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nrook
Jun 25, 2009

Just let yourself become a worthless person!
I don’t play much anymore and was a breakeven 1/3 live bozo even when I did, so I’m not in a position to give anyone any advice. But that was also my take. Getting run over by the nuts is the price of getting paid by sets and overpairs.

I would have to be insanely bored and leaking to play 23s in the cutoff and even then I’d raise. I never played over 200bb deep though.

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Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
23s is useless at online stack sizes but it's awesome in position and super deep. Assuming you have the discipline not to go broke on 2 pair.

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

I deeply respect you as a human being... Some day I'm gonna make you *Mrs* Buck Turgidson!


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Eric the Mauve posted:

23s is useless at online stack sizes but it's awesome in position and super deep. Assuming you have the discipline not to go broke on 2 pair.

The problem is your flush is worth very little and you can't even really comfortably put in 100 bb with it if you hit a lot of the times, and you're basically just trying to hit exactly an A45 board so it's pretty bad

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
If you can handread and range well and are in position, you can get away from a losing flush without losing the whole stack. And you'll take down small pots just from being in position when everyone misses. With deep stacks your semibluffs can be really strong--it's very hard to put in 250bb on an overpair.

All that's just treading water while you hunt the big jackpot, though, which is taking the whole stack off of AA (or 44/55 when they get there) or a sizable pot off AK when you hit the wheel. Certainly you're folding on the flop most of the time.

Fun hand to play in position and deep and profitable in that situation imo. Just don't play it for less than 200bb, and don't play it out of position.

Eric the Mauve fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Dec 23, 2023

MY INEVITABLE DEBT
Apr 21, 2011
I am lonely and spend most of my time on 4Chan talking about the superiority of BBC porn.

Eric the Mauve posted:

If you can handread and range well and are in position, you can get away from a losing flush without losing the whole stack. And you'll take down small pots just from being in position when everyone misses. With deep stacks your semibluffs can be really strong--it's very hard to put in 250bb on an overpair.

All that's just treading water while you hunt the big jackpot, though, which is taking the whole stack off of AA (or 44/55 when they get there) or a sizable pot off AK when you hit the wheel. Certainly you're folding on the flop most of the time.

Fun hand to play in position and deep and profitable in that situation imo. Just don't play it for less than 200bb, and don't play it out of position.

you could say this about basically any 2 cards to justify playing whatever random trash you want. doesnt make it true

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