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ClownBabby
Mar 20, 2004



Norse Code posted:

I totally ripped my callous off the other day and it's red and bloody underneath. I've been letting it air out but should I wait to deadlift again?? I want to

Super glue it down and then tape it (let the glue dry first). I'll try and find a diagram of how you're supposed to tape it but you need to cut a hole in the tape, stick the closest finger to the callous through the hole and then bring that piece of tape down long enough to wrap another piece of tape around the wrist or bottom of the hand to secure it. That's the only way that stays on.

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creatine
Jan 27, 2012

Train like a monster,
Eat like an animal,
Sleep like a baby.


fortryllende posted:

Super glue it down and then tape it (let the glue dry first). I'll try and find a diagram of how you're supposed to tape it but you need to cut a hole in the tape, stick the closest finger to the callous through the hole and then bring that piece of tape down long enough to wrap another piece of tape around the wrist or bottom of the hand to secure it. That's the only way that stays on.
Seconding this. Donny Shankle has a good video on YouTube about hand care.

Irving
Jun 21, 2003


So I've noticed that when I do my working sets in squats, right when I hit parallel my left hip shoots out so that it's like I'm popping my butt out. Any idea why this is? Any ideas of how I can stop doing it?

J Miracle
Mar 25, 2010
It took 32 years, but I finally figured out push-ups!

Irving posted:

So I've noticed that when I do my working sets in squats, right when I hit parallel my left hip shoots out so that it's like I'm popping my butt out. Any idea why this is? Any ideas of how I can stop doing it?

Deliberately pop your butt out evenly?

The Doctor
Jul 8, 2007

The angels have my snatch

Ok, this is disgusting, I'm disgusting, but if my callouses bleed when I lift I just rub a load of chalk into them and carry on.

megalodong
Mar 11, 2008

u are just sooo special 2 me i feel like this cat everytime i look into ur eyez
SIMPLY MESMERIZED


The Doctor posted:

Ok, this is disgusting, I'm disgusting, but if my callouses bleed when I lift I just rub a load of chalk into them and carry on.

It's also a health hazard and pretty inconsiderate to anyone unlucky enough to have to use the bar after you too!

Notitia
Dec 21, 2004


Hey ladies, back with more questions from my wife.

She's totally allergic to dairy (whey, casien, milk, butter, you name it...) and is having a hard time coming up with a nutrition plan that meets the general calorie, protein, fat, and carb requirements.

Anyone have any specific meal recommendations that are dairy free for a lady trying to drop from 152 to about 135-140 who lifts 3 days a week and does cardio 3 days a week?

Esmerelda
Dec 1, 2009


Notitia posted:

Hey ladies, back with more questions from my wife.

She's totally allergic to dairy (whey, casien, milk, butter, you name it...) and is having a hard time coming up with a nutrition plan that meets the general calorie, protein, fat, and carb requirements.

Anyone have any specific meal recommendations that are dairy free for a lady trying to drop from 152 to about 135-140 who lifts 3 days a week and does cardio 3 days a week?
Stuff made with chicken, tuna (fish in general), pork, eggs, beans, quinoa and red meat. There are various throw it in a crockpot and wait recipes as well as stir fry stuff or just saute and add to veggies some rice/pasta things.

I can actually eat cheese but the high protein go-to of greek yoghurt kills me. So, to meet my daily protein goals I eat a lot of meat. On salads, as sandwiches, in wraps, on rice or noodles or even just with a ton of veggies. There's really not a lot I'd recommend specifically other than "eat meat".

The Doctor
Jul 8, 2007

The angels have my snatch

megalodong posted:

It's also a health hazard and pretty inconsiderate to anyone unlucky enough to have to use the bar after you too!

As with all of the gym equipment I use, my Olympic barbell is rubbed down with a sanitizing wipe before and after each use.

Rurutia
Jun 11, 2009


Notitia posted:

Hey ladies, back with more questions from my wife.

She's totally allergic to dairy (whey, casien, milk, butter, you name it...) and is having a hard time coming up with a nutrition plan that meets the general calorie, protein, fat, and carb requirements.

Anyone have any specific meal recommendations that are dairy free for a lady trying to drop from 152 to about 135-140 who lifts 3 days a week and does cardio 3 days a week?

You can check out my log for what I eat, your wife is about where I was when I started. But it really is what Esmerelda says. I can't even really eat quinoa, pork, or beans regularly because they have too much 'non-protein' for me to make my calorie limit and my protein limit. So I just eat a lot of leafy veggies with chicken and shrimp (I go through a couple lbs of raw spinach every week). Less fatty varieties of fish works too (cod and tuna are good, salmon is very fatty).
For most of this, I pound or slice thinly, then broil or grill (or even pan fry but without extra oil). (Obviously don't slice or pound the fish, fish is best rare anyways.) Stir fry shirataki noodles (do this properly with mirin, soy, and fish sauce) is very filling and very low cal. Check out the Swole Pantry for more ideas.

VVV I should mention that I don't believe in drinking your calories in low calorie diets for satiety issues.

Rurutia fucked around with this message at Aug 16, 2012 around 23:34

Psychobabble!
Jun 22, 2010

Ask me about getting toned!


Besides what esmerelda mentioned, there's also protein powders without dairy(soy and rice are some of them, I think). Google lactose free protein powder and shop around.

Notitia
Dec 21, 2004


Psychobabble! posted:

Besides what esmerelda mentioned, there's also protein powders without dairy(soy and rice are some of them, I think). Google lactose free protein powder and shop around.

Yeah we get her soy isolate powder bulk from winco. Most of the soy protein powders we've found actually have dairy products in them for the flavoring, kinda sucks.

Psychobabble!
Jun 22, 2010

Ask me about getting toned!


megalodong posted:

It's also a health hazard and pretty inconsiderate to anyone unlucky enough to have to use the bar after you too!

Personally I like to spit on the bars and plates when I'm using them to assert dominance.

facey fred
Sep 17, 2007
quite facey

Rurutia posted:

I should mention that I don't believe in drinking your calories in low calorie diets for satiety issues.

Protein powder also goes well in actual food like yogurt and oatmeal.

thebehaviorist
Jan 11, 2009


Notitia posted:

Yeah we get her soy isolate powder bulk from winco. Most of the soy protein powders we've found actually have dairy products in them for the flavoring, kinda sucks.

If you don't want to use soy all the time, I use Plant Fusion protein powder because it's free of all the major allergens (soy, dairy, gluten, nuts). I really enjoy it and it mixes well with water and other milk alternatives. Last time I checked it was available on Amazon with prime shipping.

The Doctor
Jul 8, 2007

The angels have my snatch

Psychobabble! posted:

Personally I like to spit on the bars and plates when I'm using them to assert dominance.

Well if we're being honest here, I find the best way to keep others off my platform is to just urinate around the entire thing. Dragging around the carcass of anything I've killed recently also helps.

Shine
Feb 26, 2007

HUP HUP HUP HUP HUP HUP


The Doctor posted:

Dragging around the carcass of anything I've killed recently also helps.

Like your boyfriend's gains?


Kidding.

Montezuma Zubaz
Aug 13, 2010

Houdini didn't die of AIDS! Why do you always say that?

Hey Gang: Long time lurker, first time poster. I know this is probably a silly question but... wine? Vino? Booze? Do any of you have advanced diet plans that include/exclude alcoholic beverages?

I've taken a break from lifting for a while and would like to start again with the caveat of being a bit more responsible about my diet. So, those who have made tremendous gains (and so many of you have made incredible accomplishments:) have you cut alcohol completely from your diet?

ladyweapon
Nov 6, 2010

It reads all over his face,
like he's an Italian.


Dambroz posted:

Hey Gang: Long time lurker, first time poster. I know this is probably a silly question but... wine? Vino? Booze? Do any of you have advanced diet plans that include/exclude alcoholic beverages?

I've taken a break from lifting for a while and would like to start again with the caveat of being a bit more responsible about my diet. So, those who have made tremendous gains (and so many of you have made incredible accomplishments:) have you cut alcohol completely from your diet?

I drink like a fish and my lifts are pretty nice. Alcohol does hinder fat loss if thats what you're going for since, iirc, the body burns alcohol for fuel before it burns anything else. It's not good for you, per se, but as long as you're drinking in moderation its not a huge deal.

e: vv I was bad at squatting for like the first year of lifting. I'm still bad at it if you ask my knees lately

ladyweapon fucked around with this message at Aug 17, 2012 around 04:45

Hawkgirl
Jun 20, 2003

Jesus Died for Your Songs

I learned how to squat today!!!! I'm really bad at it but I'm still excited!!

Sharks Below
May 23, 2011

ty hc <3


I'm still terrible at it and it's been six months. In fact I'm thinking I might take some form videos for SA Form Check thread to have a chortle over tomorrow

Anne Elk
Feb 23, 2011


Psychobabble! posted:

Besides what esmerelda mentioned, there's also protein powders without dairy(soy and rice are some of them, I think). Google lactose free protein powder and shop around.

Egg, too! It's usually more expensive but pretty high quality.

Padonka
Feb 14, 2012


Dambroz posted:

Hey Gang: Long time lurker, first time poster. I know this is probably a silly question but... wine? Vino? Booze? Do any of you have advanced diet plans that include/exclude alcoholic beverages?

I've taken a break from lifting for a while and would like to start again with the caveat of being a bit more responsible about my diet. So, those who have made tremendous gains (and so many of you have made incredible accomplishments:) have you cut alcohol completely from your diet?

I don't drink (though I cook with it and am not opposed to those who do drink or any such nonsense), but I have to say that HAD I been a drinker, I probably would have cut it out anyway. For me I'd MUCH rather eat my calories than drink them. That even applies now to other beverages and I drink a lot of water/coffee/tea as a result.

So gains/loss possibilities aside, I'd rather eat than drink.

The Doctor
Jul 8, 2007

The angels have my snatch

Dambroz posted:

Hey Gang: Long time lurker, first time poster. I know this is probably a silly question but... wine? Vino? Booze? Do any of you have advanced diet plans that include/exclude alcoholic beverages?

I've taken a break from lifting for a while and would like to start again with the caveat of being a bit more responsible about my diet. So, those who have made tremendous gains (and so many of you have made incredible accomplishments:) have you cut alcohol completely from your diet?

I cut it completely. Initially to lose weight and then just based on principle. 2 years sober, no regrets.

Corrode
Apr 24, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 47 hours!


Dambroz posted:

Hey Gang: Long time lurker, first time poster. I know this is probably a silly question but... wine? Vino? Booze? Do any of you have advanced diet plans that include/exclude alcoholic beverages?

I've taken a break from lifting for a while and would like to start again with the caveat of being a bit more responsible about my diet. So, those who have made tremendous gains (and so many of you have made incredible accomplishments:) have you cut alcohol completely from your diet?

All I did was cut out casual drinking. Every few weeks I'll go out or have a house party or something and get royally hosed up but the 'have a couple drinks every other night' disappeared and I think it's a pretty healthy balance.

muscat_gummy
Nov 30, 2008


I cut out most drinking and have maybe a drink every other week. I noticed more gains after I did so but it was probably because I was sleeping better/more and not lifting while terribly hungover all the time. Drinking in moderation should be ok; I was getting hammered at least 5x a week though.

ClydeFrog
Apr 13, 2007

Jesus Suffering Fuck how can running for 3 minutes BE SO HARD.

The Doctor posted:

Ok, this is disgusting, I'm disgusting, but if my callouses bleed when I lift I just rub a load of chalk into them and carry on.

Unless you're dumb like me, squirt a load of liquid chalk on your hand and then fall to your knees crying like a baby as the alcohol makes merry with the raw wound.

ClownBabby
Mar 20, 2004



Dambroz posted:

Hey Gang: Long time lurker, first time poster. I know this is probably a silly question but... wine? Vino? Booze? Do any of you have advanced diet plans that include/exclude alcoholic beverages?

I've taken a break from lifting for a while and would like to start again with the caveat of being a bit more responsible about my diet. So, those who have made tremendous gains (and so many of you have made incredible accomplishments:) have you cut alcohol completely from your diet?

I've tried to go mostly sober for the past few months, mostly because I am trying to cut some weight, and because I really felt like it was interfering with my lifting. It's definitely helped. Upshot is that you always wake up feeling awesome.

IdeoPhanthus
Oct 22, 2004



I have some questions. We (husband & I) just joined a gym for a month & did our first day on wednesday. I went for the stripped 5x5 routine & did squats, bench press, pull ups then. All they have are olympic bars (45lb?). I managed ok with squats. But just 1 rep of bench seemed too much for a full set, let alone 5, so i switched to using one of the shorter preweighted bars (30lb total). While benching my husband kept telling me i had the bar too far to the right, but it looked centered from my angle, & my hands were the same distance from the center. Every time he corrected it i felt like my right arm was straight up & my left was angled out to my left side (maybe just a muscle imbalance made it feel like that).

My first question, how far apart are my hands supposed to be on the bar for those lifts (and deadlifts)? Or does it not really matter too much?

My other question is about deadlifts. Can i use the preweighted bars for those too? I dont think i can do anything with weight added to the olympic barbells yet, so if i want to start out light & add weight for each set, it seems like the preweighted is my only option for now.

Today is deads, bent-over rows, and shoulder press. These first 2 days should give me a baseline for next week at least, so i know what weight to attempt for my final sets. Except for squats. Im sure i will be stuck at just the bar with those for a while, partially due to balance, and partially to the weight of it (sets 3&4 i only squeaked out 3 reps, and set 4 i got out 4 reps).

Eggplant Wizard
Jul 8, 2005

I was getting sick of seeing that.


Smaller barbells are fine for any of those. Getting the form down is more important than lifting heavier, at first. Bench especially is hard to move up on so starting lower than the 45lb bar is fine. "Just the bar" is still heavy as gently caress for a beginner. If you can manage to squat with the big bar though you can probably deadlift it. On DL's you should be using your hamstrings and butt, not arms (okay arms happen but they're not the focus), which are the same enormous muscles as on a squat uses, and honestly I find I can do DL's a little heavier than my squats.

Norse Code
Mar 9, 2007

Sir! A message from Bentham!


IdeoPhanthus posted:

bench press hand width

Well it kind of depends. Mostly for a normal bench you'll want your hands about shoulder width apart. You can put your hands close together for a Close Grip Bench if you want to work on triceps or put your hands wider than normal to work your chest more.

Bluff
Oct 7, 2009

YOU STUPID ASSHOLES


IdeoPhanthus posted:

I have some questions. We (husband & I) just joined a gym for a month & did our first day on wednesday. I went for the stripped 5x5 routine & did squats, bench press, pull ups then. All they have are olympic bars (45lb?). I managed ok with squats. But just 1 rep of bench seemed too much for a full set, let alone 5, so i switched to using one of the shorter preweighted bars (30lb total). While benching my husband kept telling me i had the bar too far to the right, but it looked centered from my angle, & my hands were the same distance from the center. Every time he corrected it i felt like my right arm was straight up & my left was angled out to my left side (maybe just a muscle imbalance made it feel like that).

My first question, how far apart are my hands supposed to be on the bar for those lifts (and deadlifts)? Or does it not really matter too much?

My other question is about deadlifts. Can i use the preweighted bars for those too? I dont think i can do anything with weight added to the olympic barbells yet, so if i want to start out light & add weight for each set, it seems like the preweighted is my only option for now.

Today is deads, bent-over rows, and shoulder press. These first 2 days should give me a baseline for next week at least, so i know what weight to attempt for my final sets. Except for squats. Im sure i will be stuck at just the bar with those for a while, partially due to balance, and partially to the weight of it (sets 3&4 i only squeaked out 3 reps, and set 4 i got out 4 reps).

Try different positions. Generally, wider puts more load on your shoulders, but it means less range of motion, and more chest activation.

Closer, puts less load on your shoulders but greatly increases the range of motion and puts more load on your triceps.

People normally hurt their shoulders early on due to too much weight, move closer and closer, and then severely injure their shoulders because although this 'feels' better, the increased ROM is bad when the weight starts to move up and your shoulder can't handle it.

If you don't have any pre-existing shoulder problems, warm up your shoulders and go as wide as feels comfortable. If you think there's an inbalence, try dumbbell bench.

For deadlifts: your arms should be as close together as manageable, it makes for a shorter (easier) pull. Think just outside (Thank MM) of your legs. Practice with a broomstick at home, but the good news is that if you can squat an olympic bar, you can probably deadlift it with good form. Put it on some blocks (so it's the correct height) and go hog wild. Here's an example of great deadlifting form, think 'CHEST UP' the whole lift:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJUiF0UIeu8

Bluff fucked around with this message at Aug 17, 2012 around 15:47

Marshmallow Mayhem
Oct 9, 2009

Fun for everyone!


Bluff posted:


For deadlifts: your arms should be as close together as manageable, it makes for a shorter (easier) pull. Think just inside of your legs. Practice with a broomstick at home, but the good news is that if you can squat an olympic bar, you can probably deadlift it with good form. Put it on some blocks (so it's the correct height) and go hog wild. Here's an example of great deadlifting form, think 'CHEST UP' the whole lift:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJUiF0UIeu8

Just to add onto this, he probably just typoed but arms outside legs not inside, and legs should be shoulder with or narrower for deadlifts, just grab wherever's comfortable outside of there, right next to your knees/thighs is fine, just don't get in your own way.
For squats feet should be shoulder width or wider.

Knees should always track over your toes if they go forward at all, but try to keep your weight on your heels to use your butt/back for lifts, not bending forward putting weight on toes/knees.

You could do dumbbell bench press for a bit to try to even out your lifts, it's quite likely it's an imbalance.

It's totally fine to use those preweighted bars for stuff, the only thing that sucks is sometimes they don't have the ribbing marks on them so you can tell even distance with your hands. Once you can warm up with 10 lb, 25lb, 35lb or 45lb plates on the olympic bar, use that, but it's totally a bother to switch them ever single time, restack plates, etc, to get the bar at the right height.

Notitia
Dec 21, 2004


Anne Elk posted:

Egg, too! It's usually more expensive but pretty high quality.

Yeah straight egg protein powder is pretty pricey. We're poor college students trying not to starve.

pastor of muppets
Aug 21, 2007

The fun machine took a shit and died


So today i was literally seconds away from busting into a full-blown, crying, blubbering, PMS-fueled, makeup-running-down-the-face, why-does-nobody-love-me tantrum in the middle of the weight room because my grip strength sucks and my deadlifts are suffering big time because of it.

Normal, right?

pastor of muppets fucked around with this message at Aug 17, 2012 around 19:53

Norse Code
Mar 9, 2007

Sir! A message from Bentham!


pastor of muppets posted:

So tody i was literally seconds away from busting into a full-blown, crying, blubbering, PMS-fueled, makeup-running-down-the-face, why-does-nobody-love-me tantrum in the middle of the weight room because my grip strength sucks and my deadlifts are suffering big time because of it.

Normal, right?

That sounds about right.

Shine
Feb 26, 2007

HUP HUP HUP HUP HUP HUP


Chalk, mixed grip, straps once grip fails.

The last point gets a lot of flack from some macho dumbasses, but there's no point in letting your grip hold back the rest of your body.

cheese eats mouse
Jul 6, 2007


pastor of muppets posted:

So today i was literally seconds away from busting into a full-blown, crying, blubbering, PMS-fueled, makeup-running-down-the-face, why-does-nobody-love-me tantrum in the middle of the weight room because my grip strength sucks and my deadlifts are suffering big time because of it.

Normal, right?

Holding the rep for a few seconds at the top of every rep has helped me tremendously. My grip hasn't failed yet through this method. This plus mixed grip and then chalk should help.

My grip must be freakish because I've broken two light bulbs with my bare hands just grabbing them firmly.

Now I'm wondering if my handshakes at interviews are too firm. They must think I'm going to crush their hand.

cheese eats mouse fucked around with this message at Aug 17, 2012 around 20:22

IdeoPhanthus
Oct 22, 2004



Marshmallow Mayhem posted:

Just to add onto this, he probably just typoed but arms outside legs not inside, and legs should be shoulder with or narrower for deadlifts, just grab wherever's comfortable outside of there, right next to your knees/thighs is fine, just don't get in your own way.
For squats feet should be shoulder width or wider.

Knees should always track over your toes if they go forward at all, but try to keep your weight on your heels to use your butt/back for lifts, not bending forward putting weight on toes/knees.

You could do dumbbell bench press for a bit to try to even out your lifts, it's quite likely it's an imbalance.

Thanks for the help guys. We just got back a little while ago (were there alot longer than expected because I locked my keys in my car).

There's no set spot for deadlifts (and really no room with all the equipment in there), so I guess everyone just does deadlifts in the squat rack. The safety/support bars are adjustable. The problem I had was that the lowest holes they could lock in was only like 3" below my knee, and that seemed too high. I could drop it all the way down the post, but that was only maybe 2" above my ankle, which seemed a little too low (but I felt it in the backs of my legs & butt like that). Should I just do it like that next week, even though it seems a bit lower than most videos I've seen?

Edit: To add that I remember it's supposed to be something like however many inches off the ground it would be if it had a 45lb plate on it, but I don't think there's any way for me to get it to that height in the rack.

I wasn't sure, so I did just the bar when I did it that low, and did the rest at the lowest locking point... which seemed like cheating since it was too close to my knee & I could do it without much struggle at 65lb (bar + 20lb).

On monday I'll do the dumbells for the bench press. I think that's what the problem is. Doing dumbell bent-over rows today, my left arm had a harder time with everything.

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Esmerelda
Dec 1, 2009


Now if only these were made for women too! http://deadspin.com/5935227/special...e-of-hockey-rear end

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