You can scan background objects, sometimes they are important, as they may be referenced in tablet hints. Room names, that appear in the map once you get it and a map viewer, may also be important.

Also, save constantly and in different slots.

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


Tyshalob posted:

Endless Corridor question:

I've made it to this part where you bring a floating black eyeball into a room with a blob and it makes a dias. I've placed a weight on the dias and it did something, but I don't know what. Do I need to kill the blob somehow?
Now run back to the start

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


A mod that displayed the name of a room after you get the map, like at the top of the screen, would be aces.

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

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Antlions posted:

Ok, I am neither fast or wise enough to solve this puzzle in Endless Corridor. Can someone spoil it for me? The wiki has nothing.
You can get into the upper block and bypass the entire level circuit

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100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007

Oh super wow! That looks like a tasty thing for me to eat with my excellent beak!


RadicalR posted:

Tower of the Goddess should not be dark unless-
I entered the Tower of the Goddess from the Gate of Time and stumbled around for like ten minutes in the dark until I fell down a bunch of screens to where the entrance actually is, and the lights popped on.

The lights don't seem to come on unless you enter that first room.

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