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Planning on tackling a 4p coop session of this next week, other than the loot mod to raise drop rates, anything else we should do/know/care about, or dive in and shoot poo poo?
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watho posted:Not to be a negative Nancy or anything but even Bandit ARs are effective killing machines during the first playthrough as long as they're at your level. The things you should focus on is keep changing up your gear and do the side quests because it just sounds like you're underleveled and have low-level gear. The more you level your equipment in Gibbed the better the game is.
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Jun 24, 2015 08:50
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Jun 24, 2015 11:00
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:The more you level your equipment in Gibbed the better the game is. I'm not saying that that's a stupid opinion. I'm implying it.
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Jun 24, 2015 13:56
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watho posted:I'm not saying that that's a stupid opinion. Hmm yes well it turns out that you can actually use any leveled gun in base game because base game isn't a grindfest. Meanwhile the new game+ and new game++ become progressively shittier experiences without farmed equipment, a thing which is itself lovely to get. Or you can level your guns (although at a certain point it becomes DPUH level or nothing) and not have a vice attached to your balls for the entire game as it artificially extends out its playtime by making you poopsock a particular section in a game that's not even an MMO so why the gently caress am I doing this
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Jun 25, 2015 07:29
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I've never used cheat engine or gibbed and had no problem with true vault hunter mode, I don't think it's really required there but I did usually stick to anarchy which is kind of overpowered. Never touching ultimate slag hunter mode again though. gently caress that and whoever thought "quadruple every enemy's HP across the board" was good design. Did an intern come up with that?
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Jun 25, 2015 07:38
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Yeah, TVHM really isn't bad at all. In fact, I'd say that normal mode is boring as poo poo and I dislike the fact that I have to sleepwalk through the entire game once per character just to be able to inject some sort of challenge into the game.
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Jun 25, 2015 07:42
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I wish I didn't play UVHM because it burned me. TVHM has the right "challenge" feel since slag isn't required as long as your gear is decent enough.
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Jun 25, 2015 07:42
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:Yeah, TVHM really isn't bad at all. In fact, I'd say that normal mode is boring as poo poo and I dislike the fact that I have to sleepwalk through the entire game once per character just to be able to inject some sort of challenge into the game. Somewhere in the dumb mess of an OP is a zip file with savefiles for"blank" level 32 characters at the start of TVHM with basic gear, if you wanted to skip Normal.
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Jun 25, 2015 10:17
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Hmm yes well it turns out that you can actually use any leveled gun in base game because base game isn't a grindfest. Meanwhile the new game+ and new game++ become progressively shittier experiences without farmed equipment, a thing which is itself lovely to get. First of all: lmao Second of all: we're talking about the base game, dingus!
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Jun 25, 2015 11:33
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AirRaid posted:Somewhere in the dumb mess of an OP is a zip file with savefiles for"blank" level 32 characters at the start of TVHM with basic gear, if you wanted to skip Normal. Right here.
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Jun 27, 2015 16:49
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It's funny because it's my google drive.
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Jun 28, 2015 09:51
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Started playing the Pre-Sequel after the sale. Is there anything I should know or do, is there a cheat table people use, etc.?
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Jun 28, 2015 23:22
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If there is same thing for Pre-Sequel characters I will appreciate it.
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Jun 28, 2015 23:52
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theshim posted:Started playing the Pre-Sequel after the sale. Is there anything I should know or do, is there a cheat table people use, etc.? To be honest, I've found the loot to be pretty good in TPS. Not in the same way BL1 was, of course, where there was a legendary Item of the Day half the time, but that the greens, blues and quest rewards were good enough. (It helps that the legendaries are generally boring, at least to me.) Loot tables might make it more fun, but they aren't necessarily like they were in BL2. Caveat: I haven't played UVHM in TPS yet. Lasers are fun and good, though how much use you get out of them depends on your character and play style. Except for Splitters, the laser shotguns, which are complete poo poo. I think it's impossible to actually hit anything with them, except accidentally. The lasers are completely misaligned with the crosshairs. Unfortunately, Splitters make up half the lasers in this game. Cryo is also fun and good, but can make fights kind of trivial. Just freeze everything that looks like a threat! The Grinder is pretty awesome, so unlock that as soon as you can -- which is pretty early. There's a bunch of recipes for it, if you want to get more specific loot. The Claptrap DLC and the DLC Vault Hunters are all very good. If you haven't bought those, you should consider it.
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Jun 29, 2015 00:05
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theshim posted:Started playing the Pre-Sequel after the sale. Is there anything I should know or do, is there a cheat table people use, etc.? There is a Gibbed editor for it, pretty much just like the one for BL2. http://blog.gib.me/2015/03/23/borderlands-the-pre-sequel-save-editor-revision-33/
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Jun 29, 2015 01:18
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If anyone is looking to do a new playthrough of BL2,I got the GOTY edition recently and would love to try Mechromancer and play with some people, since playing with pubbies is always kind of weird what with loot not being shared and the quests not necessarily being synced and whatnot. I'd be down for a loot-table modified run starting from either normal or TVHM. https://steamcommunity.com/id/geektox
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Jun 29, 2015 02:34
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Geektox posted:If anyone is looking to do a new playthrough of BL2,I got the GOTY edition recently and would love to try Mechromancer and play with some people, since playing with pubbies is always kind of weird what with loot not being shared and the quests not necessarily being synced and whatnot. I'd be down for a loot-table modified run starting from either normal or TVHM. I may actually consider this now that I saw those blank TVHM files. If I can get them running on my Mac I'd be down for a run.
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Jun 29, 2015 03:48
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I've been playing BL2 with a buddy of mine, I'm about level 22, he's almost 10 levels behind me, since he just started but has been catching up. If he hosts, obviously the enemies scale to him, which means I can one-shot almost everyone. However, it shows that I get 1 or 2 xp from some of these guys... is XP shared, and if so, does he get more for kills like that, even when I do it? I hope so 
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Jun 29, 2015 12:43
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No, XP is on a by-player basis. When you kill an enemy and get 1-2 XP for it, he gets whatever he would normally get at his level. Same for when he kills an enemy.
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Jun 29, 2015 12:52
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CJacobs posted:No, XP is on a by-player basis. When you kill an enemy and get 1-2 XP for it, he gets whatever he would normally get at his level. Same for when he kills an enemy. OK, great, but he IS getting xp for stuff I kill, right? I would hate to think that I'm keeping him from leveling as fast as he could be. I doubt that's the case, though, just making sure. EDIT: vvv Ah, yes, my apologies. I haven't had my caffeine yet today. 
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Jun 29, 2015 13:00
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Yes, that's what I said. See: second sentence in that post.
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Jun 29, 2015 13:02
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Is it normal at level 31-32 in my first playthrough to have certain enemies just basically 2/3 shot me? I've had ~level 30 hyperion snipers basically hit me once and it goes through 3k of shields and about 800 health all at once. Or SGT loaders that somehow just, if a hit (maybe a burst shot) connects, pretty much takes down all my shields. I don't think I have too much damage issues other than when in second wind and the timer just flies away, but is damage output supposed to just spike like that out of nowhere? The last 5 levels seemed a bit more fair for incoming/outgoing damage from enemies at about my level as well but now I'm having survivability issues even when gunzerking.
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Aug 10, 2015 18:15
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The scaling gets ridiculous around that point combined with more enemies getting to use snipers and rocket launchers (bad design IMO). There's a point where you end up living or dying by the health gate. TVHM is even worse at that point in the game.
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Aug 10, 2015 18:19
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BL2 is a test of how masochistic your gaming tendencies are. If you're anything like most people, you'll break down and use the cheatengine stuff in the OP to crank up the legendary drop level so you have at least a chance of survival. Otherwise you will spend most of the game flopping in an out of FFYL mode desperately trying to get a kill before you bleed out.
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Aug 11, 2015 02:14
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BobTheJanitor posted:BL2 is a test of how masochistic your gaming tendencies are. If you're anything like most people, you'll break down and use the cheatengine stuff in the OP to crank up the legendary drop level so you have at least a chance of survival. Otherwise you will spend most of the game flopping in an out of FFYL mode desperately trying to get a kill before you bleed out. Or you cave in and buy Krieg.
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Aug 11, 2015 10:48
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Kikas posted:Or you cave in and buy Harolds
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Aug 11, 2015 12:44
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Por que no los dos?  (seriously though just play krieg)
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Gestalt Intellect posted:The scaling gets ridiculous around that point combined with more enemies getting to use snipers and rocket launchers (bad design IMO). There's a point where you end up living or dying by the health gate. TVHM is even worse at that point in the game. And then there's UVHM, where assault rifles and sniper rifles can all safely be considered vendor trash, the scaling gets noticeably worse with each level, you have to re-grind for purp+ rarity gear every level, enemy health regen outpaces even the mightiest of elemental damage over time, and so much more... for no real reason beyond watch a number go up, really. Unless you're playing Krieg, which probably means you're trying to see how trivial you can make gear in a franchise built around the hoarding of gear.
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Aug 12, 2015 01:03
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I forced myself through all of UVHM once and won't ever do it again. Except I probably won't go through any other part of it again either, because it absolutely killed my enjoyment of the game. There's a lot of things I love about this game but the incredibly dumb things gearbox does makes it feel like that was just an accident and they really just got lucky.
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Aug 12, 2015 01:08
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How's the Pre-Sequel by the way? It's been out for a while now, didn't hear much about it. Did they fix Eridium not picking itself up? Are the characters fun? Are the drop rates finally fixed?
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Aug 12, 2015 01:11
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Kikas posted:How's the Pre-Sequel by the way? It's been out for a while now, didn't hear much about it. Did they fix Eridium not picking itself up? Are the characters fun? Are the drop rates finally fixed? Personally I found it an improvement in virtually every respect *except* level design. The characters are all fun to play, the grinder makes the drop rates feel less terrible. Eridium isn't a thing anymore, instead it's moonstones or something. The problem is that the massive degree of backtracking you have to do was already getting under my skin before I'd finished even my first playthrough, a few areas are particularly terrible about it.
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Aug 12, 2015 01:16
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The Pre-Sequel is aggressively mediocre. The characters are well-designed in terms of their abilities, but the plot, characterization, level design, and enemy design are very lackluster. It has occasional moments of brilliance, but feels more like a really well-made mod than a full game. If you enjoyed BL2, odds are you'll at least moderately enjoy the Pre-Sequel. But it's absolutely nothing special.
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Aug 12, 2015 01:16
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I really wish I could play TPS characters and cryo in 2 because I really don't like TPS levels too much.
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Aug 12, 2015 01:30
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Father Wendigo posted:And then there's UVHM, where assault rifles and sniper rifles can all safely be considered vendor trash, the scaling gets noticeably worse with each level, you have to re-grind for purp+ rarity gear every level, enemy health regen outpaces even the mightiest of elemental damage over time, and so much more... for no real reason beyond watch a number go up, really. Unless you're playing Krieg, which probably means you're trying to see how trivial you can make gear in a franchise built around the hoarding of gear. Father W! Are you by any chance playing this on Steam? 
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Aug 12, 2015 01:51
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I'm one of those masochists who felt compelled to get all the achievements legit and without using any cheats, and didn't use Gibbed until after I did that in BL2. What made it more reasonable for me was playing the characters at staggered levels, so as one leveled up their best gear got handed down to the next character in terms of level, so that by the time I was on my fifth playthrough I had harvested so much gear that managing the inventory of each character was more of an issue than grinding. My trailblazer was Maya, and she just wrecked her way through for me. I think Alton was the one I actually had the most problems with at higher levels - he ended up being fragile than Zer0 for me. That said, this burned out my patience pretty thoroughly, so I started running Gibbed almost immediately in TPS.
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Aug 12, 2015 02:24
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Kikas posted:How's the Pre-Sequel by the way? It's been out for a while now, didn't hear much about it. Did they fix Eridium not picking itself up? Are the characters fun? Are the drop rates finally fixed? Rupert Buttermilk posted:Father W! Are you by any chance playing this on Steam? Still up for some Perfect Dark, tho! 
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Aug 12, 2015 03:40
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Kikas posted:How's the Pre-Sequel by the way? I thought it was decent. If you're only going to play through it once I suggest doing it as Claptrap; all the player characters are voiced in this game and I think he, unsurprisingly, gets the best lines.
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Father Wendigo posted:and what is overwhelmingly the worst DLC the franchise has had to date. Holy crap worse than the underdome?
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