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I get this when I watch videos of people getting back massages, it just relaxes me completely. I didn't know there was a name for it, I just thought I was weird.
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| # ? Jul 17, 2012 19:20 |
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Huh. This is a new one for me but I'm not surprised that this happens in the slightest. I also completely believe it when people say it isn't a sex thing. What this sounds like to me is a crossed wire in the brain. At some point in the OPs development the pleasure centers of the brain made an accidental connection to the language centers. The result being that activation of certain language circuits inadvertently also send signals to certain pleasure circuits, causing the phenomenon the OP describes. This would also explain why it manifests in different ways for diferent people. Different people would have different parts of their brain wired to their pleasure centers. The stimulus is diferent but the resulting feeling is the same. It sounds weird but other versions of crossed brain wires are well documented. For example you may have heard of people who see math as colors or hear language as music. There was even one case I remember where a man had the pleasure centers of his brain feeding into the part of the brain that makes you sleep. So every time he got too happy he'd slip into a mini-coma. It REALLY sucked for him actually. I'm not a doctor though, so I could be full of poo poo on this one. readingatwork fucked around with this message at Jul 17, 2012 around 20:21 |
| # ? Jul 17, 2012 20:12 |
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vandalism posted:This poo poo makes me tingly. And shows me how to fold towels. Feels good man. Let me know if this works the same way (you'll learn some fun things about math and nature): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahXIMUkSXX0 Maybe it's the hands. 
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| # ? Jul 17, 2012 20:33 |
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Fruits of the sea posted:For me, the sensation is similiar, but not the same. It isn't like goosebumps, cold shudders or frisson either. I don't think there is any point in describing the experience in detail. Emotions and physical sensations are relative, and pretty drat hard to describe without generalizations, even those we all know, such as pain, wetness and so on. Very true. This is why various 'tingles' in actual medical literature are so vaguely described, and why this is unlikely to ever get an actual name unless an EEG can watch it happen. And even if it is, the fact that people will experience it differently, because people just don't experience sensations exactly the same as each other, means that the definition will necessarily be extremely broad and sort of meaningless. I'm not a skeptic, exactly. My first post in this thread is one that recommends an album that elicits pleasurable sensations for me. They come with other symptoms that suggest that it's more tied to my epilepsy than anything else, but a lot of seizures are a result of a normal neurological excitation getting a little out of hand. I still figure it could be related. Plus, again, I have some sensory issues that make me very aware that people experience the world in different ways. My only real objection is to immediately jumping to the idea that this must be a new thing rather than looking at what is already described and studied and considering how close or far it sounds from these phenomena. Count Chocula posted:Does this have anything to do with the 'brain zaps' (the real name) you get when you miss a dose of anti-depressant medication? They feel more... zappy. These are usually described as a negative sensation.
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| # ? Jul 17, 2012 21:16 |
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I get... something like this from stuff like Bob Ross, or this lady's massage videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe33HmvfPSw I went through a period trying to find more stuff like that, but once I stumbled across videos with people like, crinkling paper and roleplaying optometrists to deliberately bring about the sensation I felt like I was on an express train to creepy town and got the hell out of dodge. In no way do I think this makes me special or that I need some kind of label.
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| # ? Jul 17, 2012 21:33 |
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Omnomnomnivore posted:I went through a period trying to find more stuff like that, but once I stumbled across videos with people like, crinkling paper and roleplaying optometrists to deliberately bring about the sensation I felt like I was on an express train to creepy town and got the hell out of dodge. Not creepy, but certainly odd. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn1_PaNKK2Y *Soft Spoken* The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Tutorial Gameplay http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToDMjB4w-EU *Soft Spoken* Star Wars: The Old Republic Classes Totally creepy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzX7qwlKyoM *Soft Spoken* Love You Forever But I guess it is a good soundtrack to listen to while you
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| # ? Jul 17, 2012 21:44 |
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I'm an open minded person but, what the gently caress. This is like the opposite of a phobia. I knew a girl that was terrified of balloons being rubbed together. The sound I guess. Really weird.
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| # ? Jul 17, 2012 21:57 |
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So is this related to piss shivers? edit: I am an idiot and did not read the full thread. Piss shivers rock for real though.
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| # ? Jul 17, 2012 22:32 |
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I used to get these a lot when I was in my mid-late teens. I would be sitting there listening to music (big music nerd) and have a huge pleasurable rush that would start at the back of my head and go down my spine through the erogenous area and down the legs, literally like an orgasm starting from the brain. They were particularly intense if I'd been drinking and smoking weed. But I did get them sober as well. I haven't had one since then, though. I think I fried my brain. edit: should probably mention they felt a lot different or intense to just 'chills down the spine' like when you get one of those orgasmatron thingies on your head or whatever, but like a full on rush. Could be quite overwhelming at times. Sludge Tank fucked around with this message at Jul 17, 2012 around 23:38 |
| # ? Jul 17, 2012 23:36 |
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Oh well what the hell, might as well weigh in here and see if anyone else feels this. I've never really experienced what you guys are talking about, but I have this thing where I can slightly focus on one body part and it feels like it's getting pins and needles but in an overwhelming way, like a surge of electricity. I can bring it on at will but find it massively uncomfortable and have to stop shortly after. I can concentrate it on any part of my body but it'll get to the point where I shudder involuntarily and have to stop. It's not brought on by any emotion and I do find it physically uncomfortable.
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| # ? Jul 17, 2012 23:43 |
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readingatwork posted:Huh. This is a new one for me but I'm not surprised that this happens in the slightest. I also completely believe it when people say it isn't a sex thing. Seems like as good a theory as anything else anyone's come up with so far. What's interesting is how much more widespread this is than I thought. Chalk it up to the Internet and all that, but I've never actually met anyone in person that experienced the same thing, much less finding out that it's certainly not an isolated thing. Callipygian Weasel posted:This is why various 'tingles' in actual medical literature are so vaguely described, and why this is unlikely to ever get an actual name unless an EEG can watch it happen. And even if it is, the fact that people will experience it differently, because people just don't experience sensations exactly the same as each other, means that the definition will necessarily be extremely broad and sort of meaningless. While I absolutely agree that getting actual monitoring equipment on some folks is important, it's also worth noting that despite all the various trigger criteria, the actual reaction is the same. When I first started reading about it, I was struck by the fact that it exactly described the sensations and in order. Were it describing the reactions to frisson or just goosebumps or a spine-tingling sensation, that would be one thing, but both the description and the actual reaction are separate, properly described things for me. It seems to be more precise than just a nebulous "feeling" or "sensation" that could be chalked up to anything. Of course, that could absolutely be confirmation bias, but it certainly seemed to be dead on. Omnomnomnivore posted:I went through a period trying to find more stuff like that, but once I stumbled across videos with people like, crinkling paper and roleplaying optometrists to deliberately bring about the sensation I felt like I was on an express train to creepy town and got the hell out of dodge. That's been the biggest problem. The weird-out factor of people trying to force by slapping their hands all over stuff or drumming nails or other really obvious stuff makes it look like something dirty, and it creeps me ou- Indolent Bastard posted:Totally creepy. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! See, this is why I'm with Omnomnomnivore. I'd rather just come across this organically when I'm out and about or meeting new people and be thankful when I do; trying to force it or look to people trying to trigger it manually is just too fraught with potential to leave me curled up in the fetal position and rocking myself to sleep.
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| # ? Jul 17, 2012 23:58 |
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I find most of the roleplay videos I've seen kinda creepy, but wow, that's on another level. The weird hugboxy vibe I get from the "ASMR community" is why I said earlier that finding out that the Internet is talking about this is what made me feel like a crazy person.
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| # ? Jul 18, 2012 00:16 |
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SamBishop posted:When I first started reading about it, I was struck by the fact that it exactly described the sensations and in order The problem is that I might describe the feeling of frisson or spine-tingling to you with exactly the words as you might explain whatever this is to me. Hell, until you get really extreme, I'd wager it is difficult NOT to relate sensory descriptions to one's own experiences when no trigger is mentioned. So yes, I would call cognitive bias a significant issue there. Also note the small measure of disagreement in this thread at the level of similarity to the sensation evoked by the 'orgasmatron' massage wires.
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| # ? Jul 18, 2012 01:03 |
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This sounds very much like the thing that autistic people really get into. I don't mean that people who experience this are autistic, but rather autistic people really get a kick out of it more than usual. The pleasure from it seems to be much more significant to them. There was a video of a reporter from CNN I think. She did an interview with a really, really goony autistic woman who refused to look at her or speak aloud. Instead she wanted to do all the talking through the computer. Anyways, I think this exact same woman made a very haunting melody on youtube (was shown in interview) of herself making an "eeeeeeEEEEEEEeeee" sound with her voice while combining a wide variety of other sounds with it by scratching and digging her fingers into the arm rests of her chair & other house hold items near her. It seemed as if the whole purpose of making that video was to indulge heavily in that specific pleasure. To overstimulate that portion of the brain that finds these sounds and actions pleasurable. It made me wonder if this might be a common thing for autistic people. Aha! Found it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnylM1hI2jc Edit: Rephrasing Wicker Man fucked around with this message at Jul 18, 2012 around 01:22 |
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GaryLeeLoveBuckets posted:I get this when I watch videos of people getting back massages, it just relaxes me completely. I didn't know there was a name for it, I just thought I was weird. I get this whenever I go get a haircut and my Also, people's disproportionate reaction to the word "moist"
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| # ? Jul 18, 2012 01:16 |
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Yeah, I'm one of these people. I remember as a kid watching my friend draw and getting this fuzzy, tingling sensation down my scalp and back and legs and arms, and that's always been the kind of thing that gets me all fuzzy, people drawing or painting, creating lines and textures with smooth pens and paint (but not pencil or felt-tip because they both make scratching noises). Ditto to watching videos of people getting massages. That's really what this is like, it's like getting a massage. In a way it's pretty unsexy because it's so relaxing I can't really imagine getting off while fuzzing out to a video of someone drawing flowers with a ball-tip pen.Telemarchitect posted:I get this whenever I go get a haircut and my Oh god this, or when the haircutter trims the nape of my neck with an electric razor.
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| # ? Jul 18, 2012 01:41 |
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Wow, I'm so glad to know I'm not the only one who gets this! I've had this happen occasionally ever since I was a child. It's only triggered by very specific things though, like watching someone draw or having something explained really slowly. I tried explaining it to a friend once and he looked at me like I was nuts. 
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| # ? Jul 18, 2012 02:52 |
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Huh, weird, always figured I was some kind of mutant for experiencing that. Anyways, this video does it for me, and aside from scalp jollies Svankmajer is awesome just in his own right: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKvw0G_72v8
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| # ? Jul 18, 2012 05:27 |
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Another freak checking in, only mine is only really triggered when I'm watching someone write or draw. It doesn't stop there though, it's usually only when they don't know I'm watching them. I don't really have any other voyeuristic qualities, so I don't know what the hell.
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| # ? Jul 18, 2012 05:34 |
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Indolent Bastard posted:Not creepy, but certainly odd. Holy crap. I didn't realise but apparently I have this 'condition' as bad as the OP. I thought it was just a mild thing for me. poo poo she's saying is creepy, but the sounds of that voice, oh my god... I'm not even attracted to women, sex honestly has nothing to do with it. Frankly it bothers me a little that she/they are playing up sexuality with this stuff because it's hard to enjoy it quite as much while she's perving.
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| # ? Jul 18, 2012 15:12 |
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Corridor posted:Holy crap. I didn't realise but apparently I have this 'condition' as bad as the OP. I thought it was just a mild thing for me. Just look around, there are loads of these videos and most of them are not overtly sexual. They can still be odd, especially if they are role-play videos, but at least they are not pseudo-sexual.
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| # ? Jul 18, 2012 15:21 |
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Indolent Bastard posted:Just look around, there are loads of these videos and most of them are not overtly sexual. They can still be odd, especially if they are role-play videos, but at least they are not pseudo-sexual. Yeah, some of them like Art Class or whatever it was are totally non sexual. Then you just have weird poo poo like that Love You Forever thing.
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| # ? Jul 18, 2012 15:28 |
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After reading this thread I started talking to my girlfriend about these insane people on the internet who tingle when they watch 15-minute long towel folding videos, and instead of laughing at you all she said "I get that too, I like to watch hair styling and makeup instruction videos." So I asked her if she wanted me to send her the towel one, and she said "no, I have my own videos that I like to watch." So I guess the whispering is coming from inside the house 
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| # ? Jul 18, 2012 15:31 |
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Welp I showed my friend this thread and told him I get this poo poo, and now he thinks I'm crazy.
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| # ? Jul 18, 2012 15:59 |
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Corridor posted:Holy crap. I didn't realise but apparently I have this 'condition' as bad as the OP. I thought it was just a mild thing for me. I went back and decided to skim through these again (well, the first two) since you mentioned it, and actually listened to the Star Wars one. Her accent is adorable and after scrubbing through a few more video game ones she's done, I have to admit the third video seems to be a fluke, but it's a fluke of  proportions. She's actually a huge dork by the sound of it, but one with a really interesting mix of accents that makes her dorkiness amusing.Also, welcome to the club, and... Corridor posted:Welp I showed my friend this thread and told him I get this poo poo, and now he thinks I'm crazy.
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| # ? Jul 18, 2012 19:24 |
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If you want to experience what frisson feels like, watch this trailer for the game 'Dear Esther'. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7VJ4lP-05A It also brings on very light ASMR for me, though that has more to do with the background noises and the way the man talks. Rambowjo fucked around with this message at Jul 18, 2012 around 20:07 |
| # ? Jul 18, 2012 19:33 |
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let it go dude, hail satan
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Guys I've had this since I was a kid but it only happens watch videos of people having sex. Also, the tingling is in my dick and not at the back of my head. Anyone else get this too?? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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| # ? Jul 18, 2012 21:03 |
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SamBishop posted:I went back and decided to skim through these again (well, the first two) since you mentioned it, and actually listened to the Star Wars one. Her accent is adorable and after scrubbing through a few more video game ones she's done, I have to admit the third video seems to be a fluke, but it's a fluke of I can't even remember what accent she had, to be honest. And I really don't care what she's into or what she looks like, have no desire to ever know her, and have no interest in that weird community. It's just that listening to the S and K sounds between all the soft whispering feels like getting an aural massage. It's like morphine in sound form. Or like tasting chocolate ice cream through my ears. I honestly don't know why I've never taken note of this stuff before. Now that I've listened to this, I remember lots of times when voices and sounds have had that effect on me. I just didn't bother storing it in short term memory. I guess I assumed it was just one of those things happened to everyone.
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| # ? Jul 18, 2012 21:19 |
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I get this all the time from soft spoken people. Glad I'm not crazy. I used one of those whispering videos to fall asleep last night. Slept like a baby.
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| # ? Jul 18, 2012 21:28 |
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One time I was packing for a wedding, so I smoked a joint and watched a 20 min video of an English butler guy explaining how to pack a suit into a suitcase. I guess it felt pretty good, but now I'm concerned that I might be AMSR-gay for soft-spoken English butlers? Gonna watch Remains of the Day and report back.
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| # ? Jul 18, 2012 21:35 |
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I think I know what feeling you're talking about. Does it also occur when you're very comfortable or relaxed?
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| # ? Jul 18, 2012 21:39 |
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I have to jump in, I've experienced this since I was a kid. My earliest memory of it is getting checked for lice in first grade. Doctor's or dentist's visits will do it, any one on one explanations or tests of any sort, and haircuts (especially with an electric shaver on the back of my head) will give me the numbing/tingling. I'm having a tough time finding a video that does it, but I've only tried late at night when I'm sleepy. Any sort of medical exam seems like the most promising, though. Also, sometimes as a result of this phenomenon my writing arm becomes numb and I find writing or drawing to be impossible. Once after a dental exam I couldn't sign my own name on a form. I get chills too, I can generate chills by thinking happy thoughts essentially, and it is a completely different sensation.
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| # ? Jul 19, 2012 12:51 |
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Lichy posted:I have experienced something similar while listening to my favorite songs and speeches, but this phenomenon really needs some qualified scientific attention. The first time I saw the acronym ASMR was on reddit and that's probably not a good thing. Reminds me of this video: (Indian Head Massage) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKXc...feature=related I go into a trance like I'm the guy getting the head massage. (Perhaps the same reason why I like watching videos of people getting earwax removed)
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| # ? Jul 19, 2012 13:14 |
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Yeah I get this, from music, from having my head shaved, from certain sounds, usually pumps, motors, that sort of thing. From certain types of contact. And yeah, weirdly, from people explaining stuff carefully or in a certain way. Certain people trigger it in me, maybe it is their voice or accent or something, I never thought about it. To be honest I never really gave it a second thought. I don't think it's some special snowflake thing or a condition or whatever, I'm pretty sure everyone gets it to some degree, even if they don't really realise it, and it's probably just some weird byproduct of how complex our brains are. I certainly don't think it warrants a loving support group, or even a name really. edit: I also get it sometimes when concentrating on doing a delicate task with my hands, usually when I start to get towards the end of the task. Also when coding. I think it's probably similar to the way that certain things make you "rush" when you're on MDMA, and those triggers can sometimes be really odd, unintuitive things too. Maybe it's just a milder version of that, your brain dumping serotonin into your bloodstream for some random reason. chippy fucked around with this message at Jul 19, 2012 around 13:52 |
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It's rare for this to happen to me outside of a few certain instances. I never really noticed it until I watched that shoe-shine video a few years ago and then another produced by the same people about ironing a shirt. Both produced the same reaction other people are describing. On another note, I started watching Parks & Rec shortly after all of this and found this to be a lot funnier because of it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGUkc9ajgiU Yes, before anyone says something, in the context of the show it's because he has a bunion, not ASMR or whatever.
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| # ? Jul 19, 2012 16:34 |
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chippy posted:I certainly don't think it warrants a loving support group, or even a name really. Everything warrants a name, that is what language is for.  Having a word to identify a thing, a name, makes it easier to talk about and easier to comprehend.
"Sometimes I get this thing where I'm in bed, I can't move, and wierd things happen. I am worried I might be under attack from demons, sex demons, aliens, elves, or ghosts." -- Don't worry, that is just sleep paralysis. It is a normal and kind of freaky thing our brains do. Our minds don't work the way we think they ought to work. There are all these weird, irrational side effects of consciousness. Giving the quirks labels and definitions makes them easier to talk about, and reassures those who experience it that they aren't crazy or broken. We don't need support groups for pareidolia or sleep paralysis because we have a name for them and mostly understand what they are. The name chosen by internet committee is dumb though. Acronyms make terrible names. They should have just gone with "brain tingle" in latin or something.
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| # ? Jul 19, 2012 19:00 |
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Callipygian Weasel posted:The problem is that I might describe the feeling of frisson or spine-tingling to you with exactly the words as you might explain whatever this is to me. Hell, until you get really extreme, I'd wager it is difficult NOT to relate sensory descriptions to one's own experiences when no trigger is mentioned. So yes, I would call cognitive bias a significant issue there. Sorry I missed this response before, and I hope this doesn't come off as arguing, since like you said, bias isn't just possible, it's likely given how much of this can come off as subjective. What's worse, the only counter I have to your point is that it's something that's fairly limited; people that get the "brain tingles" are also people that (I hope) get the frisson tingles. It happens to me all the time from really big moments in some swelling chorus movie scene or epic build music or something else. But it's a separate response, and it can be described separately by folks that feel both. I think the big difference is that nearly everyone can understand the feeling, the emotional response from hearing a really rousing speech or seeing a wayward couple finally meeting each other or a really perfectly orchestrated, aurally pregnant music piece hit a crescendo. That, though, isn't quite what we're talking about. This is something weirdly disconnected from emotion (at least on a trigger level) or arousal or any of the other normal body functions. It's a strange kind of involuntary reaction that triggers different impulses and sensations from the normal kind of body reactions. Others can certainly correct me if I'm wrong, but it feels almost like something completely divorced from the normal impulses and reactions that you get from the senses. The creeping tingles are completely and utterly different -- particularly when they're strong and roll at you in waves from the triggers -- than anything you feel from any other reaction. That might be why it's so easily divorced from normal goosebumps or something (at least for me). The overwhelming response I've seen in this thread has been that the descriptive recounting of the actual sensation is that it's not the same as getting goosebumps or a shiver; it's like your brain is being tickled from within, but coupled with wonderful, intense relaxation. That's in stark contrast to frisson, where the impulse is actually to tighten up or catch your breath or shudder or well up a little with tears. That's emotional. This is decidedly disconnected, yet wonderfully joyful. I think it might be impossible to explain, but the last thing I want to come off as is some kind of dick that is saying, "well, you just don't get it, man." That's not it at all, and maybe folks that do understand that goosebumpy feeling you get from seeing/hearing something emotionally stirring can do a better job than I of explaining why it feels different. The last thing I want to do is make this whole thing more insular.
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| # ? Jul 20, 2012 11:48 |
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Angela Christine posted:Everything warrants a name, that is what language is for. OK yeah, point taken on the name thing though. However I would argue that sleep paralysis probably could warrant a support group, since in extreme cases it can be quite traumatic and scary and have a significant impact on sleep quality for people. If ASMR is going to have a name though, it needs a better name.
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| # ? Jul 20, 2012 11:51 |
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chippy posted:If ASMR is going to have a name though, it needs a better name. Preach, brutha. "Brain tingles" might sound silly, but it's actually a pretty apt way of describing how it feels. "ASMR" is a bunch of bullshitty, non-medical words strung together that, for better or worse, at least helped people agree on a common term that seems fairly accurate in how it describes the phenomenon. Thing is, if (when?) you describe it to your doctor, what words are you going to use? "Bring tingles" sure as hell makes a lot more sense, and has been said previously, trying to concoct a goofy faux-scientific name is only going to make it look more amateurish.
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Thing is, why would you tell your doctor about it? Out of interest, does anyone here who has it feel it has a negative impact on their life, or consider it a health problem?
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