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Are you getting the Wii U?
This poll is closed.
Yes 9031 65.25%
No 1191 8.60%
Maybe 808 5.84%
I'm an idiot 460 3.32%
Waluigi 1603 11.58%
Waa 748 5.40%
Total: 13841 votes
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Hobo Siege
Apr 24, 2008

by Cowcaster
Console comes out, gets some of the scant few multiplatform titles still slated for this generation, new consoles with modern architecture come out, third parties and core audiences jump ship, software dries up, Nintendo release a few great titles mixed in with numerous low-content experiments and gimmicks, Mom games as far as the eye can see, life support.

I guess it'll be cool if you have money to burn and the current drought of console titles is really chafing you, but I just don't see the appeal otherwise.

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Hobo Siege
Apr 24, 2008

by Cowcaster

Chronojam posted:

So what are you basing this off? I'd love to hear your sources.

History.

Hobo Siege
Apr 24, 2008

by Cowcaster

Bombadilillo posted:

The Wii launched a year after the 360 so if you think you have some clever, "history repeating itself" thing you don't know what your talking about.

The issue is that the Wii U is a 360 or thereabouts, just as the Wii before it was a slightly upticked Gamecube. This system will face similar challenges to the Wii, and it won't have an explosive new control scheme to get everyone talking. The only difference is that the U's going to have a year to compete with the current gen.

Ya'll sure are uptight.

Hobo Siege
Apr 24, 2008

by Cowcaster

Bobnumerotres posted:

Forgive us for pointing out how much you're trying to instigate something?

If not being particularly enthused about the U's prospects for core titles counts as instigation, yes, I suppose I am instigating.

Hobo Siege
Apr 24, 2008

by Cowcaster

The Operative posted:

I don't understand blanket statements like these. The Wii U has twice as much usable RAM as the Xbox 360 and a GPU that is at least three generations ahead of its predecessors. You could make the argument that the CPU is going to be a bottleneck for the device in the future, but to say that the Wii U is only as powerful as the Xbox 360 is an understatement at best, and disingenuous at worst.

Consider that this thing is going to be rendering three screens at max load, one of them in HD. That's going to be a fairly severe drag, and the unimpressive CPU isn't going to help. I don't think we're looking at an N64 > Dreamcast type leap here.

Hobo Siege
Apr 24, 2008

by Cowcaster

Gutcruncher posted:

The Wii U doesnt charge its own controller? It's not a deal breaker or anything, but come on Nintendo!

It amazes me how Nintendo can drop the ball on basic poo poo like this when they're the oldest surviving hand in the industry. The more I hear about this thing, the more I feel like it was rushed to market.

Hobo Siege
Apr 24, 2008

by Cowcaster

Supercar Gautier posted:

Plugging a charging dock into a wall outlet is at least twenty times more arduous than plugging it into a USB port, I cannot believe that Nintendo overlooked this crippling design flaw.

Entering a 16-digit friend code is at least twenty times more arduous than entering someone's username, I cannot believe that Nintendo overlooked this crippling design flaw.

Hobo Siege
Apr 24, 2008

by Cowcaster

Chronojam posted:

Please tell us how designing a new plug and power brick is a rush job compared to re-use :allears: I'd love to hear this explanation, so don't be shy.

You must really like Nintendo or something, it seems like you're always first unto the breach. They paying you alright?

Hobo Siege
Apr 24, 2008

by Cowcaster

bluegoon posted:

According to Neogaf, the RAM is a complete cockup, operating at something like 43% the speed of the current gen HD machines.

And the Nintendo Defense Force balked at me when I said this thing was going to have problems keeping up with the next gen systems.

Hobo Siege
Apr 24, 2008

by Cowcaster

Quest For Glory II posted:

Epic has played hardball with Unreal Engine 4, but it's going to scale to mobile phones and tablets, which means it can scale to Wii U.

Games on next gen systems absolutely can and will be ported to Wii U, and yes, they'll look degraded. But if there's still a financial incentive to doing it then they'll do it. Developers will get their game on as many platforms as possible.

If things pan out the way they did with the Wii, that just isn't going to happen. There needs to be a significant audience ready and waiting to buy core titles before anyone goes through all the effort of making a severe downport. I worry that Nintendo may have shot themselves in the foot both in the short AND long terms this time.

Hobo Siege
Apr 24, 2008

by Cowcaster

PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

There won't be any "severe downports" this time around, though.

Doubting that. Graphical fidelity may not see a traditionally massive jump this time, but the uptick in processing power is going to make all the difference. Try to imagine GTA 4 running on a PS2. You could fog things to hell and back, nerf the geometry and gut anything else you could care to think of, but physics and AI refinements ended up being be the stars of that game. Seriously, load up San Andreas and watch the NPCs, they're like wooden puppets by comparison.

Ask any developer and they'll tell you that current gen systems have been hindering overall game design just as much if not moreso than graphical fidelity. Next gen graphics might scale down to the U, but next gen game design almost certainly won't.

Hobo Siege
Apr 24, 2008

by Cowcaster

fivegears4reverse posted:

All Nintendo has to do is release a fresh Zelda/Mario/Kirby/Metroid/Smash, and that's practically money in the bank guaranteed. Millions will buy the Wii U because these games will EVENTUALLY make an appearance. Millions more will buy the system the moment these games release.

No other company in the market today, not ONE, has that sort of power over gamers. It's quite impressive.

I'm going to be gutted for saying this, but those properties don't matter as much anymore. Yes, they'll still sell systems, but third party developers have come a long, long loving way since the days of the SNES and N64. Nintendo are no longer the sole masters of their craft; that's why third party support is so important.

Hobo Siege
Apr 24, 2008

by Cowcaster
Was at Wal-Mart the other day browsing the game section, noticed a couple of mothers holding some sort of tablet thing called a Wii UDraw. They were debating with one another over whether or not it was what they were looking for, never mentioning the Wii U by name.

So far as I call tell it's some sort of gimmick controller that works with a couple of licensed Wii games. Gonna be some sad, sad kids this Christmas.

Hobo Siege
Apr 24, 2008

by Cowcaster

Spiffster posted:

What do you mean I can't transfer metal sonic and my mini dart board captoys I bought digital chips and played minigames for!? :qqsay:

Also I am torn on sonic games. I still love the old games and some of the new ones are fun, but drat did the fanbase suck all the fun out of the blue blur. CURSE YOU INTERNET!!

There's terrible porn and fan fiction of literally every thing you have ever loved. Just chill out and have fun jumping on robots.

Hobo Siege
Apr 24, 2008

by Cowcaster
Okay, to be completely fair, that kid in the bee hole was me at 7 years old after a few years of growing up on the classic series. The game was a rental with no manual and it never occurred to me that Megaman could now scale walls. I ended up just running behind them and shooting their asses to avoid falling in and didn't figure out wall climbing until I ran into a less avoidable impasse.

As for the password screen... Yeah, that's right, you kids today have it easy. Uphill both ways, and we had to farm our own E-Tanks.

Hobo Siege
Apr 24, 2008

by Cowcaster

greatn posted:

Are any of these streams going to be decent on mobile? I'm in labor and delivery but I don't think the baby is coming anytime soon.

:stare:

Hobo Siege
Apr 24, 2008

by Cowcaster
I consider Megaman X the standard by which all action games are to be measured, so uh. Enjoy that! Unless you don't, in which case you're some kind of mutant from planet Zeta 3.

Hobo Siege
Apr 24, 2008

by Cowcaster
Man, at this rate the U might even get a third party title.

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Hobo Siege
Apr 24, 2008

by Cowcaster

PantsBandit posted:

A game where you don't spend 90% of the time walking around and 10% shooting at bugs?

I'm just poking the beehive at this point though.

Sounds like you'd enjoy the various space pirate bases due to their being unrelenting assholes, but they're pretty deep into the game.

Also I think you might actually be someone like Hitler or Death.

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