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randombattle
Oct 16, 2008

This hand of mine shines and roars! It's bright cry tells me to grasp victory!



Perfectly Cromulent posted:

It's also cannot be used from behind cover despite the conical AOE.

This is because batarians are butts and can't do anything right.

The buff is the equivalent to making Drell vanguard's pull doing 10 more damage. It's a pitiful buff and not at all addressing the problems with the class.

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SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010

... all the pronouns


SciFiDownBeat posted:

Let me rephrase: now there's no reason not for me to use the BatSol on anything under Platinum (and when I'm hosting). I'm really warming up to him.
Oh, well this I totally agree with. There's something so rewarding about shooting a spike power into a guy, then shooting him with a spike gun, safe behind your spike armor. Falcon Punching is nothing to sneeze at either.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

World-changing power, absolutely no side effects!

randombattle posted:

This is because batarians are butts and can't do anything right.

The buff is the equivalent to making Drell vanguard's pull doing 10 more damage. It's a pitiful buff and not at all addressing the problems with the class.

12.5% buff, remember that that 100 base damage gets multiplied by everything else.

Ballistic Blades got buffed just as much as the Piranha got nerfed.

Mr Dog
Jan 2, 2005

no user serviceable parts inside

No Shadow nerf, thankfully. It feels like with a little more practice I could solo waves all day with this class. Stealth Vanguard with a sword and techsmash, god drat.

Why the codpiece, though? I mean that just bugs me.

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011


Mr Dog posted:

Valiant is kinda mediocre these days (even post-nerf the Krysae is arguably better because it chain-staggers things), Crusader is completely eclipsed by the Piranha, Harrier feels superior to Hurricane and we all know about the Eagle. Why do I particularly care what I'm going to get in this Commendation pack, again?
Only if you don't care about weight. The Harrier is heavy.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph


Synonamess Botch posted:

You do have the smart choke on it right?

Yes I think I'm just too used to using shotguns that I can hit things with from behind cover halfway across the level. I tried the Vorcha sentinel again today with a Claymore instead and while I still don't have the rhythm down for the regeneration, I could reliably kill things from a distance so that it wasn't required that I rush straight into swarms of things just to get a kill.

Dilb
Oct 23, 2008


Ravenfood posted:

Only if you don't care about weight. The Harrier is heavy.

And it has a lot less ammo. The Harrier is unmatched in terms of long range damage (and I've never understood people who claim recoil is ever a problem), but to kill an Atlas by yourself you'll need to hit an ammo box/supply pylon. The Hurricane I only has a real capacity of 130, but the heat sink increases that by 80%.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

and she told me, "Listen honey. There's hundreds of strong men out there. I like men who are kind, who are honest, men who can be open with me."

Maybe I'm just overly partial to Batarians but I can't complain about the buff to Ballistic Blades. BatSol has always been a solid class, but never overpowered to the point of total oversaturation like Geth Infiltrator or N7 Demolisher.

Two Finger
Aug 4, 2007


CONFIRMED:
Batarian Heavy Melee, with Blade armour, and a Bubble, is enough to tip your damage reduction to invulnerability. It is awesome.

Atlases can still grab you, though

Gordon Shumway
Jan 21, 2008

Do not attempt to adjust your set...


Dilb posted:

And it has a lot less ammo. The Harrier is unmatched in terms of long range damage (and I've never understood people who claim recoil is ever a problem), but to kill an Atlas by yourself you'll need to hit an ammo box/supply pylon. The Hurricane I only has a real capacity of 130, but the heat sink increases that by 80%.

Also the Harrier can drop a Brute or Ravager in a little over one clip when Marksman is applied. It's great for Reapers.

SciFiDownBeat
Jun 19, 2012


Two Finger posted:

CONFIRMED:
Batarian Heavy Melee, with Blade armour, and a Bubble, is enough to tip your damage reduction to invulnerability. It is awesome.

Atlases can still grab you, though

It was cool seeing you lunge at enemies with your invinci-punch. It was both sad and hilarious to see the Atlas break your spine!

Two Finger
Aug 4, 2007


SciFiDownBeat posted:

It was cool seeing you lunge at enemies with your invinci-punch. It was both sad and hilarious to see the Atlas break your spine!

It's definitely situational. Has its uses, but is tricky to do and difficult to make useful. At the right time though...

Perfectly Cromulent
Sep 1, 2009



randombattle posted:

This is because batarians are butts and can't do anything right.

The buff is the equivalent to making Drell vanguard's pull doing 10 more damage. It's a pitiful buff and not at all addressing the problems with the class.

It's a reasonably large buff for an already good power, as others have already pointed out. Fix the problem with it not working from behind cover and let it trigger tech/fire/cryo detonations and it would be REALLY good. Inferno Grenade + Ballstic Blades is already great at wrecking whole spawns. I'm not sure what problems the class has other than not being overpowered like many of the other FOTM classes.

MrDude
Jun 23, 2011


Fun idea that might be worth wasting one of the Human Sentinels on: Has anyone tried running a Shotgun-based HS? Narida Class Builder example

Basically a Krogan Adeptfiltrator. Spec for defense like a Krogan Sentinel, use Warp (Expose/Pierce) and the racial passive to maximize damage and stagger enemies like an SI uses Energy Drain, and keep a few points in Throw to stagger like an AA. Likely go for defensive gear, since non-N7 Humans are so squishy, but keep in mind they can roll, so that's a benefit over a shotgun KS.

I'm particularly hoping Warp and hitscan shotguns have solid synergy against Armored enemies, given Armor has a major effect on them (50 damage reduction x 6-8 pellets, right?), since Expose alone isn't going to remotely compare to Tactical Cloak. If it can handle Banshees and Atlases, I might stick to it for a while.

Still, I'm liking the looks of this as reaching Turian Sentinel levels of utility: Do powerful BEs with a fellow adept (you can still get the combo boost in this build), do weaker ones yourself if you must, use Throw to detonate Tech Bursts, and have some serious combat viability by going for the racial passive and having Fitness/Tech Armor. Probably spreads itself a little thin, but what the hell. Will give it a shot tonight.

e: Had to promote since I had no respec cards, but I got it up to 13 and was doing pretty swell on Silver. There's a fun little flow where you can start with Warp, then shoot (I tried Eviscerator and Wraith), and Throw is available to let you cancel the reload with a biotic explosion. It's a nice tidy packet of damage, and gives you a lot of wiggle room set off the BE immediately if there are too many enemies, toss out another Warp to damage an enemy and keep it primed while you wait for shields to regenerate, or just go crazy and Warp minor enemies point blank and follow up with melee.

MrDude fucked around with this message at Aug 9, 2012 around 08:14

Frankenstyle
Dec 3, 2005

I drink to make other people more interesting.

SciFiDownBeat posted:

So if the multiplayer is following the single player chronologically in some way, and the Reapers are increasingly focusing on London, does this mean we're approaching the point where the Citadel is brought to Earth and Shepard fires the Crucible? I'm waiting for the Multiplayer DLC where we get to fight Reaper bosses...

No. We're approaching the point where you try to log on, and just get a splash screen saying "Commander Shepard did a thing. Your fight is done, trooper..."

ZombyDog
Jul 11, 2001



Frankenstyle posted:

No. We're approaching the point where you try to log on, and just get a splash screen saying "Commander Shepard did a thing. Your fight is done, trooper..."
One day we'll all log in and all of the characters will have a green tinge and be wearing sentient caps.

thevoiceofdog
Jul 19, 2009

Terminally ambivalent.


Helpful tip: Do NOT heavy melee an enemy as a Batarian that has simultaneously been hit with the Lash power.

Marquis de Pyro
Sep 25, 2006

Evil Prevails

thevoiceofdog posted:

Helpful tip: Do NOT heavy melee an enemy as a Batarian that has simultaneously been hit with the Lash power.

Actually this owns

Zoran
Aug 19, 2008


Don't worry. I've got it under control.


thevoiceofdog posted:

Helpful tip: Do NOT heavy melee an enemy as a Batarian that has simultaneously been hit with the Lash power.

I'm dying from this mental image.

zxqv8
Oct 21, 2010

Did somebody call about a Ravager problem?


From what I hear, you go ice-skating after the target, wherever it ended up.

VJeff
Jun 2, 2011

SAVE IT NED


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eTaCRQNH6g Probably like this, but moreso.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph


That reminds me that I did a fun thing this morning;I was the Drell adept and used lift on a Cerberus trooper, and as it was floating at perfect height I heavy melee'd it and punched him far through the air(imagine the scene from The Matrix where Neo kicks the dude's legs out from under him and punches him in the chest).

And the Vorcha Sentinal is really fun now that I've started getting the hang of it; I'm loving having such an agile character with such big weapons(claymore and harrier). And he literally hops when you do the forward dodge, he's like a bunny that's just having so much fun killing people .

Alpha Phoenix
Feb 26, 2007

>:3


I ran into my first hacked game today. Searching for silver on my Infiltator and something seemed off. I got hit pretty hard after joining but just got knocked down to a sliver of life. I turned a corner and shot a Nemesis and it killed through shields, no gate. Then the wave ended and it said I had survived 3 waves.

Next wave, It comes together as I am able to one-hit-kill banshees and this silver game I searched for is actually plat.

I just unlocked Shadow today, I hope my account doesn't get destroyed

TacticalGranny
Feb 6, 2008



Zombie mode looks like so much fun. I just wish it was an actual optional gameplay mode.

hup
Feb 25, 2006

ME IRL


Marquis de Pyro posted:

Actually this owns
yeah it is kind of the greatest thing.

Two Finger
Aug 4, 2007


thevoiceofdog posted:

Helpful tip: Do NOT heavy melee an enemy as a Batarian that has simultaneously been hit with the Lash power.

You are wrong.

Additionally, if an enemy has just been pulled or singularity'd, Heavy Melee. Provided you score a kill, you will king-hit them into loving space.

I wish I had a video of the time I did that.

X_ThePerfect
Jul 31, 2010


A heavy melee from a Batarian is the ONLY way to kill something in the air. Ever. It is insanely satisfying.
I also really love it when Ballistic Blades explode as your punch lands, makes you feel like you've punched them so hard they just spontaneously combusted.

Thundercloud
Mar 28, 2010

To boldly be eaten where no grot has been eaten before!

And the servers are down.

I'd hoped to level my Krogan Soldier back up today.

Plus side I've now got all the Gold weapons, having picked up the Acolyte yesterday, and the Batarian Sentinel.

That DICK!
Sep 28, 2010


This weekend's allied goal seems pretty easy to fail and I'm curious what they're going to do to punish us. "For the next two weeks, all enemies speak with a cockney british accent"

UnknownMercenary
Oct 31, 2011

The paninis in SPACE!


They turn off credit earnings for every map except London.

Felinoid
Mar 8, 2009

Marginally better than Shepard's dancing. 2/10


UnknownMercenary posted:

They turn off credit earnings for every map except London.

Well, that'd certainly give them time for some proper server maintenance, when 99% of the playerbase disappears for two weeks.

Vietnamwees
May 8, 2008


Ugh, it is as I feared, and maxing out every weapon(except Ultra Rares), every Weapon Mod, and every Character in MP has kind of screwed me over. After blowing 2mil credits on PSPs last night, I estimate that every Gold slot has slightly higher odds of being a Gold Consumable rather than the only other Gold cards I don't have, Gear. I need 18 more Gold Gear cards to max out the entire category, and it'll probably take about 20-30 PSPs to pull off, if I'm lucky. And out of the 20 PSPs I got last night, only 3 Ultra Rares came out too, so it looks like the odds of pulling those haven't improved either, but at least I got a Typhoon I, along with a Javelin V and a Harrier V.

Vietnamwees fucked around with this message at Aug 9, 2012 around 16:30

Mr Dog
Jan 2, 2005

no user serviceable parts inside

I kinda want an Indra and a Saber because those are literally the only two guns I do not have (well and the Collector Rifle obv)

Hyperactive
Mar 10, 2004

RICHARDS!

Mr Dog posted:

I kinda want an Indra and a Saber because those are literally the only two guns I do not have (well and the Collector Rifle obv)
Still waiting on that Harrier over here.

Kinda really like the Indra actually

Crows Turn Off
Jan 7, 2008

turn in your old, worn-out for the war effort

Just unlocked the Slayer and I'm pretty excited about that. How much does this guy own? What (hopefully unnecessary) gun works well with him?

UnknownMercenary
Oct 31, 2011

The paninis in SPACE!


The Saber has been buffed so many times it's gone from mediocre to amazing, and the Indra's not too shabby now either. It's a far cry from when it was first released as basically a scoped Avenger.

Cheap Vodka
Nov 4, 2008

COMPLETE. GLOBAL. CALIBRATION.

Mr Dog posted:

I kinda want an Indra and a Saber because those are literally the only two guns I do not have (well and the Collector Rifle obv)

The saber is so loving good. Put an extended barrel and piercing mod on it and it basically turns into a railgun. The weight is kind of high, but I just use it on the Destroyer since cooldowns don't mean poo poo with that class.

Felinoid
Mar 8, 2009

Marginally better than Shepard's dancing. 2/10


Vietnamwees posted:

And out of the 20 PSPs I got last night, only 3 Ultra Rares came out too, so it looks like the odds of pulling those haven't improved either, but at least I got a Typhoon I, along with a Javelin V and a Harrier V.

3/40 is 7.5%. It used to be something like 2%. From my own experience I can also say that it's definitely improved, as since Earth dropped I've gotten 5 different URs up to IV, and one of those then up to V, nevermind finally landing the Particle Rifle and Indra. It's still somewhat rare (and kinda should be), but not nearly as rare as it used to be.

limited
Dec 10, 2005
Limited Sanity

UnknownMercenary posted:

They turn off credit earnings for every map except London.

Just report them to the LOCOG if you don't like this operation.

For the uninitiated, the LOCOG are in charge of promotion for the olympic games and serve a cease and desist on anything that remotely looks, sounds, or smells like it might be to do with the olympics, and the owner hasn't paid for the right to do so. The thread in D&D has some fun examples like them making GBS threads over charity organizations and even their own staff.

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Rei_
May 16, 2004

The difference between confinement and rest is a shift in perspective



I still don't have any of the N7, Cerberus, Vorcha or any Sentinel classes that aren't Batarian unlocked. Most of my new gun unlocks are hovering around level 1, i just get poo poo on all the time in public lobbies. I really wish I had more time to play this game or my schedule overlapped with whenever the hell people are online.

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