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Superstring posted:Genuinely curious, what did Athens do? Women could not: -reveal too much skin outside the household, unless they were a prostitute -make business transactions beyond a certain (low) value without their (father's/husband's) approval besides the more important underlying cultural things that maintain today, such as being told through all forms of media and entertainment that they're inferior/held to stricter standards, being bought and sold as objects, etc. It's important to note that Athena is not considered as a woman in anything but form since she came out of Zeus's head rather than any mother's womb--Zeus made her to prove a point that pregnancy (women's only real role in Athenian society) was a flawed and unnecessary business. "Wisdom" is also a little general regarding her domain; a lot of times in the myths and plays it's closer to logical reasoning and law-knowledge--then and now, seen as male-centered things, as were craft-skills such as carpentry and metalworking, also within her sphere.
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Athena's able to transcend gender roles to a degree because she has inordinate power as the divine creation and favoured child of Zeus, but yeah, every story featuring Athena tends also to feature a host of mortal women being raped, ignored and taken as prizes, sometimes by the heroes of the story. Even among gods, Athena is an exception: Aphrodite gets the short end of the stick in more than one myth.
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So basically, Athena was the super-special virgin waifu of Athens, while Hera was the feminist harridan always harshin' on Zeus's buzz. The more things change, the more they stay the same 
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Mister Olympus posted:Women could not: Unless you dared to be a better weaver than her. If that is the case then monster for you.
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theflyingorc posted:It's still pretty weird that someone, anyone came up with Egg Fu as a character. I can almost guarantee that the script was knocked out at a Chinese restaurant two days before the deadline.
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Random Stranger posted:I can almost guarantee that the script was knocked out at a Chinese restaurant two days before the deadline. This General Gau sucks. I will show them. 
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TwoPair posted:Mega Man 41: Top Man is thoroughly disappointed in Mega Man's approach to My only disappointment is that Megaman didn't take damage to save time.
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:My only disappointment is that Megaman didn't take damage to save time. Fifth panel should show Megaman clipping into the wall and suddenly appearing in front of Top Man.
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Cangelosi posted:How can an egg have children? By having sex with a chicken. Now which one came first? That I can't answer.
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Gavok posted:By having sex with a chicken. This is the best worst post.
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Tarezax posted:So basically, Athena was the super-special virgin waifu of Athens, while Hera was the feminist harridan always harshin' on Zeus's buzz. Calling Hera a feminist is a bit generous, seeing as she went out of her way on several occasions to punish, torture, or outright kill women who were physically unable to resist her husband's philandering (evidently it was a ~rule~ that if a god or goddess wanted to gently caress you you couldn't say no), and do her best to try and kill the demigod offspring. And Athena wasn't a waifu so much as Athenian men had another kind of 'weakness' and there wasn't a barely-pubescent boy god to worship. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Nov 1, 2014 |
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You mean other than Eros, the god of sexual desire, who was depicted both as a man who inflamed lusts by the prick of his arrow, and as a blindfolded boy of innocence.
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Which was the one who turned a women into Medusa as a punishment for being raped by Poseidon in her temple?
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Metal Loaf posted:Which was the one who turned a women into Medusa as a punishment for being raped by Poseidon in her temple? Athena. Which makes sense when you think about who she was the main god for.
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Metal Loaf posted:Which was the one who turned a women into Medusa as a punishment for being raped by Poseidon in her temple? The problem is the most known stories are from one of the most sexist city.
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Numero6 posted:There's two stories: for punhisment and for protection. Greek gods are p. variable from city to city. There's another where Aphrodite did it. Medusa bragged that she was prettier than the Goddess of Sex herself, so Aphrodite turned her into a horrid monster no-one could ever look directly at again. Or as another example of variation: on the isle of Rhodes, Athena was not a virgin goddess, but the wife of their patron Helios (God of the Sun) and mother of their mythic kings and heros. She was also said by them to have been a minor goddess until her husband ordered humans to worship her. Byzantine fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Nov 1, 2014 |
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Calling Hera a feminist is a bit generous, seeing as she went out of her way on several occasions to punish, torture, or outright kill women who were physically unable to resist her husband's philandering (evidently it was a ~rule~ that if a god or goddess wanted to gently caress you you couldn't say no), and do her best to try and kill the demigod offspring. As long as this divergence is ongoing, I figured I'd point the way to my favorite analysis of Athena versus Ares, from Cryptonomicon: http://markpasc.org/blog/gems/athena.html
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Random Stranger posted:I can almost guarantee that the script was knocked out at a Chinese restaurant two days before the deadline. Unused, but also created in tht session were General Tso, leader of the ghost army and the absurdist, almost protoMorrison character Parties of Six or More Will Have a Fifteen Percent Gratuity Added to Their Bill.
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Mister Olympus posted:It's important to note that Athena is not considered as a woman in anything but form since she came out of Zeus's head rather than any mother's womb--Zeus made her to prove a point that pregnancy (women's only real role in Athenian society) was a flawed and unnecessary business. "Wisdom" is also a little general regarding her domain; a lot of times in the myths and plays it's closer to logical reasoning and law-knowledge--then and now, seen as male-centered things, as were craft-skills such as carpentry and metalworking, also within her sphere. I thought Zeus had sex with Athena's mother, then ate her so she wouldn't give birth, and then Athena came out of his head after a huge headache. Then again, I'm sure there are multiple versions of every story. 
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Cangelosi posted:How can an egg have children? Hopefully not like MODOKS can.   Nextwave #12
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Red Lanterns #10.
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Say Nothing posted:Red Lanterns #10. That's strange. The Midnighter isn't usually known for pounding p-- You know what? I'm better than this joke. Never mind.
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Like at least 7 years ago you're late to the party.
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It makes perfect sense, too. What's the angriest thing on Earth?
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bunnyofdoom posted:My rear end when I eat spicy food? Bunnyofdoom of Earth, you have great rage in your butt. Welcome to the Brown Lantern Corps.
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Strontosaurus posted:Bunnyofdoom of Earth, you have great rage in your butt. Welcome to the Brown Lantern Corps. There is precedent 
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Tarezax posted:So basically, Athena was the super-special virgin waifu of Athens, while Hera was the feminist harridan always harshin' on Zeus's buzz. actually it's about ethics in Olympian journalism
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Say Nothing posted:Red Lanterns #10. To interrupt the poop chat can I ask the nerdy question of how a regular dude is able to punch out a Lantern? Now that I think about it I guess that's also what happened with the famous Batman punch to Guy, but I thought the rings inherently protected the wearers against nuisance damage like human punches.
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Lobok posted:To interrupt the poop chat can I ask the nerdy question of how a regular dude is able to punch out a Lantern? Now that I think about it I guess that's also what happened with the famous Batman punch to Guy, but I thought the rings inherently protected the wearers against nuisance damage like human punches. Guy Gardner specifically removed his ring beforehand in that case because he wanted to take Batman on mano-a-mano.
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Say Nothing posted:Red Lanterns #10.
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mind the walrus posted:Like at least 7 years ago you're late to the party. He was the first Red Lantern in uniform besides Atrocitus on the cover.
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You might also notice he wears his ring on his tail. So cute. Did he have any adventures with Red Lantern Guy Gardner? Dex-starr's backstory is actually very sad.
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Wait was Dex-starr an Earth cat or not? I remember reading that he was an Earth cat but then why the gently caress is he blue?
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mind the walrus posted:Wait was Dex-starr an Earth cat or not? I remember reading that he was an Earth cat but then why the gently caress is he blue? Why the gently caress is he a hellmonster who pukes up his own horrible acidic blood? The ring, my friend.
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