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precision posted:Aside from the ending, I have no idea why people disliked ME3 (assuming they liked ME2, that is). It had better pacing, better missions, a proper sense of urgency, much more variety of space wizard powers, and the multiplayer is actually really well-done. Just a really, really mediocre game, that shows it's best hand early on. Just a very bland game that got crushed in the super-competitive market of MMO's.
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Everything Bioware has done sans MDK2 has been OK to terrible. DA3 will probably lean towards terrible.
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| # ? Sep 18, 2012 02:52 |
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exquisite tea posted:In all seriousness though, the multiplayer in ME3 unequivocally owned and if this game has a Horde mode except with wizards or something I will probably get it. This will probably happen. Wasn't the CEO of EA just bragging about how all the games he has greenlit were not singleplayer and had to have an online component?
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I legitimately predict a transgendered party member in Dragon Age 3.
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| # ? Sep 18, 2012 03:03 |
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precision posted:Because Sonic Chronicles was a good game, drat it! Listen to what Bioware did to the Green Hill Zone music, LISTEN. It's like an intern was holding all the notes of the original song then tripped and fell, scattering them all over the floor. When he picked it back up, we got the music of Sonic Chronicles which managed to be even worse than the gameplay. Other people can talk about DA2, ToR and ME3 but I'm never forgiving you for that Bioware.
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exquisite tea posted:In all seriousness though, the multiplayer in ME3 unequivocally owned and if this game has a Horde mode except with wizards or something I will probably get it. I too would play this. biggfoo posted:This will probably happen. Wasn't the CEO of EA just bragging about how all the games he has greenlit were not singleplayer and had to have an online component? He did, but the quote wasn't "all games must have a MP mode, period, full stop" but all games are going to have some online component which is likely but not always straight MP. Obviously MP modes are something they're fond of, and I bet ME3 is a strong point in favor of sticking them in more games. but seriously wizard horde? In Frostbite? That... could be cool as all hell. Weird 
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exquisite tea posted:In all seriousness though, the multiplayer in ME3 unequivocally owned and if this game has a Horde mode except with wizards or something I will probably get it. That doesn't sound anything like Baldur's Gate
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Tagichatn posted:Listen to what Bioware did to the Green Hill Zone music, LISTEN. It's like an intern was holding all the notes of the original song then tripped and fell, scattering them all over the floor. When he picked it back up, we got the music of Sonic Chronicles which managed to be even worse than the gameplay. Other people can talk about DA2, ToR and ME3 but I'm never forgiving you for that Bioware. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o47N-aYd08 Guys I just found my Casio keyboard and I made a song I think is real cool! The music wasn't entirely their fault. Apparently they had a deal go sour very close to release and had to remake a lot of the music very quickly.
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| # ? Sep 18, 2012 03:19 |
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I utterly loathed DA2, so I'll be giving this a wide berth unless it actually turns out to be worthwhile after all. What are the odds of that happening? I'm not holding my breath, but who knows. DA2 nearly made me skip ME3 as well, but I bought and beat it recently and was pleasantly surprised all in all. (Probably wouldn't have been prior to the extended ending DLC, though.)
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| # ? Sep 18, 2012 03:22 |
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Well from what I have heard, Asunder will be the basis of why you are an Inquisitor. http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Age:_Asunder So your character's goal will pretty much be rooting out Templar heresy while dealing with the mages while ultimately saving the Empress.
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gyrobot posted:Well from what I have heard, Asunder will be the basis of why you are an Inquisitor. DA wiki posted:Dragon Age: Asunder is a novel written by David Gaider Well nevermind then.
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| # ? Sep 18, 2012 03:35 |
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It's crazy that a company as lovely as Bioware shipped a game as good as Dragon Age just three years ago.
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| # ? Sep 18, 2012 03:36 |
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I think I started to understand that choices didn't really matter when in Mass Effect 2 there was a "correct" way to play. Like you could make your choices but you could be objectively wrong. That's not player choices, that's just stupid.
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| # ? Sep 18, 2012 03:51 |
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I wish I could talk big about how awful Bioware is and how I'll never buy this game... But deep down in my heart of hearts I know it will be a day one purchase for me - just like DA2 and ME3 were. Bioware, I just can't quit you 
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| # ? Sep 18, 2012 03:54 |
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I would totally, well, not preorder, but buy at the $30 price point if a member of the von Fontlebottom clan showed up. Especially if said character was voiced by John Cleese.
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| # ? Sep 18, 2012 03:56 |
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This thread is gonna totally flip it's poo poo when it's announced the main reason they are using Frostbyte 2 is to make the game a straight up First Person RPG because "the Elder Scrolls Sure Did Sell Alot, I Guess We'Re Gonna Do That Now, Thank You."
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| # ? Sep 18, 2012 03:58 |
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I loved DA:O, every Mass Effect game (3's ending was lovely but  ) and as for DA:2, the story was actually pretty interesting (a mage/templar war has the potential to be amazing), the writing was okay, but it was the combat/repetitive level design that got to me and made me hate it.That said I'm not buying this game at launch because who the gently caress pays $60 dollars for a video game?
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| # ? Sep 18, 2012 04:02 |
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precision posted:edit: There will be a new SNAKES N CAKES for DA3. There has to be. It is known. Maybe DRAKES N CAKES will come over from Trad Games.
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| # ? Sep 18, 2012 04:03 |
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ZackHoagie posted:This thread is gonna totally flip it's poo poo when it's announced the main reason they are using Frostbyte 2 is to make the game a straight up First Person RPG because "the Elder Scrolls Sure Did Sell Alot, I Guess We'Re Gonna Do That Now, Thank You." I'd sooner play an FPS wizard game than the poo poo they churned out in DA2. I also don't understand the idea that Bioware was ever this "saviour of RPGs" that I see posted. The best Infinity Engine games were made by Obsidian/Black Isle, as were the better of the two KOTOR games and the only great game in the Neverwinter Nights series. Bioware has never made the best, or even great (Aside from BG2 which had its own fair share of issues) RPGs. They've always produced games that ranged from bad to pretty good and they've had a several-games long recent track record of pushing out half-baked poo poo pies.
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| # ? Sep 18, 2012 04:10 |
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It'll be poo poo like the previous two games in this deplorable franchise. gently caress you, Bioware.
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| # ? Sep 18, 2012 04:11 |
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Mister Tuxedo posted:Does anyone else want to start a pool on Launchday dlc options and bioware plot twists? For only 6000 Microsoft points, you can discover the secret, far-flung origin of the mysterious mage and new party member Comm Andershepard.
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| # ? Sep 18, 2012 04:11 |
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Bemis posted:Different romanceable companions based on where you preorder (amazon, gamestop, etc). Horribly enough, this sounds plausible. Jesus, we really should stop giving these people our money.
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| # ? Sep 18, 2012 04:21 |
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So I really enjoyed Origins. Awakening was ok but I didn't think it was that great. I never played DA2 I've been tempted to get it and probably would have it were available on Steam. What was so bad about it?
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| # ? Sep 18, 2012 04:32 |
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Oh joy, I can't wait to see how many "pre-order", "limited", "designer", "premium", "first class", "second class", "third world" versions they come out with... all with lovely DLCs that have no impact on gameplay. Oh and the awesome button! Let's not forget that. Really enjoyed Origins, played the lovely DA2 demo and cancelled my order... Not sure how I feel about this. I'll probably buy it, keep it unopened for a few days an return it based on the reviews.
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Fireless Phoenix posted:Really enjoyed Origins, played the lovely DA2 demo and cancelled my order... For what it's worth, the DA2 demo was actually much worse than the game itself. The game is certainly of questionable quality, but hot poo poo that demo was garbage. The ME3 singleplayer demo was also really bad. I don't think BioWare "gets" how to make a good demo.
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Wheeee posted:I also don't understand the idea that Bioware was ever this "saviour of RPGs" that I see posted. The best Infinity Engine games were made by Obsidian/Black Isle, as were the better of the two KOTOR games and the only great game in the Neverwinter Nights series. Bioware has never made the best, or even great (Aside from BG2 which had its own fair share of issues) RPGs. They've always produced games that ranged from bad to pretty good and they've had a several-games long recent track record of pushing out half-baked poo poo pies. Creating the Infinity Engine, Baldur's Gate, Baldur's Gate 2, the Aurora Engine, Hordes of the Underdark, and Knights of the Old Republic. You say KotOR 2 was the better of the two games, but that's letting SA's Obsidian bias through. By every gameplay measure, KotOR 1 was the superior game and the only place where 2 had the advantage (however significant) was the story. It seems hard to believe after the past two years, but there was a time when Bioware made legitimately great games.
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1stGear posted:By every gameplay measure, KotOR 1 was the superior game and the only place where 2 had the advantage (however significant) was the story. The gameplay systems in Kotor 2 were better though? But, yeah, it's hard to see it now but back then Baldur's Gate 1 and especially 2 were a huge revolution that kicked RPGs back into the spotlight
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| # ? Sep 18, 2012 05:01 |
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I don't know how Bioware can one-up poo poo mountain for game introductory experiences. The remarkable thing was after Dragon Age Origins and Mass Effect 2 Bioware seemed to be a company that could be depended on to produce high quality games. Then we got Dragon Age 2, TOR, and Mass Effect 3's ending.
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Kotor 2's writing/story make it the better game, though. The game falls apart at the end as its incompleteness starts to show, but start to finish I had a much better time playing Kotor 2 than the first game. I played those games before I'd ever even heard of SA so let's not pretend any bias I have comes from here. I've never held Bioware in high esteem, but I actually enjoyed Dragon Age: Origins and Mass Effect 1 and 2. I never could get into the infinity engine games no matter which company made them, though. Still, Dragon Age 2, ME3, and SW:TOR are all really awful in their own special ways, though. Seeing what they did with Dragon Age, and watching what EA is doing with Bioware as a whole makes me feel very justified in feeling apprehensive about a new Dragon Age game. I feel like Bioware needs to be a company that comes up design documents for games, then outsources the writing and execution to more skilled hands. If I thought they were capable of producing another decent or good game on their own at this point I would be throwing all of my money at them rather than slowly nursing my growing hate-boner for what is becoming an overall pretty bad game developer. If they pull a hat-trick and make DA3 good, I'll be glad though.
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Ivan Dolvich posted:I never played DA2 I've been tempted to get it and probably would have it were available on Steam. What was so bad about it? The combat is more flashy and less tactical (the "button-awesome connection") and many fights involve waves of enemies who spawn as soon as you beat the last wave. Even though the game is set mostly within a single city, environments and dungeons are recycled endlessly and there seem to be only about two different wall textures in the game. The dialogue choices are reduced to Mass Effect-style options that are usually smug and unfunny. None of the big choices you make in the game turn out to matter much and you are railroaded toward a single ending. The new characters are charmless (and the protagonist is the most unlikable douche of them all) and even returning characters like Anders and Flemeth behave like fanfic versions of themselves. Also, a lot of the writing is unbelievably bad for a game made by professionals in 2011, and the script includes a quotation from the 1992 single "Baby Got Back" and countless "cute" moments with Merrill the childish elf that are the epitome of 
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If you can get through this video (~12mins long), I think this guy sums up DA2 pretty well, and shows that it could have a really good story, but then they went and made some terribly terrible decisions to gently caress it all up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onr_z45NVyI Also, ME3 owned, that is all. I just look at it like Lost, pretend the ending doesn't exist. The ride there was great.
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ZackHoagie posted:This thread is gonna totally flip it's poo poo when it's announced the main reason they are using Frostbyte 2 is to make the game a straight up First Person RPG because "the Elder Scrolls Sure Did Sell Alot, I Guess We'Re Gonna Do That Now, Thank You." quote:“[The next Dragon Age] is gonna have the best of features from the prior Dragon Age games, but it’s also gonna have a lot of things I think players are gonna find compelling from some of the games that are out now that are doing really well with more of an open world feel,” Muzyka said.
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| # ? Sep 18, 2012 06:00 |
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This is going to be a launch title for the next Xbox console.
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| # ? Sep 18, 2012 06:16 |
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DA2 may not have been a good game, but I will stand by its entertainment solely for laughing at men popping out of the aether above my head to join a fight only to be puree'd into a blood tornado by my warrior's whirlwind until the air was so thick with blood all my party members were invisible. gently caress yes. Also the Stonehammer set looked cool as hell.  The game also had some really fun and goofy poo poo going on if you weren't too serious about it. It's problem is only bits of it are good and its narrative framework is completely wasted. And if you tried to take it seriously (like it wanted you to) then it was a joke. Seriously though, whether it was intentional or not, that game made me laugh quite a bit. Oh gently caress now I'm remember the console codes that let you do things like give Fenris Flemeth's body. That was good times. Lotish fucked around with this message at Sep 18, 2012 around 06:29 |
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Siljmonster posted:This is going to be a launch title for the next Xbox console. I sure hope so. Not that I'd buy it, but the 360's limitations were some of the biggest stumbling blocks for the series so far. That and the awful writing. Then again, my main problems with either DA2 or ME3 (besides the multiplayer of the latter, that was awesome) is that I was just intensely bored playing them, and never felt like I should really care about what I was doing for the most part.
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| # ? Sep 18, 2012 06:26 |
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The best part about DA2 was missing the pirate girl entirely, never meeting her, and then the ending going "AND THEN YOU AND PIRATE GIRL, WHO WERE BFFS, RAN OFF FOREVER BECAUSE OF REASONS"
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| # ? Sep 18, 2012 06:31 |
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Weren't there some people who ended up with mopey possessed guy (I have forgotten all the names in this game) even after they'd told him to bugger off or even killed him?
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| # ? Sep 18, 2012 06:33 |
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Considering what EA did to OverStrike (now Fuse), I can't imagine this being decent. Just thinking of the exceptionally terrible writing duo of Gaider and Helper makes my gut churn.
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| # ? Sep 18, 2012 06:41 |
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Lotish posted:Weren't there some people who ended up with mopey possessed guy (I have forgotten all the names in this game) even after they'd told him to bugger off or even killed him? I executed that punk rear end bitch and it said my guy suddenly changed orientation and married him later or something in the ending. Anders, to this day remains the most annoying charecter I have played with in a RPG. Well, except the cast of Star Ocean 4, but I only played that for like ten minutes.
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I think the game will boil down to one really long cutscene, and every so often a prompt will pop up telling you to mash X (FIGHT HARDER) or O (FIGHT STRATEGICALLY). And the cut scene will change slightly based on how hard you mashed which button. See, your decisions WILL have consequences!
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