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Underwhelmed
Mar 7, 2004

He took his vorpal sword in hand,
Long time the manxome foe he sought—
So rested he by the Tumtum tree
And stood awhile in thou

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

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Edit: Oh, and when they say the collectors edition has a "life-size" mask in it, do they mean a life-size human, or a life-size cat?

Life size for a Rat.

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Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

Gotta' nuke something.


Underwhelmed posted:

Life size for a Rat.

Hmmm. Well, I could at least use it to create a Darksiders 2 themed Mousterpiece, a la Dinner For Schmucks.


Actually, a Darksiders 2 themed Mousterpiece would the loving bomb.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000


Bloody Hedgehog posted:

Edit: Oh, and when they say the collectors edition has a "life-size" mask in it, do they mean a life-size human, or a life-size cat?

Daric
Dec 23, 2007

Shawn:
Do you really want to know my process?

Lassiter:
Absolutely.

Shawn:
Well it starts with a holla! and ends with a Creamsicle.


I just beat Darksiders 1 again. I beat it when it first came out and loved it, it's one of my favorite games.

I got it on Steam and plugged my 360 controller in, like I do for most games (Arkham City and Skyrim being the 2 most notable recent ones) and it worked perfectly.

I had forgotten how easy the last boss is when you get the Abyssal Armor though. Everything even getting to him was easy because I'd just heal any damage I took but, on the actual boss, I never even got hit.

floor is lava
May 14, 2007

mmfffmf mfmf mff


Looks like the steam predownload is up for those who want a jump start on that.

ONE YEAR LATER
Apr 13, 2004

Fry old buddy, it's me, Bender!


I have literally a dozen games I've purchased over the last year that I haven't even put into my 360 so I really shouldn't be buying anything but the original Darksiders was a really great, fun and overlooked game and THQ could use all the help they can get right now so I preordered Darksiders 2 and cannot wait for Tuesday. The only downside is that I have to work that day so I won't get a chance to really sink any time into it until Wednesday and I want to play it noooooooow!

RentCavalier
Jul 10, 2008

I mean, who dreams about taking a shit with another guy?


Welp, I pre-ordered this. Amazon was offering DLC and expansion packs AND mini-guides, how could I not? How?

The Gunslinger
Jul 24, 2004

Do not forget the face of your father.

In case this happened to anyone else, Greenmangaming hosed up and sent out emails saying the keys were ready but they're not actually there in your account yet.

Underwhelmed
Mar 7, 2004

He took his vorpal sword in hand,
Long time the manxome foe he sought—
So rested he by the Tumtum tree
And stood awhile in thou

Daric posted:

I just beat Darksiders 1 again. I beat it when it first came out and loved it, it's one of my favorite games.

I got it on Steam and plugged my 360 controller in, like I do for most games (Arkham City and Skyrim being the 2 most notable recent ones) and it worked perfectly.

I had forgotten how easy the last boss is when you get the Abyssal Armor though. Everything even getting to him was easy because I'd just heal any damage I took but, on the actual boss, I never even got hit.

The whole endgame is a joke in terms of difficulty, Once you start getting the Legendary weapon mods, and the armor, you are taking a tiny fraction of the damage you were taking, and have so much life drain, Chaos generation and Wrath leach that nothing can touch you. I'm not sure I lost a full skull worth of damage the entire rest of the game after getting the armor.

I wish some of those upgrades were obtainable earlier. My biggest issue with the original was how I never felt any sense of increased power until the very end. The move upgrades never felt like they mattered outside of the initial purchase.

Norns
Nov 21, 2011


The Gunslinger posted:

In case this happened to anyone else, Greenmangaming hosed up and sent out emails saying the keys were ready but they're not actually there in your account yet.

Check back later in the day maybe. The amazon preorder keys aren't going out till like 4 pm for me.

Sevorast
Sep 13, 2011

Incoming!


Underwhelmed posted:

The whole endgame is a joke in terms of difficulty, Once you start getting the Legendary weapon mods, and the armor, you are taking a tiny fraction of the damage you were taking, and have so much life drain, Chaos generation and Wrath leach that nothing can touch you. I'm not sure I lost a full skull worth of damage the entire rest of the game after getting the armor.

I wish some of those upgrades were obtainable earlier. My biggest issue with the original was how I never felt any sense of increased power until the very end. The move upgrades never felt like they mattered outside of the initial purchase.

Pretty much summed up my thoughts as well. Played the first 3/4 of the game never feeling like I was progressing in strength, then all the sudden I was an unstoppable juggernaut of destruction.

Hope the pacing is a bit better this time around.

Elman
Oct 26, 2009

como una máquina

I loved the first, even if it felt a little insulting that pretty much everything in it was a ripoff of something else. And the few things that seemed original later turned out to come from somewhere else too (Say, that Sand worm boss fight that was already in Shadow of Colossus).

I'll probably get this one but I'm hoping for more original ideas.

limited
Dec 10, 2005
Limited Sanity

sleepness posted:

Aug 14 for the US, and the 17th for everywhere else.

Says the 21st for Europe.

Underwhelmed posted:

Life size for a Rat.

That's what the twist is going to be. When the climactic final battle is apparently over, Death will grow enormous and keep going until it zooms out far enough for a galaxy-in-a-thimble-shot.

Then he will just crush the entire world under his foot and go grab a coffee.

Lasher
Aug 13, 2003

It's time to rise up, man up, get back up. Never been and won't be broken. Dust off and then come back for more.


The Gamestation here told me the release date was the 21st. Says so on all the promotional media in store too. I booked a few days off work for it and everything.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005


So how is this taking place at the same time as Darksiders if at the end of the first one War was just summoning them to earth for backup and had no idea where they were for most of the game? Putting that in spoilers just in case but you know, most people reading this thread have probably beaten the first one.

thebardyspoon fucked around with this message at Aug 10, 2012 around 15:47

Asehujiko
Apr 6, 2011


I don't understand their spoiler policy. The second/third trailer has the incredibly spoilerific tagline "Death will be our saviour", which was never mentioned again and replaced with "Death lives" after that and any inquiries in interviews were met with redirection and non-answers.

Then they release the Last Rites trailer that completely renders all their secrecy moot and is a two minute long shot showing that mankind survives, which they apparently desperately tried to hide for months.

Also, I hope somebody makes an inventory hack that allows us to add/remove the pre-order Armor/Gear.

And the release date here is a week after the american one What is Steam's policy on VPN's these days?

Agreed
Dec 30, 2003

The price of meat has just gone up, and your old lady has just gone down


thebardyspoon posted:

So how is this taking place at the same time as Darksiders if at the end of the first one War was just summoning them to earth for backup and had no idea where they were for most of the game? Putting that in spoilers just in case but you know, most people reading this thread has probably beaten the first.

I don't care if it's a straight up retcon. But since it is a parallel story, it could be that what War's moderately concerned about in a genial sort of way is an entirely different issue compared to what Death is working with. The pre-release materials (and I'm not spoilering this, it's all out there in press for the game) seem to suggest that Death is going to be dealing with Galactus and the Power Cosmic something so big it threatens creation, or something, and even the Charred Council may be corrupted. So while War's chumming around with his friends in the Kingdom of Man jovially working towards clearing his name, Death's doing something that matters in a different way.

Or something like that.

Hakkesshu
Nov 3, 2009

2D and 90s video game music



Asehujiko posted:

What is Steam's policy on VPN's these days?

They've never had one. As far as I know, there have been no recorded bannings for just playing games. I bought Spec Ops and played through the whole thing with a VPN before it was out in Europe.

The great M
Sep 10, 2010

The prince.

And then you.

Looks like the german speaking countries in Europe unlock on the 17th, the rest on the 21th.

Are digital release dates always this weird?

Rhonne
Feb 13, 2012


thebardyspoon posted:

So how is this taking place at the same time as Darksiders if at the end of the first one War was just summoning them to earth for backup and had no idea where they were for most of the game? Putting that in spoilers just in case but you know, most people reading this thread have probably beaten the first one.

I remember them saying that this game takes place between the prologue of the first game(when the apocalypse is happening) and the rest of the game(after everything is dead), which is about 100 or so years. So that gives them plenty of room for Death's story.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005


Rhonne posted:

I remember them saying that this game takes place between the prologue of the first game(when the apocalypse is happening) and the rest of the game(after everything is dead), which is about 100 or so years. So that gives them plenty of room for Death's story.

That makes sense, maybe they're setting the stage for a 3 where you play as Death and War sort of like that Legacy of Kain game where you played as Raziel and Kain?

Male Man
Aug 16, 2008

Im, too sexy for your teatime
Too sexy for your teatime
That tea that you're just driiinkiing


thebardyspoon posted:

That makes sense, maybe they're setting the stage for a 3 where you play as Death and War sort of like that Legacy of Kain game where you played as Raziel and Kain?

I'd say they might as well go whole hog with all 4 horsemen, but I'd much rather everyone forgot about Fury and Strife.

Seriously, what's wrong Pestilence and Famine? Those guys are each way deadlier than War's ever been, and they get put out to pasture because they're not flashy enough? Typical apocalyptic politics.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005


Male Man posted:

I'd say they might as well go whole hog with all 4 horsemen, but I'd much rather everyone forgot about Fury and Strife.

Seriously, what's wrong Pestilence and Famine? Those guys are each way deadlier than War's ever been, and they get put out to pasture because they're not flashy enough? Typical apocalyptic politics.

Right? Strife is just another word for conflict so he's basically Wars little brother. Fury is just the horseman of getting pissy, his agent must have pulled some strings.

Jokes aside that was a strange decision, wonder which one of Strife and Fury is the woman. If they do make another game I bet the other 2 or 3 are summon spells or something.

aegeryn
Oct 14, 2006


The Gunslinger posted:

In case this happened to anyone else, Greenmangaming hosed up and sent out emails saying the keys were ready but they're not actually there in your account yet.

They're available now, just activated mine on Steam.

RentCavalier
Jul 10, 2008

I mean, who dreams about taking a shit with another guy?


That Fury and Strife business is still the stupidest thing about these games. It's just so...like, WHY? They do their darndest to try and obscure any explicit Christian mythology from the games but, as everyone has pointed out, neither Fury nor Strife are really sensical choices as horseman of the Apocalypse. I'd be a lot more interested in playing as Famine than as Strife. I mean, you'd probably have some kind of leech-like powers, so it'd be interesting to start at a weakened state and grow stronger and deadlier as you sap away the energy from foes and friends and everything around you.

Pestilance could be something like an infection, naturally, so maybe you'd be able to mind-control groups of enemies or something? I dunno, either way, any of them would be a lot more fun to play than loving...whatever Fury would be.

Lobok
Jul 13, 2006

Nightmare fuel


Male Man posted:

Seriously, what's wrong Pestilence and Famine? Those guys are each way deadlier than War's ever been, and they get put out to pasture because they're not flashy enough? Typical apocalyptic politics.

I dunno, Famine seems pretty flashy.

quote:

The horseman carries a pair of balances or weighing scales, indicating the way that bread would have been weighed during a famine.


"How much for the bread, sir?"
-"If you have to ask, ya can't afford it! Haha!"

*week later*

STYLISH KILL!
+5 Exp
+0 Gold
+0 Weapons

Edit: Obviously that should have been Famine, not Pestilance.

Lobok fucked around with this message at Aug 10, 2012 around 18:01

GammaShade
Oct 10, 2005

CG: Boggle vacantly at these shenanigans.

thebardyspoon posted:

Jokes aside that was a strange decision, wonder which one of Strife and Fury is the woman. If they do make another game I bet the other 2 or 3 are summon spells or something.

According to the Giant Bomb sneak peek, Strife is the one with guns, which makes Fury the woman. Hell hath none like her, after all.

Torsade de Pointes
Feb 14, 2006

Oh, yeah. I name all the operations that go down in Taipei, even the ones that aren't mine. Operation Latex Turtle, Operation Angry Bees, Operation AAAAAHHHH-YOOOOOOOW! Heh. That was a good one.


Pestilence isn't actually one of the four horsemen in the bible anyways. The first horseman is Conquest, which doesn't make much sense to me cause of War being named later.

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

EB: jade, what if they get married or something???
EB: oh god, if rose became my sister too, that would wreak HAVOC on karkat's shipping diagram!


Lobok posted:

I dunno, Pestilance seems pretty flashy.



"How much for the bread, sir?"
-"If you have to ask, ya can't afford it! Haha!"

*week later*

STYLISH KILL!
+5 Exp
+0 Gold
+0 Weapons

Pestilence could have been some kind of emaciated cannibalistic berserker, Pestilence could have slung bio-weapons left and right and had a gas mask or some poo poo.

They could have made it work.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005


RentCavalier posted:

Pestilance could be something like an infection, naturally, so maybe you'd be able to mind-control groups of enemies or something? I dunno, either way, any of them would be a lot more fun to play than loving...whatever Fury would be.

Could have infected dudes by attacking them and then had your speed and power increase the more dudes were infected at once (sort of like in Arkham City when your combo starts getting high), encouraging you to bounce around and keep enemies infected. Then have spells and combo things that do extra damage and do various nasty things to infected enemies when they're done, like make them explode or hatch spiders. Looks like Death has got some stuff like that though.

GammaShade posted:

According to the Giant Bomb sneak peek, Strife is the one with guns, which makes Fury the woman. Hell hath none like her, after all.

Which sneak peek is that? I watched the QL EX but didn't notice anything about the other two.

thebardyspoon fucked around with this message at Aug 10, 2012 around 17:55

Rhonne
Feb 13, 2012


EDIT: ^^^ You could just check out the Darksiders wiki for information of Strife and Fury.

They could have made Pestilence some kind of super jolly viking spreading his diseases to everything in his path, Famine could have been some skinny guy who could barely lift his sword and has leeching powers like was said earlier.

Man now I want someone to make a game about Famine and Pestilence going around wrecking poo poo.

Rhonne fucked around with this message at Aug 10, 2012 around 18:01

limited
Dec 10, 2005
Limited Sanity

thebardyspoon posted:

Right? Strife is just another word for conflict so he's basically Wars little brother. Fury is just the horseman of getting pissy, his agent must have pulled some strings.

Jokes aside that was a strange decision, wonder which one of Strife and Fury is the woman. If they do make another game I bet the other 2 or 3 are summon spells or something.

Bugger. Got beaten to pointing out the first horseman being Conquest, but according to a wiki article on the four, the first horseman might be less of a clear-cut 'bad' guy. Could be Christ, or some similarly less dire manifestation. I like the idea of there being a pissed off boss of the other three.

I can't remember but ingame were the horsemen supposed to fight for heaven, hell, or just judge humanity to let the two planes go at it without those pesky sinners and saints getting mashed underfoot?

GammaShade
Oct 10, 2005

CG: Boggle vacantly at these shenanigans.

thebardyspoon posted:

Which sneak peek is that? I watched the QL EX but didn't notice anything about the other two.

The one in the OP. There's a throwaway line about how Death has the other one of Strife's guns. I guess the gun War got, Mercy, was the first one.

Irish Taxi Driver
Sep 12, 2004

We're just gonna open our tool palette and... get some entities... how about some nice happy trees? We'll put them near this barn. Give that cow some shade... There.

limited posted:

I can't remember but ingame were the horsemen supposed to fight for heaven, hell, or just judge humanity to let the two planes go at it without those pesky sinners and saints getting mashed underfoot?

Neutral fourth pillar, worked for the council I believe.

Rhonne
Feb 13, 2012


limited posted:

I can't remember but ingame were the horsemen supposed to fight for heaven, hell, or just judge humanity to let the two planes go at it without those pesky sinners and saints getting mashed underfoot?

Their job was to keep the peace between heaven and hell until humanity was strong enough to hold their own in an all out war between the three I believe. Which is why War was in so much trouble when the war started to early and all the humans died horribly.

Ddraig
Sep 5, 2005

Sits with a full house

gently caress famine and pestilence. They need to bring back Conquest, aka the Forgotten Horseman.

Torsade de Pointes
Feb 14, 2006

Oh, yeah. I name all the operations that go down in Taipei, even the ones that aren't mine. Operation Latex Turtle, Operation Angry Bees, Operation AAAAAHHHH-YOOOOOOOW! Heh. That was a good one.


Ddraig posted:

gently caress famine and pestilence. They need to bring back Conquest, aka the Forgotten Horseman.

The only reason I knew about Conquest was because of playing Binding of Isaac. The four Horsemen of the Apocalypse are bosses that can be encountered. They originally included Pestilence because he's commonly thought of as being one of the members. In the expansion, they added in an achievement called the Forgotten Horseman which unlocks Conquest as a boss if you complete it. I decided to look it up and found out I had it wrong for quite some time.

That's not to say I would care if they substituted Pestilence for Fury or Strife. It sounds like people in the thread want him to function like a plague marine from WH40k, which is fine by me. I'm not sure how you would even differentiate Conquest from War.

Ddraig
Sep 5, 2005

Sits with a full house

In traditional Biblical interpretations of the Four Horsemen, the first rider is a rider on a White Horse. He carries a bow, wears a crown and is said to "ride out like a conqueror bent on conquest"

Incidentally, it's also said that Jesus, when he supposedly returns to herald the end of times, will also ride out on a white horse, wearing a crown but carrying a sword instead of a bow.

Some people take this to mean that the white rider described as one of the horsemen is a falsh messiah (or antichrist) that is supposedly going to conquer the unbelievers.

"War" isn't actually named as such in the bible. He's just a rider on a red horse, which was taken to mean War, but is sometimes interpreted as bloody massacre.

The only horseman that's actually named is Death, who rides a pale green horse.

I'm not a huge biblical scholar but it always really annoys me how the four horsemen are always taken to be Pestilence (or Pollution, if you're reading Good Omens), War, Famine and Death when the first two are really open to interpretation

Jan
Feb 26, 2008




Damnit, beaten. I was going to mention how spergy this whole argument seems when the riders aren't actually named to begin with.

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Speedball
Apr 15, 2008


drat, this game looks great, but I just realized I never finished the first one! Time to plug that sucker back in and do it.

and anyway the white rider wasn't named but I always thought if he did have a name, it would be "Conquest." Because he carried a bow, wore a crown and was said to be a conquerer.

(that's something that the Atlus SMT games get right, at the least; in the Raidou games he even prefaces his attack by saying, "You'd better watch out, mortal. A conquerer is coming!")

Speedball fucked around with this message at Aug 10, 2012 around 19:28

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