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Terror Sweat
Mar 15, 2009


Mister Roboto posted:

Time to re-live being 13 and screaming out your power levels, guys.

http://www.dragonball2013.com/



Why does Krillin have hair?

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Monaghan
Dec 29, 2006
no longer a stupid newbie

Terror Sweat posted:

Why does Krillin have hair?

he started growing it after the cell saga, when he hooked up with 18.

Mister Roboto
Jun 15, 2009

I SWING BY AUNT MAY's
FOR A SHOWER AND A
BITE, MOST NATURAL
THING IN THE WORLD,
ASSUMING SHE'S
NOT HOME...

...AND I
FIND HER IN BED
WITH MY
FATHER, AND THE
TWO OF THEM
ARE...ARE...

...AAAAAAAAUUUUGH!

Terror Sweat posted:

Why does Krillin have hair?

Android 18 likes long hair on her husband and you know he won't be saying no.

Momomo
Dec 25, 2009



I am very excited to see how dumb this will get. The Bardock special's big reveal was amazing, so if it's on that level I'll be happy.

AlternateNu posted:

I wonder if it is going to be in the same vein as the other movies, which were basically just self-contained 45 minute episodes.

This isn't true because things actually happen in them.

Bushmaori
Mar 8, 2009


I want super saiyan 3 Vegeta, though that would make GT make even less sense. Always bugged me that he never reached it despite having the ten or so years after the Buu saga to do it, you know he wouldn't just stand for being shown up like that.

ElBrak
Aug 24, 2004

"Muerte, buen compinche. Muerte."

Momomo posted:

I am very excited to see how dumb this will get. The Bardock special's big reveal was amazing, so if it's on that level I'll be happy.


This isn't true because things actually happen in them.

One of my favorite things to do with the first 3-4 movies was try to see if they fit in the series timeline, based on who was alive and who was dead and what techniques they used. As far as I figured only Deadzone would fit.

Mister Roboto
Jun 15, 2009

I SWING BY AUNT MAY's
FOR A SHOWER AND A
BITE, MOST NATURAL
THING IN THE WORLD,
ASSUMING SHE'S
NOT HOME...

...AND I
FIND HER IN BED
WITH MY
FATHER, AND THE
TWO OF THEM
ARE...ARE...

...AAAAAAAAUUUUGH!

ElBrak posted:

One of my favorite things to do with the first 3-4 movies was try to see if they fit in the series timeline, based on who was alive and who was dead and what techniques they used. As far as I figured only Deadzone would fit.

A few of the movies can fit the canon as they don't contradict much:

Bojack Unbound (takes place after Goku dies).

Wrath of the Dragon (takes place after Buu dies).

These push it a bit:

Broly - The Legendary Super Saiyan (takes place during the 10 day wait for the Cell games).

And maaaaaaybe Cooler's Revenge, but this is the absolute limit of believability.

The rest are too contradictory to possibly fanwank in.

Mister Roboto fucked around with this message at Jul 16, 2012 around 08:20

Shakugan
Dec 19, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 32 hours!


I'd REALLY like this movie to directly contradict GT in some way, establishing that GT isn't canon.

Mister Roboto
Jun 15, 2009

I SWING BY AUNT MAY's
FOR A SHOWER AND A
BITE, MOST NATURAL
THING IN THE WORLD,
ASSUMING SHE'S
NOT HOME...

...AND I
FIND HER IN BED
WITH MY
FATHER, AND THE
TWO OF THEM
ARE...ARE...

...AAAAAAAAUUUUGH!

Shakugan posted:

I'd REALLY like this movie to directly contradict GT in some way, establishing that GT isn't canon.

This is incredibly likely. Toriyama's been spending the past few years writing the story for Dragonball Online, which pretty much ignores all of GT.

So, in a way, DBO is the official continuation of Dragonball Z since it comes from the author.

WhiffleballDude
Mar 28, 2010



Adult Gohan is my favorite character and I want him to be the big cool hero and save the day but I know that's not going to happen. At the very least I want some sort of acknowledgement that he's the strongest one among them by the end of Z because gently caress Wrath of the Dragon and gently caress GT.

Shakugan
Dec 19, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 32 hours!


One thing that I really like about DBZ in retrospect is that the power levels truly were 'power' levels. E.g. energy output per unit time. They changed with attacks, emotional states etc. In so many other shows, they have 'energy' levels, where the number or whatever basically determines the outcome of a fight.

Linnear
Nov 3, 2010


Bushmaori posted:

I want super saiyan 3 Vegeta, though that would make GT make even less sense. Always bugged me that he never reached it despite having the ten or so years after the Buu saga to do it, you know he wouldn't just stand for being shown up like that.

He seemed to have set the rivalry aside by the end of the Buu saga, so maybe the motivation wasn't really there.

arisu
Apr 11, 2003

:animeface:


Shakugan posted:

One thing that I really like about DBZ in retrospect is that the power levels truly were 'power' levels. E.g. energy output per unit time. They changed with attacks, emotional states etc. In so many other shows, they have 'energy' levels, where the number or whatever basically determines the outcome of a fight.

Another thing that's great is how much they joke about the power creep that most other shows largely ignore. In that recent special especially. "Oh these guys have reached the level of that one guy that destroyed whole planets and plunged the universe into a state of constant terror? The one we barely got by? Yeah let's let the nine year olds take care of it."

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!


Also, power levels explode devices every time someone tries to measure them in Z. Especially in Buu saga.

Terror Sweat
Mar 15, 2009


Mister Roboto posted:

Android 18 likes long hair on her husband and you know he won't be saying no.



Ohhhh yeah I completely forgot about that.

becrumbac
Apr 24, 2012


Bushmaori posted:

I want super saiyan 3 Vegeta, though that would make GT make even less sense. Always bugged me that he never reached it despite having the ten or so years after the Buu saga to do it, you know he wouldn't just stand for being shown up like that.

SSJ3 Vegeta already exists - he's popped up in a few video games. As has SSJ3 Broly, Gogeta, and Trunks(?).

Bushmaori
Mar 8, 2009


becrumbac posted:

SSJ3 Vegeta already exists - he's popped up in a few video games. As has SSJ3 Broly, Gogeta, and Trunks(?).

Yeah I've played a couple of those games, but I mean in an official capacity. As a previous poster said it seems like he lost his drive after the Buu fight, I was hoping that he would give up trying to surpass Goku as he realised Goku was basically an idiot savant in fighting, but not give up on becoming more powerful himself.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012



Wasn't SSJ3 a basically meta-humor by Toryiama mocking the trope of constant new transformations for the hero? Seems like it'd be defeating the point for someone achieving it to be a useful accomplishment.

Anyways I think it's time to start placing bets about how the bad guy will be killed. My money's on the Spirit Bomb.

Suben
Jul 1, 2007

In 1985 Dr. Strange makes a rap album.


Mister Roboto posted:

Android 18 likes long hair on her husband and you know he won't be saying no.



You know I'm going to be disappointed if the characters don't retain their "vaguely futurish circa 1991" fashion.

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying

Stairmaster posted:

Wasn't SSJ3 a basically meta-humor by Toryiama mocking the trope of constant new transformations for the hero? Seems like it'd be defeating the point for someone achieving it to be a useful accomplishment.

Anyways I think it's time to start placing bets about how the bad guy will be killed. My money's on the Spirit Bomb.
I'm going to put all my money on destructo d- ahahahaha I can't even finish.

Momomo
Dec 25, 2009



Stairmaster posted:

Anyways I think it's time to start placing bets about how the bad guy will be killed. My money's on the Spirit Bomb.
Hasn't that only worked like one time, and it was at the very end? For a supposedly ultimate attack, it had a pretty poo poo track record.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012



It's not as bad as the Kamehameha though which killed an amazing total of one guy despite being used around forty times.


And in the spirit bomb's defense it at least winded the bad guys even if it didn't kill them.

WhiffleballDude
Mar 28, 2010



Stairmaster posted:

Anyways I think it's time to start placing bets about how the bad guy will be killed. My money's on the Spirit Bomb.

Combined beam attacks from Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, and Gotenks while Piccolo and Krillin sit on the sidelines and be useless.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

Asian Scum. The latest and greatest.


He'll be turned into food by Buu and Goku will literally eat him.

Bushmaori
Mar 8, 2009


If not the Vegeta thing then how about Krillin actually getting a good fight, like against a ressed Nappa or something.

Momomo
Dec 25, 2009



Stairmaster posted:

It's not as bad as the Kamehameha though which killed an amazing total of one guy despite being used around forty times.


And in the spirit bomb's defense it at least winded the bad guys even if it didn't kill them.

The Kamehameha does not take multiple episodes to charge up.

Mister Roboto
Jun 15, 2009

I SWING BY AUNT MAY's
FOR A SHOWER AND A
BITE, MOST NATURAL
THING IN THE WORLD,
ASSUMING SHE'S
NOT HOME...

...AND I
FIND HER IN BED
WITH MY
FATHER, AND THE
TWO OF THEM
ARE...ARE...

...AAAAAAAAUUUUGH!

Momomo posted:

Hasn't that only worked like one time, and it was at the very end? For a supposedly ultimate attack, it had a pretty poo poo track record.

For the record, Goku doesn't directly kill ANYONE during the entire Dragonball Z series (Buu being reborn negates his death). The only real death was Yakon, who just ate too much of Goku's energy so Goku didn't really do anything.

Of course, that's not from lack of trying, he shoots Freeza and Cell in the face, they just happened to be really really really resilient.

ElBrak
Aug 24, 2004

"Muerte, buen compinche. Muerte."

Mister Roboto posted:

For the record, Goku doesn't directly kill ANYONE during the entire Dragonball Z series (Buu being reborn negates his death). The only real death was Yakon, who just ate too much of Goku's energy so Goku didn't really do anything.

Of course, that's not from lack of trying, he shoots Freeza and Cell in the face, they just happened to be really really really resilient.

Most of his direct kills happen in the movies, where he actually kills quite a few people with Kamehamahas, though never main bad guys.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!


Basically Freeza and after that saga was the Vegeta family line cleaning up his mess and finishing the kills. It was really annoying.

KoB
Apr 30, 2009


Bushmaori posted:

If not the Vegeta thing then how about Krillin actually getting a good fight, like against a ressed Nappa or something.

I want this just because he would loving destroy Nappa at this point.

Petiso
Apr 30, 2012


edited: I can't read.

Yosuke
Dec 21, 2006
Hot-Blooded Baker!

KoB posted:

I want this just because he would loving destroy Nappa at this point.

if Nappa came back I'd like to see -him- go SSJ just to see how they handle bald people going that state.

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

mumblecrew

I thought I remember Nappa coming back in one of the movies, or GT or something, and him telling Vegeta that they can go conquer the universe now and Vegeta just kills him then and there.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

Invoking fairy dust is not a crime.


Yosuke posted:

if Nappa came back I'd like to see -him- go SSJ just to see how they handle bald people going that state.

His mustache will get spiky and poo poo.

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008

"Trafalgar Law...his manners aren't too good."


Yosuke posted:

if Nappa came back I'd like to see -him- go SSJ just to see how they handle bald people going that state.

I want that too, if only to prove the theory that by the end of DBZ Krillin could hold his own against a SSJ. Look...I just want Krillin to get more respect, okay?

In other news, I've never stopped finding it hilarious that Krillin's VA does Luffy as well. You can only play second fiddle for so long, I guess.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Are you mocking me?

Doesn't he end up like rich and happily married and one of the most powerful beings in the universe, just not on the same level as Godking Saiyan Dudes. I'm pretty sure you don't do better than that.

(I haven't seen DBZ aside from DBZAbridged for like fifteen years so maybe he gets his neck broken and tossed in a ditch, I forget.)

Nasgate
Jun 7, 2011


Him and Yamcha are literally the most powerful humans by a longshot and I'm pretty certain that Krillin is more powerful than Yamcha. Being one of the only humans who can fly and shoot laser beams is a pretty distinguished point.

In fact, the more I think about Krillin, the cooler I realize he is, he just gets overshadowed by a prince and the son of the most badass guy from a planet full of warriors so crazy they could breathe in space.

Monaghan
Dec 29, 2006
no longer a stupid newbie

ImpAtom posted:

Doesn't he end up like rich and happily married and one of the most powerful beings in the universe, just not on the same level as Godking Saiyan Dudes. I'm pretty sure you don't do better than that.

(I haven't seen DBZ aside from DBZAbridged for like fifteen years so maybe he gets his neck broken and tossed in a ditch, I forget.)

I'm actually hoping that when Abridged gets to the Buu saga they make Krillin act like a smug motherfucker. He's earned it dammnit.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

Skullgirls? Rockmen?
Fuck'em all!


Monaghan posted:

I'm actually hoping that when Abridged gets to the Buu saga they make Krillin act like a smug motherfucker. He's earned it dammnit.

Swap the Krillan Own'd counter to a Krillan Owns counter. And just pop it every time he's on screen with 18.

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Lord of Laughton
Nov 11, 2008

It's hard to say for certain
But I think I like it here.


Krillin is almost certainly the most powerful human, but only if you don't consider 18 as a human.

I just hope this movie has more Hercule. He was my favorite. I always loved how he manages to convince the world that he is the strongest despite all the overwhelming evidence against him. When he 'fights' Trunks in the fighting competition at the start of the Buu saga and makes it seem like he lost on purpose to make the kid feel good... genius.

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