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homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007








Available now in the 3DS/DSi eShop for $8/800 points

Petit Computer is a nostalgia-fueled, BASIC-powered fever dream brought to you by the good people at Smileboom. Spritually, Petitcom is the reincarnation of mid-80s Japanese PCs such as the MSX and PC-6001. Technically, however, the machine provides a number of luxuries not enjoyed by actual 80s programmers and is closer in power to early 16-bit PCs/consoles. What does this mean for you? As a user: a shitload of bootleg NES and 80s computer games. As a developer: a fairly reasonable environment in which to make bootleg NES and 80s computer games.

Included are about 20 sample programs, games, and editing tools (all with source), a comprehensive manual, and a text-editor that works about as well as you'd expect a DS-based text-editor to. Useful in a pinch, but check out PTCUtilities for a slightly friendlier alternative.

Petit Computer programs are shared primarily via (dozens of) QR codes. To generate a QR code of your game, export your files to the SD card through the file management menu and use either the online QR code converter or PTCUtilities. Be sure to post your terrible ripoffs wonderfully original creations in this thread for everyone to enjoy.


  • MOTHERFUCKING TREK
  • Horror Dungeon. Very contemporary maze-game with an interesting gimmick, think Pac-Man or Amidar.
  • Missile Command!
  • Damaxian. Totally not Galaxian, no way.
  • Tristones. Side scrolly RPG kind of thing.
  • PX7. Not a game, but a very Korg-like synthesizer app. Fun to play around with and potentially useful if you're looking for a particular sound for your hot chiptune jams.
  • Arduino Petit. Another synthesizer app with an interesting interface.
  • Another synthesizer. This one is a sequencer that looks an awful lot like Mario Paint.
Here are a few decent places to look for games:


homeless snail fucked around with this message at Jul 24, 2012 around 14:12

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Potsticker
Jan 13, 2006

Coin? What coin?



Double Edit: Missed the link in the OP because homeless snail is smarter than me.

This site: http://micutil.com/ptcutilities/top_e.html is a cool utility suite for making/editing Petit Computer stuff on a PC or Mac.

Potsticker fucked around with this message at Jul 19, 2012 around 21:22

absolutely anything
Dec 28, 2006

I am the man!

Bought this even though I haven't messed with BASIC since I was a kid. It's fun re-learning all this stuff and makin' dumb poo poo. Maybe soon I'll remember how to make stuff good enough to actually show!

Ignite Memories
Feb 27, 2005

White Widow.


Gob's Program: Y/N?

Hob_Gadling
Jul 6, 2007

One of our barley fields has begun to whisper forbidden secrets during the night.

Why is Outrun labeled as "driving game"?

This looks pretty cool. Any idea if any C-64 remakes are happening? Zoids, Nemesis the Warlock and Airborne Ranger need to live again.

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007



I just thought it was hilarious the guy never actually refers to it as Outrun. Totally original Driving Game.

pw pw pw posted:

Gob's Program: Y/N?
How did you guess my second choice for thread title

Potsticker
Jan 13, 2006

Coin? What coin?


homeless snail posted:

I just thought it was hilarious the guy never actually refers to it as Outrun. Totally original Driving Game.


I think it was more for copyright reasons. The same reason that TREK has Klilians instead of Klingons.

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

Big Games Poster


I really hope this gets a PAL release.

Face Melter
May 24, 2009


I NEED a roguelike for this. I've seen a video but no QR code for it. Anyone come across one yet?

JumbocactuarX27
Jan 9, 2011


Face Melter posted:

I NEED a roguelike for this. I've seen a video but no QR code for it. Anyone come across one yet?

Can you link the video? Or at least post the title for it?

Maybe they didn't post QR codes anywhere, but maybe they did.

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007



Gamebridge is a European publisher, right? I'd be shocked if they don't eventually get it out in PAL.

Also, looks like they disabled the voice synth in the English version. TALK command is still there for compatibility purposes, but it doesn't actually produce any sound

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

Big Games Poster


Yeah, they had copyright issues with the voice synthesiser so they had to cut it from the international release.

There's a Japanese wiki with a ton of games here, in case anyone feels like trawling through it.

Face Melter
May 24, 2009


JumbocactuarX27 posted:

Can you link the video? Or at least post the title for it?

Maybe they didn't post QR codes anywhere, but maybe they did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjGXULXctqw

that's the link I found googling around. No luck on source or QR yet.

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007



Face Melter posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjGXULXctqw

that's the link I found googling around. No luck on source or QR yet.
That's a super vague title, "Puchikon Roguelike". This is the only thing I can find, but its not actually a game. Just generates a dungeon and prints it out in ASCII.

Here's the larger problem, though: The first release of Petitcom didn't actually have a way to share programs beyond manually transcribing the source. PetitcomMk2, the version that we're using, only came out in Japan about 4 months ago. So almost any program you see dated before March 2012 probably does not exist in a downloadable format, unless the author took the effort to buy mk2, convert their mk1 files, and then export a bunch of QRs.

JumbocactuarX27
Jan 9, 2011


homeless snail posted:

That's a super vague title, "Puchikon Roguelike". This is the only thing I can find, but its not actually a game. Just generates a dungeon and prints it out in ASCII.

Here's the larger problem, though: The first release of Petitcom didn't actually have a way to share programs beyond manually transcribing the source. PetitcomMk2, the version that we're using, only came out in Japan about 4 months ago. So almost any program you see dated before March 2012 probably does not exist in a downloadable format, unless the author took the effort to buy mk2, convert their mk1 files, and then export a bunch of QRs.

Well, is there anything to stop us from just copying the code from a website, plopping it into PTCUtilities and exporting QR codes for the good of all?

On a barely related note, I feel dumb asking this but is there a way to type in capital letters in the PTCUtilities program editor?

Potsticker
Jan 13, 2006

Coin? What coin?


JumbocactuarX27 posted:

Well, is there anything to stop us from just copying the code from a website, plopping it into PTCUtilities and exporting QR codes for the good of all?

On a barely related note, I feel dumb asking this but is there a way to type in capital letters in the PTCUtilities program editor?

Just using the shift key seems to type capital letters just fine for me.

Color Printer
May 9, 2011

You get used to it. I don't even see the code. All I see is Ipecac, Scapular, Polyphemus...



This did exactly what I expected it to do and it did not disappoint

Picked this thing up and I am so ready to start making poo poo with it. But for now, I grapple once again with Minesweeper. I shall be the victor

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

MORT


God, I haven't used BASIC in years. Let's see how much I've forgotten.

JumbocactuarX27
Jan 9, 2011


Potsticker posted:

Just using the shift key seems to type capital letters just fine for me.

Cool, just my computer I guess. All I get is lower case unless I copy paste capitals in. I'll figure it out later.

In the meantime, this guy made Scorched Earth a tank shooting game!

Color Printer
May 9, 2011

You get used to it. I don't even see the code. All I see is Ipecac, Scapular, Polyphemus...


So were they not able to do voice synthesis in time? I can't find documentation on TALK, TALKCHK() or TALKSTOP. It's on the alphabetical list of commands online, but not on the one in the in-game manual, even though voice synthesis is mentioned. And TALK "test" doesn't seem to do anything. I got all excited

Also, the manual: holy poo poo who translated that. Some parts are alright but some are...

"Label Character String - Charactor strings model variable containing the lavel name which starts with @ mark."



(I figured out what this meant eventually...it's talking about labels for GOTOs.)

EDIT: Yep, under the Sound tables online there's information about TALK, but it's not there in-game, yet voice synthesis is mentioned in the manual and the TALK commands still show up on the command guide. They just don't do anything.

So yeah. Great job guys. I am stupid and can't read! Oh well.

Color Printer fucked around with this message at Jul 20, 2012 around 02:09

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007



Color Printer posted:

So were they not able to do voice synthesis in time? I can't find documentation on TALK, TALKCHK() or TALKSTOP. It's on the alphabetical list of commands online, but not on the one in the in-game manual, even though voice synthesis is mentioned. And TALK "test" doesn't seem to do anything. I got all excited

PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

Yeah, they had copyright issues with the voice synthesiser so they had to cut it from the international release.
The commands are stubbed out so Japanese programs won't spit out syntax errors. The synth could only pronounce kana anyway, so you'd have to transliterate everything.

Original_Z
Jun 14, 2005
Z so good

[quote="homeless snail" post="405756687"]

[*]The developer of Quest has a handful of other bootlegs on his site

Anyone have any luck reading the QR codes here? That Wiki site is fine, but maybe it's the pink background or something but I can't get any of the games to read.

Potsticker
Jan 13, 2006

Coin? What coin?


Original_Z posted:


Anyone have any luck reading the QR codes here? That Wiki site is fine, but maybe it's the pink background or something but I can't get any of the games to read.

I've gotten programs from both the wiki and the quest guy's site working fine. What I do is zoom in on the sites pretty large, and make sure my hands are steady and even the 32 code programs seem to go pretty quick. Unfortunately, I don't have many good recommendations. So far the RUNAWAY game from the wiki has been the most fun.

That Quest game, though, I don't know what sort of projection the guy is using for the 3D effects, but it makes it near impossible to navigate the maze.

Original_Z
Jun 14, 2005
Z so good

I guess keeping with that, does anyone have any game recommendations? I played a bunch of random ones from the wiki and they're pretty trash.

JumbocactuarX27
Jan 9, 2011


Original_Z posted:

I guess keeping with that, does anyone have any game recommendations? I played a bunch of random ones from the wiki and they're pretty trash.

The smileboom official site has good programs which may be more what you're after. I went through a lot of the wiki games last night and the 2 player tank shooting game I linked earlier was good, but my favorite is Horror Dungeon. I can't play it for poo poo, but it feels the most like a polished game.

RadicalR
Jan 20, 2008

"Businessmen are the symbol of a free society
---
the symbol of America."


JumbocactuarX27 posted:

The smileboom official site has good programs which may be more what you're after. I went through a lot of the wiki games last night and the 2 player tank shooting game I linked earlier was good, but my favorite is Horror Dungeon. I can't play it for poo poo, but it feels the most like a polished game.


Thanks for that - feels like one of those arcade games!

Potsticker
Jan 13, 2006

Coin? What coin?


Horror Dungeon is certainly the most professional game I've tried so far. Both in terms of presentation and in controls. Trek, if you haven't tried it, is pretty amazing. Mostly in presentation. I do wonder why they decided to use the E and K designations instead of making a font set or using the little pictures of aliens and such that the font already provides.

I may just hack it myself to do that, actually...

JumbocactuarX27
Jan 9, 2011


Potsticker posted:

Horror Dungeon is certainly the most professional game I've tried so far. Both in terms of presentation and in controls. Trek, if you haven't tried it, is pretty amazing. Mostly in presentation. I do wonder why they decided to use the E and K designations instead making a font set or using the little pictures of aliens and such that the font already provides.

I may just hack it myself to do that, actually...

If you do, post the qr codes here, please. I was thinking about translating the small amount of text in Horror Dungeon, myself. If I do I'll post codes here, but it'll have to wait for next month when there isn't a game dev contest going on.

RadicalR
Jan 20, 2008

"Businessmen are the symbol of a free society
---
the symbol of America."


Now there's an interesting idea. I wonder if one of the future themes for a game dev comp could be Petit Computer?

Wikipedia Brown
Aug 4, 2004

Star Trek:
The Motion Picture


This poo poo is pretty fascinating. I don't think I have the patience to learn things anymore, but I'll certainly benefit from the labor of others!

Potsticker
Jan 13, 2006

Coin? What coin?


The wiki has a pretty good Wizardry clone, but even though you can create characters and walk around in the dungeon-- it's completely unfinished. There are no encounters and you can't equip the party. Too bad, too, because it looks pretty much exactly as I remember.

RadicalR
Jan 20, 2008

"Businessmen are the symbol of a free society
---
the symbol of America."


Potsticker posted:

The wiki has a pretty good Wizardry clone, but even though you can create characters and walk around in the dungeon-- it's completely unfinished. There are no encounters and you can't equip the party. Too bad, too, because it looks pretty much exactly as I remember.

Hmm, the source code is probably available, so anyone in theory could pick it up.

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007



Oh wow, Horror Dungeon is great. Is this based on something else? Its definitely the kind of weird game I could see myself playing on a C64 or something.

RadicalR posted:

Hmm, the source code is probably available, so anyone in theory could pick it up.
Go into run mode, type LOAD "<name of program>" and then hit the edit button to see source of anything you download
Or you can just toss the QRs into PTCUtilities.

Potsticker
Jan 13, 2006

Coin? What coin?


homeless snail posted:


Go into run mode, type LOAD "<name of program>" and then hit the edit button to see source of anything you download
Or you can just toss the QRs into PTCUtilities.

Do you need the prefix? I've been loading things as, using WIZ as an example:

LOAD "PRG:WIZ"

and that seems to work fine. Similarly

SAVE "PRG:WIZ" to save things.

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007



I think it defaults to PRG if you don't specify one.

JumbocactuarX27
Jan 9, 2011


Potsticker posted:

Do you need the prefix? I've been loading things as, using WIZ as an example:

LOAD "PRG:WIZ"

and that seems to work fine. Similarly

SAVE "PRG:WIZ" to save things.

I've been loading things as just:

LOAD"WIZ

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007



Cave flyers are Way Cool. So I made one.

Unfortunately mine turned out decidedly less than Way Cool. I ran into some limitations with GRP's fill rate that really constrained how quickly I could scroll the screen. Turns out its best to think of GRP as a vector layer rather than bitmap.

homeless snail
Mar 14, 2007



Through the first semblance of an English Petitcom community, I found this awesome thing:

Its a very Korgy kind of synthesizer that gives you full access to all the sounds you can make in MML. Has a KAOSS pad and everything. Unfortunately it doesn't look like it has a sequencer, but that's fine by me because I'm like half finished writing a MML tracker anyway. Thing is like 60 QRs long, but its a fun little toy to play around with.

RadicalR
Jan 20, 2008

"Businessmen are the symbol of a free society
---
the symbol of America."


Missle Command

http://d.hatena.ne.jp/eidaht/20120720/1342750013#c

Good stuff!

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SereneCrimson
Oct 10, 2007

I am the morning sun, come to vanquish this horrible night!


I ended picking this up despite not knowing a drat thing about BASIC.

Perhaps I'll learn something along the way, but for now, I'll settle for playing other peoples kickass creations/rip-offs/ports.

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