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It means women assume that you are nice/kind/sweet because you simply lack any other (real, quantifiable) positive traits and are thus too strange and/or unattractive to pull off the Rogiush Dickhead type of thing, or Playfully An rear end in a top hat
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Revol posted:I believe I'm a very nice and kind person. Nice and kind are basically givens for anyone who's not 100% douche. Revol posted:I take the interest of other people who I care about very seriously. You expect other people to have interests but yours amount to... the internet. I read this as you want to find someone to latch onto and do everything with. If you have different hobbies to your SO it can be interesting to introduce them to your hobbies if you can then be introduced to their hobbies. But not if they want to build their interests about you. It also pretty much puts the onus on the other person to control the conversation on a date, or where you go, or what you do. Because as stated you want to cater to and hear about their interests with nothing to give back. Revol posted:I think I'm pretty clever In general? Pretty clever is alright but it's not an attractive feature. It's more a case of you not being so stupid it drives people away. If you were startlingly intelligent, well read and/or with a significant subject of study or field of expertise. That might be an attractive feature. What areas are you knowlegable about? Revol posted:I don't think I've had a date where I didn't make the girl laugh. Brilliant! Genuinely funny is an attractive feature. What do you joke/laugh about? Revol posted:I think I'm creative Great, what do you create? This is a legitimate hobby/interest that you can develop and go and meet people through. Join a writing club, go to some drawing classes, join a band. Explore your creativity with other people, I've read a paper (can't find it right now) that creative people can increase their creativity and create much more expressive and exciting things while working with or around other creative people. Revol posted:I'm disappointed in my creative output as of late, which I think is affected by depression and such. No offense to depressed people. But if you're not actively working on fixing this it's a massive turn off. I've dated depressed people, who were not actively working through their issues or on medication, and it's loving miserable because they're loving miserable. At least in the beginning of a relationship it's about having fun and being excited by each others company, that's not going to happen if one person is unmotivated through intense depression or even just a bit of a sad sack. To summarise you have stated only two attractive attributes here, one of them that you don't think you are so much anymore because of depression. Do you no see that this is the exact reason people are saying to go out, meet people and better yourself. It's not just so you can get a chick and get laid. It's so you can be happier in yourself - and it might also help you get some confidence which is severely lacking from everything you wrote just then.
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| # ? Jul 13, 2012 16:49 |
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Underwater Shoe posted:You expect other people to have interests but yours amount to... the internet. I read this as you want to find someone to latch onto and do everything with. This whole post is great, but especially the quoted parts. The first few dates with someone are about getting to know them and seeing if you want to keep going. The problem is that there is very little to get to know about you. What do you talk about on the dates you've been on? Thinking back to my first date with my current girlfriend, we started out making a little small talk about the restaurant we were in, the photos on our dating profiles, things like that. She had a photo of her in the mountains on there and it got us talking about backpacking and rock climbing, which are two of my hobbies. I told her a funny story about being scared out of my wits one night while alone in the mountains by this weird unearthly noise which later turned out to be a bird's unusual courtship ritual. In response, she told me about a haunted theater she did a show in, and a funny prank combined with some genuinely weird happenings which lead us into a discussion of urban legends and mythological creatures. She was new to the area so I told her some of my favorite local tales and she told me some from where she grew up. When the food came we got on that subject and she told me about some of her favorite dishes and offered to teach me to make one. We talked about our favorite things to do in the area, she told me more about her theater background and the shows she'd been in, and we discussed our favorite hiking spots. We discovered there was this one spot we had both wanted to explore but never got around to, so we made another date to hike it the next weekend. Do you notice how most of our conversation revolved around things that we enjoyed doing and things that we had done? Really the only part that didn't was the small talk at the beginning and the urban legend discussion, but even those were peppered with some entertaining little anecdotes about things we'd done. Even the plans for a second date revolved around something we actually were interested in doing, not just another bland dinner/drinks thing. This is how most successful first dates I've had go. I'm a woman and I've dated men in the past, so I can tell you that it's pretty much the same regardless. Interesting people want to meet other interesting people, and most people are more interesting than you seem to be. That's nothing to despair over though, because you say you're clever and funny and creative so there's no reason you can't become a fascinating person on your own. As for the depression, it really is something you need to take care of on your own. I have it myself so I understand how hard it is, but it is true. Are you in therapy as well or just taking the meds? If you're not seeing a counselor, you should make an appointment with one ASAP. Medication alone generally will not fix depression, just make it easier for you to take an active role in your treatment. No one can pull you out of your depression except yourself. If you expect your partner to, it will only end in tears. Trust me, I've been there, done that. Even if you are lucky enough to find a woman willing to date you, you'll either drag her down to your level or she'll get frustrated and leave you. You need to fix yourself before you can expect to get into a relationship that is even remotely healthy.
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| # ? Jul 13, 2012 18:33 |
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Everyone has already given really good advice on what you should do regarding improving yourself, so I'm just going to comment on your profile: it is pretty loving boring. If you came up as a match for me, I would not give you a second look. You have a total of 14 interests, including TV (never put TV as an interest, come on), video games and comic books, and you also have a few sports. Wow, television AND sports, how can anyone resist that? Your about me has quotes from two people, which is OK, but that's the spot where you talk about yourself. You are trying to sell yourself with your words, and it doesn't look good when you're basically saying, "I'm posting these quotes because I can't express myself properly". And to be quite frank, you are basically the opposite of those two quotes. You have fears of talking to people and making friends, but your quotes talk about being unafraid and being aggressively positive; you can't have it both ways. Work on describing yourself to help you think about yourself in a better light, which will hopefully give you some badly-needed self-confidence. Also lose some weight, join a club to make friends and stop treating human interaction as a video game.
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| # ? Jul 13, 2012 22:27 |
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Revol posted:I believe I'm a very nice and kind person. I take the interest of other people who I care about very seriously. Seeing as you don't have any actual friends, who the hell are you nice and devoted to? It's the same when you say that many people find the idea of sex with a virgin attractive. You don't have any friends, so who are you getting your information from, your parents? You say you're funny, and maybe you are, but given that dates are a somewhat awkward social situation, your dates may be laughing because they know you told a joke and feel like they should laugh. The lamest jokes will get a laugh in an awkward situation. You probably have a lot of good points and a lot to offer, but you won't have a clue what these things are until you have an actual life. You won't have the first clue what you have to offer socially until you have some real friends. At the moment you're barely alive, and have no basis for comparison about anything. There isn't really a shortcut that doesn't involve making friends and experiencing the ups and downs of real friendship. Yes, it will take a couple of years, but it's better than spending the next few years flailing around achieving nothing. There's a remote possibility that you might find an incredibly broken girl who doesn't have any friends either. It could happen, but it will lead to huge problems if it does. You're afraid to have friends because someone betrayed your trust at some point. Usually when people feel like this, the problem is not that they trusted too much, but that they trusted too little. If you put all your trust in one person and that person changes (and people never stop changing) or you have an argument, it feels like a catastrophic betrayal. If you put your trust in a handful of close friends, if one person turns out to be a dick, or changes in such a way that you have nothing in common, you can just hang out more with your other friends. Having a group of friends also means you get better at telling who to trust and who to not trust. You can take people for what they are, rather than making one person your whole world. Some people are happy having a few close friends, while other people like having a huge range of acquaintances. But having no friends at all, or investing all your emotions in only one person will gently caress you over bigtime. Make friends, man. It's your only hope.
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| # ? Jul 13, 2012 23:14 |
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Drinking alone is dumb. Friends don't let friends drink alone. But if you don't have friends, then nobody's gonna stop you from doing it, so I can see that you're in a pickle. Here's the plan. Let's go to the bar and then we'll pound some shots and maybe pound some muff  No but seriously, I've only drank alone a couple of times, and I was bored as poo poo. I always see alcohol as a social thing, and if I can't be social when I'm drinking, I lose interest in drinking quickly and then I ultimately end up watching reruns of Jersey Shore and Workaholics on Netflix, semi-drunk and alone. Oh yeah, and whoever said that a six-pack will only give you a nice buzz isn't exactly correct. Considering you haven't really drank much at all, a sixer will totally get you loose and conversational. Especially if it's a sixer of Bud Light Platinum (because that poo poo is awesome as gently caress)! Not gonna lie, I have no idea who you are because I don't look at that online dating thread, but I'd probably grab a drink with a stranger, because that's what I do! No joke, if you were actually in my town, I'd go out with you and I'd get drunk and hit on chicks. And then you totally could too, man. It's awesome.
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| # ? Jul 13, 2012 23:34 |
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Revol posted:I've had somebody beg to take my virginity. I turned her down. I've brought it up in the OKC thread before, but she was in a long-distance relationship with her enlisted boyfriend, and she planned to gently caress me in her mom's Kia Sorento. Got a bit weird, so I said no. Dude, when you take into account that very rarely does anyone stay with the first person they gently caress forever, why did you turn her down? You seriously had nothing to lose and everything to gain by loving her. At this point in your life, the V-Card is such a huge liability for you, as any sane girl is going to see it as a huge red flag once they find out and it's probably one of the many reasons why you never get a 2nd date. I sure as poo poo wouldn't wanna date a 28 year old virgin, and as another poster mentioned, anyone else who isn't 17 is going to feel the same way. Look, alot of people when they're young and naive think that the first time they have sex is some major act which should be done in the most chivalrous and perfect circumstances. Eventually when people mature and they've been with a few different partners, they realise none of that poo poo matters and that loving another person is just a fun and enjoyable thing to do. This girl begged to take your virginity, right? It's not weird at all for people in long distances to want to cheat. Fair enough you took the "goon chivalry" option and turned her down, but what you don't seem to realise is your life isn't some hollywood romance movie. In your situation you need to take pussy anyway you can get it, and I can guarantee you by now that girl has hosed at least 4 or 5 other guys in the back of her Mom's Kia. One of them could've been you. Getting a root from anyone should be your shortest term goal on the way to improving yourself, focus on this as well as finding friends. I personally suggest you call up the Kia Sorrento chick right now and ask her to tidy her back seat, lay a towel out and you'll be over ASAP. Then report back and tell me how right I was.
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| # ? Jul 14, 2012 01:46 |
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You have an incredibly unhealthy mindset pretty much across the board, and until you address that the things you want will elude you until you're dead.
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| # ? Jul 14, 2012 05:14 |
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I think the saddest part here is that merely being willing to get involved with the op romantically in his current position in life should be a red flag. OP, there is literally no one willing to date you that you actually should date right now. Improve yourself before you go trolling for girls so you don't have to worry what baggage a girl must inevitably have to date a socially awkward 28 year old virgin with no redeeming qualities.
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| # ? Jul 14, 2012 05:29 |
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ArbitraryC posted:I think the saddest part here is that merely being willing to get involved with the op romantically in his current position in life should be a red flag. OP, there is literally no one willing to date you that you actually should date right now. Improve yourself before you go trolling for girls so you don't have to worry what baggage a girl must inevitably have to date a socially awkward 28 year old virgin with no redeeming qualities. I just can't get over how unwilling he seems to be to see and change what everyone is pointing out. It's like there's an excuse for everything. He needs to take ownership of his shortcomings and turn his life around. Like the running analogy someone made. He's trying to go straight from point A to point C without passing point B first. It's just not possible and he's not willing to accept that and put in effort to change.
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| # ? Jul 14, 2012 12:19 |
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Revol posted:No, I don't revel in it. I just try to not let it completely destroy me. I missed this. How do you figure that you're not letting it destroy you? You're 28 years old and are headed absolutely nowhere, and you're losing that free effortless momentum that we all leave high school/college with. Your denial is near mental illness levels. And let's examine your thread title for a moment, because it pisses me off. "It's bad when I become the 'don't be this guy' guy." Why is it bad? I'd say it perfectly goes without saying that I don't want to be you. What would be bad is if some solidly awesome dude with all of his poo poo together got into a situation where I wouldn't want to be him. It would be bad because it would mean something is seriously out of the norm, for someone who doesn't deserve to be a bad example or "that guy" to be so. In your case, I don't want to be you and that's normal because your life is a mess, and what's more, you don't appear to have the capability and/or willingness to even recognize what's wrong with you, let alone the ability to do anything about it.
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| # ? Jul 14, 2012 15:48 |
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marshmallard posted:Ask yourself this: you go to work every day, all day - what for? To earn money, yes? What do you want the money for? Revol, you said you don't ignore posts but there are a couple of questions above that you haven't answered. Do you have any favourite bands? Have you ever been to a live gig? What about the cinema, or the theatre? You need more stuff to talk about, which means more stuff going on in your life. Also, does anyone else ALWAYS get Revol by the Manic Street Preachers in their head after reading this thread? :/
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| # ? Jul 14, 2012 18:15 |
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Revol posted:I've had somebody beg to take my virginity. I turned her down. I've brought it up in the OKC thread before, but she was in a long-distance relationship with her enlisted boyfriend, and she planned to gently caress me in her mom's Kia Sorento. Got a bit weird, so I said no. Out of curiosity, do you bring up the virgin thing with a lot with people? If so, you probably want to stop. If things are getting serious between you and a girl, you can casually broach the topic, but don't get hung up about it. This is NOT because being a virgin is something shameful and "oh god everyone will know my horrible secret." It's because emphasizing the fact that you're a virgin is honestly a little creepy. Personal anecdote: In college, I had a friend who was absolutely obsessed with losing his virginity. He'd talk about it constantly, even well into our senior year. At the beginning, people were giving him advice and sharing their own experiences. He'd joke about it, and the whole thing was kind of cute. After a while, though, it just became weird and awkward. He'd bring it up again and again, complaining about how he was still alone and constantly telling everyone how he was a sad, pathetic, virgin loser. It became a little creepy to be around him, because he was so desperate. Our junior year, he made a list of every single girl he knew, and went down the line asking them out. No one said yes. It really wasn't appealing when his entire spiel was "I've never had sex. Want to go out?" Our senior year, he found a girl from one of his classes that really liked virgin guys. So they had sex. Cool, fine, yay! Except then he would not shut up about it. Everyone got to hear multiple renditions of this one night thing, and how happy he was that he'd finally had sex, and how good he was at it, and how he'd decided he was going to get a girlfriend and have sex a lot more often. And by the way, would any of you girls on my list like to go out? So what I'm saying with all of these  is that you should stop playing the virgin angle. Focus on developing meaningful relationships with people, and if you do meet a girl you like and things are getting serious, it's fine to say something like "I don't really have much experience" and let the conversation go naturally from there. Every time I see "And I'm still a virgin!" in these E/N threads, I immediately think of my creepy college friend. Don't be him.
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| # ? Jul 14, 2012 18:47 |
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hyperhazard posted:
Bwahahaha! Did this girl actually admit to you or someone you trust that this actually happened? I am not having any trouble picturing this kid either making it up or paying someone to cop to having sex with him despite it never happening, in order to have some kind of (in his mind) leverage to get the real thing. Wasn't there a movie with this premise that came out in the 90s?
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| # ? Jul 14, 2012 19:01 |
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ANGRY TEEN posted:Bwahahaha! Did this girl actually admit to you or someone you trust that this actually happened? I am not having any trouble picturing this kid either making it up or paying someone to cop to having sex with him despite it never happening, in order to have some kind of (in his mind) leverage to get the real thing. Two of my (normal) friends lived in the apartment with him and heard it go down. Subtlety was not really a strength of his. Although I suppose he and the girl could have been faking it, which is a whole new level of  .
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| # ? Jul 14, 2012 19:34 |
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Also Revol, the "don't be this guy" advice applies to you as well. You need to change, because you're in a pretty crappy place right now. You need to get your poo poo together before you try and date someone. If you get it together enough, you won't have to go looking very far.
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| # ? Jul 14, 2012 21:45 |
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I think that a huge part of your problem is that you try to plan everything out too far in advance. You seem obsessed with everything being safe, comfortable and going according to plan. For instance: if you've saved up 6000 dollars and are working full time, its not credible that you are only now able to move out. What you actually mean is that your only now comfortable moving out. You are currently in a place where you can have a one bedroom apartment all to your self without worrying about your car payments. I'll bet you could have moved into a place with room mates months or years ago. You could say the same about drinking, it requires nowhere near as much planning as you're putting into it. If you want to know what it's like to drink, drink. Its the same story with college-you aren't correct that a two year degree is just a stepping stone to university. Your community college probably offers a number of two year certificate programs that are designed to lead to a job right after graduation. But you saw that it wasn't exactly what you expected it to be and, rather than exploring what it is, just withdrew to a situation that you understood and could predict. The same applies to dating. Generally people meet romantic partners when they're out doing something interesting with friends. Its not usually something that's planned out in advance. It's something that happens as a byproduct of living and taking risks. You are more comfortable with the straight, functional path of deciding to meet girl; looking at pictures/reading a bit about her interests; messaging with the intent of hopefully setting up a date; dating. Online dating sites are great for expanding your social circle and meeting people that you otherwise would not, they are not substitutes for having a real social life. You need to take more risks, do things just to do them, do things you may well fail at, even things that could have some negative consequences for you. Otherwise, you'll never be able to grow. A new apartment, getting laid or being drunk would all be positive steps for you, but if you pursue them in the way that you currently are, its possible for you to check off all those boxes without any growth, and if there's one thing that shines through in your post, its frustration with the rut that you're stuck in.
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| # ? Jul 14, 2012 23:19 |
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There's nothing wrong with not drinking alcohol. I didn't have my first drink until I was 23. I didn't start drinking beer until I was 40. Why? Just never wanted to before. It wasn't because I actively disapprove of alcohol. I just saw no reason to start. Now, I drink for the taste rather than to get drunk. I like certain cocktails, and I like certain kinds of beer. Although it does make it easier to socialize with others (because chatting over booze is a common ritual in our society), I used to do that just by ordering virgin drinks at the bar (so I wouldn't be that one rear end in a top hat customer who comes in and orders water). I see no reason whatsoever to "teach yourself" to drink if you have no particular intrinsic desire to do so. Bars always have non-alcoholic drinks, and you can order virgin versions of cocktails if you want to be a good customer to the bar. Virgin cocktails also let you "fake it" so fitting in is easier at parties.
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| # ? Jul 15, 2012 06:35 |
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Going around saying you don't drink or you've never had a drink or you "prefer not to say" on your profile (seriously that looks bizarre) sets up a big "I AM NOT SOCIALLY NORMAL" flag, however unfair it is. It's a minor thing but it kinda marks you as someone who doesn't fit into the accepted model of a 20-something with a life. You need to lose weight. Start working out. You'll feel better about yourself even before you see weight loss/muscle definition, just because you can life heavy things and not lose your breath as quickly. There's a reason EN recommends this a lot. You will also meet people and have something to talk about. Friends are important. Yes, you need friends before you can get the Girlfriend Achievement. Here is a dramatic representation of why you're striking out:  : So what do you do for fun? Do you have any hobbies? : I play video games a lot. I'm really good at [doesn't matter she's stopped listening] No I mean like, what do you do when you go out with your friends?: Oh, I don't have friends.  : ... : : [thinking: This guy is a friendless weirdo manchild who doesn't drink or go outside and he looked thinner in his picture and oh god why did I sign up for that stupid site ugh. He's nice though so I guess I'll finish dinner but I am so not going on a second date, wait till I tell Stacy about this]Again, not having friends marks you as socially abnormal. Even nerdy girls don't want to date someone without friends. Moving out won't make everything magically better. You'll just be you with less social interaction than ever because you won't see your parents every day. Stop waiting for life to happen to you. Stop waiting for things to "make" you feel better, and work on feeling better yourself.
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| # ? Jul 15, 2012 18:18 |
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Revol, at this point, you're a 28 year old virgin. Will it kill you to wait longer, to get friends, to get somewhat healthy?
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| # ? Jul 15, 2012 18:34 |
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OP, if you're seriously worried about your virginity that bad just get an escort. And if you don't like drinking, find a girl who doesn't either, or one who can mutually not care about whether you're teetotalling. Simple.
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| # ? Jul 15, 2012 21:44 |
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Millie posted:Have a mixed drink of your preference (something more manly than a daiquiri).
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| # ? Jul 16, 2012 01:20 |
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Eggplant Wizard posted:Going around saying you don't drink or you've never had a drink or you "prefer not to say" on your profile (seriously that looks bizarre) sets up a big "I AM NOT SOCIALLY NORMAL" flag, however unfair it is. It's a minor thing but it kinda marks you as someone who doesn't fit into the accepted model of a 20-something with a life. It's never an issue because I am comfortable at bars, at parties, with people, with drunk people, with people shitfaced on MDMA, you get the idea. Whether or not you actually put alcohol/drugs in your face is not the problem. If you're comfortable, you can just say "thanks man, I'm good," and it's fine. But Revol's fundamental problem is that he isn't comfortable with himself or with the situations he's in. Down the road he can probably wind up drinking and be fine. Using alcohol as a crutch now would be a bad idea; it would only lead to another e/n "I can only talk to people when I'm drunk."
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| # ? Jul 16, 2012 01:50 |
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Anne Whateley posted:Down the road he can probably wind up drinking and be fine. Using alcohol as a crutch now would be a bad idea; it would only lead to another e/n "I can only talk to people when I'm drunk." I really doubt this is actually the case. He should have a drink to loosen up, not down a 5th in the back alley.
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| # ? Jul 16, 2012 02:22 |
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Anne Whateley posted:Honestly, out of all Revol's issues, this is the lowest on the list. Oh I totally agree. I thought it needed commenting on is all since he doesn't seem to understand why people keep telling him to drink. I think it's part of a larger pattern.
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| # ? Jul 16, 2012 03:28 |
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Eggplant Wizard posted:
I had a (crazy) friend who would go on dates she wasn't interested in so she could get a free meal and have something to tell me about afterwards. I was not on board with it and did not encourage it, so don't jump on me about it.
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| # ? Jul 16, 2012 03:39 |
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On one hand, don't be scared of drinking. You're not going to turn into an alcoholic or anything, and you won't black out the first dozen times you drink or whatever because you won't be able to drink that much. It's largely a mental affair, if you try to control it with willpower (how much you want to drink) you definitely can if you just put in enough effort.
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| # ? Jul 16, 2012 04:51 |
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tbp posted:On one hand, don't be scared of drinking. You're not going to turn into an alcoholic or anything, and you won't black out the first dozen times you drink or whatever because you won't be able to drink that much. It's largely a mental affair, if you try to control it with willpower (how much you want to drink) you definitely can if you just put in enough effort. Also, the guy who implied that having a couple of drinks while on antidepressants can make you attempt suicide was not really correct. You should carefully consider drinking while on antidepressants because often the effects of alcohol are somewhat stronger due to the medication, and regular or heavy alcohol consumption has the potential to reduce the efficacy of the medication and cause physical side effects. Having a drink or two maybe one or two nights a week isn't really going to affect much of anything, and you're not going to get drunk off of that amount even with medication. But yeah, Anne Whateley is right that whether you drink or not is not the issue. Lots of people don't drink and unless you're hanging out with alcoholics or high school kids no one is going to care if you abstain as long as you don't get weird about it. I don't drink anymore and I've found it actually goes over quite well, because everyone loves having a regular designated driver.
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2tomorrow posted:Also, the guy who implied that having a couple of drinks while on antidepressants can make you attempt suicide was not really correct. You should carefully consider drinking while on antidepressants because often the effects of alcohol are somewhat stronger due to the medication, and regular or heavy alcohol consumption has the potential to reduce the efficacy of the medication and cause physical side effects. Having a drink or two maybe one or two nights a week isn't really going to affect much of anything, and you're not going to get drunk off of that amount even with medication. I take antidepressants, so I do have to be careful with my alcohol consumption, but not because it makes me "suicidal" or anything bizarre like that. The thing is, alcohol and my meds are processed in the same metabolic pathway in the liver, which has the result of making alcohol hang around longer in my body. Practical consequence is that if I have 1 drink, it's like other people having 3 simultaneously. I tend to order expensive brands of liquor since I can only have 1 or 2 drinks in an evening. I made myself a rule that if I have anything at all to drink, I don't drive anywhere afterward.
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| # ? Jul 16, 2012 18:18 |
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Revol posted:I would much rather a girl lose interest in me due to my virginity on a second date, rather than after she's just realized she had "Sex" with a virgin. Why? Sexual experiences aren't really a subject that usually comes up during first or second dates and if it somehow does, then why not say that you're on a particularly long dry spell or something? They can't actually tell that you're a virgin by looking at your nose and the worst thing that could happen is that any potential sex is awkward and not very good. But it's not like that's something that can only happen when there's a virgin involved since there's always a chance of that happening because people are sexually incompatible, one of them is stuck up, or into some weird poo poo or whatever. So while there's a pretty good chance that some random chick will think that the sex was bad, at least you'll have passed that first hurdle. Whoever you end up boinking is not going to magically become your soulmate who stays with you for the rest of your life anyway. So there's really no reason to be so honest and open about this, unless she also happens to be your therapist. This is becoming a long rear end post but Jesus Christ, get that place of your own so you can make some friends who can help you get laid and for the love of god don't tell anyone that you're a virgin and ditch any weird chivalrous notions you have about true honest love or whatever it was that prevented you from loving that chick in her mom's car.
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| # ? Jul 16, 2012 19:11 |
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Don't try this. Don't do anything like this. Skippy the Virgin, Coming Soon on TLC's Virgin Diaries Virginity should never be anyone's main personality trait.
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| # ? Jul 16, 2012 19:20 |
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RalAegidius posted:I take antidepressants, so I do have to be careful with my alcohol consumption, but not because it makes me "suicidal" or anything bizarre like that. The thing is, alcohol and my meds are processed in the same metabolic pathway in the liver, which has the result of making alcohol hang around longer in my body. Yeah, I did pretty much the same when I was still drinking and on antidepressants. I don't think you took that as directed at you, but to be sure I was referencing a post on page 2 or 3 where someone said that a friend asked if he could drink while on them, goon said yes, several days later goon discovered friend attempting suicide. I just couldn't find the post again.
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| # ? Jul 16, 2012 19:24 |
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The problem isn't that you're bad with women, or that you're unattractive, or a virgin, or unlucky, or don't like drinking or live with your parents. The problem is that you're loving boring. Revol posted:I feel my priority is a romantic and sexual relationship. Stop trying to date anyone. Go find some passions besides game consoles. Go outside, get hobbies, maybe get more school, get really good at something and be interested in it because you LOVE it and not for "beep-boop acquire hobby, achievement unlocked". Unless you're a tool, you'll find friends who share your passion, and you'll meet lots of people along the way who find you interesting, and eventually one of those people will be a female and eventually there will be romance and sex even though you're a virgin teetotaler. And stop worrying about not liking booze. It's a weird trait that you'll probably get over if you learn to be more social, but if that's who you are, loving own it instead of spending nights alone trying to force yourself to choke down Natty Ice while playing super smash brothers. Getting drunk by yourself to "fix" that "problem" is horrible advice and will help nothing. You need to give people a reason to give a poo poo about you. You need to bring something to the table other than being there. Picture her describing you to her friends or family. Why? Because she will picture that too, and she'll be thinking "poo poo what would I tell my parents about this guy? He's nice? That's boring." Everyone is nice, that's not interesting at all. Chase passions and the rest will fall into place.
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| # ? Jul 16, 2012 19:45 |
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Arch Stanton posted:The problem isn't that you're bad with women, or that you're unattractive, or a virgin, or unlucky, or don't like drinking or live with your parents. I think in this case there are multiple problems.
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| # ? Jul 16, 2012 20:07 |
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Someone should get OP to go to that creepy school in Holland that teaches socially stunted manchildren to speak to women. The course culminates with having sex with a 50 year old hippy. Here is a documentary about it: http://www.aquarion.nl/cms_c01/Defa...D=8730&ItemID=0
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| # ? Jul 17, 2012 05:46 |
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As a 16 year old girl pointed out, no one knows unless you tell them. Why make a big thing of it? Just don't mention it? No one cares, just get on with your life.Never you mind posted:Don't try this. Don't do anything like this.  there are so many things wrong with that video.."I'll be in there if you need me" No one will need you Skippy. Ever.
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| # ? Jul 17, 2012 11:03 |
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I think Revol's chickened out of the thread. He hasn't posted in it for four days despite lots of questions from others - and he last posted elsewhere on the forums yesterday.
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| # ? Jul 17, 2012 14:24 |
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marshmallard posted:I think Revol's chickened out of the thread. He hasn't posted in it for four days despite lots of questions from others - and he last posted elsewhere on the forums yesterday. It's kinda hard to get motivated to participate in a thread when I'm being called a 'socially stunted manchild'. I may be a lot of things, but that is not one of them.
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| # ? Jul 17, 2012 14:42 |
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Revol posted:It's kinda hard to get motivated to participate in a thread when I'm being called a 'socially stunted manchild'. I may be a lot of things, but that is not one of them. You might want to re-read your posts in this thread and think about that a little harder, dude.
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| # ? Jul 17, 2012 14:44 |
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| # ? May 19, 2013 23:09 |
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Yeah, this turned into a big ol' pile-on. Revol, you should just go do A Social Thing and report back.
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