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Stymie posted:I hate people construing massive expressions of privilege as the only possible source of culture in an otherwise bleak world filled with low-income families.
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mookface posted:Why does it matter if it's premoninantly young white people? Even if that were true, what difference would it make whatsoever? The fact that you refer to anyone who uses psychoactive substances at a week long art festival in the middle of the desert as a 'druggy' is quite revealing of the type of person you are. The art installations can be really, really interesting and beautiful, as has been posted before. I don't know what you like to do for fun, but you sound pretty sheltered and closed minded. He shits on other people's fun for fun. On topic: this is pretty shortsighted on the judge's part. Burning Man brings a lot of interesting character and flair, something that I'm sure the local community would miss. Also, I have a friend who is literally there for two months setting the event up and taking it down, with the actual event sandwiched in between. He doesn't get paid, it's all volunteer work. There are days where he walks around for 8 hours picking up cigarette butts. They leave almost no footprint on the land, and have these insanely one sided deals with the county. Why would anyone want to hike up their fees? Because hippies, that's why!
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 19:26 |
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Hooray, now that I can can afford it and have the time, it turns out I'm old and fat. Not sure if I'd survive the desert heat. I always thought the event strove for zero-impact to the extreme; that the locals aren't overrun with freaks clearing out their store shelves and pissing up the place. If I ever do go, I wouldn't expect to making be many runs to town, wherever the nearest one is. Apart from a couple of blind-eye deputies and an ambulance on call, I can't see the festival putting much strain on the county's infrastructure. I'd imagine in the weeks and days leading up to it, the incoming traffic has got generate much bitching, in spite of buses and carpools. From their website, I couldn't tell if it's on private or public land, but Judge Wagner's fee increases seem quite draconian, practically Wagnerian!! How hard can it be to find another 100,000-acre venue in that stinking desert?
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 19:28 |
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All this bullshit talk and no videos. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahv_1IS7SiE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIiMGcmwP1c
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 19:29 |
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Hollis posted:Burning man is far from a elitist privilege seriously, it's 40 bucks a day the forums have people that do ride shares and ways to get there annually. It really is not a "privileged" event. Hahaha merely 40 dollars a day, that's all! Surely anybody can afford such reasonable rates! If not, welp guess you didn't bootstrap enough, try not having kids next time! Gosh, it's almost as if this idea of an isolated annual event as being the only place where someone can find creative expression or meaningful interaction (away from the dreary, dull lives of people who choose such banal purposes as raising a family) serves a larger power dynamic of keeping people atomized and alienated... Now our once-in-a-lifetime outlet for True Creativity And Culture is under attack by The Man, we must defend it at all costs! I do wonder why nobody gets so up in arms when the same thing happens to the Gathering of the Juggalos...
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 19:33 |
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Stymie posted:Hahaha merely 40 dollars a day, that's all! Surely anybody can afford such reasonable rates! If not, welp guess you didn't bootstrap enough, try not having kids next time! So how many times a day do you get punched in the face for being a massive prick? Do you have any teeth left?
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 19:35 |
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You know who else was into art and drugs, and tried to form an exclusive utopian society based on ritualistic sacrifice? Hitler, that's who. Apparently Stymie is the only one in this thread who remembers that guy.
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 19:35 |
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Everyone I know who goes to Burning Man is seriously loaded but I guess that's not necessarily everyone there. Someone also told me they hosted a koran (well generic religions literature) burning at Burning Man.
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 19:35 |
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mookface posted:Why does it matter if it's premoninantly young white people? Even if that were true, what difference would it make whatsoever? The fact that you refer to anyone who uses psychoactive substances at a week long art festival in the middle of the desert as a 'druggy' is quite revealing of the type of person you are. The art installations can be really, really interesting and beautiful, as has been posted before. I don't know what you like to do for fun, but you sound pretty sheltered and closed minded.
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 19:35 |
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Dolphin posted:Yes. I'm sheltered and close minded because I don't like to do drugs at corporately run for-profit white washed events in the desert. Well why aren't you sheltered and close minded?
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 19:36 |
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Dewgy posted:Well why aren't you sheltered and close minded?
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 19:37 |
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Stymie posted:Hahaha merely 40 dollars a day, that's all! Surely anybody can afford such reasonable rates! If not, welp guess you didn't bootstrap enough, try not having kids next time! Get out, you troll.
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 19:38 |
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Why isn't anyone? Why answer a question with a question? Why do birds suddenly appear?
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 19:38 |
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Dolphin posted:Why aren't you? Decent education, lived on my own for a while, taught myself to play guitar, read often, kind of have a bit of a hobby in anthropology and religious studies. Human culture both fascinates and infuriates me! Your turn!
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 19:38 |
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I, for one, am surprised that they scheduled Burning Man the same week as the RNC Convention. How will privileged white people know which white-washed corporate orgy of drugs and sex to attend? 
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 19:39 |
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There's always the "gathering" for all you poor white trash who can't afford Burning Man. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihbKDErkGFs
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 19:39 |
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Stymie posted:Hahaha merely 40 dollars a day, that's all! Surely anybody can afford such reasonable rates! If not, welp guess you didn't bootstrap enough, try not having kids next time! If having a family makes you this loving bitter maybe you shouldn't have had one? People who are happy with their decision to have a family typically do not spend their days ridiculing people on the internet for wanting to go to a loving art festival in the desert.
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 19:39 |
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Dolphin posted:Yes. I'm sheltered and close minded because I don't like to do drugs at corporately run for-profit white washed events in the desert. What are you trying to say here? Why are you politicizing and attaching a totally unecessary racial commentary to your hatred for a much loved event that has nothing to do with you?
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 19:40 |
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Dusseldorf posted:Everyone I know who goes to Burning Man is seriously loaded but I guess that's not necessarily everyone there. Someone also told me they hosted a koran (well generic religions literature) burning at Burning Man. They were burning things at a festival called BURNING MAN??? Madness!! 
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 19:41 |
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Orunitier posted:There's always the "gathering" for all you poor white trash who can't afford Burning Man. I poo poo you not the gathering looks like fun. Fun where you might end up with several diseases, a stabbing, your wallet stolen, and a lifetime of regret, but fun nonetheless.
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 19:41 |
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Copley Depot posted:I, for one, am surprised that they scheduled Burning Man the same week as the RNC Convention. How will privileged white people know which white-washed corporate orgy of drugs and sex to attend? Burning Man if you want to have straight sex... RNC if you want to have gay sex.
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 19:42 |
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mookface posted:What are you trying to say here? Why are you politicizing and attaching a totally unecessary racial commentary to your hatred for a much loved event that has nothing to do with you? Burning Man puts a lot of effort into politicizing itself as environmentally friendly and egalitarian. It's probably useful to point out that both those claims are on extremely shaky ground.
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 19:43 |
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chemosh6969 posted:So a county is trying to make up nearly #300k they're losing each year due to this event. I don't care what event it is, it's stupid to think they should foot the bill for that much cash that could be used on other things. With public services getting cut left and right, I'd rather see some of the money go back to that stuff than Burning Man. I live like an hour away from all the shenanigans of burning man. It brings so many people that support local business (in my cit, and in the some 50 home town it is in) that there will be opposition to this from people with money. They're pretty much idiots if they keep this ruling as is, because local businesses will complain. On that note, tickets for burning man are pretty pricey (something like $150.00 at the very very minimum, and reaching $300.00). Unless my math is incorrect that's $7,500,000 at the minimum that this event brings in. They probably can afford to pay a bit more money for it to be held. This is my almost completely uninformed information, so it's only something to think about not something to be taken as fact.
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 19:43 |
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I'm the most elitist hating, class envy filled person in the world and the rich kids at burning man are not a thing that is worthy of being outraged over. Seriously, most of the elitist, liberal art types are actually allies in the war on poverty. I don't mind them having an expensive gathering.. the amount of income and resources they pool together are insignificant when it comes to our current economic state. This shouldn't be something you should feel rage against the machine music over.
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 19:46 |
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That flaming octopus car is probably one of the coolest goddamn things I've ever seen. My friend is selling a couple tickets since he can't make it out this year and I really really want to buy one but it just seems a bit too late to prep for it and plan on getting there and back. I've got some other friends who have built awesome poo poo for it for years and years so at least I'd have a camp to stay in but gah... so expensive and quite a huge time commitment. I definitely will make it out one day though, hopefully next summer. Jealous of you goons making it out this year! Oh, and this judge is a loving idiot for the variety of reasons already mentioned.
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 19:47 |
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pacman posted:I'm the most elitist hating, class envy filled person in the world and the rich kids at burning man are not a thing that is worthy of being outraged over. Seriously, most of the elitist, liberal art types are actually allies in the war on poverty. I don't mind them having an expensive gathering.. the amount of income and resources they pool together are insignificant when it comes to our current economic state. This shouldn't be something you should feel rage against the machine music over. I'm confused as to how you have to be a rich kid to go to Burning Man. Anyone who has a half decent job can save up a bit of money and book a week off work, it's not like climbing Everest. The girl who cuts my hair has been every year for the last six years.
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 19:48 |
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mookface posted:I'm confused as to how you have to be a rich kid to go to Burning Man. Anyone who has a half decent job can save up a bit of money and book a week off work, it's not like climbing Everest. The girl who cuts my hair has been every year for the last six years. Stymie and another poster were taking issue with the elitism and richness of Burning Man. For the sake of argument, let's just assume that everyone who goes is rich... still not worth being outraged over.
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 19:49 |
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Orunitier posted:All this bullshit talk and no videos. I think I'm too fat and old for Burning Man, but it looks like a lot of fun.
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 19:50 |
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mookface posted:I'm confused as to how you have to be a rich kid to go to Burning Man. Anyone who has a half decent job can save up a bit of money and book a week off work, it's not like climbing Everest. The girl who cuts my hair has been every year for the last six years.
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 19:50 |
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Copley Depot posted:Look at this elitist buying haircuts. Dude that could cost like $40, not an amount people like Stymie can just throw around like that.
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 19:52 |
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Did your mother leave your father because a rich man paid a million dollars for a night with her or something? Did he beat you after that? Is that what this is?
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 19:53 |
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Knyteguy posted:On that note, tickets for burning man are pretty pricey (something like $150.00 at the very very minimum, and reaching $300.00). Unless my math is incorrect that's $7,500,000 at the minimum that this event brings in. They probably can afford to pay a bit more money for it to be held. This is my almost completely uninformed information, so it's only something to think about not something to be taken as fact. http://financials.burningman.com/chart_2010.html Their total expenditures are 17.5mil/year and they don't really seem to make that large of a profit from each year's event. I would like to see how even their payroll distribution is, seeing as it's the largest single item on the chart.
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 19:53 |
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I bought an electric trimmer and a handheld mirror forever ago that I don't even take care of and it's probably saved me like a grand by now. I probably spent that money in taking days off work like the privileged bourgeois man that I am.Boogaleeboo posted:Did your mother leave your father because a rich man paid a million dollars for a night with her or something? Did he beat you after that? Is that what this is?
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 19:56 |
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Copley Depot posted:Look at this elitist buying haircuts. I bet you don't even have kids and family. I only get one hair cut a year to save up enough to go to Burning Man. I usually go sometime in october or november so I look perfect for the summer. My children understand.
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 20:00 |
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Dewgy posted:Decent education, lived on my own for a while, taught myself to play guitar, read often, kind of have a bit of a hobby in anthropology and religious studies. Human culture both fascinates and infuriates me!
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 20:00 |
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Dolphin posted:Sudanese refugee, immigrated to Minnesota as a child with my parents after a brief stint in Kenya, received a masters in cultural Anthropology in 2007, do fieldwork in Northern Kenya. Why did you say that Burning man is 'whitewashed'?
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 20:03 |
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mookface posted:Why did you say that Burning man is 'whitewashed'?
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 20:04 |
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Dolphin posted:GIS Burning man. Oh, ok so I guess whenever I go to our annual summer folk music festival that's 'white washed' too, and that I do nothing but contribute to this white washing.
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 20:05 |
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Dolphin posted:GIS Burning man. I've never paid much attention to Burning Man and don't know much about it, but Jesus Christ are you loving insufferable. Do you bring this level of wearing your ignorance on your sleeve to everything in your miserable life? The pictures and video make it look pretty awesome, I never knew you could do that kind of stuff with an Arduino.
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| # ? Aug 18, 2012 20:05 |
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| # ? May 25, 2013 20:43 |
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Seriously, though, why is it that the Burning Man must be defended at all costs from encroachments of government demanding a bit more money to pad out their coffers (which of course, would be used to fund the local military, and not pay for schools or anything), while the Gathering of the Juggalos is a source of ridicule and is rightfully bounced from town to town trying to find a place to have their festival?
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